eastcoastpea
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Post by eastcoastpea on Jul 30, 2016 0:21:58 GMT
Today's the first I've seen your post. Best wishes for a happy, healthy child.
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Post by PNWMom on Jul 30, 2016 18:19:37 GMT
Yes, we did both PGS testing (looking for chromosome issues--this is where we learned the gender), and PGD (looking for my BRCA mutation, so we could choose an embryo that did NOT have my mutation). We ended up with a single embryo that was chromosomally normal, and we transferred her knowing that she DOES have a BRCA mutation. My heart is at peace about that because I know we did everything humanly possible to prevent passing the mutation on. It is either this girl or no biological child for me. Holy shit, we're supposed to be happy about your pregnancy? How fucking selfish of you to implant an embryo that if born, has an 85% chance of getting breast cancer! You might as well chop off her breasts as soon as they are developed. The amount of well-wishers on this thread is disgusting. "It's either this girl or no biological child for me" I think if there is a God, he was trying to tell you that you shouldn't have a biological child. And yet here we go. I wish your DD the best. You, not so much. ETA: oops. My bad. It's an 88% chance. I just read your other thread on this issue. You had all sorts of testing done to "weed out" the embryos with genetic issues. When this was the last embryo left, you said fuck it. You said you will build the family that you want to have. You and your husband and your doctors are so fucking irresponsible. This is on the level of Octomom. It's truly mind-boggling that anyone thinks this is a good idea. But hey, I never thought anyone would vote for Trump either. I'm sure you'll be thrilled to hear that my IVF was unsuccessful and I will never have a biological child. I have been on 2Peas/refugees for 15 years now and your post was the single most hateful thing I have ever come across. Thanks for that
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Post by Linda on Jul 30, 2016 18:21:40 GMT
PNWMom - I'm so sorry that your IVF was unsuccessful. (((((Hugs)))) and prayers for you and your husband as you mourn the loss of what might have been.
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Post by marmargirl on Jul 30, 2016 18:23:09 GMT
I am so sorry.
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 30, 2016 18:23:33 GMT
Wow Yubon- I always knew you were a bitch but fuck! Seriously. PNWMom I'm so sorry it was unsuccessful. no chance of trying down the line? Or just enjoying being with DH and a happy accident?
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purplebee
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Post by purplebee on Jul 30, 2016 18:31:26 GMT
So sad to hear this latest news, sending hugs and prayers to you and Dh.
Yubon, do you have no self-control at all? Wow....
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Post by miominmio on Jul 30, 2016 18:31:45 GMT
PNWMom , as someone who also struggled with (secondary) infertility, I understand the sadness and pain. Be gentle with yourself.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 30, 2016 18:32:15 GMT
I'm so sorry, alyca. Big hugs to you. I know it's hard, but please don't let those awful comments words hurt you. When people are vicious and hateful like that, it's often a reflection of self-hate. There is no way that a person coming from a good place could act that way.
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Post by Outspoken on Jul 30, 2016 18:33:40 GMT
PNWMomI am sorry for your loss. May God grant you peace and comfort during your time of grief.
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mimima
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Post by mimima on Jul 30, 2016 18:35:55 GMT
I'm so sorry Alyca.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Jul 30, 2016 18:38:20 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss.
I wish you healing and hope that you and your husband will find a way to build a family, even if it is different than the one you envisioned. Take care of yourself and take time to mourn and grieve.
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uksue
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Post by uksue on Jul 30, 2016 18:42:31 GMT
My heart goes out to you, Alyca. I cannot imagine how heartbroken you are.
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Post by KelleeM on Jul 30, 2016 18:45:37 GMT
Oh PNWMom...I'm so sad for you and your husband. I am so sorry for your loss.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 30, 2016 18:51:35 GMT
PNWMom I'm so sorry too. I have 7 unsuccessful IVFs in my history - I know how you're feeling right now and there are no words that will help. Wishing you hugs, prayers and strength.
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Nink
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Post by Nink on Jul 30, 2016 18:51:44 GMT
I'm so sorry Alyca
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Post by scrappysurfer on Jul 30, 2016 18:54:26 GMT
I am so sorry.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 30, 2016 18:54:36 GMT
I'm so sorry.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 30, 2016 19:01:55 GMT
PNWMom I am so very sorry. Do not let Yubon get in your head. That was a terrible thing she said to you.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 30, 2016 19:07:57 GMT
PNWMom I'm so sorry your IVF was unsuccessful. Super big (((hugs))) Be gentle and kind with yourself.
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Post by blarneygirl on Jul 30, 2016 19:08:42 GMT
Oh, my. I'm so very sorry for your loss. I can only imagine your devastation.
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zookeeper
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 30, 2016 19:25:08 GMT
Yubon, do you have no self-control at all? Wow.... She never has and she never will. Why does she keep getting passes on her abominable behavior? Would any of you be friends in the real world with this type of person? She has clearly shown year after year that she has no heart and no soul. Yes...she is good to animals. Big effing deal when she treats humans with such disdain. She carefully chooses her words to reach the maximum cutting effect to your heart. To alyca...I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. My heart aches for you and your husband. I hope that after you have had time to heal that you consider adoption. What a wonderful heart you have to be able to share with a child who is alone in this world.
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gramma
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Post by gramma on Jul 30, 2016 19:29:37 GMT
Holy shit, we're supposed to be happy about your pregnancy? How fucking selfish of you to implant an embryo that if born, has an 85% chance of getting breast cancer! You might as well chop off her breasts as soon as they are developed. The amount of well-wishers on this thread is disgusting. "It's either this girl or no biological child for me" I think if there is a God, he was trying to tell you that you shouldn't have a biological child. And yet here we go. I wish your DD the best. You, not so much. ETA: oops. My bad. It's an 88% chance. I just read your other thread on this issue. You had all sorts of testing done to "weed out" the embryos with genetic issues. When this was the last embryo left, you said fuck it. You said you will build the family that you want to have. You and your husband and your doctors are so fucking irresponsible. This is on the level of Octomom. It's truly mind-boggling that anyone thinks this is a good idea. But hey, I never thought anyone would vote for Trump either. I'm sure you'll be thrilled to hear that my IVF was unsuccessful and I will never have a biological child. I have been on 2Peas/refugees for 15 years now and your post was the single most hateful thing I have ever come across. Thanks for that For God's sake - why do you have to be so damned mean? Didn't anyone ever teach you "If you can't say something nice, keep you mouth shut" - I mean really. This young woman so badly wants a child and you spit in her face? I don't get it. This sort of post is what keeps me from commenting here. Just plain mean - mean - mean! No reason for it.
OP - I am so sorry for your pain.
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valleyview
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Post by valleyview on Jul 30, 2016 19:41:35 GMT
PNWMom, I am so sorry to read the hateful post, but more sorry to read your sad update. Hugs.
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Post by PNWMom on Jul 30, 2016 19:46:54 GMT
On the one hand, I don't owe anyone any explanations. On the other hand, though, maybe a drop of education will find it's way into the asshole making the appallingly judge-y statements.
I have a BRCA mutation. I found it because I had cancer at 35. I had breast cancer. I consider any cancer that doesn't kill you to be a pretty 'good' cancer, but the cancer *I* got was actually pretty bad. Very fast growing, and without the hormone markers typically found in breast cancers, that helps guide which chemo you can use to kill it (if you need chemo at all). I had to do 20 rounds of 3 different chemos. One of which is nicknamed 'red death', because it makes your body fluids bright reddish orange, and it kills your heart over time (they keep a very close look and there is a specific lifetime limit to how many doses you can get--I made it up to 25%). I had bilateral mastectomies, which showed one large tumor (the one I could feel, that made me go get a mammogram), one smaller one in my armpit, and a 4x5cm field of tiny tumor too numerous to count. Basically, a little grenade waiting to explode.
Not the highlight of my life, but I got through it just fine. Other than my ovaries getting killed in the process, I have zero ongoing issues. I allowed cancer to consume my year (2013), but it does not define my life. I am happy. I am healthy. I am living a great life. I have a wonderful husband, a great job. I live in a beautiful city (Seattle); own my own home and am set to retire early at 59 1/2 and travel the world with my husband.
I am pretty happy that I exist. With or without my BRCA mutation.
I have 2 sisters. One has my BRCA mutation. One has a different BRCA mutation (we won the genetic lottery--extraordinarily uncommon, but both of my parents had BRCA mutations in their families). My sisters have 4 kids between them. They may or may not have passed on this BRCA mutation. Won't know until the kids are tested at age 25.
I have one brother. He has not been tested for BRCA mutations. He has three little girls. They may or may not have BRCA mutations.
My siblings and I are all happy to be here. My mom has my BRCA mutation. She is 61. She never would have known about this mutation except that I ended up with cancer. She is pretty happy to exist--BRCA mutation or not. Her 6 brothers may or may not have BRCA mutations. Her mother or father have BRCA mutations. My grandmother is 89. No idea if she has a mutation or not (50/50 chance). She is pretty happy to exist.
Angelina Jolie has a BRCA1 mutation, just like me. She has biological children. They may have BRCA mutations. There are literally tens of thousands (if not more) of people out there with BRCA mutations. Many will get breast cancer or ovarian cancer. This is why it is important to be tested if you have a strong breast cancer history in your family. If you *know* you have a mutation, you can be monitored more closely.
I had cancer. I had bad cancer. I had to have the biggest surgery and the most intense chemo to get through my cancer. But it was OK. It was a bunch of things I had to do to stay healthy, and here I am on the other side. Cancer is scary when you don't know what you are up against. But when you catch it early, breast cancer is extraordinarily treatable most of the time. I am modelling that for my nieces. For my sisters. They saw me handle the entirety of cancer with grace and strength. I worked about half-time during my chemo (I am an RN). I celebrated the women in my family with a henna party to decorate my head after I lost my hair (they had hands/feet done). I showed them that cancer is not as scary as it sounds, and that you *can* get through it. I never vomited. I never called in sick to work (other than the scheduled time off I had for chemo). I didn't let fear rule my life. I went on an Alaskan cruise 3 days after my last chemo.
My sister with the BRCA1 mutation chose to have prophylactic mastectomies and ovary removal (she was 39). She was very open with her daughters that this was *her* choice in how to handle her known BRCA mutation.
My mother and other sister with a BRCA2 mutation have chosen to do monitoring. They get yearly mammograms, and actually do the monthly self exams we are all supposed to be doing. The mammograms are alternated with a breast MRI, because my family has really dense breasts that aren't seen as well on mammograms as most women. If one of them develops breast cancer, it will be caught early.
We are all modelling how to handle BRCA and/or cancer. My nieces are 10, 12 and 12. If and when they find out they have BRCA mutations, and if/when they have breast cancer, they will have a variety of strong women who have given them examples of how to deal with things. They will be strong and they will be OK. They will be prepared.
So. For the uninformed, idiotic troll who wished death on my embryo and accused me of all sorts of things: 1. Fuck you. 2. There is no god. Science took away my ovarian function, and science gives me a chance to have a baby anyway. My sister who still has her ovaries is in the process of donating eggs so I can do another round of IVF.
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Post by peasquared on Jul 30, 2016 19:48:02 GMT
((((HUGS))))
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Post by PNWMom on Jul 30, 2016 19:51:00 GMT
(and thank you to all who had supportive things to say or at the very least didn't call me Octomom )
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Post by katybee on Jul 30, 2016 19:53:18 GMT
You and your husband and your doctors are so fucking irresponsible. This is on the level of Octomom. It's truly mind-boggling that anyone thinks this is a good idea. But hey, I never thought anyone would vote for Trump either. Thats's funny. I figured you would love Trump. Cause you have hateful, verbal diarrhea – just like he does. As a matter of fact, I am pretty sure that of you and Donald Trump had a baby, it would be the antichrist.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jul 30, 2016 19:53:19 GMT
I knew who that nasty post was before even reading the name. What a bitch. Someone is bitter and thinks she is better by being mean to everyone. Such a life!
OP-I am so sorry that your IVF didn't work. We went through infertility treatments and I know how heart breaking it is. You and your husband are in my thoughts. Be kind to each other.
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Post by PNWMom on Jul 30, 2016 19:58:22 GMT
Also, I feel like I need to apologize to ~Lauren~ . In the past, I have gotten her and Yubon mixed up in my head and I now see that there is actually a glaring difference between them (one is an outspoken woman with strong opinions; one is....... an offensive word I don't actually feel comfortable typing). Sorry, Lauren.....it won't happen again =)
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Post by katybee on Jul 30, 2016 20:00:49 GMT
(and thank you to all who had supportive things to say or at the very least didn't call me Octomom ) I'm so sorry for your loss. I know 2 different people who had success round 2. Best wishes!
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