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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 15:47:16 GMT
I love a good pea WWYD. And my day is slow today. So here goes...
You all know my work situation. Basically my coworker does not like to work, when she does work, she is incompetent, and lastly she can be extremely bossy and rude to me too (which I have been speaking up about, every single time and she's not liking much). I am still looking for another job, but I'm staying here until I find my way out. I have entered into the humor phase of working with my coworker and boss and now I'm in a situation where it's looking like she is going to drop the ball.
There is an annual project that is due by August 1. I submitted for my program offices, she insisted on submitting for hers. (I've done the entire thing the past two years on my own. But she insisted.)
We've received a joint email from those reviewing, they are questioning whether some projects they expected to be submitted haven't been. Are they not needed, if they are, enter them, etc. I reviewed the list, reached out to one of my offices, got confirmation, and submitted the project. I also did one for our central administration and she handles the budget for central admin so technically her responsibility but I did it because I knew the person in charge of the project. The rest are for her offices. The reviewers said their deadline was COB Wednesday, so tomorrow.
After I put those projects in, I drafted an email thinking I would respond that I had submitted that one extra of mine + the central admin one (they can see them in the system if they look) and cc our boss. Basically poking her to step up and get it done. That I had done my part. I don't know if she saw the initial email and neither of our bosses was on it. Sending the email feels like the right thing to do.
However, I met with that counselor in regard to my job for a long time and she advised that I should not feel responsible for ensuring she does her job and does it right. In addition, my boss told me straight up that I don't need to feel obligated to handle her workload either. With that said, he's been really struggling with the idea that I am not involved in everything going on in our office anymore. He was used to coming to me for answers to his questions and is having a hard time adjusting to not having me to rely on all the time. But I'm not feeling like it's my responsibility anymore to make him look competent either. I did the part I was responsible for.
So, send the email right now? Tomorrow morning (to give her a full day)? Tomorrow afternoon when I log out at 3:30? Not at all? The line between right and wrong here feels super hazy.
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Post by peabay on Aug 13, 2024 15:50:43 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well.
Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 13, 2024 15:53:31 GMT
From what you've described I wouldn't send it at all. She needs to succeed or fail on her own.
ETA: I didn't follow that at first this email you want to send is in reply to the one sent to the both of you. That changes my answer. Yes, I would reply stating what you have done and that your part is complete.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 15:53:59 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. |
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Post by malibou on Aug 13, 2024 15:54:28 GMT
I'd send it now so that they know their request was seen and taken care of. Your co-worker will do whatever she is going, or not going to do and that has no bearing on you. Kind of like the not my circus, not my monkeys saying.
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Post by katlady on Aug 13, 2024 15:56:04 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. My initial thought was “no email”, but if he sent out an inquiry asking about project status, I would respond just for the ones I am responsible for. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Aug 13, 2024 15:57:47 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. If your boss inquired, I think you should respond to him today and then be done with it. How/if he chooses to follow up is on him. |
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 13, 2024 15:58:26 GMT
What about an email to your boss saying something to the effect of "well, I did my part and you'll have to ask her about her part"? That way you throw the ball in her court and move on to YOUR work.
Maybe list your projects and let him know that anything not on the list is her responsibility.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 15:59:59 GMT
I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. If your boss inquired, I think you should respond to him today and then be done with it. How/if he chooses to follow up is on him. It wasn't my boss. It was the agency reviewing the projects. My boss was not included in the email at all. So he has no clue they've inquired about any of this. |
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Post by 3boysnme on Aug 13, 2024 16:00:04 GMT
If she doesn't respond with her missing projects, is that going to hinder your process on your work at all? If yes, then send email, include your bosses and call her out saying that the projects she is responsible for need to be sent in ASAP.
If not, then don't send. If you do because of your conscience, then that's okay too.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Aug 13, 2024 16:01:10 GMT
I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. In that case respond with only what you have submitted and let the rest of the chips fall where they may. He allowed this to go on with her for far too long and if he's having a hard time with the new way them's tough titties. ETA: Just saw that it wasn't your boss who sent the message. In that case I would respond but only with your own information. She's a grown up, let her be one and don't try to remind her. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 13, 2024 16:01:45 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. Send the email to the boss but not her. You are not her nanny or time manager. She is a big girl and needs to figure it out. But a quick CYA to the heads, definitely. That paper trail may come in handy. |
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Post by 3boysnme on Aug 13, 2024 16:02:25 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. Okay, just respond that you had a couple of projects that you've submitted. She can respond on her own. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Aug 13, 2024 16:02:26 GMT
If your boss inquired, I think you should respond to him today and then be done with it. How/if he chooses to follow up is on him. It wasn't my boss. It was the agency reviewing the projects. My boss was not included in the email at all. So he has no clue they've inquired about any of this. Then I would respond the same way to the agency reviewing the projects and cc (or bcc) your boss and THEN be done with it. Again, how he chooses to follow up is on him. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 13, 2024 16:02:55 GMT
I selected don't send a group email btw.
Just email your boss or bosses. And then be done with it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 16:03:44 GMT
If she doesn't respond with her missing projects, is that going to hinder your process on your work at all? It won't affect my offices at all. It'll only affect hers. It literally isn't my circus. But my boss has no idea. I was going to cc him in my response so at least he knew. |
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Post by quiltz on Aug 13, 2024 16:07:15 GMT
But I'm not feeling like it's my responsibility anymore to make him look competent either. I did the part I was responsible for. So, you did your part. You did your job. Don't send the email. |
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Post by peabay on Aug 13, 2024 16:11:08 GMT
I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. If your boss inquired, I think you should respond to him today and then be done with it. How/if he chooses to follow up is on him. I agree - I somehow missed that. Answer your boss with what you've done and that's that. |
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Post by tmarschall on Aug 13, 2024 16:13:20 GMT
I think I'd respond to the agency stating which ones you were responsible for and that they had been completed at 2:45pm or whatever. Nothing about her, the rest, etc. And I'd cc your supervisor.
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Post by 3boysnme on Aug 13, 2024 16:15:16 GMT
If she doesn't respond with her missing projects, is that going to hinder your process on your work at all? It won't affect my offices at all. It'll only affect hers. It literally isn't my circus. But my boss has no idea. I was going to cc him in my response so at least he knew. Sorry, have not read any responses past this one yet. What it sounds like to me is you would be doing your boss's job? I'd just respond to him only, and let him know you have done your part. That's it. It's his job to make sure she responds back as well. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 16:15:26 GMT
I think I'd respond to the agency stating which ones you were responsible for and that they had been completed at 2:45pm or whatever. Nothing about her, the rest, etc. And I'd cc your supervisor. This feels like it's probably the best response so far. Just take her off the reply/response to the reviewers altogether and add him. |
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 13, 2024 16:19:29 GMT
I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way.  Don't wait, just reply that you have taken care of your end. Given the history with your co-worker I would include your boss on the email. |
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Post by quinlove on Aug 13, 2024 16:24:39 GMT
I think I'd respond to the agency stating which ones you were responsible for and that they had been completed at 2:45pm or whatever. Nothing about her, the rest, etc. And I'd cc your supervisor. Yep, this. Just get to the point. Short and precise. |
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Post by gina on Aug 13, 2024 16:31:57 GMT
Send. You are responding to an email that was initially sent to you.
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Post by styxgirl on Aug 13, 2024 16:43:09 GMT
I submitted for my program offices, she insisted on submitting for hers. We've received a joint email from those reviewing, they are questioning whether some projects they expected to be submitted haven't been. Are they not needed, if they are, enter them, etc. However, I met with that counselor in regard to my job for a long time and she advised that I should not feel responsible for ensuring she does her job and does it right. In addition, my boss told me straight up that I don't need to feel obligated to handle her workload either. I did the part I was responsible for. I chose "OTHER" (I quoted the parts that stuck out to me from your OP. I hope it looks legible when I post this! LOL It's a jumbled mess right now! hahaha) So, you have done your part and it is important for you to CYA and make sure those waiting on the project know your part is done and that she has once again dropped the ball. I'm the passive aggressive sort that would send an "UPDATE EMAIL" to all stakeholders, bosses and interested parties including co-worker. I would break down the parts of the project by responsibility and say: "I've completed my sections of ABC, let me know if you have questions on any of these items. Please forward questions on the XYZ parts of the project to IMCOMPETENT COWORKER since she is handling these parts of the project. NOTE .... AFTER READING ALL THE REPLIES, MY NEW ANSWER IS THIS: I think I'd respond to the agency stating which ones you were responsible for and that they had been completed at 2:45pm or whatever. Nothing about her, the rest, etc. And I'd cc your supervisor. Best wishes!!! |
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 13, 2024 16:51:21 GMT
I think I'd respond to the agency stating which ones you were responsible for and that they had been completed at 2:45pm or whatever. Nothing about her, the rest, etc. And I'd cc your supervisor. This feels like it's probably the best response so far. Just take her off the reply/response to the reviewers altogether and add him. This was my suggestion as well. No need to include her in your email response as her work has nothing to do with yours. |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 13, 2024 16:51:57 GMT
I hope you take this as food for thought but I’m going to be rather blunt.
I've read all your post about work and haven’t said anything but frankly you are adding to the drama and part of me thinks you like it.
You need to stop doing your coworkers work. You were told early on in this disaster by your boss that you’re not responsible for her work yet you continue to ”help” her out.
Why on earth would you do this? If work does not get done and it’s not your responsibility then ignore it. The only time you should care that she doesn’t do her job is if you are asked by your boss to do it for her. Otherwise, you are sticking your nose in where it doesn’t belong.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 13, 2024 16:53:56 GMT
I don't think I'd send it at all. Would you normally send an email just to say "I did my job?" You did it and your boss should know what needs to be done and she should as well. Wow, this is all kinds of fucked up. Sheesh. I think because he reached out in an email to inquire, I feel like one of us should respond in some way. But he can see that you have submitted more, correct? If so, there is no need to email. If you receive a second email, then I would respond and tell them that you submitted 2 more and your group/departments/people are all set. However, you shouldnt have reached out to the one person of hers that you know. Staying in your lane means staying in your lane. Based on what youve said, I dont think that was in your lane. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 13, 2024 16:53:59 GMT
Why on earth would you do this? If work does not get done and it’s not your responsibility then ignore it. So he didn't lose money. There's a lot of money involved here. I also work in a capacity where I'm being judged as a unit. Every time something happens, I'm lumped in with this circus. I just want to do a good job. I bolded the above. I work in finance. If she drops the ball on this, there's a lot to lose. That's the position I'm in. |
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Post by 3boysnme on Aug 13, 2024 17:21:23 GMT
Why on earth would you do this? If work does not get done and it’s not your responsibility then ignore it. So he didn't lose money. There's a lot of money involved here. I also work in a capacity where I'm being judged as a unit. Every time something happens, I'm lumped in with this circus. I just want to do a good job. I bolded the above. I work in finance. If she drops the ball on this, there's a lot to lose. That's the position I'm in. You sent in your two additions to the department that requested it. That is all you need to do. You are not the CEO of your corporation. You did YOUR job. You did a good job because you looked at the list, spotted two (well one, and and extra one) that are under your prevue, and you submitted whatever it was you needed to submit. Your counselor will tell you that is ALL you need to do. The boss needs to do his job. If he wants to know if you had done yours, answer him and HIM ONLY. Yes, you did your job. Don't bring up anything else. If he doesn't also follow up with her, then that is all on HIM. Not you. Yes, they may lose a lot of money if she doesn't do her job. But that is not your problem. And you need to keep telling yourself that. This is not a company who has had their best interest in you and your mental health. They dropped the ball. You are currently looking for another job because of how they fucked it up. Stop doing their jobs. Just do yours. And let the chips fall where they may. It's not your problem. |
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Don't wait, just reply that you have taken care of your end. Given the history with your co-worker I would include your boss on the email.
