Gennifer
Drama Llama
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Jun 26, 2014 8:22:26 GMT
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 21, 2024 21:13:18 GMT
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Post by katlady on Jul 21, 2024 21:14:04 GMT
Speaker Johnson's full statement At this unprecedented juncture in American history, we must be clear about what just happened. The Democrat Party forced the Democrat nominee off the ballot, just over 100 days before the election. Having invalidated the votes of more than 14 million Americans who selected Joe Biden to be the Democrat nominee for president, the self-proclaimed ‘party of democracy’ has proven exactly the opposite. The party’s prospects are no better now with Vice President Kamala Harris, who co-owns the disastrous policy failures of the Biden Administration. As second in command and a completely inept border czar, Harris has been a gleeful accomplice — not only in the destruction of American sovereignty, security, and prosperity, but also in the largest political coverup in U.S. history. She has known for as long as anyone of his incapacity to serve. Regardless of the chaos in the current White House, our adversaries around the globe should be reminded that the U.S. Congress, the U.S. military, and the American people are fully prepared and committed to defend our interests both at home and abroad. If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately. November 5 cannot arrive soon enough. "** Republicans are showing their true colors, yet again!! So, by their logic, if a pro athlete, decides mid-season, that he is going to retire at the end of the current season, he should stop playing right that instance and clean out his locker! He is obviously no longer physically capable of playing out the season. (rolling eyes my eyes)
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Post by katlady on Jul 21, 2024 21:15:36 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 21:17:08 GMT
Biden can give his delegates votes to whomever he chooses. Particularly after the first round..
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Gem Girl
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Jun 29, 2014 19:29:52 GMT
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Post by Gem Girl on Jul 21, 2024 21:35:03 GMT
If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately. November 5 cannot arrive soon enough. Nice try. The two tasks aren't mutually exclusive, Toady Johnson. And, careful what you wish for re November 5. I'm anticipating a blue tsunami.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 21:45:37 GMT
If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately. November 5 cannot arrive soon enough. Nice try. The two tasks aren't mutually exclusive, Toady Johnson. And, careful what you wish for re November 5. I'm anticipating a blue tsunami. Just to make sure, that was a quote from Johnson's speech not my opinion..
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 21, 2024 21:45:50 GMT
it's hard getting old. very hard. playing it out in public must be awful.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 21, 2024 21:47:04 GMT
Biden can give his delegates votes to whomever he chooses. Particularly after the first round.. I don’t think so. I’ve been searching the Internet for info on what happens to those delegates and there’s not one scenario that says that he can give his delegate votes to whoever he chooses. It need to have somebody come out with some kind of information about this and inform us what happens to those delegates
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 21:52:52 GMT
Biden can give his delegates votes to whomever he chooses. Particularly after the first round.. I don’t think so. I’ve been searching the Internet for info on what happens to those delegates and there’s not one scenario that says that he can give his delegate votes to whoever he chooses. It need to have somebody come out with some kind of information about this and inform us what happens to those delegates Ok, I might have gotten that confused with the campaign funds..
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Post by mom2jnk on Jul 21, 2024 21:54:08 GMT
Biden can give his delegates votes to whomever he chooses. Particularly after the first round.. Nope. Biden can't "give his delegates" to anyone. That's not how it works. When he stepped out of the race, all "his" delegates are no longer his, but are now uncommitted.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 21:54:45 GMT
Reason one million and one why Trump was never fit for office www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/21/trump-response-biden-dropping-out/Trump posted his reaction on Truth Social, his social media site, about 45 minutes after Biden shared a letter announcing his withdrawal. “Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve — And never was!” Trump wrote. “He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement.” He added, “We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 21:58:24 GMT
Biden can give his delegates votes to whomever he chooses. Particularly after the first round.. Nope. Biden can't "give his delegates" to anyone. That's not how it works. When he stepped out of the race, all "his" delegates are no longer his, but are now uncommitted. Ok. What happens to Biden's delegates now?There is no system for Biden to appoint someone to take his place as the presumptive Democratic nominee. Biden has been pledged 3,886 delegates throughout the primary races this year. If no candidate wins the majority of the roughly 4,000 delegates, then the party's more than 700 superdelegates, or automatic delegates, will be able to vote at the convention. However, the decision was mainly made by the delegates who were initially elected to Biden. What are superdelegates?In the Democratic Party, a superdelegate is an unelected delegate who can vote for any candidate for the presidential nomination at the party convention. This year, there are an estimated 3,933 pledged delegates and 739 superdelegates, according to NBC. www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/21/what-happens-to-joe-bidens-delegates/74475320007/
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 21, 2024 22:00:11 GMT
I have mixed feelings. I feel that the last three weeks have been a deluge of attacks by Dem politicians and the media, and they worked. I feel badly for Joe.
That said, we have to band together against Trump and vote blue ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT. I’m not sure if Ben Franklin said this, but it fits: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
ETA: I just thought of this quote and looked it up. It also fits. The Founding Fathers bit off a lot when they formed this country, and most of them harbored doubts. We are in a perilous situation now, and Franklin’s words still resonate today.
“A republic, if you can keep it.”
--Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"
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Post by sunshine on Jul 21, 2024 22:08:09 GMT
When will we, the people, get to vote in a second primary?
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Rhondito
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Jun 25, 2014 19:33:19 GMT
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 21, 2024 22:13:27 GMT
My FB feed is full of "I'm with her" and other similar posts. We can do this.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 22:13:45 GMT
Why? Are you a democrat or independent? I don't think so!
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Post by paulao on Jul 21, 2024 22:15:40 GMT
Johnson can go fuck himself.
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Rhondito
Pearl Clutcher
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Jun 25, 2014 19:33:19 GMT
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 21, 2024 22:15:59 GMT
When will we, the people, get to vote in a second primary? Sorry, the Republicans have already locked in Trump as their nominee. You don't get a do-over.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 22:27:20 GMT
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Post by christine58 on Jul 21, 2024 22:30:29 GMT
When will we, the people, get to vote in a second primary? Pretty sure we don’t
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2024 22:31:02 GMT
I have mixed feelings. I feel that the last three weeks have been a deluge of attacks by Dem politicians and the media, and they worked. I feel badly for Joe. That said, we have to band together against Trump and vote blue ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT. I’m not sure if Ben Franklin said this, but it fits: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” ETA: I just thought of this quote and looked it up. It also fits. The Founding Fathers bit off a lot when they formed this country, and most of them harbored doubts. We are in a perilous situation now, and Franklin’s words still resonate today. “A republic, if you can keep it.” --Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" before Trump and covid, I used to often vote republican for our county commissioner as that aligned with my area. I no longer do. I actually hate that I've been forced to vote this way. For example, I dislike my governor, but he's better than the gop's option, so I had to vote for him
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 22:34:18 GMT
Oh crap... Biden had Covid last year.. close to when he may have started having issues.. Long COVID is a term that describes the constellation of long-term health effects caused by infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus. These range from persistent respiratory symptoms, such as shortness of breath, to debilitating fatigue or brain fog that limits people’s ability to work, and conditions such as heart failure and diabetes, which are known to last a lifetime. Over the first half of 2024, a flurry of reports and scientific papers on long COVID added clarity to this complex condition. These include, in particular, insights into how COVID-19 can still wreak havoc in many organs years after the initial viral infection, as well as emerging evidence on viral persistence and immune dysfunction that last for months or years after initial infection. *** Estimates for the first year of the pandemic suggests that at least 65 million people globally have had long COVID. www.rawstory.com/long-puzzle-pieces-are-falling-into-place-and-the-picture-is-unsettling/
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ellen
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Jun 30, 2014 12:52:45 GMT
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Post by ellen on Jul 21, 2024 22:38:28 GMT
If it is within your budget, today is a good day to make a donation to Kamala’s campaign. I donated because it feels good to be part of what is likely to be a strong message.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2024 22:39:17 GMT
My dad just posted this in reply to one of my right leaning cousin's post
He is an old straight, white male. I have no idea what his issue is with Harris, but luckily he does not like Trump so I'm hopeful he will vote for her. (He also said project 2025 wasn't a big deal and when my mother asked him if he read it, he said he hadn't)
This is why this scares me
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ellen
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Post by ellen on Jul 21, 2024 22:42:56 GMT
My dad just posted this in reply to one of my right leaning cousin's post He is an old straight, white male. I have no idea what his issue is with Harris, but luckily he does not like Trump so I'm hopeful he will vote for her. (He also said project 2025 wasn't a big deal and when my mother asked him if he read it, he said he hadn't) This is why this scares me I think you are someone who can get your dad to vote for her. He probably just doesn’t know that much about her. Share a few things about Project 2025 that you think would be important to him.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 21, 2024 22:46:28 GMT
I have mixed feelings. I feel that the last three weeks have been a deluge of attacks by Dem politicians and the media, and they worked. I feel badly for Joe. That said, we have to band together against Trump and vote blue ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT. I’m not sure if Ben Franklin said this, but it fits: “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” ETA: I just thought of this quote and looked it up. It also fits. The Founding Fathers bit off a lot when they formed this country, and most of them harbored doubts. We are in a perilous situation now, and Franklin’s words still resonate today. “A republic, if you can keep it.” --Benjamin Franklin's response to Elizabeth Willing Powel's question: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" before Trump and covid, I used to often vote republican for our county commissioner as that aligned with my area. I no longer do. I actually hate that I've been forced to vote this way. For example, I dislike my governor, but he's better than the gop's option, so I had to vote for him It’s unfortunate, isn’t it? Even “good” Republicans are now forced to bend the knee.
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dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 21, 2024 22:47:27 GMT
My dad just posted this in reply to one of my right leaning cousin's post He is an old straight, white male. I have no idea what his issue is with Harris, but luckily he does not like Trump so I'm hopeful he will vote for her. (He also said project 2025 wasn't a big deal and when my mother asked him if he read it, he said he hadn't) This is why this scares me Here's the latest write up for people who don't want to read over 900 pages:
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Post by sunshine on Jul 21, 2024 22:48:07 GMT
When will we, the people, get to vote in a second primary? Sorry, the Republicans have already locked in Trump as their nominee. You don't get a do-over. You have no fricking clue how I voted. None.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 21, 2024 22:49:50 GMT
Dems just handed the election to Trump. He should have dropped out after the debate Why do you say that? I’m always confused when I see things like this… My vote will now go to another Democrat instead of Biden. I’m certainly not going to swap and vote for Trump. I agree with you Gennifer. It's not like millions of Democrats are going to say "Oh no, Biden has pulled out, well, my only choice now is to vote for trump!" If I were American, I would absolutely vote for whichever Democrat candidate is chosen, without a shadow of a doubt. And now I'd better go and read the other seven pages!
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katybee
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Jun 25, 2014 23:25:39 GMT
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Post by katybee on Jul 21, 2024 22:51:17 GMT
Barack better hurry up and put together a list of "policies" that kamala is gonna run on. Right…like that wasn’t done long before now. You’re aware that, unlike Rs, we actually already have a party platform … right? Lots of projection going on with you. Oh but the republicans do have a platform! It’s called Project 2025.
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