Georgia HS lock down poss. shooting

That campaign ad indicates that you should solve all of your problems with guns and violence. That is a big problem in our society. Not only do people have easy access to weapons, it is seemingly ok to use them when you feel that you have been wronged. We need to deal with both of those issues (and the many others that lead into violence).

Your missing the point.

I think you are missing my point.  Guns aren't the only issue.  We ALSO need to look at what is leading people to want to engage in these acts in the first place.  Phones have a bigger (and often more negative role) in the classroom on a daily basis than the likelihood of needing to be used during a school shooting.  And not allowing them may lead to less bullying, more social interaction, and therefore happier kids. 

There will still be distractions

There will still be behaviors.

There will still be bullying

My husband is a teacher and phones have never been an issue because of how he handles it. He treats his students with respect and in turn gets it back. He taught gang members. Ones who did bad things.

My point was that it was super easy for districts a ross the US to ban phones yet we can't do that for guns.

No legislation.

No paid behind the back

No cell phone pins on their suits

No thoughts and prayers about the phones.

A simple well no more phones.

The phones don't kill people. Yes fully aware of suicide due to bullying. But that phone can't be pointed at classmates and kill them.

The weapons do.

The guns

I til the guns are gone leave the phones alone and focus on the real issues.

Because bullying and behaviors and distractions were there before cell.phones and will be there after

Having been in an active shooter situation, I can say unequivocally that having my phone saved lives. The shooter took out our switchboard area and the operators very rightly fled before an overhead announcement could be made. I got an alert on my phone and stopped two colleagues from leaving our office and walking into the shooter on the way out. For about two hours, we were holed up in the office listening to pounding and thuds and raised voices and the only info we had came from our phones. How about instead of banning them, we ban the guns? And maybe supply kids with the tools they need to navigate the world, use social media safely and appropriately, manage their mental health and be kind to one other? Work on building coping skills and resilience. I agree that the problem is bigger than guns but the easy and most effective place to start is with access to guns. Talking about phones is a distraction. Mental health and guns need to be our focus.

I agree, but I also think that phones play a big part in mental health and bullying.  I see a lot of comments online from teachers saying how much of a detriment having phones in class is to the learning as well as bullying, and that teachers should be able to focus on teaching their class,  not focusing on phone usage.  Kids not paying attention to the classes, taking photos or videos of people during school hours, etc.  So, by supporting the decision to ban or limit the phones in schools, I am trying to also support teachers.  But, maybe it isn't as big of a deal as some are making it.  

I also am not saying that there shouldn't be stricter gun laws (I wish we could ban them altogether but that isn't happening).  I am just saying that there are reasons to keep them out of schools and that we can do both at the same time.  It doesn't have to be that we ignore one issue (especially if it is an easier one to tackle) until the bigger issue is solved. 

We need to address personal responsibility! In general I did not have to raise my voice with my DS, a look worked reasonably well, particularly when out and about.. Fair punishment is not bad. NO is an acceptable word to use with children. You are not entitled to every thing you want!!

That has become the answer from TFG and his adoring fans.
Thoughts and prayers do not stop bullets!

We need to stop the bullets before they are fired from guns that children should not have access to!

What a colossal douchebag.

All of this! 

And especially the part where the gun owner has to be held accountable criminally and civilly if someone gets ahold of their weapon because it was not secured correctly. 

We’ve (sadly) hashed through this before. You and I are a similar age and clearly we had different upbringings. I grew up with guns in my parents house (not secure and loaded.) My Uncles’ homes, my grandparents homes. My friends homes. We DID go shooting regularly (at a minimum 3X a year to sight in different weapons.)

I was a military brat, in the military and married to a guy in the military. Guns were everywhere.

My dad bought me my first gun at 16. My sister too. They also bought my son his first gun (about 8yrs old.) Before anyone goes batty… we didn’t get to keep our guns in our personal possession until we moved out. And.. for the record, the gifted to my son was fired from time to time for target practice while supervised. To this day, I have it in my safe. He’s an adult now, and he still doesn’t have possession of it- I don’t think he’s all that interested. It isn’t taboo, and it isn’t exciting.

I think my parents approach toward guns is a huge part of the problem. Not having them. Not teaching us how to use them. Not gifting them to us. My issue is 100% with having them not secured in their home (and many loaded) for the last 50 years. For the record…. None of us, my parents, siblings, extended family…. Not one person, has shot a person (other than in wartime situation.) We have also never encountered a firearm that managed to fire itself.

It’s heartbreaking that far too many families are dealing with these tragic shootings. And we just keep talking around and around and around the problem. Banning anything, regardless of what scary name it is given isn’t going to change this.

The guns aren’t the problem. The problem is hopelessness, despair, mental illness, emotional distress, violent culture, anger, fear, and a host of media and social media attention seeking behavior.

Guns and the proliferation of them are the problem.  Other wealthy countries have the same societal problems but not the gun violence.  The difference is the availability of guns and gun culture in the US. 

. Bold mine... If it is the family, nice way for his dad to talk about his tripping etc ..

So who was Colt's first bully??..??