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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Sept 17, 2015 0:24:26 GMT
The shots are poured and i'm ready for the Trump drinking game.
Ted Cruz looks like such a weenie.
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Post by oaksong on Sept 17, 2015 0:28:40 GMT
Drinking game? Do tell. Anything to dull the pain of watching these knuckleheads.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 17, 2015 0:28:43 GMT
Post the Donald drinking game rules!
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Post by katybee on Sept 17, 2015 0:29:06 GMT
Whaaat? There's a drinking game? I want to play… Except I have to work tomorrow. :-(
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 17, 2015 0:32:39 GMT
A favorite is anytime Donald says Trump. I would go with water on this particular game.
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Post by Ryann on Sept 17, 2015 0:32:45 GMT
Work or no work. Let's do this!
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Sept 17, 2015 0:34:06 GMT
Drink whenever Trump says:
Huuuuuge
Apprentice
Terrific, fantastic, amazing or phenomenal to describe himself
Or slams Rand Paul or anyone's looks
Let's see who's still standing at the end of the debate. I'm not talking about the candidates. I'm talkng about us lushes.
Let's get shit-faced, bitches!
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 17, 2015 0:34:32 GMT
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Post by oaksong on Sept 17, 2015 0:35:41 GMT
Drink in hand, all set!
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Post by oaksong on Sept 17, 2015 0:37:14 GMT
Drink whenever Trump says: Huuuuuge Apprentice Terrific, fantastic, amazing or phenomenal to describe himself Or slams Rand Paul or anyone's looks Let's see who's still standing at the end of the debate. I'm not talking about the candidates. I'm talkng about us lushes. Let's get shit-faced, bitches! So basically, we drink every time Trump talks. Got it. |
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Post by foolana on Sept 17, 2015 1:15:57 GMT
I think you all should drink every time one of them says "I defunded Planned Parenthood!" Like that's something to be proud of; keeping women from being able to get proper health care.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 17, 2015 2:14:09 GMT
I think you all should drink every time one of them says "I defunded Planned Parenthood!" Like that's something to be proud of; keeping women from being able to get proper health care. I think that they are welcome to their beliefs and I stand behind their right to their specific values. Do I want planned parenthood defunded? Nope, but I completely understand why these people do. |
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Post by lcp88 on Sept 17, 2015 2:19:25 GMT
I think you all should drink every time one of them says "I defunded Planned Parenthood!" Like that's something to be proud of; keeping women from being able to get proper health care. I think that they are welcome to their beliefs and I stand behind their right to their specific values. Do I want planned parenthood defunded? Nope, but I completely understand why these people do. But remember, they're NOT anti-woman! Not at all  |
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Post by katybee on Sept 17, 2015 2:26:47 GMT
Well… I'm a lot more sober than I thought I would be! Trump hasn't gotten a lot of speaking time, has he? Of course, every time he did speak, we had to drink. But he kind of got shut down.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 17, 2015 2:39:31 GMT
I think that they are welcome to their beliefs and I stand behind their right to their specific values. Do I want planned parenthood defunded? Nope, but I completely understand why these people do. But remember, they're NOT anti-woman! Not at all I don't think they are. I think they are anti-abortion and anti-poor, but not really anti-women |
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Post by Ryann on Sept 17, 2015 2:45:21 GMT
I think the moderators have done a good job overall in keeping Trump in his corner proportionate to the others on the stage. I thought in the beginning he had a lot of airtime, but I think they've been moving around the stage pretty well. Although as i type this, I feel like Ben Carson hasn't been up for a while, lol.
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Post by Ryann on Sept 17, 2015 2:47:30 GMT
But remember, they're NOT anti-woman! Not at all I don't think they are. I think they are anti-abortion and anti-poor, but not really anti-women I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though.  |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Sept 17, 2015 2:49:41 GMT
I think the moderators have done a good job overall in keeping Trump in his corner proportionate to the others on the stage. I thought in the beginning he had a lot of airtime, but I think they've been moving around the stage pretty well. Although as i type this, I feel like Ben Carson hasn't been up for a while, lol. He did't get much air time last time at the mini-forum before the debate. But he had the best closing I've ever heard!!! |
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 17, 2015 2:52:37 GMT
I don't think they are. I think they are anti-abortion and anti-poor, but not really anti-women I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though. I agree with part. I do think they think this. I also think that the abortion piece is the only thing they care about. |
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Post by Ryann on Sept 17, 2015 2:54:20 GMT
I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though. I agree with part. I do think they think this. I also think that the abortion piece is the only thing they care about.And I agree with you! |
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Post by lcp88 on Sept 17, 2015 2:54:53 GMT
I don't think they are. I think they are anti-abortion and anti-poor, but not really anti-women I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though. Yup. They don't seem to know - or care - that there are more facets to planned parenthood than abortion. Womens health is MORE than reproduction. By bitching incessently about an organization that serves tons and tons of women, they seem to be pretty a anti-women. It's disappointing to see Carly Fiorina be so adamently opposed. I hate when women don't even get it. |
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Post by beaglemom on Sept 17, 2015 5:22:30 GMT
The one I heard recommended on NPR this morning was that anytime any of them said Reagan to drink.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 6:05:22 GMT
I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though. I agree with part. I do think they think this. I also think that the abortion piece is the only thing they care about. My opinion is that Planned Parenthood has become less about women's health and more about profits from the body parts of fetuses. I fully support defunding them and directing those funds for women's health to organizations that don't sell the body parts of babies. As for the overall debate, I think Trump was an ass right out of the gate and I'll be surprised if his numbers aren't lower tomorrow. (And this is coming from someone who voted Yes to supporting Trump on the blind poll anxiousmom posted.) My opinion of Christie went way up, which shocks me as I've pretty much disliked him for years. Fiorina impressed me. She had some great answers tonight. Still have a visceral dislike of her, though. Rand Paul needs to just go. He's an idiot. Huckabee - nice guy, some good ideas but he's too right-wing bible thumping. Kaisch - *snore* Walker - more *snores* Carson - Love him. His amazingly high level of intelligence is sorely needed, but his lack of visible passion is going to hurt him. Rubio - Love him, too. He's extremely knowledgeable and his perspective in regards to immigration is personal and real. I think he could do great things in regards to that issue. Bush - He's being bulldozed all over the place and can't seem to get out of the quicksand. Not a good sign. No one wants another Bush in the WH, and that's coming from a staunch GW fan. Cruz - as with Huckabee, nice guy with good ideas but too far right with the social issues. I don't want a bible-thumper for president. L |
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Sept 17, 2015 12:40:08 GMT
I don't know. I feel like they seem to think PP is all about the abortion services when PP as a whole is women's healthcare. So to defund it, is defunding women's healthcare. I know it's much more complicated than that, though. Yup. They don't seem to know - or care - that there are more facets to planned parenthood than abortion. Womens health is MORE than reproduction. By bitching incessently about an organization that serves tons and tons of women, they seem to be pretty a anti-women. It's disappointing to see Carly Fiorina be so adamently opposed. I hate when women don't even get it. You don't think that women can get those other services (mammograms, birth control, ect.) elsewhere? Come on now. |
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Post by lcp88 on Sept 17, 2015 16:50:04 GMT
Yup. They don't seem to know - or care - that there are more facets to planned parenthood than abortion. Womens health is MORE than reproduction. By bitching incessently about an organization that serves tons and tons of women, they seem to be pretty a anti-women. It's disappointing to see Carly Fiorina be so adamently opposed. I hate when women don't even get it. You don't think that women can get those other services (mammograms, birth control, ect.) elsewhere? Come on now. Well, sure, some can. Not all. But why completely eliminate the chance for all women to have easy access to healthcare services? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 17:33:39 GMT
You don't think that women can get those other services (mammograms, birth control, ect.) elsewhere? Come on now. Well, sure, some can. Not all. But why completely eliminate the chance for all women to have easy access to healthcare services? What is stopping the rest of them? If Planned Parenthood was eliminated because they're breaking the law, wouldn't some other service provider come in to fill the void? |
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Post by lcp88 on Sept 17, 2015 18:03:08 GMT
Well, sure, some can. Not all. But why completely eliminate the chance for all women to have easy access to healthcare services? What is stopping the rest of them? Money, usually. Planned Parenthood does not refuse treatment for preventative services like gynocological exams or birth control, so if you're not able to pay the traditional fees associated with such care, it's covered there. Sometimes basics like transportation and access to quality neighborhood care (eg if they live in a low-income area, it's a lot harder to find a doctor close by. PP typically has centers closer to them) is also a hinderance. If they are students at a religious school, many get their birth control perscriptions filled there since campus health centers will not. Or, in the case of an aquaintance (I know, I know - ancedata!), she was sexually assaulted but still on her parents insurance (23 at the time). She chose to go to PP for STI testing and counseling so that she could tell her parents when she was ready to, and not when her parents got the insurance bill and saw the codes for an HIV test. 1 in 5 women will go to a Planned Parenthood center in their lifetime. Most go for STIs or contraceptives. Abortions are only 3% of their services. Many centers do not perform them. Do We Still Need Planned Parenthood?
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Post by lcp88 on Sept 17, 2015 18:03:34 GMT
Planned Parenthood is not breaking any law...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 19:16:30 GMT
Planned Parenthood is not breaking any law... According to the latest video they are. "Deb VanDerhei, the national director for the Consortium of Abortion Providers at Planned Parenthood Federation of America asks the buyer if he “just wants livers.” He says he’s looking for everything. She asks about “remuneration,” which is a fancy word for financial compensation. She brings up the question of profits on her own and without prompting, and worries that the kickbacks be handled “carefully” because “the headlines would be a disaster.” She says she only wants to sell the parts if, "it's worth it". She says she knows they can “generate a fair amount of income doing this,” which is a statement that directly contradicts the claim that they aren't in it for profit. Planned Parenthood official, Vanessa Russo says she “won’t be bullied by ridiculous law”. She denies that Planned Parenthood “should curtail its business for ridiculousness” (the law is the “ridiculousness” in this case)." It’s been established well beyond a reasonable doubt that they are breaking the law: they’re admitting it on camera. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 19:50:19 GMT
Planned Parenthood is not breaking any law... According to the latest video they are. "Deb VanDerhei, the national director for the Consortium of Abortion Providers at Planned Parenthood Federation of America asks the buyer if he “just wants livers.” He says he’s looking for everything. She asks about “remuneration,” which is a fancy word for financial compensation. She brings up the question of profits on her own and without prompting, and worries that the kickbacks be handled “carefully” because “the headlines would be a disaster.” She says she only wants to sell the parts if, "it's worth it". She says she knows they can “generate a fair amount of income doing this,” which is a statement that directly contradicts the claim that they aren't in it for profit. Planned Parenthood official, Vanessa Russo says she “won’t be bullied by ridiculous law”. She denies that Planned Parenthood “should curtail its business for ridiculousness” (the law is the “ridiculousness” in this case)." It’s been established well beyond a reasonable doubt that they are breaking the law: they’re admitting it on camera. There is absolutely no doubt that they are breaking the law, is there? And you left out the part where she said "Oh, and the FRESH GONADS. Oh my God, the GONADS!" I still can't fathom a decent human being listening to these videos and still supporting this evil. But then again, most of those who are still supporting them refuse to watch the videos, don't they? Dismiss them as altered or out of context, without doing their research. The hallmark of someone who doesn't want to see the truth before them, doesn't want to challenge their own status quo. But this isn't about abortion. This is about the selling of human baby parts for profit. PROFIT. PP is doing that. Planned Parenthood does NOT provide services that women can't get anywhere else. There are, by far, thousands more community health clinics that actually DO provide comprehensive women's health care in this country. Over 13,000 of them, to be more exact, versus less than 700 PP clinics. Planned Parenthood does NOT provide mammograms, only referrals. So they provide BC and STI tests, and abortions. And abortions are their bread and butter, make no mistake. So if PP is defunded and goes belly up (Which wont' happen - they make a big enough profit to cover the loss), there will be plenty of providers to step in and take up the slack. Senate Republicans have introduced a bill to defund this monstrosity. But their plan would take the half a billion dollars that PP gets, and divert it to the other health clinics that serve the same areas that PP does. So stop with the "ANTI WOMAN" bullcrap. That's lazy, so lazy. The GOP is full of smart, educated informed women who support the right of a baby to be born, and abhor the butchering for profit of their little bodies. That is about as PRO WOMAN as you can get, right there. I hope they shut the government down over this. I hope they force the democrats to explain why they support an orgainzation that breaks the law every day and profits from it, all while taking OUR tax dollars. But I'm not holding my breath. |
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