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Post by onelasttime on Jul 18, 2024 2:13:57 GMT
Who would you suggest to replace Joe Biden as the Democratic Nominee for president.
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Yes I’m being sarcastic. But I’m more than a little miffed with my political party right now. The reason is because they let the Republicans control the narrative about the President’s age while it could be argued that on President Biden’s worst day he is 1 million times better than trump on his best day.
Now that the president has one bad day and now has COVID the Dems are running around shooting themselves in the foot and screaming the sky is falling.
As I said before, there is no guarantee any president will finish a term. The youngest man ever elected president didn’t even last 2 years in office. You know JFK.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 18, 2024 2:19:05 GMT
Certainly not Newsom. We will loose badly.
I love Pete B but he isn't ready.
Honestly the Dems need to get their shit together and start a good damn brilliant campaign so Biden gets re elected
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Post by Merge on Jul 18, 2024 2:23:26 GMT
It couldn't be anyone but Kamala. Her name is next to Joe's on the campaign war chest. Anyone else would be fundraising from ground zero.
I need for both parties to stop electing old, white men. There needs to be both age and term limits on President, VP, House, and Senate seats IMO. And required retirement age for SC and federal court justices.
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 18, 2024 2:24:28 GMT
I saw some poll that the best combo to win would be Harris and Hilary... I personally would like someone that is not another 70 year old but that's just me.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 18, 2024 2:30:30 GMT
I saw some poll that the best combo to win would be Harris and Hilary... I personally would like someone that is not another 70 year old but that's just me. Omg people's heads would explode.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 18, 2024 2:35:46 GMT
I fear it’s going to take a miracle. Republicans just say that project 25 is all made up and fear mongering by the Dems. I just don’t know how to even try because they are in their own little world and not realizing all the ways it will affect them. Veterans, those with preexisting conditions, union members, seniors that rely on SS and Medicare, those that rely on free lunches - oh people were so made that someone hungry kid might get a free lunch, any type of welfare. Of course abortions - so many don’t realize it’s not just those loose women that are just sleeping with anything - that was much nicer than women were saying on a local group - couldn’t stay quiet - that many are for life saving reasons and I went into some details. These women just thought anyone that got pregnant and want one had to be a horrible person, no compassion that a woman or girl could get raped etc. Not that it’s any ones business why but that that there are a lot of reasons and often to save a life.
No more NATO which has kept peace for 75 years. Russia and China must be just sick with glee knowing we will back out. They have been waiting and it didn’t happen during TFG first term and they didn’t want to wait any longer.
Vance saying women should stay married even in cases of DV. Wanting to devalue the dollar so we can get an edge on exports but at what cost. Everything we import will be even more plus the new at least 10% additional tariffs.
There is just too much.
I really don’t see anyone that could step in other than Harris but don’t know if she could win. They should have been pushing her into the spotlight the last few years. I know she has been groomed but the message hasn’t gotten out there. Newsome I don’t think his name is out there enough.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 18, 2024 2:37:12 GMT
I saw some poll that the best combo to win would be Harris and Hilary... I personally would like someone that is not another 70 year old but that's just me. Omg people's heads would explode. Wouldn’t they though 😂 I don’t think she would go near another run. I think and hope she is enjoying her retirement.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 18, 2024 3:56:33 GMT
There's no good solution for replacing Biden which is one of the reasons why Democrats and the media need to stop talking about it. VP Harris is really the only choice in terms of fundraising. However, she regrettably made a few mistakes early on and conserve media has attacked her, just like Hillary. Her poll numbers are lower than Biden's. Skip over her and a lot of Democrats will rightfully be angry, creating more chaos. Not only that, but people voted for Biden in the primaries. If the delegates ignore that and choose their own candidate, people will be angry.
There are a lot of rising stars in the Democratic Party that I hope to see in 2028. Pete B, Amy Klobuchar, Gretchen Whitmer, Shapiro, Corey Booker, Beto O'Rourke, Chris Murphy, Jasmine Crockett etc. Newsom clearly has presidential aspirations but he wouldn't be my choice
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 18, 2024 5:15:50 GMT
I think it should be Kamala.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 18, 2024 13:52:34 GMT
I saw some poll that the best combo to win would be Harris and Hilary... I personally would like someone that is not another 70 year old but that's just me. Omg people's heads would explode. That would be an automatic win for Trump... two women? One black... nope not in this world would that ever happen. Sad to say.
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Post by Layce on Jul 18, 2024 14:18:24 GMT
What about Biden stepping down, so Harris can ascend the throne NOW to validate her effectiveness and her ability to garner the necessary support to WIN.
Talk me down, lol
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Post by 3boysnme on Jul 18, 2024 14:49:01 GMT
What about Biden stepping down, so Harris can ascend the throne NOW to validate her effectiveness and her ability to garner the necessary support to WIN. Talk me down, lol Actually that's not a bad idea. Right now, she has support, but no-one really knows just how effective she could be as President. With President Biden down with Covid, now would be a great time to showcase what Vice President Harris can do.
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Post by lisae on Jul 18, 2024 15:10:16 GMT
Practically, Harris has to stay on the ticket. If she is at the top of the ticket, she must have a white male as her VP. Andy Beshears of Kentucky is a strong possibility. He could certainly counter Vance. Our NC governor, Cooper, has been mentioned. I like Cooper. He's been a good governor but he's not very exciting. It he could bring in the votes, his AG Stein who is running to replace him would be ahead of the truly horrible candidates the Republicans put up but he isn't.
If we could start over without Harris, I would pick Gretchen Whitmer to lead the ticket with possibly Wes Moore as VP.
I'm angry with my party right now but it is because no one challenged Biden months ago. I'm angry at his handlers for keeping him under wraps and for feeding his ego rather than giving him a good dose of reality. Biden wasn't a good candidate for a 2nd term when he ran for his first term. No one in their 80's needs to be POTUS.
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Post by lisae on Jul 18, 2024 15:11:31 GMT
What about Biden stepping down, so Harris can ascend the throne NOW to validate her effectiveness and her ability to garner the necessary support to WIN. Talk me down, lol I've heard this suggested. The challenge I think is that she would have to be a new President and run for office in a very abbreviated campaign at the same time.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 18, 2024 15:23:42 GMT
Practically, Harris has to stay on the ticket. If she is at the top of the ticket, she must have a white male as her VP. Andy Beshears of Kentucky is a strong possibility. He could certainly counter Vance. Our NC governor, Cooper, has been mentioned. I like Cooper. He's been a good governor but he's not very exciting. It he could bring in the votes, his AG Stein who is running to replace him would be ahead of the truly horrible candidates the Republicans put up but he isn't. If we could start over without Harris, I would pick Gretchen Whitmer to lead the ticket with possibly Wes Moore as VP. I'm angry with my party right now but it is because no one challenged Biden months ago. I'm angry at his handlers for keeping him under wraps and for feeding his ego rather than giving him a good dose of reality. Biden wasn't a good candidate for a 2nd term when he ran for his first term. No one in their 80's needs to be POTUS. I totally agree. I'm so angry. There were signs before the past couple of months. Were they just ignored? We are at the "someone take grandpa's car keys away" phase.
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Post by peasapie on Jul 18, 2024 15:45:20 GMT
PA Governor Josh Shapiro, California Governor Newsom, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 18, 2024 16:01:03 GMT
Certainly not Newsom. We will loose badly. I love Pete B but he isn't ready. Honestly the Dems need to get their shit together and start a good damn brilliant campaign so Biden gets re elected this could be a good start. LOL
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Post by peasapie on Jul 18, 2024 16:02:25 GMT
Certainly not Newsom. We will loose badly. I love Pete B but he isn't ready. Honestly the Dems need to get their shit together and start a good damn brilliant campaign so Biden gets re elected this could be a good start. LOL HAHAHA
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Post by papersilly on Jul 18, 2024 16:56:16 GMT
seriously, that's what i said to DH last night. i don't mind of Biden steps down but what's the plan after that, people? who is the most viable candidate and who would their their VP choice?
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Post by papersilly on Jul 18, 2024 17:01:42 GMT
It couldn't be anyone but Kamala. Her name is next to Joe's on the campaign war chest. Anyone else would be fundraising from ground zero. I need for both parties to stop electing old, white men. i totally agree. logistically, this is the only choice that makes sense. for people who are saying they are voting for the sake of policy then she is the best person to carry that on and institute some of her own that would align with the party. there simply isn't time and money to bring in an unknown or untried. we have our wishful suggestions but either they are only know regionally or it isn't their time. i think Biden will step down. i think they are just working on getting the transition to move as smoothly as possible so when he announces he is stepping aside, the campaign will be off and running. my only concern now is the VP pick. regarding the old white men, i agree with the old but i think there is still that swath of voters that seek that out. they are still clinging onto the idea that the face of the US is white, male, and middle aged. i would love for a woman, a minority, or LGBT to have their time but it seems that some people are hesitant to put them in the top position.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 18, 2024 17:16:19 GMT
Certainly not Newsom. We will loose badly. I love Pete B but he isn't ready. Honestly the Dems need to get their shit together and start a good damn brilliant campaign so Biden gets re elected How is Pete B not ready, and JD Vance is? ? Biden needs to step down. now, before it gets even later and later.
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Post by Merge on Jul 18, 2024 17:23:41 GMT
Practically, Harris has to stay on the ticket. If she is at the top of the ticket, she must have a white male as her VP. Andy Beshears of Kentucky is a strong possibility. He could certainly counter Vance. Our NC governor, Cooper, has been mentioned. I like Cooper. He's been a good governor but he's not very exciting. It he could bring in the votes, his AG Stein who is running to replace him would be ahead of the truly horrible candidates the Republicans put up but he isn't. If we could start over without Harris, I would pick Gretchen Whitmer to lead the ticket with possibly Wes Moore as VP. I'm angry with my party right now but it is because no one challenged Biden months ago. I'm angry at his handlers for keeping him under wraps and for feeding his ego rather than giving him a good dose of reality. Biden wasn't a good candidate for a 2nd term when he ran for his first term. No one in their 80's needs to be POTUS. I could roll with Harris/Beshears.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 18, 2024 17:37:26 GMT
Certainly not Newsom. We will loose badly. I love Pete B but he isn't ready. Honestly the Dems need to get their shit together and start a good damn brilliant campaign so Biden gets re elected How is Pete B not ready, and JD Vance is? ? Biden needs to step down. now, before it gets even later and later. Biden doesn't need to step down I want a more politically rounded candidate who has been more than a mayor and secretary of transportation And I don't give a rats ass who tRump picks because I won't vote for him or them. I care about democrat candidates
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 18, 2024 17:42:23 GMT
I have not been in the camp that Biden needs to step aside but I expect the announcement to be made in the next few days. I think it will be Kamala and Josh Shapiro on the ticket.
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 18, 2024 17:44:12 GMT
What about Biden stepping down, so Harris can ascend the throne NOW to validate her effectiveness and her ability to garner the necessary support to WIN. Talk me down, lol Actually that's not a bad idea. Right now, she has support, but no-one really knows just how effective she could be as President. With President Biden down with Covid, now would be a great time to showcase what Vice President Harris can do. I agree with this. And let me toss this out there... Joe being sick with Covid could be an easy out for him if he decides to step down.
We need something to fire up the Democratic voters, and it needs to happen fast.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 18, 2024 17:47:42 GMT
I have suddenly realized the significance of all of the pundit retweets I saw this morning about Kamala going back to NC today to campaign with Cooper.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 18, 2024 17:48:15 GMT
I honestly don't understand the need to have him step aside. IMO this election is either a vote for or against Trump. I don't think it matters who is on the ticket.
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Post by hopemax on Jul 18, 2024 17:56:05 GMT
What about Biden stepping down, so Harris can ascend the throne NOW to validate her effectiveness and her ability to garner the necessary support to WIN. Talk me down, lol I think there are some concerns about the Senate if she is elevated to President now. Especially, given the pressure on Sonia Sotomayor to retire so Biden can replace her before the election. If she is elevated to President, she can choose a new VP, but here's the kicker... that choice must be approved by majority vote in both the House (which the GOP controls) and the Senate. So we should assume no VP will be chosen before the election, so there is no one to break ties in the Senate.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 18, 2024 18:02:50 GMT
all other things being equal, it wouldn't hurt for the VP pick to be from a major swing state.
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Post by gar on Jul 18, 2024 18:03:32 GMT
I have not been in the camp that Biden needs to step aside but I expect the announcement to be made in the next few days. I think it will be Kamala and Josh Shapiro on the ticket. I heard a report in BBC (I think) that Pres Obama has said Biden should step aside? Is that being reported in the US? I’m sure it is.
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