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Post by zookeeper on May 9, 2017 0:58:33 GMT
I see that the discussion on race relations is going well. This is why we never get anywhere on the topic of race. It so quickly unravels into name calling, erroneous judgement and fear mongering.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 3:47:14 GMT
And I can assure you no one else will tackle her response or acklowedge her character. This omniscience of yours is why I don't participate in your threads. Hard to argue either with or against someone who already knows what everybody else will think, say or do. I've seen Georgiapea say clearly racist things in the past and it went unchecked so I just assumed it would be much of the same. *shrugs* I did edit my post though you didn't quote that portion but I will make note that you've taken your barbies home as well. Have a great rest of the week Amelia. I am sure there is nothing else that prevents you from treating me as a member of this board. Just a recap of this thread: I post about feeling as if I don't matter as an American citizen as if my death would go unpunished. Zee says All Lives Matter specifically those in Inner City Chicago. Black on black crime blah blah blah. Google white on white crime and watch the documentary 13TH. leftturnonly said something racial insensitive but quickly realized the error in her ways. Too late with the quote feature though. Minimal backtracking. Gina "welcomes" me back to the pod. Her poking of me has been consistent if you see me in a thread you see Gina attempting to point out either how my participation has waned in over the years or "her past interactions" with me. She accuses me of some things she claims will only take a min to find yet only posts the peamail she is afraid I will posts Olan begins to get a bit more angry in her text, mostly in response to things the peas say that go unchecked by anyone else who may think "Hey this is wrong" Look through this thread and count the number of times someone says something that wouldn't fly in ANY other circle: The two men who were killed by police, well we know what happened. This thread really is a culmination of my years her at 2peas...so I slink away upset about all the years I wasted *haha* no one noticed because everyone was leaving to escape disgusting liberals. I think I posted again for the first time after this thread on the eve of Election Day. I come back here a couple days ago to "refresh" this thread and AmeliaBloomer and refugeepea refuse to play with my black barbies. I tried to get the conversation back on track and asked what you specifically felt about this case...hell its only 4 pages or so..you can see what went down. Just admit no one wants to discuss this case or what's happening in America. Even liberals. Allyship and silence do not go hand in hand ladies. I get that you all hate me but take Olan out of this equation. So yes I called everyone racist if you don't like to read quoted text in its totality and allow for the writer to correct onself in post that preceded you dropping the fbomb and getting all emotional then hey what can I say to you. that's why no one can hear my little pea voice but then libby and georgiapea show up don't forget beachgurl and how calculated her response was *shrugs* also note the LEO wives and lucyg take on Edwards death. So the peas are upset because I call a duck a duck. Really? A pea says that silence doesn't mean that other peas agree? Hmm okay Check the likes on GeorgiaPeas most racist comments. Look here on this thread. How many people attacked me or watched someone else go do so find that thread where the pea assumes I am hand slapping her when it's clear I meant if mama can type in dusty rose+wedge+8.5 but whatever. Look at How many people deflected instead of denounced. What's that quote about silenc in the face of injustice. What will your grandchildren say. That's why I keep tagging you. I want your pea history to be attached to this thread. You will find mine tagged because I hold myself accountable for the things I say as well. You'll also find several peas acting like society should behave. I really appreciate the two peas I named one year ago. I believe I also reached out via peamial to thank these two specific peas. I won't name them because every single thing I post gets picked apart and I wouldn't want that to be their portion Editing from phone
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 3:53:51 GMT
And really what does it matter? I didn't point out Libby's comments because I am 100% confident people like her are hopeless. No one else did. I wouldn't have challenged Georgiapeas thoughts either. She is an ugly old lady from NW Indiana and I left people like her exactly where they stood. Middle of a cornfield somewhere. My high school boyfriend is a car salesman. My ex husband was demoted for cheating on me and then kicked out of the military. I am living well. She keeps squirrels hostage in her home and pretends to rehab them. How sad is that?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 9, 2017 4:25:37 GMT
People who behave themselves do not get shot. It has NOTHING to do with racism. NOTHING. It has to do with being a law abiding citizen. Unbelievable. Happens.every.single.day. It's really unbelievable that you make this ridiculous (and grossly untrue) claim.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 9, 2017 4:31:49 GMT
I live in Georgia? Wow, how did that happen? That's as mixed up as some of your thinking. As for my comment, it was tongue in cheek, as I have NOTHING to be ashamed of, nor am I. And yes, if you are hanging around a drug area, you are up to no good and bring your fate upon yourself. YOU and your disgusting attitude are just that. Disgusting. But, it doesn't surprise me, given other posts you've made here.
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Post by tduby1 on May 9, 2017 9:05:55 GMT
And really what does it matter? I didn't point out Libby's comments because I am 100% confident people like her are hopeless. No one else did. I wouldn't have challenged Georgiapeas thoughts either. She is an ugly old lady from NW Indiana and I left people like her exactly where they stood. Middle of a cornfield somewhere. My high school boyfriend is a car salesman. My ex husband was demoted for cheating on me and then kicked out of the military. I am living well. She keeps squirrels hostage in her home and pretends to rehab them. How sad is that? I assumed most people ignored Libby's comments because they were clearly meant it to stir the pot. At least that is why I did. I don't think the silence in response to that post should be construed at acceptance.
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Post by gar on May 9, 2017 9:20:44 GMT
People who behave themselves do not get shot. It has NOTHING to do with racism. NOTHING. It has to do with being a law abiding citizen. Do you actually follow/read/watch/hear any mainstream news on a regular basis?? Shockingly ignorant. Really you should be embarrassed about how un and ill informed you are.
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Post by Zee on May 9, 2017 12:33:54 GMT
Again with the zg is racist because all lives matter? Because I dared to mention that apparently verboten topic on this thread?
Sigh. I guess I've been told to "take my barbies and go home".
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Post by luckyexwife on May 9, 2017 12:45:03 GMT
And really what does it matter? I didn't point out Libby's comments because I am 100% confident people like her are hopeless. No one else did. I wouldn't have challenged Georgiapeas thoughts either. She is an ugly old lady from NW Indiana and I left people like her exactly where they stood. Middle of a cornfield somewhere. My high school boyfriend is a car salesman. My ex husband was demoted for cheating on me and then kicked out of the military. I am living well. She keeps squirrels hostage in her home and pretends to rehab them. How sad is that? I assumed most people ignored Libby's comments because they were clearly meant it to stir the pot. At least that is why I did. I don't think the silence in response to that post should be construed at acceptance. Who is Libby?
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:06:21 GMT
Again with the zg is racist because all lives matter? Because I dared to mention that apparently verboten topic on this thread? Sigh. I guess I've been told to "take my barbies and go home". You can stay here and play if your Barbie has white skin. *laughs* And I am not calling you racist. I pointed out what your argument was and why most educated people don't use it anymore. Research. And anyway folks can read what you've wrote and decide that for themselves. I really don't care. Identifying racist people ON TAPE/VIDEO hasn't curbed the mistreatment of black people. Have you seen the videos of the Civil Rights March where the protestors are hosed? The image of the woman being dragged by two black men. Her face is bloody. The number of people who lined up to yell at Rudy Bridges when all she wanted was a damn education where did they go. Who did they raise. What professions did they fall into. Law enforcement perhaps?! I've always wondered with technology could we identify the people in those still photos or if anyone recognizes their mother. I am hoping the Smithsonian museum that recently opened will tackle this. The number of people allowed to just fall back into society. Have you seen the man who killed Jordan Edwards? Did you hear the story of the woman who was being charged with killing her service animal? Why can you not separate the race relations issue from this and realize the justice system needs an entire overhaul! It makes me wonder why people are defending such a thing? Is it because it's only affecting people who don't look like you?
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:25:09 GMT
I have so many mixed feelings regarding how so many of you just don't get it. If you stood in front of me pleading for me to care about something that directly impacts your day to day movements as a citizen of this country my silence, my hesitation to move makes me a monster. Really. Over the years I've thrown countless clicks and votes and silent wishes of support. You guys can't even pretend to give a fuck about what's going on. I really am at a loss.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:26:25 GMT
I understand to a point how people are upset, what I don't understand is the black community constantly blaming white people for their problems. I think people would be more willing to try and understand if it wasn't constantly a blame game. The blame game makes some people instantly go in defense mode. 93% of blacks are killed by other blacks but we never hear much about that. You guys can jump on this all you want but it's the truth. Some people on here mentioned how they have to tell their children about the mean white man but most of it is done by their own people. I don't know what happened in the 2 different shootings but if the cops are guilty then I hope they go to jail. But speak up for the rest of the 93% too. You know yourself when you are constantly blamed for something you had nothing to do with it makes most people defensive.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:34:55 GMT
Please think about what you really truly feel about black people and how it contributes to this. I have done just that for a very long time. How I feel is absolutely contrary to your opinion of peas that did not make the "correct comments" on this thread. One thing I have learned firsthand is how easy it is for some people of color to misinterpret very simple actions and/or words of people with whiter skin. They have been oversensitive and overreacted, separating themselves out from the larger community as if somehow, they were not being treated exactly the same way that everyone else was being treated. It hurts me when that has happened. How do you get someone to believe that you constantly mix names up and call someone by someone else's name - even your own kids - when they have decided that "Hey, all us black people look the same to you."? You can't. Anything you say from that point on only reinforces that belief in their eyes. I feel you've done the same thing here. What in the world can anyone say to you now that will allow you to think any differently? I hope you will notice that I haven't laid any blame here. It's understandable how these thoughts of racism are generalized to include many more people than it should. It's also time that you begin to realize that. Without having seen the videos, I can tell you that it sounds like both of these men died when they needn't have. The shooting in the car is especially horrific and I agree that Diamond Reynolds was heroic in streaming the incident live. And to think of that poor child.... I see a lifetime of carrying incredible pain ahead. ETA - I'm going to pull this out myself. Because it happens, as evidenced by these shootings. But it doesn't mean everyone is guilty.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:38:15 GMT
" Gina will tell you I've never shared anything personal and I haven't been here since May (posting history check) again to remove my humanity. To make it easy to not care. I didn't want anyone to come here and tell me how they really feltl -----_______-------------------------------------- This is bull. Gina and I rarely see eye to eye and don't particularly care for each other but I certainly know her well enough to know that she would not in anyway try to dehumanize you. The point is that you don't share anything with yourself yet you come here after several month in order to lash out at white people about an incident that took place this week. She was questioning your motivation for coming here now and for the sole purpose of appearing to berate people or demand they behave or think the way you feel they should. [/quote] I came here to berate people into not being racist assholes? Did it work? Will it ever work. Absolutely not.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:43:08 GMT
Olan - hello it's been awhile too bad it's this awful news story that's brought you back around i think i'm going to hold off judgment until more facts come out and even then, i'm gonna try to not judge because i don't put my life on the line every day and i don't struggle to survive in a less- than - hospitable environment gina Check back to see how many people supported this type of welcoming. I vowed for this to be the truth about me which is why I post what I post now. Thank Gina for my limited participation *thumbsup* when checking to see if Gina was right do start at page 34ish and see what my participation level was prior to that thread. I kept telling everyone to re-read the thread but didn't take my own advice. Do you see how quickly it moved to attacking me last July. Much of the same this time around.
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Post by tduby1 on May 9, 2017 13:44:19 GMT
I assumed most people ignored Libby's comments because they were clearly meant it to stir the pot. At least that is why I did. I don't think the silence in response to that post should be construed at acceptance. Who is Libby? A troll.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 13:52:17 GMT
When someone is scared and hurting responding the way you did reaffirms those feelings. Can you see that? I feel like I can share that with you since you already created this narrative where I smacked down every kind word offered to me. That isn't true. <I say this in the gentlest way I am able on this message board...> Olan, I understand that you are scared and hurting. I know what it's like to feel alone and afraid. I know all too well, in fact. It completely affects how you perceive the world around you and how you interpret what others say or do. Just in the bit you quoted from me, you didn't use the quote feature so that the specific word I italicized did not show the italicization and therefore the entire meaning shifted. That's a bit of what's happening here on this thread. Part of what's being said is missed. It is my hope that at some future moment you may be able to accept these words as they are intended: The world may be a little bit brighter than you can possibly see at the moment. People who you think can't possibly care do. There are people just reading this thread whose hearts are hurting and don't have words to say how they feel. Just because they don't reply doesn't mean they are callous. It's really hard to see that when you are in pain and it doesn't feel like others care at all.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:09:19 GMT
they actually did catch him he was pulled over in Ballwin and shot the cop in the neck Olan i am not sure if anything we/i say could convince you that it bothers me/us as well we don't have the same perspective because we don't have the same history it feels like you are expecting me/us to fall short gina That's my impression, too. over the years, I'm left with the impression that olan blames all white people for everything that's wrong in her world, and while I understand being angry, sad and all kinds of emotions when something like this happens (and there's no denying there are too many gun related deaths in your country, and that includes those killed by the police), she comes off as being so full of hatred towards those who have another colour on their skin that it completely shuts down any meaningful argument. I never pull out the I have white friends argument but seriously no one views me the way this pea does. I don't hate white people. I find it more challenging than say 2 years ago to see the good but I stretch myself everyday to see that despite what's happening right now or what's happened in the past people who DON'T look like me are just as invested in a world where a black kid can go to a party with alcohol and get yelled at by his parents as I am. I can't begin to tell you how hard this is and the amount of counseling black people are undergoing to simply have joy. I grew up in a really odd place for race relations. I can't tell you the number of times I encountered some crotchety old white person. She won't admit being from NW Indianan but she is. Did I share the time I got punched in the face as I came to the aid of a white woman seizing in her lawn. I was wet (she was watering her lawn) bloody and had he had a gun in his garage I could have been dead. The police arrived and asked me my date of birth and name. Racist husband got an attaboy. My black friends all have stories like these...that one is my go to for laughs. I have others I don't share because it reminds me I tolerated abuse. You've dismissed me as angry dismissive and accusatory because then you don't have to think about what adjectives go behind your name. I see you.
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Post by freebird on May 9, 2017 14:13:48 GMT
This thread in summed in one graphic.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:17:05 GMT
This thread in summed in one graphic. You voted for 45. You also think wearing an American flag wedding dress and never trimming your split ends make you patriotic. I thought we were ignoring each other?
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Post by freebird on May 9, 2017 14:19:31 GMT
No, you promised you were putting me on ignore. So, you're saying you're a liar. LOL.
And since I'm here, I meant to say, that's a photo of you actually. Good luck!
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:21:24 GMT
No, you promised you were putting me on ignore. So, you're saying you're a liar. LOL. And since I'm here, I meant to say, that's a photo of you actually. Good luck! I never put anyone on ignore or made a promise to. I've never been able to figure it out. Like I told Gina quote me. Our interactions are limited and recent should be an easy one. I am going to break to get some work done.
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Post by freebird on May 9, 2017 14:25:47 GMT
*pats you on your wee little noggin* Ok hunny.
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Post by ginacivey on May 9, 2017 14:28:37 GMT
That's my impression, too. over the years, I'm left with the impression that olan blames all white people for everything that's wrong in her world, and while I understand being angry, sad and all kinds of emotions when something like this happens (and there's no denying there are too many gun related deaths in your country, and that includes those killed by the police), she comes off as being so full of hatred towards those who have another colour on their skin that it completely shuts down any meaningful argument. I never pull out the I have white friends argument but seriously no one views me the way this pea does. I don't hate white people. I find it more challenging than say 2 years ago to see the good but I stretch myself everyday to see that despite what's happening right now or what's happened in the past people who DON'T look like me are just as invested in a world where a black kid can go to a party with alcohol and get yelled at by his parents as I am. I can't begin to tell you how hard this is and the amount of counseling black people are undergoing to simply have joy. I grew up in a really odd place for race relations. I can't tell you the number of times I encountered some crotchety old white person. She won't admit being from NW Indianan but she is. Did I share the time I got punched in the face as I came to the aid of a white woman seizing in her lawn. I was wet (she was watering her lawn) bloody and had he had a gun in his garage I could have been dead. The police arrived and asked me my date of birth and name. Racist husband got an attaboy. My black friends all have stories like these...that one is my go to for laughs. I have others I don't share because it reminds me I tolerated abuse. You've dismissed me as angry dismissive and accusatory because then you don't have to think about what adjectives go behind your name. I see you. which pea? me or lauren? i believe i've said the exact same thing (obviously substitue black for white) - yet you ignored that and continued to imply that i am racist
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Post by ginacivey on May 9, 2017 14:32:29 GMT
Like I told Gina quote me. Our interactions are limited and recent should be an easy one. nice....quote me or it didn't happen that's bullshit you'll just delete what you don't want out there
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:36:41 GMT
I never pull out the I have white friends argument but seriously no one views me the way this pea does. I don't hate white people. I find it more challenging than say 2 years ago to see the good but I stretch myself everyday to see that despite what's happening right now or what's happened in the past people who DON'T look like me are just as invested in a world where a black kid can go to a party with alcohol and get yelled at by his parents as I am. I can't begin to tell you how hard this is and the amount of counseling black people are undergoing to simply have joy. I grew up in a really odd place for race relations. I can't tell you the number of times I encountered some crotchety old white person. She won't admit being from NW Indianan but she is. Did I share the time I got punched in the face as I came to the aid of a white woman seizing in her lawn. I was wet (she was watering her lawn) bloody and had he had a gun in his garage I could have been dead. The police arrived and asked me my date of birth and name. Racist husband got an attaboy. My black friends all have stories like these...that one is my go to for laughs. I have others I don't share because it reminds me I tolerated abuse. You've dismissed me as angry dismissive and accusatory because then you don't have to think about what adjectives go behind your name. I see you. which pea? me or lauren? i believe i've said the exact same thing (obviously substitue black for white) - yet you ignored that and continued to imply that i am racist I quoted the pea I was referencing. Why would you think I was addressing you. Gina I don't care if you have white or black friends. I don't care if you are a good human being. I don't care what you think of my participation here. I don't even care to watch you try and produce these quotes that should "only take a min to find". Ive asked that you limit your interactions with me if at all possible you've chosen not to. Thats fine too.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:40:25 GMT
Like I told Gina quote me. Our interactions are limited and recent should be an easy one. nice....quote me or it didn't happen that's bullshit you'll just delete what you don't want out there Quote me or stop lying on my name. You could do neither. I still wouldn't care. I've had no problem tagging you so your posting history is visible for all to see. I've had no problems quoting you are liking the things you've said to me in the past. Its only you who are leveling accusations but providing no proof. The bandwagon has already started and yep you guessed it....predictable. This happened last year with you at the helm. You've still yet to acknowledge that you were wrong about it being awhile between my postings and that I only came back to share awful news. As if I have to qualify my participation to you. too bad it's this awful news story that's brought you back around i think i'm going to hold off judgment until more facts come out and even then, i'm gonna try to not judge because i don't put my life on the line every day and i don't struggle to survive in a less- than - hospitable environment Gina
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Post by ginacivey on May 9, 2017 14:41:31 GMT
if you want me to limit MY interactions with you
why - in your spiral - are you quoting me?
three four times in the last hour you've typed my name or quoted me
if you want no interaction
quit interacting
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Post by freebird on May 9, 2017 14:46:35 GMT
if you want me to limit MY interactions with you why - in your spiral - are you quoting me? three four times in the last hour you've typed my name or quoted me if you want no interaction quit interacting BUTTTTTT.... You (a white chick) would get the last word! NOooooooOooooOoOOoOooooo.
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Post by Olan on May 9, 2017 14:48:15 GMT
if you want me to limit MY interactions with you why - in your spiral - are you quoting me? three four times in the last hour you've typed my name or quoted me if you want no interaction quit interacting I'm quoting you because you said it. You aren't quoting me because you can't. Not that it really matters. I'm only Olan on this computer. I just want to illustrate the type of response this thread received. You know for future generations. But I really must be taking a short break while I tend to some household chores. I just needed to find a thread so I can post an informative credible article. Edit: You followed me over to that thread and participated in a social experiment you were not even aware of. Please have a look at those links.
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