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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 22, 2024 0:28:01 GMT
You live in California, you've heard all the talk against him. He is "slimy", he is elitist, he is a socialist, he hasn't fixed the homeless problem, he passed the bill that schools don't have to out kids who want to change their gender, etc. But, it would be interesting to see Guilfoyle's reaction if he ever did make it to the White House.  Would you be able to see a reaction? She has had a little touch up Oh my, did you miss the video yesterday.. her Oops.. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 0:30:18 GMT
What about Beto O'Rourke? He didn't beat abbott but could he be a good candidate?? I really like him.. thats why I am wondering... I really have no idea I really like him but if he couldn’t beat Abbott I don’t think he could beat TFG. I think he is one of my favorites though along with Pete but neither would win at this time. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 22, 2024 0:34:40 GMT
Stacey Abrams
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Jul 22, 2024 0:41:07 GMT
Now what makes the stronger ticket? There are a lot of women haters that wouldn't vote for an all-female ticket. There are also a lot of gay haters that wouldn't vote for a gay vice president. I long for a day when those things won't matter. I honestly don't know. I don't think there's any one person who's going to make everyone happy. I do love Pete Buttigeig and think he has a future in politics and I'd love to see him in the White House during my lifetime. Gay haters and all women tickets, I still naively hope that's the Republicans who feel that way. Having said that, I personally am okay with whoever they pick. For my own self, I'm voting blue no matter what. One thing I strongly believe is that the "good" people in office will pick good qualified people to advise them and serve our country, and I have to hold onto that to not become a nervous weeping mess in the next few months. We have this is if we can just come together!! |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 22, 2024 0:41:09 GMT
I love Sec. Buttigieg, but I think his time is in 4 years. Hopefully the democrats that win this year will be incumbents that also win in 2028.  |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 22, 2024 0:43:11 GMT
I feel like many of the voters are disregarded by the primary process in the first place. There really wasn’t any other option besides Biden this year so now for people to be claiming that the will of the voters isn’t being respected is odd to me. Also, there are extenuating circumstances this year and that needs to be considered.
My picks would be Harris and Shapiro, Beshears or Kelly. Would need to learn more to determine which of those I prefer.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 22, 2024 0:46:54 GMT
Well, many feel like he failed the Ohio train derailment situation when he was silent for over 10 days about it. When members of his own party have chimed in, telling him to do his job, you have a problem. Then there is the supply chain issues he wasn't around for when he was on parental leave. Apparently he was declining meetings about it even though he had told everyone he'd be around for any major issues. Thats a major problem when you are the Transportation Secretary. Sure he deserved paternity leave but that was an actual crisis that needed attention and he wasn't willing to take meetings. The most frequent comment I hear is that he is never around when you need him. I like him and think he will make a good VP one day. But he needs some distance. You know what I hate? Photo-Ops. They are a waste of time. I would rather see that someone is actually dealing with whatever. The NTSB and EPA had people on site doing their thing. There was no reason for him to be there as things were being addressed. When he did come it was just a photo-op. Now if nothing was being done by the Federal Agencies that would handle that would be an entirely different story. But that wasn’t the case. Apparently he missed the meetings because he was on paternity leave. People actually has a problem that he took paternity leave even though he was entitled to take it. |
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Post by librarylady on Jul 22, 2024 0:52:44 GMT
What about Beto O'Rourke? He didn't beat abbott but could he be a good candidate?? I really like him.. thats why I am wondering... I really have no idea Beto ruined it for himself the day he said "I am coming for your guns." It immediately made him unelectable. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 0:53:41 GMT
Quit referring to any Democrat as an elitist. The very fact that they are a member of the Democratic Party means they are anything but an elitist. That is just the Republican Party controlling the narrative and actually describing their own party members. adjective. (of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society: elitist country clubbers who have theirs and don't care about anybody else.I think Newsome fits the "elitist" description. He is related to Pelosi. He's a lifetime politician. He will tell people what they want to hear and do the exact opposite. I don't trust him. If there's a ticket with him, I think many people will vote against it simply because of the mess CA is in. We have businesses leaving due to laws being passed. We have very expensive housing and gas and food and everything else because we have so many social programs but yet we have a huge homeless problem. Something isn't working. I totally agree and hope it’s anyone but him. |
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Post by silverlining on Jul 22, 2024 0:55:19 GMT
I like Buttigieg but we need someone from a swing state. Newsome isn’t a good choice for the same reason. I like Kelly or a Governor from a swing state but I need to learn more about them.
I am hoping for a team that can appeal to non Trump Republicans and independents and can motivate young people to vote and feel hopeful about our political system working to solve the problems that are important to them.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 0:56:59 GMT
Well, many feel like he failed the Ohio train derailment situation when he was silent for over 10 days about it. When members of his own party have chimed in, telling him to do his job, you have a problem. Then there is the supply chain issues he wasn't around for when he was on parental leave. Apparently he was declining meetings about it even though he had told everyone he'd be around for any major issues. Thats a major problem when you are the Transportation Secretary. Sure he deserved paternity leave but that was an actual crisis that needed attention and he wasn't willing to take meetings. The most frequent comment I hear is that he is never around when you need him. I like him and think he will make a good VP one day. But he needs some distance. You know what I hate? Photo-Ops. They are a waste of time. I would rather see that someone is actually dealing with whatever. The NTSB and EPA had people on site doing their thing. There was no reason for him to be there as things were being addressed. When he did come it was just a photo-op. Now if nothing was being done by the Federal Agencies that would handle that would be an entirely different story. But that wasn’t the case. Apparently he missed the meetings because he was on paternity leave. People actually has a problem that he took paternity leave even though he was entitled to take it. Yes they said he shouldn’t have been on paternity leave but they called it maternity leave their words not mine. Because they just had to try and get a dig in. |
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Post by librarylady on Jul 22, 2024 0:58:22 GMT
Harris and Kelly sound like 2 that could beat the orange one.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jul 22, 2024 1:00:54 GMT
I think it’s got to be Harris Shapiro. We need swing voters and we need Pennsylvania.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 1:02:22 GMT
What about Beto O'Rourke? He didn't beat abbott but could he be a good candidate?? I really like him.. thats why I am wondering... I really have no idea Beto ruined it for himself the day he said "I am coming for your guns." It immediately made him unelectable. It made him unelectable in Texas and any other red state. I'm not sure how he would do nationally. I like Beto and would love to see him run, but I think Shapiro is a more strategic move. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2024 1:08:31 GMT
I like Buttigieg but we need someone from a swing state. Newsome isn’t a good choice for the same reason. I like Kelly or a Governor from a swing state but I need to learn more about them. I am hoping for a team that can appeal to non Trump Republicans and independents and can motivate young people to vote and feel hopeful about our political system working to solve the problems that are important to them. I'm hoping young voters will swing the election in the Democrats' favor. I think Harris and Shapiro or another governor are candidates that young people could be excited about. Demographics are working against Republicans and in the Democrats' favor with more younger voters. Democrats just need to get out the vote. They need people like Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke in every state. Democrats also need to talk about the issues that are important to young voters - climate change, gun safety, abortion rights etc. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 22, 2024 1:26:31 GMT
Quit referring to any Democrat as an elitist. The very fact that they are a member of the Democratic Party means they are anything but an elitist. That is just the Republican Party controlling the narrative and actually describing their own party members. adjective. (of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society: elitist country clubbers who have theirs and don't care about anybody else.I think Newsome fits the "elitist" description. He is related to Pelosi. He's a lifetime politician. He will tell people what they want to hear and do the exact opposite. I don't trust him. If there's a ticket with him, I think many people will vote against it simply because of the mess CA is in. We have businesses leaving due to laws being passed. We have very expensive housing and gas and food and everything else because we have so many social programs but yet we have a huge homeless problem. Something isn't working. Let me get this straight. So are you saying that the social programs in this state are responsible for high housing, food, & gas? My drink of choice is Canada Dry Ginger Ale. I always buy the 12 box. I get my groceries at Safeway. For a really really long time the cost of my GA was $7.99 for 12. Now it’s $10.99. So are you saying this increase is because of the social programs in this state? As to the cost of housing. CA has the third highest average wage behind MA and NY. When homeowners sell their homes they set a price as high as they feel they can get. And often do. Same with rents. In both these cases they are cutting a chunk of potential homeowners and renters out of the market. And you’re saying this is also a result of the social programs? As far back as I can remember businesses come and go. And that doesn’t change the simple fact that CA has the 5th largest economy in the world. So someone is staying here. CA like all states has problems. And each state thinks their problems are worse than other states. |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 22, 2024 1:26:43 GMT
Sure just give Trump the keys now 🤦🏼♀️ Unfortunately there’s no way in hell a gay man will be VP or president in my lifetime.
As sucky as it is, she needs to add a younger white male to the ticket to have any chance of winning. Although he may not be as young as some want, Mark Kelley is my choice. He’s a center democrat who independents and moderate conservatives will support.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 22, 2024 1:32:27 GMT
Before I write off Newsome I’d like to see some national polling. The man is supposedly hated and a horrible governor yet won his recall election with 62% of the vote. If he’s so horrible what happened?
I like him and I’d vote for him in a general election. I like some of the laws he’s passing but then I’m not a homophobic xenophobic racist.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 22, 2024 1:37:48 GMT
Before I write off Newsome I’d like to see some national polling. The man is supposedly hated and a horrible governor yet won his recall election with 62% of the vote. If he’s so horrible what happened? I like him and I’d vote for him in a general election. I like some of the laws he’s passing but then I’m not a homophobic xenophobic racist. Because republicans only make up about 24% of registered voters in California. Democrats 47%. |
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Post by supersoda on Jul 22, 2024 1:40:30 GMT
I heard Kelly floated last week, and thought it was a great suggestion. As much as I like many of the other options, I'd put Harris/Kelly at the top of my list.
As others have said, I have serious concerns about a more diverse ticket winning, although I'd love to see it happen.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 22, 2024 1:43:39 GMT
Unfortunately there’s no way in hell a gay man will be VP or president in my lifetime. You planning on dying soon? It’s going to happen a lot sooner than you think… I suspect within the next 15 years, at the most. |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 22, 2024 1:50:04 GMT
Unfortunately there’s no way in hell a gay man will be VP or president in my lifetime. You planning on dying soon? It’s going to happen a lot sooner than you think… I suspect within the next 15 years, at the most. Trust me I want to be wrong but in the next 15 years? I just don’t see it. Please please please prove me wrong. 😁 |
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Post by Laurie on Jul 22, 2024 1:53:28 GMT
Should we be concerned that some of the top Democrats haven’t endorsed VP Harris yet? I feel like not only did they just screw over Biden but are going to do the same to her. Idk maybe my spider senses are too cynical right now.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jul 22, 2024 2:03:10 GMT
Should we be concerned that some of the top Democrats haven’t endorsed VP Harris yet? I feel like not only did they just screw over Biden but are going to do the same to her. Idk maybe my spider senses are too cynical right now. Harris will benefit from an open convention and needs to avoid the appearance of a “rigged” nomination. She has the support to win the convention, so I think that’s the best approach. Just because some democrats have not voiced support yet doesn’t mean they won’t support her at the convention. It’s wise to consider all options even if you know in your heart you will support her. |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jul 22, 2024 2:19:12 GMT
I like Harris-_______(in this order):
1. Beshear: brings a “non-coastal elite” vibe to the ticket, and anyone who can win statewide offices 3 times in deep-red KY has something going for him. He is finished as governor due to term limits, so this is a good next step for him. I think he could really help in VA and NC. I would love to see him deliver KY, but in spite of his popularity there, I don’t think he can overcome the Kamala effect there.
2. Shapiro: brings PA with him; has a personality that just exudes sincerity
3. Kelly: brings the military experience to cancel out Vance. However, this gives us 2 on the ticket from the west, so if you buy into regional theories, you probably prefer someone east of the Mississippi. That used to be pretty important when it was hard to know much about someone on the other side of the country, but I’m not sure it matters that much with social media.
Who I don’t want:
Newsom—just ick
Pete—I love him, but he hasn’t been particularly visible with his cabinet position to create a record to run on. And the unfortunately, too many are not ready for a gay VP.
Whitmer: too many aren’t ready for 2women on the ticket.
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Post by Zee on Jul 22, 2024 2:29:49 GMT
I don't have any guesses on who she'll pick. I'm just happy I no longer have to face the idea of knowingly voting for someone in an obvious mental decline. I just wish Biden would hand over the reins now and let her see what she can do in the next 100 days.
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Post by Zee on Jul 22, 2024 2:33:42 GMT
Idk it seems like some big donors just took a shot at democracy by disregarding the people that voted in the primaries. I don’t want Trump winning but I also don’t want these donors getting rewarded by throwing their weight around. They shit all over Biden. I see what you are saying. Yes, it does suck that so many voters are being disregarded. BUT - and it's a huge BUT - Biden has not been ok for awhile now. He just wasn't. Yes, he was having a good day every now and then, but he is not up to serving 4 years. Hell, I doubt he would make it one year into his second term. He just couldn't. And our country needs stability and that wasn't going to happen as long as Biden was teeter tottering with 'does he have dementia' or not. Im not saying he was a bad man or that he didn't have good intentions. But physically and mentally, he's wore out. Did the big donors have a bunch to do with this? Yes. But those same donors are the ones who helped him get this far in politics. Biden has already burned through 90+% of his raised money from June already. George Clooney, who has raised millions for Biden, said something has changed with Biden. I am sure Clooney did not say that lightly either so it must be pretty obvious that a huge decline has happened. The DNC is truly stuck between a rock and a hard place with Biden waiting so long to drop out. If he had stayed, he wasn't going to win and if he did, the DNC was going to go broke getting him to the finish line. I for one am glad he spoke up. Like you said, I'm sure he didn't do it lightly. Throwing good money after bad wasn't going to win the election. I'm relieved I don't have to vote for someone who is incapable of debating Donald Trump. It was an embarrassment to even consider it, as far as I'm concerned. We may not (probably won't) win this election, but at least I can cast my vote with a clear conscience that I'm voting for someone who has all her faculties. I wish he'd step aside right now and let her take over. |
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Post by Sorrel on Jul 22, 2024 2:38:02 GMT
You planning on dying soon? It’s going to happen a lot sooner than you think… I suspect within the next 15 years, at the most. Trust me I want to be wrong but in the next 15 years? I just don’t see it. Please please please prove me wrong. 😁 I think there is a pretty good chance that Jared Polis, the gay governor of Colorado (my state) will run for president or be a VP pick. |
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 22, 2024 3:26:29 GMT
Trust me I want to be wrong but in the next 15 years? I just don’t see it. Please please please prove me wrong. 😁 I think there is a pretty good chance that Jared Polis, the gay governor of Colorado (my state) will run for president or be a VP pick. No way.. Polis on bottom of a VP or POTUS |
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 22, 2024 3:28:23 GMT
I don't have any guesses on who she'll pick. I'm just happy I no longer have to face the idea of knowingly voting for someone in an obvious mental decline. I just wish Biden would hand over the reins now and let her see what she can do in the next 100 days. No, Harris needs to vote for ties in Senate. Joe can still get bills passed. |
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