Ok whining Dems, if not Joe Biden then who?

I keep thinking how I hope I am still alive when my grandchildren are in school so I can see what their history books say about this time of our lives.

I often think this. Want to make it to the (hopefully) happy ending.

Democrats have let themselves get sucked into "he's old" as if Trump isn't old and declining mentally too.  You're not electing a person, you're electing an administration.  I'll do whatever at this point, and it's not like I have been a Biden apologist, but man, we'd do better to run on the administration's mostly good record and public-interest-enhancing plans for the future and stop as a party obsessing so much about Biden's condition.  He can Weekend at Bernie's this for all I care if we continue to have Obamacare, labor unions, public schools, environmental protections, marriage equality, etc. 

something I find so interesting: My gay, staunchly Republican brother who lives in a very red state recently told me that he uses Obamacare for his healthcare. I was gobsmacked, I tell ya! He hated every single thing about Obama, once hated Trump and voted for Gary Johnson because NO freaking way was he going to vote for Hillary. But he is now firmly settled on the Trump train and believes all the Maga conspiracies, etc. He works for a small business that doesn't offer healthcare. I wonder how he will feel when the guy he will most certainly vote for will take his ability to have that cheap healthcare away. 
Just another thing I have a hard time wrapping my brain around about Trump supporters. 

I will happily vote for that ticket if it happens. But then I will also happily vote for Biden, sooo...
I'm pretty disheartened by what I hear from people around me who say they might not vote at all. How can we make people realize this is absolutely NOT the election to sit out or vote third party just to make a statement. Even a couple of my children, who voted for Hillary and then for Biden have said they might not vote this time. Sooooo frustrating!!! 

This is why Whitmer could be a good choice. I'm sure there are people who won't vote for two women, but they are probably voting for Trump anyway.

I love Wes Moore, and would love to see him run at the top of the ticket next election, if we have one.

I read The Other Wes Moore when it came out, and thought it was a really well-done book.  It's been great to watch his political career.

Hadn't thought of this.  It's a very good point.  Even if she picked someone and he/she got confirmed, then that person is tied up with the Senate just as she has been.  Better if she is the head of the ticket to have someone free to go out and campaign.

I suppose it comes down with "What is the purpose of voting?" If it's simply to pick a winner, then it's easier to see how people can get into the trap of "My vote doesn't matter. I live in a red state or a blue state, where my single vote doesn't change anything. But voting, IMO, is also about what is happening in people's own heads. The post WWII and holocaust quote "First they came."... Voting is one of the simplest ways people can "speak out." Declare before themselves, the Universe, and whatever higher power they may believe in that they engaged in the most basic form of resistance. They did not obey and comply in advance. If the things we fear come to pass in another Trump presidency, I could not live with myself that even though my vote may be meaningless, I at *least* did that.

I’m a fan of governors.
Some of our big states are like large countries and governors have good relevant experience.
Big plus if they are a purple state and have experience operating across party lines.

It will be a sad day... If true...

Democrats in the House of Representatives are claiming that the battle to get rid of President Joe Biden from the ticket will be "resolved" in three to five days, CBS News reported.

Reporter Major Garrett said that two anonymous senior House Democrats expect action soon. Biden has been working at home in Delaware because he has COVID-19, and his public statements have suggested that he will be staying in the presidential race.

www.rawstory.com/joe-biden-2668773945/

It sure sounds like Biden himself is softening on his declaration that he will not step aside. I've not wanted him to, I just always thought he should have been able to - and the Democrats just couldn't get their act together to find a replacement that was acceptable to enough people. I didn't think he wanted to run for a second term anyway, he just got talked into it?

If he does choose to step out of the election, I agree that it has to be Harris at the top of the ticket, and that we need a (straight) white man to be VP to keep enough voters happy for now. I agree, starting over, I think I liked Whitmer best, but I'm OK with Harris. (And no, not just because I'd vote for my cat before I vote Trump.)

I cannot remember where the articles I read quickly today were from, because I’ve had a crazy busy night and day.

Anyway, one of them made a good case for Mark Kelly of Arizona as Kamala Harris's VP if she ends up the nominee. And bonus is that Arizona has a Democrat governor who would appoint his replacement.

The other article I quickly looked at talked about some poll that was done, with the presidential choices as Trump and an unnamed Democrat who is younger but qualified. And the poll results showed that in every crucial state the unnamed Democrat beat Trump. Trump wants to run against Biden because he knows he can beat him; some Republican being interviewed last night asserted that they WANT Biden on the ticket as Trump's opponent.

My concerns have been that, although I and many other people will vote for any Dem on the ballot over Trump, a LOT of undecideds and swing voters will not. In that case, Trump wins and the House and Senate both end up in Republican control. And we are screwed then.

IF Joe Biden had come back from the debate debacle looking strong and capable, I would be behind keeping him on the ticket. BUT, there is no way he looks like someone who can run a strong and active campaign. And that affects all the other Democrats on the ballots. I’ve come around to thinking Biden needs to step aside. And we cannot bypass Harris or we lose too many voters. Many of the people who will never vote for a woman or another black candidate are already going to vote for Trump.