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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2024 21:58:49 GMT
Imagine having a been-in-the-trenches teacher in the White House - what he could do for public education and the DOE. I'm sure he's so strong on making sure kids have food and hygiene supplies because he was one of the teachers who kept a drawer full of such things for his students and/or saw the tragedy of kids who went without.
Someone on Twitter pointed out that Tim Walz is the dad so many of us lost to Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and the endless stream of right-wing nonsense that's appeared since then. My dad was a Rush listener and I'm sure he would have been all in on the Trump train if he'd lived that long. Walz isn't quite old enough to be my dad, but he makes me think of what my dad could have been around the time he died if not for the poison of right wing media. It's wonderful and sad at the same time.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 6, 2024 22:07:37 GMT
I'm interested in getting to know more. I was pretty convinced it was going to be Kelley or Shapiro for swing state value, so haven't learned a lot about him. Sounds like an interesting guy and honestly, when things go like they're supposed to - he doesn't need to do much. Competency if worst happens is all we need, and any extra expertise and knowledge is gravy.
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Post by nightnurse on Aug 6, 2024 22:08:41 GMT
I was a Republican until our 38 count convicted former president came along. Don’t get me wrong, I like Governor Walz but I was very disappointed with our last legislative session. Any social cause had money thrown at it. I don’t think that every child in MN should get free breakfast and lunch. Every family here gets a $1700/per child tax credit with no cap. One of my friends has been looking for a house to rent. She is in law enforcement. A potential landlord told her that he would prefer to rent to someone on section 8 because he could get $4500 a month from them. $4500 a month from someone who gets government assistance when someone else with a job can’t afford that. After MN spent the surplus, real estate taxes increased significantly, taxes and fees on just about everything else went up. I appreciate how progressive MN is but the spending under the Democratic leadership is bleeding us dry. The tax cuts for the wealthy throughout the country are what’s bleeding us dry. And subsidies for the wealthy. GE and Amazon pay almost nothing in taxes. Walmart gets away with not paying its workers’ because the taxpayers fund food stamps instead. And as for children gettting fed, yes please. Always. No matter what it costs. But to offset some of the cost, we can do away with the food credit for Congress. They each, all 500 and something of them, gets $79 a day. I’ve never heard one Republican ever speak about this waste of money, because giving money to people who already make well over a hundred grand a year, is right on brand. But feeding children?! The socialist horror! |
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 6, 2024 22:09:11 GMT
I am watching the rally in Philadelphia. Josh Shapiro just finished his speech. PA peas - wow! I have read and heard all sorts of good things. He makes me feel very good about the future of our party. I’m really hoping that people will be feeling pumped up about Tim Walz after they get to know him. Democrats in MN can hardly stand it we are so excited. We all need to be positive and pass it on! We understand the assignment! I am super jazzed about Walz. What I learned through the veepstakes is how super jazzed I am about a lot of democrats. I get the downsides of Shapiro, but he is a really solid governor and impressive orator. I am so excited that people are inspired by Buttigieg, whose Pod Save America interview several years ago was one of the best I have heard. We have a literal astronaut! A female kick-asa swing-state governor! A democrat who got himself elected governor of a dark-red state and protects LGBTQ+ kids! I am overwhelmed with optimism. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2024 22:19:23 GMT
The more I hear about him, the more I like him. He has the advantage of being in the military like Kelly without the risk of potentially losing a Senate seat. And he doesn't have the disadvantage of potentially causing a rift in the party over Gaza or the scandal of a sexual harassment settlement against a staff member like Shapiro. I'm really excited about his background in education, too. I like Ken Burns' perspective. Such a contrast to Trump who talked about airports during the Revolutionary war, talked about Frederick Douglass like he was still alive, falsely claimed a battle was fought at his golf course, falsely blamed Canada for burning down the White House in 1812, suggested that Andrew Jackson could have prevented the Civil War or President Lincoln could have negotiated it. Ken BurnsKen Burns @kenburns
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2024 22:21:23 GMT
I know this is going to come up in debates and by trump, it’s already sprouting up on Facebook, but how does everyone feel how Walz handled the George Floyd riots? Esp Minnesotaians..how is he going to address that mess up?
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Post by ellen on Aug 6, 2024 22:30:47 GMT
I know this is going to come up in debates and by trump, it’s already sprouting up on Facebook, but how does everyone feel how Walz handled the George Floyd riots? Esp Minnesotaians..how is he going to address that mess up? He was reelected two years after the riots, so the majority of Minnesotans did not feel it was something to punish him for. The cop was convicted. Tim Walz has had to deal with real problems. Governing is hard. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2024 22:45:19 GMT
I agree. But all I hear up here is how he burned mpls down.
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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2024 22:47:08 GMT
I agree. But all I hear up here is how he burned mpls down. I think the people who are saying that were never going to vote for a Democratic ticket anyway. And the people who will vote for a Democrat are not listening to the people who say crazy things like that. |
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Post by ellen on Aug 6, 2024 23:00:31 GMT
I agree. But all I hear up here is how he burned mpls down. You live in a red zone and that is what those people will say. The beauty of an election is that it doesn’t have to be unanimous. Have conversations with people who can be persuaded. Walz was a great pick and enjoy that it is eating up all the people who can only criticize. We need to act like winners because positive energy is contagious. People are looking for a team to bring us back to how our country should be. Do I get a tee shirt or a sweatshirt? |
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Post by littlemama on Aug 6, 2024 23:12:58 GMT
Snub? What snub? He was in the running to be the running mate and she chose the other guy. No snub. They will make up anything, wont they? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2024 23:23:51 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 6, 2024 23:25:44 GMT
I have to admit, I felt a bit disappointed when I heard the news this morning, but that's only because I hadn't really heard of him before, and I had other people who I would have liked to have seen as VP. Then when I saw footage of him walking out to the podium, I immediately thought "Oh, an old white guy, of course that's why he was chosen!" (Then I heard that he isn't old, he's only 60. That surprised me - my friends who are 60 look much younger than him.)
I'm feeling better about it now, having read some positive things on this thread from Peas whose opinions I respect.
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Post by 3boysnme on Aug 6, 2024 23:30:36 GMT
I have to admit, I felt a bit disappointed when I heard the news this morning, but that's only because I hadn't really heard of him before, and I had other people who I would have liked to have seen as VP. Then when I saw footage of him walking out to the podium, I immediately thought "Oh, an old white guy, of course that's why he was chosen!" (Then I heard that he isn't old, he's only 60. That surprised me - my friends who are 60 look much younger than him.) I'm feeling better about it now, having read some positive things on this thread from Peas whose opinions I respect. I agree! When I saw on FB who was picked, my first thought was, Great, an old white dude! But then I started reading about him. He is really about the perfect pick for VP. And he is a year younger than me! LOL! |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 7, 2024 0:13:15 GMT
This is the comment that got the rural conservatives all bent out of shape.
Walz, describing conservative areas of his state during a roundtable while campaigning for governor in 2017, said Democrats “go into depression” when they see electoral maps shaded in red, but “it's mostly rocks and cows that are in that red area.”
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Post by ellen on Aug 7, 2024 0:35:01 GMT
This is the comment that got the rural conservatives all bent out of shape. Walz, describing conservative areas of his state during a roundtable while campaigning for governor in 2017, said Democrats “go into depression” when they see electoral maps shaded in red, but “it's mostly rocks and cows that are in that red area.” I saw a map recently where they put red and blue dots where the people live and leave the land area white. It’s quite a difference and it’s empowering to the people who do feel like they are alone in their red states. Land doesn’t vote. People do. If TW had to do it again he’d probably say something more to that effect. Cindy, I need you to quit doing the work of Republicans. I say that with love to my Democratic MN sister who probably voted for Tim Walz twice! We can’t worry about the haters. The rural conservatives are always going to be bent out of shape. Let’s not bring the party down. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 7, 2024 1:20:24 GMT
This is the comment that got the rural conservatives all bent out of shape. Walz, describing conservative areas of his state during a roundtable while campaigning for governor in 2017, said Democrats “go into depression” when they see electoral maps shaded in red, but “it's mostly rocks and cows that are in that red area.” I saw a map recently where they put red and blue dots where the people live and leave the land area white. It’s quite a difference and it’s empowering to the people who do feel like they are alone in their red states. Land doesn’t vote. People do. If TW had to do it again he’d probably say something more to that effect. Cindy, I need you to quit doing the work of Republicans. I say that with love to my Democratic MN sister who probably voted for Tim Walz twice! We can’t worry about the haters. The rural conservatives are always going to be bent out of shape. Let’s not bring the party down. I know. I guess sometimes I like to share with the Ps some of reality out there, and what republicans think, and what I have to hear. Sharing the hypocrisy I guess you could say. Oh, I’m full on democrat. People up here absolutely can not understand how I can be. But I can also realistically see some of their concerns. Esp with the economy. Thanks Ellen. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 7, 2024 1:33:30 GMT
I have to admit, I felt a bit disappointed when I heard the news this morning, but that's only because I hadn't really heard of him before, and I had other people who I would have liked to have seen as VP. Then when I saw footage of him walking out to the podium, I immediately thought "Oh, an old white guy, of course that's why he was chosen!" (Then I heard that he isn't old, he's only 60. That surprised me - my friends who are 60 look much younger than him.) I'm feeling better about it now, having read some positive things on this thread from Peas whose opinions I respect. I saw a funny quote from him somewhere today where he said something to the effect of, he knows he looks older than he is, but monitoring a school lunchroom for 20 years will do that to you. No one’s leaving that job with a full head of hair! 🤣 |
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Post by flanz on Aug 7, 2024 1:35:26 GMT
I just watched the Harris/Walz event in Philly today and fell in love with Tim Walz. I think he's a perfect partner for Kamala. I have HOPE. Loved Tim's entire speech. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOdPrKao1YA' I highly recommend watching the entire event. Loved Kamala's words of introduction of TW, all of the ways to address him: Coach, teacher, etc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYM3HRvq4nM |
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Post by mmmom on Aug 7, 2024 1:35:34 GMT
I encourage those who didn’t watch the rally with Harris-Walz to check it out to get a sense of him. I was on his bandwagon early and my 25 yo daughter and her cohort definitely supported the old guy. Shapiro is my governor but he definitely was vulnerable on some issues, esp w young people. To think how depressed I was just a few weeks ago with the handling of the Biden situation I feel so hopeful and happy to support the Harris-Walz ticket today. We arent’t going back!
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Post by ellen on Aug 7, 2024 1:40:53 GMT
I saw a map recently where they put red and blue dots where the people live and leave the land area white. It’s quite a difference and it’s empowering to the people who do feel like they are alone in their red states. Land doesn’t vote. People do. If TW had to do it again he’d probably say something more to that effect. Cindy, I need you to quit doing the work of Republicans. I say that with love to my Democratic MN sister who probably voted for Tim Walz twice! We can’t worry about the haters. The rural conservatives are always going to be bent out of shape. Let’s not bring the party down. I know. I guess sometimes I like to share with the Ps some of reality out there, and what republicans think, and what I have to hear. Sharing the hypocrisy I guess you could say. Oh, I’m full on democrat. People up here absolutely can not understand how I can be. But I can also realistically see some of their concerns. Esp with the economy. Thanks Ellen. Maybe Tim Walz will feel a little less like an enemy to them as they are forced to pay more attention. Donald Trump has nothing in common with them. TW knows how to clean a fish, shoot a pheasant, and has shoveled some snow in his lifetime. He is middle America. I also feel concerned about the economy, but Donald Trump will destroy Democracy and that seems like a bigger fish to fry. Maybe if we can crush Donald Trump these angry outstaters might become a little less outraged. I know that the Trumpers in the break room at my daughter’s large workplace are starting to think that Kamala will win. They are not happy about it, but some reality is starting to set in.They know their guy is in trouble. This break room conversation took place right before they heard Tim Walz was added as the VP. A guy who is a Kamala supporter informed them that Tim was was just selected and that he was pumped about it. Then a big argument took place and my 21 year daughter thoroughly enjoyed the show. She views the Trumpers as entertainment. She’s so pumped up about the election. I love it. |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 7, 2024 1:49:36 GMT
The more I am hearing/learning about him the more I like him.
I like that as a Football coach he started the gay/straight alliance at his school.
I love the free lunch program.
I like his sense of humor.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 7, 2024 1:57:51 GMT
I was a Republican until our 38 count convicted former president came along. Don’t get me wrong, I like Governor Walz but I was very disappointed with our last legislative session. Any social cause had money thrown at it. I don’t think that every child in MN should get free breakfast and lunch. Every family here gets a $1700/per child tax credit with no cap. One of my friends has been looking for a house to rent. She is in law enforcement. A potential landlord told her that he would prefer to rent to someone on section 8 because he could get $4500 a month from them. $4500 a month from someone who gets government assistance when someone else with a job can’t afford that. After MN spent the surplus, real estate taxes increased significantly, taxes and fees on just about everything else went up. I appreciate how progressive MN is but the spending under the Democratic leadership is bleeding us dry. What is your explanation for why we had a surplus in the first place? |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 7, 2024 2:01:37 GMT
I was a Republican until our 38 count convicted former president came along. Don’t get me wrong, I like Governor Walz but I was very disappointed with our last legislative session. Any social cause had money thrown at it. I don’t think that every child in MN should get free breakfast and lunch. Every family here gets a $1700/per child tax credit with no cap. One of my friends has been looking for a house to rent. She is in law enforcement. A potential landlord told her that he would prefer to rent to someone on section 8 because he could get $4500 a month from them. $4500 a month from someone who gets government assistance when someone else with a job can’t afford that. After MN spent the surplus, real estate taxes increased significantly, taxes and fees on just about everything else went up. I appreciate how progressive MN is but the spending under the Democratic leadership is bleeding us dry. Thank you for explaining it much better than me! I get the excitement of walz. I do. He’s the normal dad candidate, compared to the rest. Someone new. BUT mn has its big problems that are now going f to get dragged thru the national media I think every state probably has similar issues unless absolutely everyone votes one way or the other. Dex is just stating the typical Republican talking points/complaints. Giving kids free lunch is bad and unnecessary but no concerns whatsoever with cutting taxes for the rich and corporations. SSDD. With that being said, how do our Minnesota republicans feel about Royce White?? |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 7, 2024 2:10:01 GMT
So, my grandkids who go to school in one of the richest school districts in the state get free lunch and breakfast even though their parents can afford to pay. I think it should be free to ALL CHILDREN who NEED it. I am sorry but I can’t support spending money on parts of a program where it is not needed. Spend that money on lower class size, increased para’s in classrooms or school upkeep. Minnesota has codified legal abortion. We are the only state between WI, IA, ND,SD where a woman can get a safe abortion. There is no forced birth. Parents aren't always willing to apply. That is why free lunches and breakfast for all is important. I don't think people that don't qualify abuse it. Those kids usually have beautiful packed lunches with grapes cut in half, an assortment of meats and cheeses, etc. I work in a school and there are clearly families who would qualify who don't apply for a myriad of reasons. I have bought many lunches over the years to supplement kids who had just two slices of bread in their lunch boxes. Every child should have access to free food, even if they don't need it. I would rather feed the children of 10 well to do families then have one child go hungry. I agree. I also see it as a way to help middle class families who wouldn’t qualify to have some help. We don’t “need” the free lunches but I will say that it definitely helped our budget a little bit and that was money that we could spend elsewhere. You know, to help the economy and to relieve the burden of the higher expenses that people like to complain about. I think it’s gross that people choose this as their issue to gripe about yet don’t say anything about all of the other ways people are helped by the government—like low taxes for the rich and corporations, farm and corporate bailouts and subsidies, bankruptcies, and so on. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 7, 2024 2:11:59 GMT
Parents aren't always willing to apply. That is why free lunches and breakfast for all is important. I don't think people that don't qualify abuse it. Those kids usually have beautiful packed lunches with grapes cut in half, an assortment of meats and cheeses, etc. I work in a school and there are clearly families who would qualify who don't apply for a myriad of reasons. I have bought many lunches over the years to supplement kids who had just two slices of bread in their lunch boxes. Every child should have access to free food, even if they don't need it. I would rather feed the children of 10 well to do families then have one child go hungry. I agree. I also see it as a way to help middle class families who wouldn’t qualify to have some help. We don’t “need” the free lunches but I will say that it definitely helped our budget a little bit and that was money that we could spend elsewhere. You know, to help the economy and to relieve the burden of the higher expenses that people like to complain about. I think it’s gross that people choose this as their issue to gripe about yet don’t say anything about all of the other ways people are helped by the government—like low taxes for the rich and corporations, farm and corporate bailouts and subsidies, bankruptcies, and so on. Families with an undocumented member are also often unwilling to apply to avoid drawing any scrutiny. Regardless of what you may think of the immigration status of the adults, innocent children shouldn't be going hungry in the richest country in the world. What I dislike most about the school lunch debate is that it's another one of those that attempt to pit the middle class against the poor, making middle class tax payers think that the poor are the reason they're struggling. All to distract us from the fact that the uber-wealthy and corporations are getting away with paying little/nothing in taxes and also paying their workers so little that they qualify for assistance (like free school lunches). The poor are not the reason you feel overtaxed, Betsy. You need to look up for that. |
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Post by ellen on Aug 7, 2024 2:18:07 GMT
Parents aren't always willing to apply. That is why free lunches and breakfast for all is important. I don't think people that don't qualify abuse it. Those kids usually have beautiful packed lunches with grapes cut in half, an assortment of meats and cheeses, etc. I work in a school and there are clearly families who would qualify who don't apply for a myriad of reasons. I have bought many lunches over the years to supplement kids who had just two slices of bread in their lunch boxes. Every child should have access to free food, even if they don't need it. I would rather feed the children of 10 well to do families then have one child go hungry. I agree. I also see it as a way to help middle class families who wouldn’t qualify to have some help. We don’t “need” the free lunches but I will say that it definitely helped our budget a little bit and that was money that we could spend elsewhere. You know, to help the economy and to relieve the burden of the higher expenses that people like to complain about. I think it’s gross that people choose this as their issue to gripe about yet don’t say anything about all of the other ways people are helped by the government—like low taxes for the rich and corporations, farm and corporate bailouts and subsidies, bankruptcies, and so on. My brother has two kids in school and he said that his family saves at least $200 a month by not having to pay for school lunches. I sub at a couple different elementary schools and you have to turn in a lunch count when you take attendance. Almost all of the kids eat lunch at school. Very few bring their own. This is a break for working families. I hope to see free meals at school across the country if they win. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 7, 2024 2:28:55 GMT
Obviously you haven't been to either state recently. Our roads and bridges are just fine thank you very much.  Oh, I have been to both states often, recently. And MN's roads and bridges are much much better. Have you been to MN lately? It's nothing against those states. It's just that's what MN has spent money on. and the Dakotas not so much. Iowa as well. Even before all of the flooding my stepbrother (who works for the road dept) was saying how many of the bridges in their area is the state are well beyond needing repair. But most of the citizens don’t know that and think they are just fine. |
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Post by edie3 on Aug 7, 2024 3:21:17 GMT
monitoring a school lunchroom for 20 years As a daughter of 2 school teachers, I could not love him more for that! |
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