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Post by jayfab on Jul 27, 2024 5:08:32 GMT
This has to be my favorite opening ceremony. It's different - I love the athletes being on boats! I also love having Peyton and Snoop on there. The rain is very unfortunate but the performers are still killing it. Yes, I thought the same things. And I even am enjoying the commercials.
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Post by ralams3 on Jul 27, 2024 5:58:28 GMT
I didn't see any Minions. That must have only been on the US broadcast.
I don't know why, but the last group of torch bearers walking together made me cry. The things that make us emotional ...
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2024 6:11:45 GMT
I didn't see any Minions. That must have only been on the US broadcast. youtu.be/AKtda1wI05Q?si=RlfXDwlNgyxI9zX5I think is was part of the opening ceremonies, not a US only thing. Minions are French in origin.
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Post by KikiPea on Jul 27, 2024 6:15:09 GMT
But the Minions? WHYYYYYYYY Illumination studios is based there and created minions. So they did a thing. They said it was the first time they did the videos and live stuff mixed together. It still felt a bit out of place to me.
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Post by sueg on Jul 27, 2024 6:19:34 GMT
I’m watching the nbc prime time coverage, and I think it sucks!! So it’s really hard to appreciate the whole show and ceremonies. We don’t get to know who the flag bearers are for each country, or even the athletes. It feels disjointed. And the lack of really good explanations on what is going on, besides the scripted host comments. Blech Not naming the flag bearers and the descriptions of what was happening is up to your commentators. We watched the BBC - up to the ‘R’ countries, when we went to bed - and we got all the flag bearers, even of small nations with only a few athletes, and a fairly good description of the action.
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Post by wellway on Jul 27, 2024 7:36:10 GMT
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Post by wellway on Jul 27, 2024 10:38:38 GMT
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Post by peasapie on Jul 27, 2024 12:02:58 GMT
I'm annoyed that those fountains are obstructing the camera view of some of the boats. And okay a French rapper! Speaking of rappers, Snoop seems to be having a good time, but Kelly Clarkson needs to stop with the girly squeeing at everything. It's very Drewy and cringe. Is Kelly Clarkson co-hosting with Peyton Manning? I am so confused, what the hell do either of them really have to do with the Olympics? Yeah they infused a lot of show biz into it. I liked it but I would have liked a bit more insight into what sorts the athletes were participating in as they floated by.
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Post by mammajamma on Jul 27, 2024 12:39:44 GMT
We turned it off after the ménage-a-trois scene. We missed the last supper scene but sounds disgraceful to billions of people. No one would have mocked other religions like that. It’s a strange day that we can’t watch the Olympics opening ceremony with my 8 year old son without seeing such sexual explorations celebrated. I thought women want to be seen for more than a sexual body? This is certainly not the image I want my son thinking women are there for. If there was a parental advisory, I certainly missed it. But this was more than PG.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 27, 2024 13:32:30 GMT
I’m watching the nbc prime time coverage, and I think it sucks!! So it’s really hard to appreciate the whole show and ceremonies. We don’t get to know who the flag bearers are for each country, or even the athletes. It feels disjointed. And the lack of really good explanations on what is going on, besides the scripted host comments. Blech Not naming the flag bearers and the descriptions of what was happening is up to your commentators. We watched the BBC - up to the ‘R’ countries, when we went to bed - and we got all the flag bearers, even of small nations with only a few athletes, and a fairly good description of the action. Yep! That’s why I said is was nbc primetine
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 27, 2024 13:34:00 GMT
We turned it off after the ménage-a-trois scene. We missed the last supper scene but sounds disgraceful to billions of people. No one would have mocked other religions like that. It’s a strange day that we can’t watch the Olympics opening ceremony with my 8 year old son without seeing such sexual explorations celebrated. I thought women want to be seen for more than a sexual body? This is certainly not the image I want my son thinking women are there for. If there was a parental advisory, I certainly missed it. But this was more than PG. I told my dd people would be bent out of shape over that part.
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Post by disneypal on Jul 27, 2024 13:46:25 GMT
But the Minions? WHYYYYYYYY I thought that was odd, out of place & too long. I also thought the ménage à trois library thing was weird. But most of it was so beautiful. I liked the torch bearer going to the iconic Paris landmarks. The Eiffel Tower light show & cauldron lighting were amazing!!
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 27, 2024 15:12:34 GMT
I thought the menage a trois was stylish but unnecessary. There were so many little bits of things that the announcers didn't understand that it felt like a drug-fueled Thanksgiving Day parade.
I don't understand why they had to mock the Last Supper of all things. I love drag queens, but did they have to take a swipe at Christians? I know Christians have not been kind to them, but was this really in the spirit of peace and unity? The Christians are apoplectic about the horse and rider, too, ("Death comes on a pale horse," or something) but it was one of my favorite parts.
Once Celine Dion sang, all was forgiven.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 27, 2024 15:38:49 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 27, 2024 15:42:14 GMT
I thought the menage a trois was stylish but unnecessary. There were so many little bits of things that the announcers didn't understand that it felt like a drug-fueled Thanksgiving Day parade. I don't understand why they had to mock the Last Supper of all things. I love drag queens, but did they have to take a swipe at Christians? I know Christians have not been kind to them, but was this really in the spirit of peace and unity? The Christians are apoplectic about the horse and rider, too, ("Death comes on a pale horse," or something) but it was one of my favorite parts. Once Celine Dion sang, all was forgiven. Seems I missed more than I thought...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 27, 2024 15:48:18 GMT
Today, a day later, I just saw the Beyonce piece. Well done!!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 27, 2024 15:53:03 GMT
Couldn't have been more varied responses in this house. My daughter loved it, my husband went to bed after an hour, and I was pretty in between. She was rolling at the library scene - I can't say my husband was offended, but thought it was a bit much for a family oriented show. There were pieces everyone liked, but my husband thought it was way too disjointed and that was a big negative for him. I actually really liked the boats and mixing in the parade of nations with different musical numbers as I think the parade of nations gets pretty boring typically (for me anyway). Everyone pretty much loved the Marie Antoinette and hated the Minions - pretty sure that's when my husband bailed.
The "Last Supper" controversy was also varied. I hadn't heard anything as I was trying to mostly watch the show with few spoilers. I DID think of the last supper at the intro shot and even did a quick count and thought to myself the numbers didn't match the actual painting so was misseeing. I wouldn't have been offended either way. My daughter had seen the controversy on social media and didn't see it at all. She just didn't think it looked enough like the last supper to understand why people were outraged.
Oh and we all universally could not understand what was going with the can can. It was TERRIBLE. Could they not hear the music? Did they find random people off the street to throw pink dresses on - it was truly cringe worthy.
I'm not sure why people care so much about hearing who the flag bearer is, not something that adds much to me - other than the guy from Toga in previous years. Loved, loved, loved to see Celine and she absolutely killed it. So happy for her.
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Post by sueg on Jul 27, 2024 16:06:56 GMT
I thought the menage a trois was stylish but unnecessary. There were so many little bits of things that the announcers didn't understand that it felt like a drug-fueled Thanksgiving Day parade. I don't understand why they had to mock the Last Supper of all things. I love drag queens, but did they have to take a swipe at Christians? I know Christians have not been kind to them, but was this really in the spirit of peace and unity? The Christians are apoplectic about the horse and rider, too, ("Death comes on a pale horse," or something) but it was one of my favorite parts. Once Celine Dion sang, all was forgiven. Others have mentioned these, so not just a reply to you. 1. They didn’t show a ménage a trois - they showed three people going into a room and shutting the door. Interpret that any way you choose. 2. It was not a mockery of the Last Supper, but a depiction of a Dionysian bacchanalia. Greek mythology, referencing the origins of the games. All the actors were one side of a runway because they were staging it on the side of a river - if they’d had people on both sides no one would have seen what was happening. I have heard that the US coverage missed a vital part of this tableau - at the beginning, a nearly naked pale blue man was on the ‘table’, representing Dionysus. 3. The Pale Horse and rider represented the Greek goddess after whom the Seine is named. Nothing biblical about it.
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2024 16:07:33 GMT
I think France mocked a lot of things about their past in their opening ceremony. There was the Last Supper, the menage a trois in the library, the horse and rider of death, the headless Marie Antoinette, the scenes of the French Revolution, etc. I even wonder if the messed up can can dancing was on purpose?
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Post by sueg on Jul 27, 2024 16:11:59 GMT
I think France mocked a lot of things about their past in their opening ceremony. There was the Last Supper, the menage a trois in the library, the horse and rider of death, the headless Marie Antoinette, the scenes of the French Revolution, etc. I even wonder if the messed up can can dancing was on purpose? Again - it was NOT the Last Supper and it was NOT the pale horse of death.
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Post by gar on Jul 27, 2024 16:14:41 GMT
I thought the menage a trois was stylish but unnecessary. There were so many little bits of things that the announcers didn't understand that it felt like a drug-fueled Thanksgiving Day parade. I don't understand why they had to mock the Last Supper of all things. I love drag queens, but did they have to take a swipe at Christians? I know Christians have not been kind to them, but was this really in the spirit of peace and unity? The Christians are apoplectic about the horse and rider, too, ("Death comes on a pale horse," or something) but it was one of my favorite parts. Once Celine Dion sang, all was forgiven. Others have mentioned these, so not just a reply to you. 1. They didn’t show a ménage a trois - they showed three people going into a room and shutting the door. Interpret that any way you choose. 2. It was not a mockery of the Last Supper, but a depiction of a Dionysian bacchanalia. Greek mythology, referencing the origins of the games. All the actors were one side of a runway because they were staging it on the side of a river - if they’d had people on both sides no one would have seen what was happening. I have heard that the US coverage missed a vital part of this tableau - at the beginning, a nearly naked pale blue man was on the ‘table’, representing Dionysus. 3. The Pale Horse and rider represented the Greek goddess after whom the Seine is named. Nothing biblical about it. For your info mammajamma 😊
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2024 16:23:08 GMT
I think France mocked a lot of things about their past in their opening ceremony. There was the Last Supper, the menage a trois in the library, the horse and rider of death, the headless Marie Antoinette, the scenes of the French Revolution, etc. I even wonder if the messed up can can dancing was on purpose? Again - it was NOT the Last Supper and it was NOT the pale horse of death. Agree, but the organizers had to know how it would be generally interpreted. A different topic ... I saw this... "LA’s bid included plans to split its opening ceremony between Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum — also a host in 1932 and 1984 — and SoFi Stadium. Those plans could change in the next four years, though." Oh please, no! Make it all at the Coliseum, please!!
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Post by jayfab on Jul 27, 2024 16:23:41 GMT
I thought the menage a trois was stylish but unnecessary. There were so many little bits of things that the announcers didn't understand that it felt like a drug-fueled Thanksgiving Day parade. I don't understand why they had to mock the Last Supper of all things. I love drag queens, but did they have to take a swipe at Christians? I know Christians have not been kind to them, but was this really in the spirit of peace and unity? The Christians are apoplectic about the horse and rider, too, ("Death comes on a pale horse," or something) but it was one of my favorite parts. Once Celine Dion sang, all was forgiven. Others have mentioned these, so not just a reply to you. 1. They didn’t show a ménage a trois - they showed three people going into a room and shutting the door. Interpret that any way you choose. 2. It was not a mockery of the Last Supper, but a depiction of a Dionysian bacchanalia. Greek mythology, referencing the origins of the games. All the actors were one side of a runway because they were staging it on the side of a river - if they’d had people on both sides no one would have seen what was happening. I have heard that the US coverage missed a vital part of this tableau - at the beginning, a nearly naked pale blue man was on the ‘table’, representing Dionysus. 3. The Pale Horse and rider represented the Greek goddess after whom the Seine is named. Nothing biblical about it. Thanks for that info.
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Post by gar on Jul 27, 2024 16:26:43 GMT
Again - it was NOT the Last Supper and it was NOT the pale horse of death. Agree, but the organizers had to know how it would be generally interpreted. I think a lot of it may have come down to the commentary that went along with it to be honest. And the viewer - I’ve never heard of the pale horse/death whatever and although I know of the Last Supper I’m not Christian so that wouldn’t have sprung to my mind anyway.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 27, 2024 16:28:15 GMT
Another example of History IS important, be familiar!
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2024 16:33:33 GMT
I’ve never heard of the pale horse/death whatever and although I know of the Last Supper I’m not Christian so that wouldn’t have sprung to my mind anyway. Is it part of the Book of Revelations, and it is one of the figures of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. One of the horses was a pale horse that was rode by Death.
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Post by smasonnc on Jul 27, 2024 16:42:15 GMT
my husband thought it was way too disjointed Me too. Too many little bits of fluff without context, probably a problem with the commentators. Oh and we all universally could not understand what was going with the can can. It was TERRIBLE. Could they not hear the music? Did they find random people off the street to throw pink dresses on - it was truly cringe worthy. Glad I'm not the only one. 1. They didn’t show a ménage a trois - they showed three people going into a room and shutting the door. Interpret that any way you choose. I thought it was very stylish and wasn't offended by that but I thought it was just more fluff in an already bloated show. 2. It was not a mockery of the Last Supper, but a depiction of a Dionysian bacchanalia. Greek mythology, referencing the origins of the games. Maybe the NBC announcers should have done a little prep so they could provide context. If Hoda and Savannah hadn't been so busy wetting themselves over Simone Biles on Facetime... There are almost 600 other athletes. The horse and rider were spectacular. The only thing I want to protest is all those grand pianos along the way in the rain. That's a sin in anyone's book.
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Post by sueg on Jul 27, 2024 17:17:25 GMT
Again - it was NOT the Last Supper and it was NOT the pale horse of death. Agree, but the organizers had to know how it would be generally interpreted. A different topic ... I saw this... "LA’s bid included plans to split its opening ceremony between Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum — also a host in 1932 and 1984 — and SoFi Stadium. Those plans could change in the next four years, though." Oh please, no! Make it all at the Coliseum, please!! The only people I am seeing who interpreted the Bacchanalia as the Last Supper and the horse as the Pale Horse of death are Americans. No one in Europe interpreted it that way. Now, some of that may be down to our commentary telling us more about what was going on, but some is down to a different understanding of history, mythology and religion.
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Post by sueg on Jul 27, 2024 17:20:32 GMT
I’ve never heard of the pale horse/death whatever and although I know of the Last Supper I’m not Christian so that wouldn’t have sprung to my mind anyway. Is it part of the Book of Revelations, and it is one of the figures of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. One of the horses was a pale horse that was rode by Death. Which is something that wouldn’t be known by anyone who is not Christian, and even then, the Apocalyptic texts are more a part of US evangelical Christianity. I’m life-long Catholic, and that didn’t cross my mind as I watched.
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2024 17:29:59 GMT
Is it part of the Book of Revelations, and it is one of the figures of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. One of the horses was a pale horse that was rode by Death. Which is something that wouldn’t be known by anyone who is not Christian, and even then, the Apocalyptic texts are more a part of US evangelical Christianity. I’m life-long Catholic, and that didn’t cross my mind as I watched. I am not Christian. It is just something I learned about in a comparative religion class and through cultural things, like movies and books. The first thing I thought of when seeing the horse and rider was something dark. It was a cool thing and I thought it was neat. ETA - Just wanted to add, I've taken a lot of art history classes. You learn a lot about religion and imagery in these classes, especially ones about European art history.
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