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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 0:12:23 GMT
It will be interesting to see who her running mate is. I swear I saw that Newsome was already the one Biden was saying he was endorsing but glad to see that isn’t the case apparently. Time will tell.
I just find Johnson’s nastiness really bad since he was one saying he should pull out and then saying. No he can’t do that.
It is going to be an interesting few months. I’m not sure how I feel about this. I want someone to beat TFG and am thrilled it’s not an old white guy. I just don’t know if enough will vote for a woman. I hope that enough see what TFG stands for and what he wants to do that they will vote for her rather than not voting or voting third party. I feel this election is the most important in my life.
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Post by Merge on Jul 22, 2024 0:14:47 GMT
Rs are already spouting birther shit online because her parents were not citizens when she was born here in the US. Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the constitution, though.
I swear they can’t help themselves. Any nonwhite candidate must also be not American to a Republican.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 22, 2024 0:22:49 GMT
TFG campaign off to s good start on Harris...Everyone opened with a description of them self, ADA convention including blind and deaf.. @deltaqu57975908 commented, asking "Is she speaking to first graders? She always sounds like she has been drinking!" The problem, of course, is that it appears that the Trump campaign didn't do its "research" into the context of the meeting itself. According to reports, Harris was meeting "with disability rights leaders to mark the anniversary of the ADA. *** Even a former Trump campaign aide, A.J. Delgado, brought up the disability rights aspect of the meeting. x.com/RNCResearch/status/1815132922506068058 |
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Post by FurryP on Jul 22, 2024 0:25:13 GMT
Why do you say that? I’m always confused when I see things like this… My vote will now go to another Democrat instead of Biden. I’m certainly not going to swap and vote for Trump. Because now you have people like me - who may not necessarily think the democratic option is the greatest thing either. I'd die before I voted for Trump and I'd also die before I voted for someone like Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris. People like me now don't even want to vote and people who support Trump have drank the kool aid so far they're going to show up en masse and he's going to landslide this election. Sincere question because I truly do not understand (for you and anyone else in this camp). So you would die before you voted for Trump presumably because you don't want him to win, but you would not vote for Harris, therefore making it easier for him to win? Why? Maybe I am just naive. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 22, 2024 0:25:19 GMT
Why do you say that? I’m always confused when I see things like this… My vote will now go to another Democrat instead of Biden. I’m certainly not going to swap and vote for Trump. Because now you have people like me - who may not necessarily think the democratic option is the greatest thing either. I'd die before I voted for Trump and I'd also die before I voted for someone like Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris. People like me now don't even want to vote and people who support Trump have drank the kool aid so far they're going to show up en masse and he's going to landslide this election. Then you might as well vote for Trump |
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 22, 2024 0:29:38 GMT
I think she's dead either way. Lol
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Post by Olan on Jul 22, 2024 0:32:59 GMT
Commander Biden has nipped snipped and or bit Secret Service on TWENTY FOUR occasions. He left the White House sometime in 2023. I remember coming here to see if anyone made the connection between Genocide Geaux’s mental capacity and the dog issue but nope guess it’s just my conspiracy theory. Wild it took this long if I’m right about when the decline began. Anyway before I sign out remember who Black women were to the 2020 election! Show up show out. Eras tour style!!!
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Post by mellyw on Jul 22, 2024 0:37:38 GMT
He's 76, that's a nope from me! Because of his age? Being 77 didn’t stop people from voting for Biden. Actually I think Manchin would have the best chance of beating Trump. He’s just moderate enough to pull the undecided and independent voters. He’s the only democrat I would ever consider voting for. Joe Manchin is no longer a Democrat, he’s Independent. So he can fuck right off |
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 22, 2024 0:51:08 GMT
I'd die before I voted for Trump and I'd also die before I voted for … Kamala Harris. This is mindblowing to me. I cannot fathom how these are equal choices for anyone. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 0:58:09 GMT
Because of his age? Being 77 didn’t stop people from voting for Biden. Actually I think Manchin would have the best chance of beating Trump. He’s just moderate enough to pull the undecided and independent voters. He’s the only democrat I would ever consider voting for. Because he’s a Republican. No thanks - we’ll manage without you. Absolutely not. He torpedoed voting rights. I'm all for appealing to moderate voters, but there's a limit. Manchin and anyone who sided with the Republicans is a hard pass. If the Democrats were really desperate (and I don't think we're in this situation) the only Republicans that should be considered are Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger and Asa Hutchinson. Maybe Nikki Haley if she didn't bend the knee. But right now, the Democrats should not capitulate and put a Republican on the ticket. 81 million voters came out for Biden & Harris. We can exceed those numbers with Harris and Shapiro or another governor from a swing state. If people truly recognize the danger that Trump poses, they will most likely vote for anyone with a D after their name. Anyone saying they won't vote for Harris in reality probably wouldn't vote for any Democrat. Democrats just need to unite behind Harris today. |
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Post by ellen on Jul 22, 2024 1:01:52 GMT
I'd die before I voted for Trump and I'd also die before I voted for … Kamala Harris. This is mindblowing to me. I cannot fathom how these are equal choices for anyone. Yea, we probably can’t worry about these too people too much. There are people who can be moved to vote for Kamala. We work on them. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 1:07:24 GMT
Because now you have people like me - who may not necessarily think the democratic option is the greatest thing either. I'd die before I voted for Trump and I'd also die before I voted for someone like Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris. People like me now don't even want to vote and people who support Trump have drank the kool aid so far they're going to show up en masse and he's going to landslide this election. Sincere question because I truly do not understand (for you and anyone else in this camp). So you would die before you voted for Trump presumably because you don't want him to win, but you would not vote for Harris, therefore making it easier for him to win? Why? Maybe I am just naive. That’s the attitude I don’t understand and I have had this argument in real life. Couldn’t vote for Biden though so I am sure it will be the same with Harris. Normally a very intelligent person but just couldn’t vote for a democrat even though they were totally against TFG snd would vote third party even though that could help TFG smh. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 22, 2024 1:08:38 GMT
This is mindblowing to me. I cannot fathom how these are equal choices for anyone. Yea, we probably can’t worry about these too people too much. There are people who can be moved to vote for Kamala. We work on them. Okay, but why? What is it that people find so bad about her that they'd rather help Trump get back into office? |
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Post by TXMary on Jul 22, 2024 1:10:54 GMT
As far as the over 65 folks not voting for Harris, you have to remember, we are the Woodstock, hippie generation. We fought hard to make abortion legal. Don’t count us old geezers out. 🤪 My mom, aunt and uncle, all in their late 70's, early 80's are some of the most liberal people I know. My dad is a lifelong Republican but a never Trumper who voted for Biden and will vote for the next Democratic candidate I'm not counting out the older generation My 90-year-old extremely liberal mother will be voting for her as well. As will I but I'm "only" 62.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 1:14:45 GMT
Yea, we probably can’t worry about these too people too much. There are people who can be moved to vote for Kamala. We work on them. Okay, but why? What is it that people find so bad about her that they'd rather help Trump get back into office? A lot of people will probably try to cover their reasons with excuses that she's not qualified, she doesn't have enough foreign policy experience, she's responsible for the crisis at the border, her presidential campaign in 2020 was a disaster etc. In reality, I think some anti Harris people are looking for an excuse to vote for Trump or are not willing to vote for a black woman. In some ways, I think it's a little like Hillary all over again. Republicans and right wing media have been campaigning against Harris and using every opportunity to smear her since she announced she was running in 2020. |
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Post by PLurker on Jul 22, 2024 1:25:19 GMT
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Post by jill8909 on Jul 22, 2024 1:28:45 GMT
completely befuddled. just watching and hoping
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 1:33:12 GMT
Wow. This surprises me but also gives me hope. |
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Post by h2ohdog on Jul 22, 2024 1:37:52 GMT
Yea, we probably can’t worry about these too people too much. There are people who can be moved to vote for Kamala. We work on them. Okay, but why? What is it that people find so bad about her that they'd rather help Trump get back into office? IMO people like this do not really understand our government or voting. ETA: I mean the person who won’t vote rather than vote for KH. |
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Post by ellen on Jul 22, 2024 2:02:29 GMT
Yea, we probably can’t worry about these too people too much. There are people who can be moved to vote for Kamala. We work on them. Okay, but why? What is it that people find so bad about her that they'd rather help Trump get back into office? She’s a woman? She’s black? They are Republicans who can’t imagine ever voting for a Democrat? They want to vote for Trump but just don’t want to say it? I don’t get it either. My youngest daughter will vote in her first presidential election. She is a solid D vote. I have told her that it is important that she talk about why she is supporting Kamala with people her age. Conversations with your peers are so important. There is no point in trying to change the mind of someone who has made up their mind. Move on to someone else. Before she goes back to school I am going to make sure that she requests an absentee ballot. I will tell her that showing other people who would vote for Kamala how to request one online is a way to make a meaningful difference. The words “saving our democracy” have to come out of her mouth several times a day. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 22, 2024 2:07:27 GMT
Republicans: Kamala wants to ban plastic straws! AND she has no children. AND we have spent a lot of $$ on plans to defeat Joe.
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Post by Merge on Jul 22, 2024 2:11:03 GMT
Republicans: Kamala wants to ban plastic straws! AND she has no children. AND we have spent a lot of $$ on plans to defeat Joe. 😆😆😆 Nothing more offensive to the religious right than a woman without children. Even a serial adulterer with children by three different women is better! |
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Post by Laurie on Jul 22, 2024 2:19:40 GMT
Wow. This surprises me but also gives me hope. Have you seen the December interview with Vivek that is circulating around in regards to Haley? |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 2:23:46 GMT
Wow. This surprises me but also gives me hope. Have you seen the December interview with Vivek that is circulating around in regards to Haley? No and I am not a fan of his obviously so afraid how nasty it would be toward her. |
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Post by ellen on Jul 22, 2024 2:25:59 GMT
I just watched Heather Cox Richardson talk about what happened today. I did a search using her name on Facebook to find it. It’s about 30 minutes long. Very inspiring. I think we’re going to win. I really do.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 2:34:28 GMT
I just watched Heather Cox Richardson talk about what happened today. I did a search using her name on Facebook to find it. It’s about 30 minutes long. Very inspiring. I think we’re going to win. I really do. I really like her and Jay Kuo. |
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Post by katlady on Jul 22, 2024 2:38:21 GMT
Question - If Biden steps aside now and Harris takes over, does this count as one term? Would she then be eligible for only one full 4-year term?
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Post by Merge on Jul 22, 2024 2:39:36 GMT
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Post by hopemax on Jul 22, 2024 2:50:05 GMT
Question - If Biden steps aside now and Harris takes over, does this count as one term? Would she then be eligible for only one full 4-year term? This is part of the 22nd amendment. The limit is serving 2 years of someone else’s term. This late in Biden’s term she can run for 2 terms of her own. |
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Post by padresfan619 on Jul 22, 2024 2:50:59 GMT
If you have grandchildren think about their futures when you’re in that ballot box.
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