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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:24:47 GMT
Not wanting to be gender biased or politically incorrect, I am incurably curious. Where does she get her pants suits? Do they really cost $12,000? How many does she have? Do we know anyone who dresses like her? I'm all for having a woman president, but would be more fun if her wardrobe was a little more interesting.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jul 26, 2016 17:27:57 GMT
Only if we talk about Trump's wardrobe. Do you think he has a closet of identical suits and ties? Actually, I am not paying attention to wardrobe much. Too distracted by the orange glow.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 26, 2016 17:28:16 GMT
I think you are talking about the 12,000 Armani jacket. She didn't pay that for it. That is was it retailed for though. And yes, big name designers cost that much. I think she dresses pretty much like any 50+ age women in government. She's not as young or as fit as Michelle Obama. It doesn't bother me. Different body shape, age and styles.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 26, 2016 17:28:21 GMT
Ugh.
Do you discuss Trump's wardrobe? Would it be more exciting if he wore something other than neutral pantsuits?
Or is wardrobe only relevant because she's a woman?
It *is* sexist because you are only worrying about her wardrobe because she's a woman.
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Post by Judy26 on Jul 26, 2016 17:31:42 GMT
I imagine that she wears what is comfortable and appropriate for traveling quickly from one appointment to another. I personally am more concerned with her ideas and plans for the future than what she wears. Neither she nor Mr. Trump are fashion icons and neither should be judged on something so frivolous.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 26, 2016 17:32:18 GMT
I think you are talking about the 12,000 Armani jacket. She didn't pay that for it. That is was it retailed for though. And yes, big name designers cost that much. I think she dresses pretty much like any 50+ age women in government. She's not as young or as fit as Michelle Obama. It doesn't bother me. Different body shape, age and styles. If by using a designer that charges roughly $1,400 per pantsuit you mean "any 50+ age women in government", then sure.
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Post by MerryMom on Jul 26, 2016 17:35:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:37:05 GMT
If by using a designer that charges roughly $1,400 per pantsuit you mean "any 50+ age women in government", then sure. Sorry, I was trying to delete all the extra inside quotes and it ended up looking weird, LOL. My husband's suits cost that much. I don't see a problem with a $1400 pantsuit. Or with Trump's (probably) more expensive suits. They are both in the public eye and need to look polished. Both their clothes are a non issue for me. ETA: Trying to fix it so I'm quoting the right person.
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Post by marianne on Jul 26, 2016 17:38:13 GMT
As I recall, when her husband was elected president, she was ridiculed unmercifully for her wardrobe and, when they walked down PA avenue for the inaugural parade, her "short, stubby" legs. It was outrageous. At any rate, I don't blame her for sticking to pantsuits...what's to criticize there? And, as others have said, her wardrobe has nothing to do with her qualifications, or lack thereof. I think she dresses appopriately for a professional woman her age.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 26, 2016 17:41:20 GMT
I have no doubt there is a stylist assisting her with all of her wardrobe and they are dressing her to cover any flaws (you know the one's we all have). She specifically wears the longer jackets, no doubt to cover hips and waist.
I remember when Sarah Palin was put on the ticket with John McCain years ago - she was instantly rushed into the RNC's stylist and fitted with all kinds of clothes. There was some big scandal about whether she should return the clothes or not. Not remembering all the details -but there is some careful thought about what they wear during the election season.
Hillary has been wearing pantsuits for sometime...not just during this election.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:42:05 GMT
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 26, 2016 17:42:58 GMT
I have no problem with her wearing pants suits- just get them tailored better-many times they look way too big.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 26, 2016 17:43:14 GMT
In fairness Trump's looks have been discussed here. The orange glow, his hair. So it's not like only Hillary's personal looks are being discussed.
Let's face it neither of them are attractive human beings but they aren't running in a beauty contest so it really shouldn't matter. However, they appear to be judged equally. Up until this post I would have actually said that Trump's personal look was being judged more than Hillary.
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 26, 2016 17:44:13 GMT
I think you are talking about the 12,000 Armani jacket. She didn't pay that for it. That is was it retailed for though. And yes, big name designers cost that much. I think she dresses pretty much like any 50+ age women in government. She's not as young or as fit as Michelle Obama. It doesn't bother me. Different body shape, age and styles. If by using a designer that charges roughly $1,400 per pantsuit you mean "any 50+ age women in government", then sure. Any woman in high level government. I think at her level $1400 for a pant suit is very reasonable. She needs to look professional. If she wore an off the rack JC Penny's suit we'd be tearing her apart for dressing like a pauper and not taking her role in government seriously.
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Post by karen on Jul 26, 2016 17:45:39 GMT
Not wanting to be gender biased or politically incorrect, I am incurably curious. Where does she get her pants suits? Do they really cost $12,000? How many does she have? Do we know anyone who dresses like her? I'm all for having a woman president, but would be more fun if her wardrobe was a little more interesting. I agree that her wardrobe is dull. I have no idea how much she pays for each one, but I'm sure she can afford it. I don't think comparing them to a man's suit is fair because that is what male politicians usually wear. Women have more choices when it comes to clothes. It would be nice if she mixed it up a bit.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 26, 2016 17:45:55 GMT
There was specifically a jacket everyone has been making a fuss about. Comparing her 12,000 Armani Jacket to Ivanka's 138$ dress. That was done by her clothing line, and will most likely bring in over a million dollars after she wore it I am sure.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 26, 2016 17:47:40 GMT
If by using a designer that charges roughly $1,400 per pantsuit you mean "any 50+ age women in government", then sure. Any woman in high level government. I think at her level $1400 for a pant suit is very reasonable. She needs to look professional. If she wore an off the rack JC Penny's suit we'd be tearing her apart for dressing like a pauper and not taking her role in government seriously. High level government (or women in positions similar to Clinton's), yes. "any 50+ age women in government", no. And honestly, I think she looks fine and I don't have any beef with the cost of her garments. My problem comes from others trying to normalize this kind of expenditure as "ya, ALL women that age do this" when it's really just not true.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 17:47:55 GMT
I think she should be comfortable, and if pansuits do it for her, then go for it.
But the longer jackets on the pantsuits do make her look a bit frumpy. They're like tunics instead of jackets.
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 26, 2016 17:53:19 GMT
Any woman in high level government. I think at her level $1400 for a pant suit is very reasonable. She needs to look professional. If she wore an off the rack JC Penny's suit we'd be tearing her apart for dressing like a pauper and not taking her role in government seriously. High level government (or women in positions similar to Clinton's), yes. "any 50+ age women in government", no. And honestly, I think she looks fine and I don't have any beef with the cost of her garments. My problem comes from others trying to normalize this kind of expenditure as "ya, ALL women that age do this" when it's really just not true. True. I have very successful friends who work in government and they probably have one or two suits that cost, at most, $500. For the record, I have never paid any attention to what politicians wear. I suppose if they looked disheveled it would catch my eye, but aside from that? Not even on my radar.
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 26, 2016 17:55:11 GMT
Not wanting to be gender biased or politically incorrect Also, usually when you have to qualify a statement, you're being whatever it is you claim to not want to be.
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Post by compwalla on Jul 26, 2016 17:57:45 GMT
Unless she is dressing in a bikini or a tube top on the campaign trail, her wardrobe choice is irrelevant. My own mother was an over-50 woman in government and rocked the pantsuit like there was no tomorrow. I don't know how much she paid for each pantsuit but they weren't cheap. She earned a healthy six-figure income and could afford to dress well and professionally so she did.
Seriously. Can we please stfu about her pantsuits, hairstyle, wrinkles, and every other thing that has nothing to do with her experience or ability to govern?
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 26, 2016 18:01:11 GMT
Unless she is dressing in a bikini or a tube top on the campaign trail Thank you so much for THAT visual.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 26, 2016 18:01:33 GMT
She cannot win when it comes to this. If she spends too much or wears something too flashy or extravagant, she's out of touch. If she wears something inexpensive, she's pandering or being cheap.
Do I LOVE her style? No. She's no style icon, really. But, she's dressed this way for years. It is like Diane Keaton and turtlenecks. She wears what makes her feel comfortable so she can focus on DOING HER JOB.
Unfortunately, people care more about looks than substance, and this is clearly no exception.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 26, 2016 18:04:37 GMT
On occasion, I have thought that a couple of her jacket tops are similar to Dr Evils jacket. I do not care what she wears. I don't care what trump wears. I am waiting for either of them to lay out some plans of action. They can wear whatever the hell they want.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jul 26, 2016 18:06:35 GMT
Any woman in high level government. I think at her level $1400 for a pant suit is very reasonable. She needs to look professional. If she wore an off the rack JC Penny's suit we'd be tearing her apart for dressing like a pauper and not taking her role in government seriously. High level government (or women in positions similar to Clinton's), yes. "any 50+ age women in government", no. And honestly, I think she looks fine and I don't have any beef with the cost of her garments. My problem comes from others trying to normalize this kind of expenditure as "ya, ALL women that age do this" when it's really just not true. I don't think the comment you are referring to was meant literally. It meant that "any 50+ age woman in government" might wear something stylistically similar, not necessarily the exact same clothes and price tags.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jul 26, 2016 18:10:53 GMT
I read the reviews on that dress (on the site where her clothing is sold) and they were not generally positive reviews. Issues with the fabric, the fit, the general cheapness. So perhaps you get what you pay for in this comparison.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 26, 2016 18:14:45 GMT
I'll admit that I am touchy about this topic. Not at you, OP, because I'm sure that you are just curious. But females politicians, especially Hillary, are judged constantly by their hair, their clothes, their body, and their voice. In 08, ,I remember that the style editor of the WaPo wrote an article about Hillary's pantsuits. And don't get me started on the comments about her laugh! It is true that Trump's hair and orange glow have been a frequent topic, but mainly because they are so unusual. Most male pols are not subjected to discussions about their looks, although there are always exceptions. OP, if you are curious about her wardrobe, Google will give you more information than you ever wanted.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 26, 2016 18:21:43 GMT
I just looked up the "Ivanka dress" and it looks like her clothes are made out of the country. Wonder if her business will be subjected to the same tax that Donald thinks will help to bring business back to the US?
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Post by jackie on Jul 26, 2016 18:22:15 GMT
In fairness Trump's looks have been discussed here. The orange glow, his hair. So it's not like only Hillary's personal looks are being discussed. Let's face it neither of them are attractive human beings but they aren't running in a beauty contest so it really shouldn't matter. However, they appear to be judged equally. Up until this post I would have actually said that Trump's personal look was being judged more than Hillary. She isn't an attractive human being? Agree we shouldn't concern ourselves with this, but I don't even understand it. I've heard her referred to as unattractive or called a beast and I don't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 18:22:58 GMT
I don't care a bit what HRC wears. What I want to know is-how big is her closet? I don't recall seeing her repeat an outfit. And WHO told Donald Trump to wear that awful makeup? Can't he find a Mary Kay lady?
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