Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 17, 2014 15:29:21 GMT
Apparently a 777 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur went down near the Russia/Ukraine border with 280 on board. I'm looking for mainstream confirmation.
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Post by grinningcat on Jul 17, 2014 15:30:27 GMT
CBC is reporting it. Though they are saying 295 on board.
I heard something earlier this morning about a plane that the Ukrainians are claiming have been shot down by the Russians. Is this the same thing or a different plane? I just sat down at my desk for the first time today so I'm a little hazy on the latest headlines.
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Post by elaine on Jul 17, 2014 15:32:23 GMT
Oh no!
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Post by snappinsami on Jul 17, 2014 15:32:26 GMT
I just saw the update from CNN pop up on my phone.
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VicsterPEI
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Post by VicsterPEI on Jul 17, 2014 15:32:40 GMT
Oh no!
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 17, 2014 15:35:30 GMT
One report I read said the airspace over the area was closed after a military transport plane had been shot down?
ETA* 295 on board - 280 passengers, 15 crew.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jul 17, 2014 15:40:50 GMT
It is all over Sky news. Looks as if it might have been shot down.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 17, 2014 15:41:20 GMT
Wow - is this now turning into a Bermuda Triangle thing?
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Post by freebird on Jul 17, 2014 15:41:33 GMT
what the actual hell!!?
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Post by mztfied on Jul 17, 2014 15:46:55 GMT
Updates coming in on CNN. Lots of speculation.
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Post by cannes on Jul 17, 2014 15:53:19 GMT
Horrible.
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Post by Kelpea on Jul 17, 2014 15:53:55 GMT
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Post by DinCA on Jul 17, 2014 15:58:36 GMT
I cannot believe this is happening again! So horrible. Malaysia Airlines is reporting an incident on board. And it went down about halfway into its 12-hour flight, which would be close to the same time in the flight of the other Malaysia Airlines plane. But we all know how reliable Malaysia Airlines is in distributing information - not very. ETA: It does appear to have been shot down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 15:59:26 GMT
I've seen a few headlines saying the plane has been shot down and it went down in Ukraine. What I have not seen if it was done by the Russians or the Ukrainians. Either way, it's awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 16:02:11 GMT
Holy crap. I haven't checked the news/Twitter at all yet this morning, so this is the first I've heard of it. Just terrible.
I think it's a lot more likely that it's some terrorist group. As crazy as the Russians have been lately, I don't see their government shooting down a commercial airplane.
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Post by joyfromny on Jul 17, 2014 16:04:11 GMT
So sad!
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Jul 17, 2014 16:11:20 GMT
I'm watching ABC news, and they're saying that the Russians shot this plane down.
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 17, 2014 16:15:15 GMT
Holy crap. I haven't checked the news/Twitter at all yet this morning, so this is the first I've heard of it. Just terrible. I think it's a lot more likely that it's some terrorist group. As crazy as the Russians have been lately, I don't see their government shooting down a commercial airplane. More likely it would be pro-Russian separatists.
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Post by krazykatlady on Jul 17, 2014 16:16:45 GMT
It's the second one this week? Evidently a cargo plane was shot down on Monday around the same area of the border.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 16:18:02 GMT
Agreed. Who would clearly by acting as terrorists if they in fact did this.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 17, 2014 16:21:31 GMT
Agreed. Who would clearly by acting as terrorists if they in fact did this. I don't know that I would label it an act of terrorism, at least not until there is further information on motive. It would be an interesting discussion, anyway - when is it an act of war and when an act of terrorism? They shot down that transport plane and I would probably call that an act of war. Dunno. ETA* There's also the question of what the hell the plane was doing there in the first place. If the reports of the area they were flying are correct, the airspace was closed to commercial flights since July 8.
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Post by juliet on Jul 17, 2014 16:24:04 GMT
I'm feeling sick...at least 20 people on board were Dutch. This is just horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 16:25:22 GMT
My knee-jerk reaction on act of war vs act of terrorism is that acts of war are committed by nations and acts of terrorism are committed by other groups/individuals. But even as I say that, I realize that it's far too simplistic for the way the world is today, so... I dunno.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jul 17, 2014 16:26:00 GMT
I'm feeling sick...at least 20 people on board were Dutch. This is just horrible. Given that they were departing from Amsterdam, I'm surprised the number is that low.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 17, 2014 16:27:20 GMT
Agreed. Who would clearly by acting as terrorists if they in fact did this. Double agreed. I heard someone say this morning that the US/Russian relations are drifting towards the way they were during the Cold War. Putin may not have been behind it, but I am guessing he won't denounce it (if in fact they were pro-Russian separatists.)
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Post by juliet on Jul 17, 2014 16:28:33 GMT
I'm feeling sick...at least 20 people on board were Dutch. This is just horrible. Given that they were departing from Amsterdam, I'm surprised the number is that low. Only one travel agency has confirmed their numbers yet. They had 20 people on board. So I'm going to guess that number will rise in the next few hours. ETA: another Dutch travel agency confirmed 15 passengers
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Post by seikashaven on Jul 17, 2014 16:34:12 GMT
This is awful. Makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it.
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Post by aljack on Jul 17, 2014 16:38:35 GMT
Just horribly sad. There are speculations something happened on board but very vague. 295 people. Prayers for their families.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 16:44:07 GMT
I think it is irresponsible of the media to speculate with no facts. So dangerous. Tired of it.
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Post by karen on Jul 17, 2014 16:46:29 GMT
So very sad.
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