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Post by saralovesducks on Sept 14, 2015 14:51:27 GMT
It is still there, it has 12 responses or so. All pretty good reads! Posts here are disappearing though, Jack was first on one of the last few pages, but has moved. Missed it! That's what happens when you do a quick peek because you *should* be studying LOL
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scrapinaqua
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Post by scrapinaqua on Sept 14, 2015 14:53:06 GMT
I signed up using a different name than my SC one because I don't want to get banned if they are reading here. I am a long time customer and I still have subs with them but I am out as soon as my commitments are up. The kits have become a joke from what they used to be. I still think their designs are some of the best in the industry but they aren't the only ones out there now and I've scouted out some other kit clubs to join. It's boggling how much more you can get from other clubs for the same price or lower.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 14, 2015 15:02:32 GMT
I just got off the phone with the Midwest regional ofc of FTC. The rep I spoke with said that the issue with duplicate shipping is a shipping error. If the company made a good-faith effort to resolve (e.g., providing free shipping for return), then the recipient should return the duplicate item(s). He did concede that recipients might possibly interpret this as unordered merchandise and keep the duplicate, but he cannot possibly predict what the company will do. He said that if additional charges are imposed the individual will have to resolve it with his/her credit card company.
He told me that the FTC does not resolve individual complaints and they do not act on behalf of individuals. Their agency will only take action against a company if there is a recognizable pattern (via consumer complaints) of deceptive practices. He also told me that the FTC does not interpret individual state laws, and his suggestion is to contact the state atty’s general office if further clarification is needed.
So…I called the Kentucky State Consumer Protection Agency (KY Atty Gen) and landed on someone’s voice mail. I left a message but I’m not holding my breath that I’ll get a call back (so much going on in Kentucky right now).
Anyway, that’s all I got. I just hope this is somehow helpful.
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Post by caribbeangirl on Sept 14, 2015 15:09:24 GMT
And it's locked! But you can win prizes starting today! Lol
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Post by mdith4him on Sept 14, 2015 15:13:46 GMT
At least it wasn't deleted. There's some good Q & As in there.
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Post by christyharris on Sept 14, 2015 15:17:25 GMT
And it's locked! But you can win prizes starting today! Lol Yeah, uh... Thanks but no thanks!
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Sept 14, 2015 15:19:22 GMT
It is still there, it has 12 responses or so. All pretty good reads! Posts here are disappearing though, Jack was first on one of the last few pages, but has moved. FYI~ there was a thread recently saying that sometimes posts on a thread could be on different pages depending on whether you're reading on a tablet, phone, or computer. I wonder if that's what happened to yours? I can't imagine the Fairy Podmother removing posts, certainly not without an explanation.
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Post by mdith4him on Sept 14, 2015 15:20:58 GMT
I just got off the phone with the Midwest regional ofc of FTC. The rep I spoke with said that the issue with duplicate shipping is a shipping error. If the company made a good-faith effort to resolve (e.g., providing free shipping for return), then the recipient should return the duplicate item(s). He did concede that recipients might possibly interpret this as unordered merchandise and keep the duplicate, but he cannot possibly predict what the company will do. He said that if additional charges are imposed the individual will have to resolve it with his/her credit card company. He told me that the FTC does not resolve individual complaints and they do not act on behalf of individuals. Their agency will only take action against a company if there is a recognizable pattern (via consumer complaints) of deceptive practices. He also told me that the FTC does not interpret individual state laws, and his suggestion is to contact the state atty’s general office if further clarification is needed. So…I called the Kentucky State Consumer Protection Agency (KY Atty Gen) and landed on someone’s voice mail. I left a message but I’m not holding my breath that I’ll get a call back (so much going on in Kentucky right now). Anyway, that’s all I got. I just hope this is somehow helpful.
Wow! Good info--thanks for calling. It sounds like people really do need to report in mass numbers before anything is done.
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Post by macaddict on Sept 14, 2015 15:21:14 GMT
Are they really telling you guys not to open the box? Hello, As your shipment comes in, you will notice that we accidentally sent your order twice. You should receive two identical boxes, and each of these have the same contents. Please set one of these aside as I have already reached out to UPS and arranged a pickup to help make this as simple as possible for you. At some point in the next two weeks, a representative from UPS will come back to your house to collect the unopened duplicate. For your convenience, they will attempt to collect the package three times. We have taken care of the shipping cost and UPS will provide the label for the return upon pickup. Thank you so much for your continued support and business. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. Have a great day, Savannah
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Post by abr79 on Sept 14, 2015 15:28:06 GMT
Peamac I bet members are deleting their own posts...after it was inferred that copying MB posts from SC was also against their TOU, I bet people freaked a little. Though, honestly, I can pin a photo to my Pinterest but I can't copy what I wrote? Weird. But whatever.
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Post by mdith4him on Sept 14, 2015 15:31:28 GMT
What if I type my message board responses HERE first, then copy from here and post it on SC?
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Sept 14, 2015 15:54:41 GMT
Peamac I bet members are deleting their own posts...after it was inferred that copying MB posts from SC was also against their TOU, I bet people freaked a little. Though, honestly, I can pin a photo to my Pinterest but I can't copy what I wrote? Weird. But whatever. That makes sense! (the deleting their own posts, not the can't copy what I wrote. You'd think that if I wrote it, I can decide where I want to post it.)
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Post by mom on Sept 14, 2015 16:04:57 GMT
So to be nice to the new girl, I messaged her and welcomed her to SC. I figured if she were a real person she would respond. Yeah, no response. Go figure. Question though - a couple months back (maybe 6? wasn't there another shitstorm and a 'new' girl came to handslap then as well. Does anyone else remember that? Co-winky-dink? I don't think so.
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Post by cynipidae17 on Sept 14, 2015 16:05:29 GMT
yeah, I was going to say members are deleting their own posts. They are probably worried that SC will kick them out for something posted over here which is completely ridiculous (or it better be this message board is not at all connected to SC).
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Post by abr79 on Sept 14, 2015 16:10:28 GMT
mom I looked at her profile, too, and was a little disconcerted by her location and how many years she's been married. I only have 1 kid but my hubs and I celebrate 14 yrs next week. And she's from my state. Could purely be a coincidence..and probably is...but my conspiracy theory spidey-sense got me a little freaked out.
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Post by aggiebonfire00 on Sept 14, 2015 16:13:36 GMT
So I'm guessing that I'm not eligible for the 12 month subscription giveaway even though I bought Typewriter?!?!?
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scrapinaqua
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Post by scrapinaqua on Sept 14, 2015 16:20:25 GMT
whoa, did you see this posted on the smack blog?? Seems like there is a disgruntled SC employee Anonymous Anonymous said... think the biggest scandal is about to happen. Want to know what I think it *really* is? People are going to open those duplicate boxes. You know, the ones with the vastly different shipping weights listed? And they are going to see they contain EXACTLY THE SAME QTY OF MERCHANDISE. Which will beg the question: Why are they saying things are heavier than they really are? Is it to soak more shipping money out of customers? Do not ask me how I know this. This situation stinks to high heaven big time. Please wait and see. I also HIGHLY ENCOURAGE all customers to weigh their boxes themselves. Care to ask how the same customer shipping list was somehow created twice with the different weights listed? Perhaps it had something to do with a new employee not being up to speed on how they pad their shipping fees to maximise profit. Oops, printed the wrong manifest with the "old" rates calculated. I can't say anything more. But not everybody is a happy worker bee over there. If you think they treat the customers badly, think of the packers and shippers in our warehouse. September 14, 2015 at 8:39 AM
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FreshPaper
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Post by FreshPaper on Sept 14, 2015 16:23:37 GMT
I am one of those people who got 2 shipment tracking number. My boxes are arriving tomorrow. I'm going to be honest here, I don't feel inclined to return the second box. Their return instruction is so vague and their customer service is so poor...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 16:26:55 GMT
I am one of those people who got 2 shipment tracking number. My boxes are arriving tomorrow. I'm going to be honest here, I don't feel inclined to return the second box. Their return instruction is so vague and their customer service is so poor... dont feel bad, if I were getting a duplicate box I'm not sure I'd return it either. I don't think for one second that they intend to correct the orders that were messed up because of this error. Let's see in a few weeks if I'm right. I didn't get a 2nd box thankfully so I'm not really in a position to have to decide!
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scrapinaqua
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Post by scrapinaqua on Sept 14, 2015 16:32:16 GMT
I wouldn't return it. You are under no legal obligation to. I went to the Federal Trade Commission website and looked it up and they said you don't have to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 16:33:02 GMT
Just want everyone to watch your accounts. I cancelled my PL sub and took the $15 fee, but it still shows active even though they've acknowledged my cancellation. When I cancelled my other kits it was instant but this is my last kit on the account so I think they might be stalking to catch me after the 24th.
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Post by mdith4him on Sept 14, 2015 16:33:39 GMT
Saw that on "the blog" this morning, too...could just be someone messing with everyone. But I asked the same type of thing a few pages back re: the weight differences. Those of you with two packages coming, weigh them and tell us what you find!
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Sept 14, 2015 16:35:41 GMT
whoa, did you see this posted on the smack blog?? Seems like there is a disgruntled SC employee Anonymous Anonymous said... think the biggest scandal is about to happen. Want to know what I think it *really* is? People are going to open those duplicate boxes. You know, the ones with the vastly different shipping weights listed? And they are going to see they contain EXACTLY THE SAME QTY OF MERCHANDISE. Which will beg the question: Why are they saying things are heavier than they really are? Is it to soak more shipping money out of customers? Do not ask me how I know this. This situation stinks to high heaven big time. Please wait and see. I also HIGHLY ENCOURAGE all customers to weigh their boxes themselves. Care to ask how the same customer shipping list was somehow created twice with the different weights listed? Perhaps it had something to do with a new employee not being up to speed on how they pad their shipping fees to maximise profit. Oops, printed the wrong manifest with the "old" rates calculated. I can't say anything more. But not everybody is a happy worker bee over there. If you think they treat the customers badly, think of the packers and shippers in our warehouse. September 14, 2015 at 8:39 AM Interesting! Thanks for sharing it here. New employees are not yet up to speed with the company culture
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Post by foucaultgirl on Sept 14, 2015 16:38:42 GMT
There's a cheerleader on the SC board replying to juliee thread about the lottery/contest. Wonder if it's someone in headquarters. I will say that I hope her enthusiasm is well-placed, and that SC does rethink some of their business practices because long-term customers are being alienated. That said, it seems like her post will also inadvertently solicit negative feedback about SC, too.
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scrapinaqua
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Post by scrapinaqua on Sept 14, 2015 16:39:25 GMT
from the ftc website: www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandiseHere are some questions and answers about dealing with unordered merchandise. Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered? A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift. Q. Must I notify the seller if I keep unordered merchandise without paying for it? A. You have no legal obligation to notify the seller. However, it is a good idea to write a letter to the company stating that you didn’t order the item and, therefore, you have a legal right to keep it for free. This may discourage the seller from sending you bills or dunning notices, or it may help clear up an honest error. Send your letter by certified mail. Keep the return receipt and a copy of the letter for your records. You may need it later. Q. What should I do if the unordered merchandise I received was the result of an honest shipping error? A. Write the seller and offer to return the merchandise, provided the seller pays for postage and handling. Give the seller a specific and reasonable amount of time (say 30 days) to pick up the merchandise or arrange to have it returned at no expense to you. Tell the seller that you reserve the right to keep the merchandise or dispose of it after the specified time has passed.
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Post by mom on Sept 14, 2015 16:48:16 GMT
OK so I just read what was copied from the smack blog. I have a question though:
Since the shipping cost is built in, why does it matter how much it weighs? They bundle it all together and you don't pay more for the 'extras' you buy right?
What am I 'not' getting? Can someone explain the big deal about this?
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Post by abr79 on Sept 14, 2015 16:50:02 GMT
Saw that on "the blog" this morning, too...could just be someone messing with everyone. But I asked the same type of thing a few pages back re: the weight differences. Those of you with two packages coming, weigh them and tell us what you find! My packages should be here anytime now. I will definitely be weighing (and taking photos) of the discrepancies. BEFORE I cut any tape. Either the poster on the blog IS just effing with people or they are a legit disgruntled SC employee and about to do some major whistle blowing. Either way, the weight discrepancies is kind of a big deal and cause for investigation. What weight were my shipping charges based on?? Verrrry interesting.
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Post by abr79 on Sept 14, 2015 16:53:15 GMT
OK so I just read what was copied from the smack blog. I have a question though: Since the shipping cost is built in, why does it matter how much it weighs? They bundle it all together and you don't pay more for the 'extras' you buy right? What am I 'not' getting? Can someone explain the big deal about this? I'm not a subscriber so my shipping charges were based on weight/size of package. Also, even if you are a subscriber, the shipping cost that's built in is only for the subscription package only. If you add on anything, you are charged additional based on what you're adding (exception is for the preview sale items, which they don't charge you for). The last month I subscribed (July), I added on a paper pad and the add-on pattern paper. I was charged an additional $3.00 for expedited shipping. It would have been closer to $10 if I chose the top tier shipping and only about $2.50 for bottom tier shipping.
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Post by mom on Sept 14, 2015 16:53:41 GMT
I wonder how long it would stay up on the SC board if someone repost the comment from the smack blog and asked them about it.
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Post by mom on Sept 14, 2015 16:54:11 GMT
OK so I just read what was copied from the smack blog. I have a question though: Since the shipping cost is built in, why does it matter how much it weighs? They bundle it all together and you don't pay more for the 'extras' you buy right? What am I 'not' getting? Can someone explain the big deal about this? I'm not a subscriber so my shipping charges were based on weight/size of package. Also, even if you are a subscriber, the shipping cost that's built in is only for the subscription package only. If you add on anything, you are charged additional based on what you're adding (exception is for the preview sale items, which they don't charge you for). The last month I subscribed (July), I added on a paper pad and the add-on pattern paper. I was charged an additional $3.00 for expedited shipping. It would have been closer to $10 if I chose the top tier shipping and only about $2.50 for bottom tier shipping. ahhh ok. I knew I had to be missing some of the information. Thanks for clarifying.
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