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Post by scrapApea on Aug 28, 2015 1:25:56 GMT
DD is looking at a University which is 20 min from our house. It's one of the best ones for her field of study. I'm so torn between, let's save $7000 a year vs you need to get out of here and experience "college life" and having to do it on your own. (she looked at another one 8 hours away but she thinking it's too far plus a different state, but then there's no questions on living arrangements)
I really think she needs to get out of the house, not that she's not independent already but she needs to learn I'm not the maid, Dad's not going to pick up and do stuff for her all the time etc etc
Plus she thinks she won't make friends if she's not living there.
Then I think, ok we don't have enough $$ to cover room and board, but we could do tuition and not have any loans.
Any thoughts, experiences on this??
Augh this whole college thing... remember when she had colic for 6 months.... I'm not sure which is more stressfull...
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Post by utmr on Aug 28, 2015 1:37:30 GMT
Could she stay at home for a year and then move on campus the later years?
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Post by julieb on Aug 28, 2015 1:40:26 GMT
That's a tough one. 20 minutes is not far at all and chances are she will find her way home often and not experience the "college life". Is it a large university with dorms, etc. or something smaller with apartments? Will she have a car?
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Post by scrapApea on Aug 28, 2015 1:41:38 GMT
She could, push come to shove. I guess I was just wondering on other's experiences with this. Is it better to just let them go and pay it ...probably depends on the child...
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Post by rst on Aug 28, 2015 1:44:11 GMT
See, I'd say, go live on campus the first 2 or 3 years, then consider moving home for the later years.
My reasons: getting established and having all those growth experiences as a freshman will be easier on campus. She will appreciate the benefits of home coming back for a couple of semesters later on , whereas she will likely not even recognize them if she just sort of continues her high schooler mode of life on a bigger campus. Plus, chances are good that she will find on-campus work or an internship a few years in which may pay for some of those costs. Or she may find a cheaper apartment to share with friends close to campus. If at all possible, I think there is a lot of benefit to making that move as a freshman.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 28, 2015 1:45:53 GMT
I lived at college...20 minutes away. Cannot even imagine commuting. She will miss so much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 1:46:19 GMT
I'd encourage living on campus first year, and then considering living at home. I do think living at home is valuable for a lot of reasons, but I also think it's good to experience the hardship of roommates and paying bills and keeping milk in the fridge.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Aug 28, 2015 1:46:06 GMT
I vote for her moving out.
Not from a parental standpoint though. I really feel like I figured myself out during my college years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 1:48:08 GMT
I'm totally on board for encouraging college students to get out of the house and live on campus, experiencing the real college life.
One of my girls is about 75 minutes away...she has a car. She lives on campus and always has. (even Freshman year when she had no car)
My other DD is about 60 minutes away...she has no car. She lives on campus as well.
But 20 minutes? Saving $7,000 a year...I think I'd encourage my kid to live at home and stay on campus as much as possible during the day. If you choose to have her stay at home, you need to set boundaries and expectations with her...IN WRITING and have the expectation that she follow those.
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 28, 2015 1:48:28 GMT
Move out
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Post by ntsf on Aug 28, 2015 1:51:44 GMT
my brothers lived at home all 4 yrs and came out with no loans. they were self sufficient all their lives. I lived at home freshman year..best year at school ever. I transfered to pursue a major. I think college life is overrated. my son moved into his dorm and a guy across the hall was arrested two days later for dealing heroin. I would have a clear set of written expectations..but there is really no rush or magic about being on campus for everyone. save the money.
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Post by Peal on Aug 28, 2015 1:55:08 GMT
Would you rather saddle her with student loan debt than have her miss out on the "college experience"? Plus the school close to home has an excellent program?
We are dealing with this now as my DS is trying to pick a college. He can go to the one here in town, that has an excellent program, but he would have to figure out where to live because we are moving out of state as soon as he graduates, or, he could go to the college close to where we will be living next year that also has a good program and he can save about $9K a year in just tuition costs. And he could live either at home or with other family (if he is desperate). Plus I think he could find less expensive housing there is he chooses to move out.
I don't want to tell him what to do, but I hope he understands that the education he gets at either institution is going to be comparable and the "college experience" probably isn't worth years of paying off student loans he wouldn't have had to take otherwise. But this is my first kid to go off to college and he isn't the terribly social type so I don't know how much it would appeal to him anyway. He just wants to get through college and get on with life.
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Post by sunraynnc on Aug 28, 2015 1:55:12 GMT
Best case scenario is for her to live on campus, if you can afford to pay for it. I would not get a loan for my dd to live 20 minutes away.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 28, 2015 1:57:24 GMT
Only 20 minutes away, there is no reason to live on campus unless it is required.I will say that I commuted to college and it wasn't what I would call the "true" college experience, but I came out of college debt free and live a productive life with family and friends.
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Post by jackietex on Aug 28, 2015 1:58:22 GMT
I lived in a dorm for 4 years in the same city as my parents. It was important to all of us that I live away from home. I believe it is an almost invaluable experience.
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Post by cakediva on Aug 28, 2015 2:02:56 GMT
My oldest goes to University 30 minutes from home.
It is her dime - we had no $$ set aside for the kids for school. She opted not to move into residence. However, she is a bit of an introvert, and has some social anxiety. It was almost the end of second semester when she finally met her "people" - she's made a really good friend and is looking forward to year 2. It wasn't worth $6000 for her to live in residence.
My younger daughter, on the other hand, can't wait to live in residence and move away for school. Her school will be about an hour and a half away (if she gets in) and so residence will be a must. But if she'd gone to the school her sister goes to, I still think she'd move in!
Friends of ours have a son off to the same school as DD this year. They live in our town as well, but he has chosen to live in residence. He wants that freshman experience, the whole social scene.
DD wanted no part of it...LOL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 2:06:06 GMT
I lived at home my first year, 15 minutes away. I lived in the dorms the next year. I really don't feel I missed out on college life my first year. I was close enough to do all the college stuff except for living there. Lots of students live at home. Living at home is still living a college life, just in a different way than the dorm students.
For $7000 a year I would stay at home. By the time college is finished that is $28,000.
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Post by tommygirl on Aug 28, 2015 2:06:52 GMT
I would encourage her to live on campus. That way she will feel a part of the school and not waste time commuting/put wear and tear on her vehicle/spend a lot on gas. A friend of ours was in your situation with her dd. In her sophomore year she was able to get a job as an RA for a dorm. It paid her room & board. I think she had a regular on campus job her freshman year. Maybe living on campus but having a job to help pay expenses could be a compromise?
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Post by AnotherPea on Aug 28, 2015 2:07:13 GMT
Gave my kid the choice. Stay at home for a free ride or figure out how to pay for dorm fees and meal plans. I can only afford to pay for so much. She chose to stay at home. I can see how she may have benefited from moving away but I also see how she definitely has benefited from being at home. Both will have pros and cons.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Aug 28, 2015 2:10:34 GMT
Dorm life and the "college experience" are overrated, IMO.
I moved out of the dorm at the end of the first semester because my roommate decided to spread HER wings by going out, getting drunk, and coming home to puke in our wastebasket at 3 in the morning. She also thought it was cool to bring the friends to our dorm room. After midnight. And sit there with the door open and the hall lights blazing in. Did I mention I had class at 7:45 in the morning?
If the lesson you want her to learn that mom is not the maid and dad is not going to stuff for her, then write up a "lease" contract for her. Come up with it before she leaves so you can all be prepared, and let her have some input on things, too (what "privileges" does she get and what "responsibilities" will she have).
Also, 20 minutes is about the length of my commute to work. Maybe the way you need to approach college, if she lives at home, is that it is her job.
Saving $28,000 would be really, really smart.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 28, 2015 2:20:04 GMT
I totally disagree with those that say that college dorm living is overrated! NO WAY. Both my girls lived in dorms. one all 4 yrs, Two yrs in a dorm, 2 yrs in the college apts. Youngest dd is going in to her 2nd yr in dorms. Yes, some of the experiences were negative. But man, they SURE learned a lot!! positive AND negative. And the negative, and partying, drinking, sex, cleaning, studying, being on your own, being an adult sucks, is WELL!! worth the money! I would defiantly push for her to do the 1st yr in the dorm. THAT is the year you meet your people, start to learn who you are out of HS. Be on her own. Then if that doesn't work out, she can still move home, but she will at least have her base set.
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Post by gryroagain on Aug 28, 2015 2:29:49 GMT
I can't imagine taking on loans for the experience, that seems very foolish if it's so close to commute to. A fully paid for college is the best experience, IMO. You can always work out a "rental" contract (without money) and give her the same space in her life from home. Home is free!
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Post by caangel on Aug 28, 2015 2:36:43 GMT
My college is 25 min from my parents' home. I am so thankful that my parents insisted that I live on campus. I had a friends from HS who commuted and they hated college and never really felt connected to the campus. The few friends that had good commuter experiences got involved on campus (in their cases Greek life).
Personally, my parents were able to pay for my school so that wasn't something they had to consider. I am big on being financially responsible so I think the answer is complicated for you. 2 years on campus and 2 years (or more) at home could be a good compromise. Depends on your/ her financial comfort level.
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Post by alissa103 on Aug 28, 2015 2:40:18 GMT
Count me in as another who disagrees that living on campus is overrated. I disagree.
I didn't have a good freshman year roommate experience. She hooked up with her boyfriend WHILE I WAS IN THE ROOM sleeping (obviously I woke up). And we had some other incompatibility issues as well. BUT it sure was a good learning experience for me. At the same time, I bonded great with a few other girls on my floor. Those girls? We are still best friends after almost 20 years. We just spent a weekend at a lake together this month! I would not have met & bonded with them if it hadn't forced me to spend more time in common areas and go visiting in rooms down the hall.
I also think there's something to be said for living away from mom & dad, where time is yours. No curfew. No one telling you what you should be doing with your time at that moment (studying, etc.) because that is part of growing up and learning. I made some mistakes there… staying up too late and being super tired in class. I learned to stop doing that for my early morning days and also to stop taking such early morning classes because I got more work done at night!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 3:08:41 GMT
If she wants to work and pay for her room and board herself, I'd say more power to her. But there's no way I'd go into debt to pay for my child to live on campus.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 28, 2015 3:11:22 GMT
How much could she earn at a summer job and working some while in school? Will she get any scholarships?
I has a freshman starting school next week. He's going 1,300 miles away from home, so obviously he will live in a residence hall. But his second choice was a school 45 minutes from here. But he would have still lived on campus. He has a job that's only 6 hours a week. That's his spending money and he is expected to pay for books.
I'm in the camp that believes there is a lot to be learned in living away from home, but there are still responsible adults monitoring things. There's a common bond in sucky roommates and late night pizza ordering. Yes, it's expensive. But I think all education is expensive, no matter how you get it. And living on your own and making mistakes when the majority of those mistakes are (relatively) easy to fix is a plus for my DS. But campus life isn't for everyone. I'd start having those conversations now so that you have the next year to weigh the pros and cons.
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Post by akathy on Aug 28, 2015 3:13:52 GMT
My oldest went to a college 4 hours away her first year so she lived in the dorms. She came back home and finished college here and lived at home.
My youngest went her first year here but lived in the dorms because she wanted that experience. At the time we lived about 6 minutes away from the school but my DD very rarely came home except for holidays. After the first year she went away and finished her schooling.
As far as I know neither of them feel they missed out on anything. I think you need to ask your DD if the college experience is worth paying $28,000 to her and if it is she needs to be responsible for the loans.
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Post by omarakbt on Aug 28, 2015 6:34:03 GMT
My experience is long ago and far away and probably like being from another galaxy
I went to 2 years of junior college before transferring to a 4 year school I tried to have a "college" life when I transferred. I was really too old for the dorms though I lived there for a semester but I felt out of place and YEARS older because I had to work and take care of all my own bills and such, no mommy and daddy close by to lend a hand. I felt like the older kids had all ready made their friendships living in then dorms their freshman year then moving to off campus apartments the following years. Granted this particular school was primarily a commuter school, no real campus life to speak of. I could have been out of step even if I lived on campus my freshman year as I was carrying a heavy school load and working. But I would have had a better chance at meeting college friends had I lived on campus my freshman year.
Our DD did go away, did live on campus and she now has friends that are her friends for life. When she was injured at college her dorm mates stepped right up and made sure she didn't loose any college time ( fractured right had ring finger requiring surgery) she she pretty much could do nothing This was a small private Christian college and the dorm community was close knit.
I'd be inclined to have her live on campus her freshman year for the life experience
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Aug 28, 2015 6:49:29 GMT
Since the college is so close and you'd have to take out a loan to have her live on campus, I think the best choice is for her to live at home and commute.
Have a family meeting and detail what your expectations are for her. Set limits and boundaries.
Far too many young people are coming out of college with a huge pile of debt. I would do everything I could to minimize the amount of loans she'd have to take out.
College may or may not be a good fit for her at this point in her life. Living at home, she can experience it and decide if she wants to continue her education or not.
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Post by sues on Aug 28, 2015 10:52:55 GMT
There is no way I'd pay room and board for a campus 20 minutes away just so she could have the experience and grow up a little.
I commuted to my university, 20 minutes away. I lived at home. I was close enough to school to participate in whatever was going on at school. But then- no one was footing the bill for me. I paid my own way and learned to balance what I needed vs what I wanted. Fastest way to adulthood.
Is that what I want for my kids? Not entirely. It was a struggle. But I think there are a lot of ways college kids learn to be adults- not just living away from home.
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