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Post by cindytred on Nov 7, 2024 19:18:26 GMT
I am disappointed that only a few Republicans answered my question from my OP. And I a disappointed - but not surprised that this thread became another political debate just like all the others. I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion. I am going back into my little corner now and won't be speaking up anymore.
Cindy
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Post by Laurie on Nov 7, 2024 19:18:31 GMT
oh, excuse me... I didn't know which of the endless, pointless, cruel, costly repeal attempts we were talking about. The skinny repeal would have got rid of the individual mandate to either have health insurance or pay a penalty. I agreed with that and stood behind that part. Of course the Republicans had to use it as an opportunity to defund Planned Parenthood so it didn't pass. The whole clinging onto changing abortion is always going to be their downfall.
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Post by nightnurse on Nov 7, 2024 19:18:43 GMT
Again, very telling which posts you choose to respond to and which you don’t. You didn’t respond to my other one where I asked why we all have to get along while our rights are taken away, you responded to the one where you got to tell me not to be rude. Which is more rude, asking me to get along with my oppressor or dismissing your religion? I’m sorry you felt was choosing to ignore your comment. I was responding to your most current comment. Why do we need to get along while our right are being taken away is a valid comment. I feel that it’s important to hear and understand why people feel the way they do. If I’m not understanding your point. You are clearly feeling like you are forced to accept oppression. Shame on anyone who would endorse that behavior. I read a really good quote a long time ago. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. we should never ever allow anyone to think for one minute that that action is acceptable. While right do you feel you have lost? Is it abortion? As I understand it it’s up to each state to determine that right. My state made sure that our right was not taken from us. I was verbal that it should be a woman’s right to choose. Our state heard our plea. Should the threaten to limit insurance coverage I will once again make my voice heard. You too should align yourself with others that are willing to put words in to action. There will be a national abortion ban. But the bs “the right wasn’t taken away it went back to the states” Is exactly that, bs. Rights are things that guaranteed on the federal level. They aren’t something your neighbors can vote to take away. It minimizes this real threat to women’s safety when we say it’s ok it went to the states. Florida voted 57% in favor of abortion rights but it didn’t reach the 60% threshold so they still lost. I did align myself with those putting thoughts into actions, and I voted decidedly in favor of giving more rights to women than to corpses. And then you told me I should just try to get along and it’s just a difference of opinion.
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Post by Laurie on Nov 7, 2024 19:22:21 GMT
No I think both parties need to figure out how to get better candidates out in front of us and not accept the lesser than two evils that we have had in front of us. There are plenty of other viable candidates out there that are not old, white men. It is time to break that mold. As an aside, generally speaking when using the phrase lesser of two evils I don't know that I can put Joe Biden in that category. I honestly don't think Joe Biden is an evil person. There were things I did not agree with on him but his character was as good as one could expect from a politician. Just remember he faithfully goes to mass every Sunday. I believe he has only missed a handful of times. I agree He is a very honorable man and I have supported him. When cognitive decline came into play it angered me that the Democratic Party chose to hide his condition. They choose support his reelection. It was clear to many people that he in decline yet they didn’t address it. I’m furious that he was disrespected and treated like the way he was. That’s on the Democrats. They took a very fine man and humiliated him publicly. Maybe if they would have provided a candidate that had the time to develop a platform we wouldn’t be in the situation. I think you could argue that the media could be blamed more than the Democratic Party. I think they covered it up a bit and then when they couldn't these high profile donors started seeing what was going on and pushed for him to be replaced as a nominee. I agree he was treated horribly. Probably a bit irrational but I blame George Clooney for how Biden got treated at the end.
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Post by Laurie on Nov 7, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
I am disappointed that only a few Republicans answered my question from my OP. And I a disappointed - but not surprised that this thread became another political debate just like all the others. I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion. I am going back into my little corner now and won't be speaking up anymore. Cindy I think other than 1 outlier all of the Democrats have been very civil in this thread. This is the type of discussion that I miss. ETA: I am sorry Cindy if my questions have derailed your thread.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2024 19:24:18 GMT
You honestly think he is going to get that through? If a candidate says that they are going to completely eliminate federal income tax I am not going to believe that either. Candidates on both sides have empty promises. Besides I never said I voted for him so assuming that I went and had cast a vote for him because I didn't think he would do it is incorrect. What is going to stop him from doing anything he wants? If he has the house and the senate, there are NO guardrails. MAGA will be assuming the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government.Please enlighten me, who or what is going to stop him for anything? That's the difference between me and you, I don't believe they are empty promises from him. The red bolded part. PLEASE, someone explain how he won't be able to do whatever the heck he wants to. I am being 100% serious. There is pretty much nothing to stop him (unless somehow some republicans dare to vote against his wishes) for at least the next 2 years. I am not being argumentative, I promise. But I think that anyone who doesn't realize what is very likely to happen just is burying their head in the sand. I also would like to remind people that a LOT of us vote due to the difference in views on the most fundamental of social issues. I feel like there are many people who are like "if this doesn't touch our lives, it really isn't a concern" thing. I want everyone in this country treated equally, or as close to that as we can get. That will not happen under the upcoming administration.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2024 19:27:54 GMT
Donald Trump won the Presidential election by being voted into office by American citizens. I've been a happy member of this board since 1998 and I find the Dems to be outspoken enough that it "looks like" everyone on this board votes for the Democrat candidate - but I find this hard to believe. I know this board is very diverse (e.i., education, location {rural, city dwellers, countries}, and age). Yet no one is celebrating Trumps victory. 1. Is it because Republicans are more reserved? 2. Are they afraid to be ostracized in this community? It is reason number 2 for me. I am a proud Republican and I am happy with last nights election results. In my opinion our economy was better during Trump's first term. COVID happened - but that was beyond anyone's control. When a Dem gets elected into office, I feel sick to my stomach at first - but I accept it and it's not the end of the world. It is a pendulum and it will always swing back and forth and I think that is a good thing. Okay Republicans - speak up! Keep it kind. Be open-minded. I hope this isn't the end of my relationship with the Peas - but if it is I'll live. I don't post here often - I'm mostly a lurker. I don't know how to flag this post as POLITICAL. Cindy I apologize if I'm confusing you with a different pea, but weren't you diagnosed with cancer in the last year or so? If that's you, do you even realize that you now have a "pre-existing condition". Good luck with that when it comes time use your health insurance. I think the pea's name you're thinking of is CindyShosh or something very similar to that. ETA: I cannot find her account, or one with a similar name, including spelling Cindy with an I at the end. Does anyone recall who we're thinking of. And if so, how she is doing? I hope all is well!The OP has been quite "in your face" about her political stance in the past....in my opinion.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 7, 2024 19:32:56 GMT
I know you stated your intention but I do know that you probably hoped to stir the pot, which you managed to do. Until "he who shall not be named" got into this, I voted on both sides. I have voted for a GOP governor for MD because he was a great guy. I would have voted for him for Senate if he had run as an Independent. I was Indy until the 2016 election.
The difference is (and don't get mad for me saying this because it is a known fact) that GOP are generally uneducated without college degrees. They don't want to read reputable sites. They are not willing to listen to both sides of a discussion and make an educated and informed decision. Not based on party but based on facts. They can only see how their lives are affected (and since many of them live paycheck to paycheck it makes sense). They cannot see past their own problems and cannot see how certain programs will benefit EVERYONE. Honestly a lot of the GOP are only in it for themselves, how they can make more and more money. For some reason, they cannot seem to remember things from a year ago, let alone 4 or 8. Are there Dems like this, sure. There are always outliers. But Dems generally aren't out for violence. Look at all these neonazi groups out there. They are all GOP. They cannot see the other side of any issue. If you ask them to give you some hard and accurate facts, they can't. Anything they don't agree with is a lie. They don't understand that there are 3 sides to every story in politics, the GOP, the Dems and the TRUTH!
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 7, 2024 19:35:07 GMT
It’s mind boggling that not only was this a question but that you had to respond. Why on earth don’t people listen to his words? The lack of critical thinking is just astounding. But hey lets dismantle the public education system, that will help. Can you just imagine the lack of education American kids will get compared to Japan, China, Taiwan and Korea? The Japanese gov’t cares about their kids. If you have seen kids making lunch, sweeping the school, cleaning the toilets etc that’s all true. American’s can’t compete with that. America’s big advantages are English and Medicine.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Nov 7, 2024 19:37:07 GMT
I am disappointed that only a few Republicans answered my question from my OP. And I a disappointed - but not surprised that this thread became another political debate just like all the others. I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion. I am going back into my little corner now and won't be speaking up anymore. Cindy I think other than 1 outlier all of the Democrats have been very civil in this thread. This is the type of discussion that I miss. ETA: I am sorry Cindy if my questions have derailed your thread. I miss this type of discussion too, but you are the only one (I can't even remember though, I think you didn't vote for Trump either) who has discussed. I've tried to (as a long time Republican) but again, I wasn't a Trump voter either. None of the Trump voters want to discuss anything. I don't know what Cindy was looking for and what she is lamenting here that she didn't get.
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Post by lainey on Nov 7, 2024 19:38:19 GMT
I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion I wasn't aware we needed permission to speak.
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Post by huskergal on Nov 7, 2024 19:44:14 GMT
I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion I wasn't aware we needed permission to speak. Once you ask it, it is open to anyone. The Republicans are responsible for Trump. They made his their candidate. They had several people running and they picked him. You get the ownership.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 7, 2024 19:45:32 GMT
I apologize if I'm confusing you with a different pea, but weren't you diagnosed with cancer in the last year or so? If that's you, do you even realize that you now have a "pre-existing condition". Good luck with that when it comes time use your health insurance. I think the pea's name you're thinking of is CindyShosh or something very similar to that. ETA: I cannot find her account, or one with a similar name, including spelling Cindy with an I at the end. Does anyone recall who we're thinking of. And if so, how she is doing? I hope all is well!The OP has been quite "in your face" about her political stance in the past....in my opinion. I just looked and cindytred is the correct pea. In Dec 2022 she posted this "I had a PET scan today after 5 chemo treatments to check on my Stage IV Colon Cancer that spread to my liver." Talk about voting against your own best interest. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/135806/cancer-update
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Post by gar on Nov 7, 2024 19:48:26 GMT
I am disappointed that only a few Republicans answered my question from my OP. And I a disappointed - but not surprised that this thread became another political debate just like all the others. I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion. I am going back into my little corner now and won't be speaking up anymore. Cindy 🎵 🎻 My heart bleeds for you.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2024 19:51:57 GMT
I think the pea's name you're thinking of is CindyShosh or something very similar to that. ETA: I cannot find her account, or one with a similar name, including spelling Cindy with an I at the end. Does anyone recall who we're thinking of. And if so, how she is doing? I hope all is well!The OP has been quite "in your face" about her political stance in the past....in my opinion. I just looked and cindytred is the correct pea. In Dec 2022 she posted this "I had a PET scan today after 5 chemo treatments to check on my Stage IV Colon Cancer that spread to my liver." Talk about voting against your own best interest. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/135806/cancer-updateWhoa, my jaw literally dropped. OP, I genuinely hope that you are doing well physically, and that you have great/stable medical insurance that won't be affected by any changes the upcoming administration may make.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 7, 2024 20:03:01 GMT
oh, excuse me... I didn't know which of the endless, pointless, cruel, costly ACA-repeal attempts we were talking about. Two weeks.. Two weeks....... Two weeks.... How many times he would have it in two weeks...??
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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2024 20:13:50 GMT
I am disappointed that only a few Republicans answered my question from my OP. And I a disappointed - but not surprised that this thread became another political debate just like all the others. I didn't ask any Dems for their opinion. I am going back into my little corner now and won't be speaking up anymore. Cindy I think other than 1 outlier all of the Democrats have been very civil in this thread. This is the type of discussion that I miss. ETA: I am sorry Cindy if my questions have derailed your thread. And even that pea is being more measured in her responses than she has been in the past. I will admit that my post probably comes across more snarky than I meant it but I was having a hard time expressing my disbelief of the dissonance of the statement I quoted without sounding snarky. I rewrote the post 3 times and I still think I failed at expressing what I wanted to say without the possibility of being taken in a tone I didn’t really mean.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 7, 2024 20:15:26 GMT
I know you stated your intention but I do know that you probably hoped to stir the pot, which you managed to do. Until "he who shall not be named" got into this, I voted on both sides. I have voted for a GOP governor for MD because he was a great guy. I would have voted for him for Senate if he had run as an Independent. I was Indy until the 2016 election. The difference is (and don't get mad for me saying this because it is a known fact) that GOP are generally uneducated without college degrees. They don't want to read reputable sites. They are not willing to listen to both sides of a discussion and make an educated and informed decision. Not based on party but based on facts. They can only see how their lives are affected (and since many of them live paycheck to paycheck it makes sense). They cannot see past their own problems and cannot see how certain programs will benefit EVERYONE. Honestly a lot of the GOP are only in it for themselves, how they can make more and more money. For some reason, they cannot seem to remember things from a year ago, let alone 4 or 8. Are there Dems like this, sure. There are always outliers. But Dems generally aren't out for violence. Look at all these neonazi groups out there. They are all GOP. They cannot see the other side of any issue. If you ask them to give you some hard and accurate facts, they can't. Anything they don't agree with is a lie. They don't understand that there are 3 sides to every story in politics, the GOP, the Dems and the TRUTH! This is what I posted the other day.. Maga is not interested in education for the masses, meaning us. They prefer the uneducated, easier to manipulate. Some states, Arkansas for sure, have changed their child labor laws to allow kids to work many more hours in questionable circumstances. 14-15 year olds serving alcohol, working in meat packing plants which are both dangerous jobs. They will choose who will attend what schools and where. Think eastern Europe, kids, as well as China, chosen for specific careers as their abilities are screened. They have been doing that for years.. Curriculum taken from Bibles teaching their form christianity regardless of parental choices! Higher education will only be for the chosen. There will be no liberal arts or random learning. Toe the line will be the goal. Enjoy..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 7, 2024 20:19:09 GMT
But they are telling us what they ARE going to do... Flynn's goal is to remove the highly education persons working in government!!! Who does that leave..??..?? One step toward our future.... Priority to removed highly skilled experts!!! Longtime Donald Trump ally Michael Flynn laid out his vision for what a second Trump term should look like on Steve Bannon's "War Room" show on Wednesday — including dismantling the FBI and purging the civil service. “We have got to get rid of entire departments," said Flynn. "Places like the FBI.” He added that one of the top priorities should be removing "highly qualified experts" from the government.*** However, Trump does appear set to give powerful advisory roles to other conspiracy theorists, including tech billionaire Elon Musk, who ran much of Trump's voter outreach operation and pushed debunked voting machine theories, and vaccine denier Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has already vowed to pressure municipal governments to remove fluoride from tap water despite its well-documented public health necessity. www.rawstory.com/michael-flynn-fbi/
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Post by Lurkingpea on Nov 7, 2024 20:19:24 GMT
No I think both parties need to figure out how to get better candidates out in front of us and not accept the lesser than two evils that we have had in front of us. There are plenty of other viable candidates out there that are not old, white men. It is time to break that mold. As an aside, generally speaking when using the phrase lesser of two evils I don't know that I can put Joe Biden in that category. I honestly don't think Joe Biden is an evil person. There were things I did not agree with on him but his character was as good as one could expect from a politician. Just remember he faithfully goes to mass every Sunday. I believe he has only missed a handful of times. I agree He is a very honorable man and I have supported him. When cognitive decline came into play it angered me that the Democratic Party chose to hide his condition. They chose support his reelection. It was clear to many people that he was in decline yet they didn’t address it. I’m furious that he was disrespected and treated like the way he was. That’s on the Democrats. They took a very fine man and humiliated him publicly. Maybe if they would have provided a candidate that had the time to develop a platform we wouldn’t be in the situation. Do you feel the same way about the Republican party and Trump? Or do you not see his mental decline?
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 7, 2024 20:23:06 GMT
You probably won't respond and that's fine. But just wondering what appealed to you? Pulling out of NATO? Banning abortions? Deporting people who are here legally? Eliminating overtime pay? Tariffs? Tax cuts for the wealthy? I'm just wondering how this will improve the country. Nowhere did I say that I voted Trump or that he appealed to me. Well then this doesn't apply to you then. No one is attacking you.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 7, 2024 20:26:55 GMT
And even that pea is being more measured in her responses than she has been in the past. Thank you for noticing
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Post by Laurie on Nov 7, 2024 20:29:38 GMT
Nowhere did I say that I voted Trump or that he appealed to me. Well then this doesn't apply to you then. No one is attacking you. You quoted me and said that I probably wouldn't answer. So I answered.
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 7, 2024 20:37:43 GMT
Good point. Doesn’t display many Christian values that I recognise and many I do recognise as def not Christian. How about the fact that the Bible tells us not to judge anyone. You are free to choose the candidate that aligns best with you situation. Many chose Trump. This may be true, but you can’t tell me there isn’t a lot of judging going on with Christians and MAGA supporters…a lot! And in many cases a lot of passed judgement for things taken from lies and rhetoric IMO. I really hope that can change.
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 7, 2024 20:38:33 GMT
I have voted for republicans and democrats. I think it’s a good thing to have a mix of both. What irks me is the lack of acceptance from both sides. Most citizens are in capable of compromise. Sometimes you win sometimes they win. I remain open minded. This board is not. Here and in many parts of our country are people with different opinions different from your own are labeled as garbage, deplorable. Leftist are labeled power hungry, incompetent. How in the world can we live in harmony? We can even have a civil debate without feeling attacked. Where has respect for others opinion gone? How can anyone understand stand a persons opinion by degrading them personally? I’ve tried here and in real life to gain insight to why people feel a certain way only to be degraded. By both Republican and Democrats. When people, of both parties , have chosen a candidate that best represent their beliefs. It’s childish to start calling each other names. Calling an opponents supporter names diminish their credibility. We look like fools to the rest of the world. How can we understand another country’s position from their point of view when we can’t even have a civil discussion with each other? Just because you don’t agree with their position doesn’t give you the right to denigrate each other. It’s not one party who is to blame. Both parties are disgraceful and incapable of compromise. I don’t usually complain and not offer a solution. My solution is let’s evoke term limits. No one should be in a position of influence for 50 years. Our current political parties are both guilty. You can’t convince me that someone who pulls in millions of dollars by being a politician understands what the majority of voters are experiencing. Privileged politicians are incapable of giving up power. They show very little empathy to anyone who has a different idea. They make laws and then exempt them selves. I feel so aggravated that my fellow citizens are literally feel like killing themselves because of an outcome they didn’t identify with. Celebrities throw up their hands I’ll move out of the US if so and so wins. Really! Instead understanding someone else’s choice to go in a different direction, they stop their feet in a tantrum. Then we wonder why we are in the position we are in. News flash not everyone is going to share your opinion! We fought for the right to speak freely regardless of what or who you identify with. People who have resources and access to media should be held to the highest standard. They have the ability to speak to the masses. Shouldn’t they speak respectfully? Never mind the fact that Kathy Griffen held a severed head that look like Trump. We as a nation should have come out in mass to call her out on that. However She did the right to do so, having the right to is one thing expressing death to someone is not. Both parties should have expressed that was too far. Democrat supporters said he needs to be taken out. Too bad the person who attempted to kill Trump wasn’t a better shot. Some of them hold high positions in the government. They literally express that in their minds people should kill a candidate. Then we are shocked that someone would try to kill him. They admittedly said ok we need to “cool off” Only a few months later to call him a Natzi and degrade any supporter of his. I for one loved Michelle Obama said “when they go low we go high”. Why didn’t we follow her example? I was rooting for Harris to win. I prayed that with her in the highest position in our country we would see a kinder gentler leader. Why didn’t she win? I for one thought she would. In talking to friends they expressed. Maybe voters would have been more inclined to vote for her if she had more time to prepare. Maybe If she would have admitted that the current administration could have made better policies for our economy. You know take responsibility. She’s not the only one who have gotten us in this position. But admitting things could be handled better, she would have become relatable. We all make mistakes. What are we teaching our kids? When things don’t go your way move to another country? We had a school who offered kids Wednesday off to help them cope. Ok, I understand kids are affected. How about encouraging them to try to understand someone else’s opinion? Get evolved! I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Bolding one comment to answer for myself. I can't speak for everyone. I can agree to disagree. Bush Vs Gore, Obama Vs McCain, I could have discussed openly with differing opinions. I did not think less than for anyone who voted for either candidate. But things such as racism, misogyny and homophobia aren't agree to disagree issues for me. If a candidate is running on a platform filled with racism, misogyny and homophobia, I condemn it and call it what it is. There is no open dialogue with hate speech. And hell no I'm not leaving my country. I don't understand people saying they want to leave. Like stay and fight for change, damn it!
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 7, 2024 20:45:27 GMT
Well then this doesn't apply to you then. No one is attacking you. You quoted me and said that I probably wouldn't answer. So I answered. Well thanks for responding. But I didn't see the answer as to what you like about the fiscal beliefs of the Republican party. Maybe you did and it just got lost in the shuffle. This thread is moving fast. I'm not trying to pick a fight. Promise. I was curious what appealed.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2024 20:45:45 GMT
My favorite subreddit, if you’ve never visited. It’s already getting busy there. This morning it was a post about a manufacturer calling his workers in yesterday, telling them they won’t get Christmas bonuses this year because the company wants to stock up on materials before Trump’s tariffs kick in. Oops. The leopards are going to be eating well over the next four years.Absolutely. It’s one of my favourite subs as well - it highlights stupidity and lack of foresight so well. And the stories will keep on coming. 🤷♀️ I don't use reddit much so I'd have no idea how to get to this subreddit (I really should find a reddit for dummies site)...in the meantime, could someone please link it for me? Sounds like it might be some interesting reading. Thanks!
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Post by hopemax on Nov 7, 2024 20:47:24 GMT
Absolutely. It’s one of my favourite subs as well - it highlights stupidity and lack of foresight so well. And the stories will keep on coming. 🤷♀️ I don't use reddit much so I'd have no idea how to get to this subreddit (I really should find a reddit for dummies site)...in the meantime, could someone please link it for me? Sounds like it might be some interesting reading. Thanks! I think it's this one www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/
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Post by Lianna on Nov 7, 2024 20:57:52 GMT
I'm a lifelong Republican, but not a fan of Trump. I'm reserved, I've posted a few bi-partisan statement/threads and were attacked. No one wants to be open-minded or kind to those that don't feel the same way they do. I feel that the choices in this and all recent elections are so poor. I do fear for our country and grandkids future. One of my biggest concerns is the astonishingly high debt this nation is carrying. Someday, someway, somehow this has to be fixed. We can't continue to print money, promise this and than and not think about where it is coming from. Yes, my bottom line is what matters to me( Cost of groceries, gas, taxes,etc) however, it isn't all about ME, Who is going to pay back this debt that continues to accumulate. I feel that Republicans are marginally more fiscally responsible. That's my 2 cents. Thank you for starting this thread and acknowledging that there are still Republicans here. :-) Republicans add more to the national debt. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/
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Post by hopemax on Nov 7, 2024 21:04:42 GMT
I'm a lifelong Republican, but not a fan of Trump. I'm reserved, I've posted a few bi-partisan statement/threads and were attacked. No one wants to be open-minded or kind to those that don't feel the same way they do. I feel that the choices in this and all recent elections are so poor. I do fear for our country and grandkids future. One of my biggest concerns is the astonishingly high debt this nation is carrying. Someday, someway, somehow this has to be fixed. We can't continue to print money, promise this and than and not think about where it is coming from. Yes, my bottom line is what matters to me( Cost of groceries, gas, taxes,etc) however, it isn't all about ME, Who is going to pay back this debt that continues to accumulate. I feel that Republicans are marginally more fiscally responsible. That's my 2 cents. Thank you for starting this thread and acknowledging that there are still Republicans here. :-) Maybe the chart in this article will be of interest to you www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225FDR obviously is an outlier due to the triplets of the Great Depression, WWII and The New Deal. Wilson for WWI. Does it line up with how you feel?
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