Where are the Republicans?

That is a perspective I hadn't considered and I see your point.  I do think though for some age does need to be factored in even as difficult as it may be.  

Hey lady, fuck all the way off today. 

I have voted for republicans and democrats. I think it’s a good thing to have a mix of both. What irks me is the lack of acceptance from both sides. Most citizens are in capable of compromise. Sometimes you win sometimes they win. I remain open minded. This board is not.

Here and in many parts of our country are people with different opinions different from your own are labeled as garbage, deplorable. Leftist are labeled power hungry, incompetent. How in the world can we live in harmony? We can even have a civil debate without feeling attacked.

Where has respect for others opinion gone? How can anyone understand stand a persons opinion by degrading them personally? I’ve tried here and in real life to gain insight to why people feel a certain way only to be degraded. By both Republican and Democrats.

When people, of both parties , have chosen a candidate that best represent their beliefs. It’s childish to start calling each other names. Calling an opponents supporter names diminish their credibility.

We look like fools to the rest of the world. How can we understand another country’s position from their point of view when we can’t even have a civil discussion with each other? Just because you don’t agree with their position doesn’t give you the right to denigrate each other. It’s not one party who is to blame. Both parties are disgraceful and incapable of compromise.

I don’t usually complain and not offer a solution. My solution is let’s evoke term limits. No one should be in a position of influence for 50 years. Our current political parties are both guilty. You can’t convince me that someone who pulls in millions of dollars by being a politician understands what the majority of voters are experiencing. Privileged politicians are incapable of giving up power. They show very little empathy to anyone who has a different idea. They make laws and then exempt them selves.

I feel so aggravated that my fellow citizens are literally feel like killing themselves because of an outcome they didn’t identify with. Celebrities throw up their hands I’ll move out of the US if so and so wins. Really! Instead understanding someone else’s choice to go in a different direction, they stop their feet in a tantrum. Then we wonder why we are in the position we are in. News flash not everyone is going to share your opinion! We fought for the right to speak freely regardless of what or who you identify with.

People who have resources and access to media should be held to the highest standard. They have the ability to speak to the masses. Shouldn’t they speak respectfully? Never mind the fact that Kathy Griffen held a severed head that look like Trump. We as a nation should have come out in mass to call her out on that. However She did the right to do so, having the right to is one thing expressing death to someone is not. Both parties should have expressed that was too far. Democrat supporters said he needs to be taken out. Too bad the person who attempted to kill Trump wasn’t a better shot. Some of them hold high positions in the government.

They literally express that in their minds people should kill a candidate. Then we are shocked that someone would try to kill him. They admittedly said ok we need to “cool off” Only a few months later to call him a Natzi and degrade any supporter of his. I for one loved Michelle Obama said “when they go low we go high”. Why didn’t we follow her example?

I was rooting for Harris to win. I prayed that with her in the highest position in our country we would see a kinder gentler leader. Why didn’t she win? I for one thought she would. In talking to friends they expressed. Maybe voters would have been more inclined to vote for her if she had more time to prepare. Maybe If she would have admitted that the current administration could have made better policies for our economy. You know take responsibility. She’s not the only one who have gotten us in this position. But admitting things could be handled better, she would have become relatable. We all make mistakes.

What are we teaching our kids? When things don’t go your way move to another country? We had a school who offered kids Wednesday off to help them cope. Ok, I understand kids are affected. How about encouraging them to try to understand someone else’s opinion? Get evolved!

What gets me about the tariffs is this: conservatives generally oppose any increase to corporate *taxes* because they say corporations will simply raise consumer prices. Consumers will pay for those tax increases.

But the same people will turn around and insist that corporations will not pass the cost of *tariffs* on to consumers.

Make that make sense.

I feel the same way. We need to keep the power no matter what. really! how about not automatically endorsing a candidate that is in decline. How about you give a candidate an opportunity to form a platform? 3 or 4 months to prepare is ridiculous. 

What is going to stop him from doing anything he wants? If he has the house and the senate, there are NO guardrails.  MAGA will be assuming the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government.

Please enlighten me, who or what is going to stop him for anything?

That's the difference between me and you, I don't believe they are empty promises from him.

Nope. There is no normalizing what has become of the Republican party. Both sides are not the same.

Democrats are far from perfect, but a Republican vote in 2024 is a vote to restore straight, white, Christian America to its place as tyrant and bully atop the US socio-economic pyramid. A Republican vote in 2024 is a vote to discard any constitutional protection for people the right doesn't like. A Republican vote in 2024 is a vote to end the American experiment. And it's a vote to put a crazy man who doesn't understand tariffs in charge of our economy, expecting that in his ignorance he'll somehow improve things.

Stop telling the sane half of this country that we have to work harder to "understand the perspective" of people who support what current Republicans support. The GOP and its policy arm, The Heritage Foundation, have been quite clear about their plans for the rest of us. We'd be fools not to believe them. And anyone who is still trying to "both sides" our political system is the biggest fool of all.

Tariffs can be added by executive order. Trade Expansion Act of 1962.



I agree with this point. I did not agree with Harris's first time homeowner proposal. But I knew that was very unlikely to happen.

This is so infuriating to me. Why can’t we all get along and understand the other sides opinions? Because one side’s opinion is to take away my bodily autonomy. 50 years of voice, all the scotus nominees promised it was “settled law.” The republicans have proposed legislation to limit a woman’s ability to travel between states, and to access their health info from other states. And republicans act aggrieved that we can’t all have our opinion. You can have it but I don’t have to be happy about your opinion being legislated into law. It’s no longer debates about tax policy and road maintenance it’s literally about human rights. It’s about trans people being harassed in bathrooms and denied medical care. It’s about women bleeding out in hospital parking lots. It’s about a co victor felon being considered the superior candidate because he has a penis. It’s about the guy who literally staged a coup being re elected after he promised we’d never have to vote again. This isn’t just gas prices.

I’m not in your little book club so I don’t care what the Bible says about judging. I do wonder how those who claim to care what the Bible says(feed the hungry, take care of the widows and children, the parable of the Good Samaritan) can vote for a guy who so demonstrably has broken so many of the 10 commandments and espouses such anti Christian policies. Interesting which part of the Bible you call on here.

The best thing that happened for Trump was the pandemic. The economy was in a downward slide coming into the pandemic due to Trump's policies.

One quote that resonates with me is:

This is not our lesson to learn. 

You're about to learn a hard lesson in basic economics. Inflation WILL be going up and the price of goods and services WILL be staying high. Do you really think Trump has your best interests at heart? Elon Musk and RFK are going to be put in positions of power? I just don't see how you think that's a good idea. FFS very high ranking members of the military that once worked for him came out and said he's dangerous. I suppose because you're a white, christian woman you think you'll be fine, and maybe you will, but remember, you're not a man. You will never be respected by the Republican party because of what's in your pants. Period. Full stop.

You are right. Harris was a sacrificial lamb. She was set up to lose

I'm a pretty-left Democrat & I don't mind a difference of opinion with anyone (though whether the economy was better or not would just be facts & not an opinion, right?) regardless of their political affiliation. I'm also a follower of Jesus who has many close friends who are agnostic or atheist which is also a difference in opinion.

What I do mind, and very much, is a difference in morality and/or how your difference in opinion affects other people. 

If (almost) literally anyone else had been elected as the new Republican President-elect Tuesday night, I would have been disappointed. I would have been frustrated. I would have groused about it with my husband and close friends. I would have squared up my shoulders and prepared myself for the policies and laws that would change and/or go into effect that would probably negatively affect me & mine. That's it. There are plenty of Republican AND Democratic Presidents and other elected officials who are far from blameless. Most people, regardless of whether they're an elected official or not, are like that, and I generally give people the benefit of the doubt.

Trump (and Vance and the rest of that far-right contingent) is not that. 

I'm terrified of Project 2025 but even removing that from the argument as he certainly has not read it & technically has nothing to do with it, he has said he wants to end DEI programs and reverse Biden's extension of Title IX civil rights protections to transgender students. He has said he wants to eliminate the Department of Education. He believes climate change is a hoax and wants to focus on fossil fuels. He told voters that they wouldn't have to vote again in 4 years & that he would be a dictator "but only on Day One." All of that will happen against the recent Supreme Court ruling that Presidents have immunity from "official acts." 

Those are just all of the more official things that don't take into account all the horrible things he's said about and done to anyone different from him: women, BIPOC, the disabled, immigrants, the poor, etc. 

Voting for him is a difference in morality, and that's not something I can quietly accept. Voting for him is sacrificing other people's happiness & quality of life for potentially, but not likely, lower taxes and cheaper groceries. I would be happy to pay (and always have) more money for milk & eggs if it means other people get milk and eggs to begin with.

That's the difference this time.

When we bought our house we got a first time homebuyer credit.  Harris's was much more than what we got, but it's not impossible.