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Post by jayfab on Sept 22, 2015 23:07:31 GMT
Nice ... Holly O'Donnell is also a liar. linkeyFrom the link: Holly O’Donnell worked for StemExpress for just 34 days Today, a representative from StemExpress confirmed to Yahoo Health that O’Donnell had in fact been an employee there. However, while O’Donnell said in an earlier CMP video that she had applied to the company for a phlebotomist position and was unwittingly assigned to fetal tissue procurement work, the StemExpress representative states that she explicitly applied for a procurement technician position. O’Donnell was employed by StemExpress for just 34 days of work as a contract employee, working part-time during the period between December 2012 and April 2013. Upon leaving the company in April 2013, O’Donnell sent StemExpress a letter of resignation detailing that her only reason for leaving was because she was not working as many hours as a procurement technician for the company as she had hoped and that she was sorry to have to leave the organization and the position. Sorry - edit to fix link
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 23:45:28 GMT
Nice ... Holly O'Donnell is also a liar. liarsFrom the link: Holly O’Donnell worked for StemExpress for just 34 days Today, a representative from StemExpress confirmed to Yahoo Health that O’Donnell had in fact been an employee there. However, while O’Donnell said in an earlier CMP video that she had applied to the company for a phlebotomist position and was unwittingly assigned to fetal tissue procurement work, the StemExpress representative states that she explicitly applied for a procurement technician position. O’Donnell was employed by StemExpress for just 34 days of work as a contract employee, working part-time during the period between December 2012 and April 2013. Upon leaving the company in April 2013, O’Donnell sent StemExpress a letter of resignation detailing that her only reason for leaving was because she was not working as many hours as a procurement technician for the company as she had hoped and that she was sorry to have to leave the organization and the position. Your link only links back to this thread. Her letter of resignation could just be her not burning bridges and trying to avoid ugly retaliation in her employment history.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 23, 2015 0:10:57 GMT
Nice ... Holly O'Donnell is also a liar. liarsFrom the link: Holly O’Donnell worked for StemExpress for just 34 days Today, a representative from StemExpress confirmed to Yahoo Health that O’Donnell had in fact been an employee there. However, while O’Donnell said in an earlier CMP video that she had applied to the company for a phlebotomist position and was unwittingly assigned to fetal tissue procurement work, the StemExpress representative states that she explicitly applied for a procurement technician position. O’Donnell was employed by StemExpress for just 34 days of work as a contract employee, working part-time during the period between December 2012 and April 2013. Upon leaving the company in April 2013, O’Donnell sent StemExpress a letter of resignation detailing that her only reason for leaving was because she was not working as many hours as a procurement technician for the company as she had hoped and that she was sorry to have to leave the organization and the position. Your link only links back to this thread. Her letter of resignation could just be her not burning bridges and trying to avoid ugly retaliation in her employment history. She fixed the link. It just took me to a Yahoo news story that I haven't read yet, but there's video of Holly O'Donnell and a headline that says the baby in the bowl was stillborn, not the product of an abortion.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 23, 2015 0:43:23 GMT
Your link only links back to this thread. Her letter of resignation could just be her not burning bridges and trying to avoid ugly retaliation in her employment history. She fixed the link. It just took me to a Yahoo news story that I haven't read yet, but there's video of Holly O'Donnell and a headline that says the baby in the bowl was stillborn, not the product of an abortion. That was my impression, too. Hmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 0:48:24 GMT
Your link only links back to this thread. Her letter of resignation could just be her not burning bridges and trying to avoid ugly retaliation in her employment history. She fixed the link. It just took me to a Yahoo news story that I haven't read yet, but there's video of Holly O'Donnell and a headline that says the baby in the bowl was stillborn, not the product of an abortion. I don't know where the baby came from but it was kicking.
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Post by jayfab on Sept 23, 2015 1:48:48 GMT
She fixed the link. It just took me to a Yahoo news story that I haven't read yet, but there's video of Holly O'Donnell and a headline that says the baby in the bowl was stillborn, not the product of an abortion. I don't know where the baby came from but it was kicking. If you read the fixed link it explains where the stillborn baby came from and the doctor explains involuntary muscle movement.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 23, 2015 2:30:43 GMT
Well this story is just getting uglier and uglier. A couple of my thoughts. I don't understand why in the yahoo video they are claiming a beating heart has no implications for life - that's just weird IMO. The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform who provided the picture of the fetus in the bowl claims it was from an abortion in a clinic - they are a pro-life activist group, you can choose to believe or disbelieve them. This is their statement to the Federalist (an unabashed right wing source: “The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage." thefederalist.com/2015/09/18/whos-really-lying-about-the-planned-parenthood-videos-carly-fiorina-or-the-factcheckers/Now one thing to me is absolutely unarguable. The baby (and I do believe that is the correct term as the premature infant was born with a heartbeat and died in his parents arms so would not technically be stillborn despite the yahoo title) shown at the end of the video was used without the parents permission. That is just vile. The mother blogged about her experience - warning these are graphic images: f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/I can't imagine the horror of the loss of my pregnancy showing up in a video - that is just unconscionable.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 23, 2015 7:16:30 GMT
Well this story is just getting uglier and uglier. A couple of my thoughts. I don't understand why in the yahoo video they are claiming a beating heart has no implications for life - that's just weird IMO. The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform who provided the picture of the fetus in the bowl claims it was from an abortion in a clinic - they are a pro-life activist group, you can choose to believe or disbelieve them. This is their statement to the Federalist (an unabashed right wing source: “The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage." thefederalist.com/2015/09/18/whos-really-lying-about-the-planned-parenthood-videos-carly-fiorina-or-the-factcheckers/Now one thing to me is absolutely unarguable. The baby (and I do believe that is the correct term as the premature infant was born with a heartbeat and died in his parents arms so would not technically be stillborn despite the yahoo title) shown at the end of the video was used without the parents permission. That is just vile. The mother blogged about her experience - warning these are graphic images: f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/I can't imagine the horror of the loss of my pregnancy showing up in a video - that is just unconscionable. Jeez. You are right. Ugly all the way around. ugh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 20:13:14 GMT
So let's recap Carly's gotcha challenge to Hillary Clinton.
1. Carly implied the video was shot at PP and we find that it wasn't.
2. The aborted fetus was actually a stillborn baby by the name of Walter.
3. The video footage of Walter was used without the permission of his devastated mother.
4. If one reads the article there seems to be some questions about how authentic Holly O'Donnell's narrative was of what went on at that clinic.
It seems to me that if one is going to challenge someone one should be sure of information or in this case video before they issue the challenge. I mean in this instant information age one has to believe there would be fact checking. Seems to me the former CEO of a large tech company would know that.
So either Carly and/or her staff didn't do their homework or she didn't care but wanted to get that "gotcha" moment without the facts. Kind of like something that Trump would do. It would appear these two are an awful lot alike.
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Post by Sam on Sept 23, 2015 20:21:28 GMT
Saw the word 'Trump' (had a childish laugh at that) and drinking game all in one post title, so am having a BIG slug right now. Kind of going to miss out the middle to keep my BP a little lower and enjoy the evening!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 20:59:06 GMT
So let's recap Carly's gotcha challenge to Hillary Clinton. 1. Carly implied the video was shot at PP and we find that it wasn't. 2. The aborted fetus was actually a stillborn baby by the name of Walter. 3. The video footage of Walter was used without the permission of his devastated mother. 4. If one reads the article there seems to be some questions about how authentic Holly O'Donnell's narrative was of what went on at that clinic. It seems to me that if one is going to challenge someone one should be sure of information or in this case video before they issue the challenge. I mean in this instant information age one has to believe there would be fact checking. Seems to me the former CEO of a large tech company would know that. So either Carly and/or her staff didn't do their homework or she didn't care but wanted to get that "gotcha" moment without the facts. Kind of like something that Trump would do. It would appear these two are an awful lot alike. One should also apply that to their gotcha recaps too.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 23, 2015 23:39:13 GMT
Your link only links back to this thread. Her letter of resignation could just be her not burning bridges and trying to avoid ugly retaliation in her employment history. She fixed the link. It just took me to a Yahoo news story that I haven't read yet, but there's video of Holly O'Donnell and a headline that says the baby in the bowl was stillborn, not the product of an abortion. I read that article. It really makes you wonder about the authenticity of the video.
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Post by pepper59 on Sept 24, 2015 5:40:17 GMT
I've been sitting here tonight reading this entire thread and I cannot get over the fact that people are arguing over this like they are discussing tonsillectomies. BABIES, viable babies are being killed and their body parts sold. How can anyone say it's a fetus, then moments later when delivered, it's a baby. It's a fetus if it's unwanted. It's a baby if you want it and have a team of neonatologists to try and save it.
Babies, who were alive...kicking...feeling... sucking their thumbs...safe in their mother's womb. Then because they were not wanted, they were killed or pulled alive from the womb and their organs harvested. They were either poisoned, burned to death by saline injected into the amniotic fluid or their head crushed by forceps and dismembered. A living child who just a few minutes later is now a dead child.
I dare anyone to watch this video of the doctor in charge of ALL Planned Parenthood Abortion Services enjoy her salad as she discusses how she won't crush the 'important' parts. Tell me how they 'edited it' as you watch and hear her say the words. If you can watch this and still be okay with it .. there are no words.
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And this is not the second Holocaust? May God have mercy on us all.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 24, 2015 8:30:01 GMT
I've been sitting here tonight reading this entire thread and I cannot get over the fact that people are arguing over this like they are discussing tonsillectomies. BABIES, viable babies are being killed and their body parts sold. How can anyone say it's a fetus, then moments later when delivered, it's a baby. It's a fetus if it's unwanted. It's a baby if you want it and have a team of neonatologists to try and save it.
Babies, who were alive...kicking...feeling... sucking their thumbs...safe in their mother's womb. Then because they were not wanted, they were killed or pulled alive from the womb and their organs harvested. They were either poisoned, burned to death by saline injected into the amniotic fluid or their head crushed by forceps and dismembered. A living child who just a few minutes later is now a dead child.
I dare anyone to watch this video of the doctor in charge of ALL Planned Parenthood Abortion Services enjoy her salad as she discusses how she won't crush the 'important' parts. Tell me how they 'edited it' as you watch and hear her say the words. If you can watch this and still be okay with it .. there are no words.
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And this is not the second Holocaust? May God have mercy on us all. For the love of God, one more time ... if a viable fetus is delivered alive, it is now a living child and killing it would be murder. The vast, VAST majority of abortions performed in this country involve first trimester, non-viable fetuses. I don't believe Planned Parenthood performs ANY late-term abortions. I realize the anti-abortion-at-any-cost forces are filling your feed with tales of murdered babies, but Planned Parenthood is simply not murdering babies. Every attempt to show they are ends up being disproved as a falsehood. That doctor in Philadelphia may have been, but ethical doctors don't. I've watched the salad lady video. It is uncomfortable to watch. That doesn't change my feelings about keeping abortion safe, legal, and accessible. If that makes me a perpetrator of the second Holocaust in your eyes, so be it.
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Post by pepper59 on Sept 24, 2015 17:18:08 GMT
The doctor on the video does abortions up to 24 weeks. That means she is killing and dismembering babies like this: Many abortions are done in the first trimester but many are also done in the second. To watch that woman eat her lunch while describing how she 'crushes' a child to death is no different than seeing photos of the Nazi monster Dr. Mengele's experiments on babies, the infirm and anyone else he deemed inhuman.
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