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Post by onelasttime on Jul 19, 2024 19:35:06 GMT
Here is a perfect example of the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot. Aaron Rupar… ”If Biden drops out, Lofgren says "I don't think we can do a coronation" and says she supports "a mini-primary" including possibly "a vetting hosted by former presidents, including Obama and Clinton." Response to the above ”lI am not taking a position on Biden but this view is reckless and I would oppose it. The only choice, *if* there is one to be made, is Kamala Harris. There is absolutely no good reason to pass her over. And this is inviting chaos.l x.com/anthonymkreis/status/1814377998725865492?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 19, 2024 20:49:54 GMT
I thought i read somewhere that AOC and Bernie Sanders worked out a deal. Biden would go all in on progressive left issues in exchange for their support.
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Post by sunshine on Jul 19, 2024 21:02:09 GMT
So…Obama and Clinton would cherry pick the nominee (just like I thought).
The people that voted for Biden should be pissed that their votes mean nothing.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 19, 2024 23:33:26 GMT
Not sure if this is listed already but I encourage everyone to take the time to watch this video.
The legalities of getting Biden of the ticket are a huge issue and the republicans are already preparing lawsuits. What happens when these legal challenges are in front of a MAGA judge?
Also, you can change the playback speed on this.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 20, 2024 4:12:37 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 20, 2024 22:39:56 GMT
I don’t know. I think democrats and swing voters don’t care if he (or anyone else) is gay, so I don’t count him out. |
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Post by mom on Jul 21, 2024 1:07:51 GMT
I think he would be a great VP then President. And I totally expect he will be one day. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 14:31:20 GMT
This is a crazy idea. The screenwriter for West Wing thinks the Democrats should nominate Mitt Romney. If Democrats unite behind Romney, he could probably beat Trump. If Biden steps down, I’m all for picking a popular moderate for VP. But Biden had a successful 4 years, why should the Democrats concede and nominate a Republican? I don’t understand why Democrats are expected to fall on their swords and sacrifice themselves for comparatively minor things and Republicans get a free pass for their terrible behavior. Democrats just need to get their heads out of their as&es and unite quickly and decisively. I will concede that if Biden passes the torch, nominating a Republican for VP would not be a terrible idea. I respect Romney and Asa Hutchinson, but they’re both too old. Haley might have been OK before she endorsed Trump. Sununu regrettably kissed the ring, too. The only other Republicans that I respect are Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. I disagree with their politics but might be able to tolerate them as a VP. That would be genuine unity. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/biden-west-wing-aaron-sorkin.html |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 14:37:50 GMT
Another interesting opinion, suggesting that Democrats need to give up the west Wing fantasy. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/opinion/democrats-west-wing.htmlIt does seem that there was no plan for what would happen if Mr. Biden bombed at the debate, but it doesn’t matter now. Democrats need to stop overthinking it and now need to ruthlessly commit to a plan. Which option they pursue — Mr. Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris or someone else — matters less than that they do it. This is not an election with a wrongheaded but well-meaning Republican. It’s an all-out war with an illiberal megalomaniac who will happily destroy American democracy if it buys him one more ounce of power and keeps him out of prison. In “The West Wing,” Jed Bartlet is censured for not disclosing a medical condition. He slips in the polls. But he wins re-election by a landslide anyway because voters vote with their better selves — and his fictional opponent accepts the results. It’s a pretty fantasy, but here in real life, people often vote out of fear and anger and align with a party as much as a specific candidate. Whether Mr. Biden stays or goes, this is an opportunity to articulate to voters that Democrats understand that the world we all live in is less “The West Wing” than “Veep” — and to demonstrate that they’re capable of adapting to it. |
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