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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 7, 2016 3:14:05 GMT
Let's talk
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 7, 2016 3:15:44 GMT
Jeb Bush doesn't seem sure what selective service is
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Feb 7, 2016 3:17:07 GMT
Once we can equally serve, then I think we should be able to be equally drafted.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 7, 2016 3:18:21 GMT
I don't see equal service being in my lifetime.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 7, 2016 3:28:42 GMT
God Marco, you will never get the actual nomination by being a gay hater or a vigilant pro lifer. Get off the stage.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 7, 2016 3:34:43 GMT
Once we can equally serve, then I think we should be able to be equally drafted. in theory sure, I'm all for equal all the way. We should be equal. However in reality I don't think it would work. Due to biology I think it could be rather costly. I mean anyone who doesn't really 'want' to serve could just get pregnant. Yes it's an absolutely piss poor reason to get pregnant and bring a child into the world but, I'm pretty sure I know enough young people with piss poor judgement who would do it. And what do you do with all the pregnant young women? who pays for the healthcare? We need to change our society first. We need to treat boys and girls equally all along so they expect to be equal. We also HAVE to get back to being a society that values personal responsibility. Because until we do those two things we aren't preparing them to step up to their responsibilities. Right now I'd say only about %20 of my children's peers were raised to be responsible for their own actions. And on top of that we would have to get back to a society that values and teaches the concept of duty. Very few people understand and accept that sometimes one has a duty to do something even if it might be difficult.
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 7, 2016 3:36:27 GMT
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Post by maureen on Feb 7, 2016 3:37:18 GMT
I think if we want to be equal as women, we need to accept all the responsibility that comes with equality.
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Post by buckeyegirl on Feb 7, 2016 3:37:45 GMT
God Marco, you will never get the actual nomination by being a gay hater or a vigilant pro lifer. Get off the stage. Just because someone believes in traditional marriage does not make them a gay hater. Good grief.
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 7, 2016 3:41:02 GMT
From whose perspective? The individuals just told they aren't deserving of marriage might look at it differently.
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Post by smokeynspike on Feb 7, 2016 3:42:22 GMT
I don't think we should even have a draft in this day and age anyway, for anyone.
Melissa
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 7, 2016 3:45:23 GMT
I never wanted to vote for Hillary but with this group of men...she has my vote. So freaking disappointed.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 7, 2016 3:49:44 GMT
I agree with him on this. Women want equality, except...
If we are going to draft men, we should also be able to draft females.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 7, 2016 3:51:46 GMT
I don't think we should even have a draft in this day and age anyway, for anyone. Melissa We don't.
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Post by Skypea on Feb 7, 2016 4:40:40 GMT
God Marco, you will never get the actual nomination by being a gay hater or a vigilant pro lifer. Get off the stage. sounds like you're a Christian hater...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 4:43:04 GMT
I'm fine with that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 4:51:49 GMT
While we don't have a draft currently we DO still require young men to register with the selective service. IMO, because we do have women in the military young women should also be required to register and face being drafted for the jobs they can/are allowed to perform.
As for females using pregnancy for an excuse to get out of deployments, they already do. And they weren't drafted.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Feb 7, 2016 5:14:03 GMT
I'm really tired of Mr. Rubio. Chris Christie destroyed him earlier. That was awesome. He's right. Once Marco deviates from his 25-second memorized sound bites, he sounds so stupid.
I'm tired of all of these guys, really. All they do is tear each other apart. They are doing their own dirty work.
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Post by smokeynspike on Feb 7, 2016 5:24:15 GMT
I don't think we should even have a draft in this day and age anyway, for anyone. Melissa We don't. Selective service. Whatever. Equates to the same thing in my opinion. I don't think anyone today should have to register with the government to potentially be enlisted in our armed forces. Melissa
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Post by RiverIsis on Feb 7, 2016 5:38:09 GMT
While we don't have a draft currently we DO still require young men to register with the selective service. IMO, because we do have women in the military young women should also be required to register and face being drafted for the jobs they can/are allowed to perform. As for females using pregnancy for an excuse to get out of deployments, they already do. And they weren't drafted. 30 years ago I was happy to sign up. I honestly didn't feel that my male contemporaries should have to sign up to get Federal Financial Aid I didn't. Whether I could go to the front line or not didn't matter. It is all about accountability and a nation having a pool of eligible people for military service if it should become necessary. Selective service. Whatever. Equates to the same thing in my opinion. I don't think anyone today should have to register with the government to potentially be enlisted in our armed forces. Melissa Unfortunately unless we start to live in a Utopian society it is necessary responsibility of living in a free society that at times we have to be accountable to be available to protect that society. I honestly, don't think we are anywhere near enacting the draft again (drones and targeted warfare etc. are taking the place of putting personnel in danger in many cases), however it is important that we are able to do so quickly and efficiently if necessary.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 7, 2016 6:27:35 GMT
While we don't have a draft currently we DO still require young men to register with the selective service. IMO, because we do have women in the military young women should also be required to register and face being drafted for the jobs they can/are allowed to perform. As for females using pregnancy for an excuse to get out of deployments, they already do. And they weren't drafted. I completely agree.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Feb 7, 2016 6:58:14 GMT
I think each and every person should have to do at least 4 year in the services male or female.
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Post by happymomma on Feb 7, 2016 7:06:15 GMT
I think each and every person should have to do at least 4 year in the services male or female. Not me. If I were in combat, I wouldn't want someone "having my six" who absolutely didn't want to be there and was curled in a fetal position crying and useless. Not everyone is cut out for the military, period. Heck, not everyone who voluntarily signs up is. Not everyone makes it through boot camp. Your very life depends on having capable people backing you up. I can name many people I know personally that I would not trust with my life. I know I for one would never ever been able to handle it, physically or mentally. I'll stick to people that at least believe they can handle it defending our country and protecting the lives of our fellow soldiers.
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 7, 2016 7:15:51 GMT
I detest Rubio with a hatred as strong as the fire of a thousand suns, but in this I agree. I do not see an actual draft occurring unless something very catastrophic is going on in the world, and in that case if it's necessary it must happen. Women can certainly be included, and should have been, IMO, even before combat jobs were opened to them. Just because those jobs are open doesn't mean women must serve there, I know many men unsuited for combat jobs but well suited to support roles, women are no different.
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Post by paget on Feb 7, 2016 7:16:35 GMT
From whose perspective? The individuals just told they aren't deserving of marriage might look at it differently. Let's spin it another way- are pro choicers baby haters?
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 7, 2016 11:07:19 GMT
I think each and every person should have to do at least 4 year in the services male or female. Not me. If I were in combat, I wouldn't want someone "having my six" who absolutely didn't want to be there and was curled in a fetal position crying and useless. Not everyone is cut out for the military, period. Heck, not everyone who voluntarily signs up is. Not everyone makes it through boot camp. Your very life depends on having capable people backing you up. I can name many people I know personally that I would not trust with my life. I know I for one would never ever been able to handle it, physically or mentally. I'll stick to people that at least believe they can handle it defending our country and protecting the lives of our fellow soldiers. I completely agree with @happymomma
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 12:00:09 GMT
I think each and every person should have to do at least 4 year in the services male or female. I don't think it is beneficial to the military to have a mandatory 4 year service. 1) not everyone is cut out mentally, physically or emotionally to serve in the military. Instead of being useful they become a danger to others by their presence. 2) I feel 4 years is way to long of a period for an involuntary commitment. No more than 2 years and probably only one. I do feel those who aren't capable of serving in the military when a draft is started should still be required to do something to serve their fellow citizens or humanity. Instead of drafting into the military draft into Americorp, the Peace Corp or the WPA (Works Projects Admin for building national infrastructure)
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Post by maryland on Feb 7, 2016 12:26:41 GMT
I don't think we should even have a draft in this day and age anyway, for anyone. Melissa I agree!
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Post by myboysnme on Feb 7, 2016 15:51:06 GMT
I completely oppose the draft in every possible way and I do not support selective service registration. Way to big brother everyone. You send in this information and where does it go? Who maintains it?
I am sick of hearing "If women want to be equal..." We are equal under the law. Registering for selective service or not does not make us equal or unequal. Why isn't anyone asking why men have to register instead of why women don't.
If the day comes when a draft is determined to be necessary, THEN they can collect names. Until then there is no reason to have a data base of citizens for no real purpose. The number of citizens in a certain age group can be determined by taxes, social security, schools and the census.
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Post by Linda on Feb 7, 2016 15:56:50 GMT
I think that we should have a National Service requirement - with options of either military service or stuff like the old CCC and WPA (from the depression era).
I also think that if women want equality within the military/society then we need to accept that equality isn't just rights, it's also responsibility so I agree with Rubio about selective service registrations.
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