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Post by peasapie on Nov 29, 2016 19:31:33 GMT
My husband fought for that flag...and back to the Revolutionary war we have family that fought for it, right up to even now with family in service...it should be illegal ... oh and before any of you slam me this is what " I " think...this has nothing to do with Trump...it has everything to do with honor and accountability for the ones who fought for it, came back broken and died for it, past, present and future... Of course it is disturbing and it feels wrong. We are a family of US Marines here - WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War. None of us like to see the flag burned. I think that the fact the man is so extreme in his statements is what makes so many of us uncomfortable. It's scary to have someone like that in charge of our future. SaveSave |
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Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil".  |
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Post by Gennifer on Nov 29, 2016 19:36:09 GMT
Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil". Lauren, you're being ridiculous. ETA: And, on a personal note, you're really ruining Alan Rickman for me. |
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Post by pyccku on Nov 29, 2016 19:40:44 GMT
So really, what's the big story today? I'm thinking that he didn't expect as much blowback from the tweets about the millions of illegal voters as he got, so the flag thing is supposed to distract us.
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Nov 29, 2016 19:47:10 GMT
My husband fought for that flag...and back to the Revolutionary war we have family that fought for it, right up to even now with family in service...it should be illegal ... oh and before any of you slam me this is what " I " think...this has nothing to do with Trump...it has everything to do with honor aco untability for the ones who fought for it, came back broken and died for it, past, present and future... A slippery slope. Friends of mine in Cuba couldn't even utter the name of Castro without fear of arrest. |
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 29, 2016 19:48:53 GMT
Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil". Lauren, you're being ridiculous. ETA: And, on a personal note, you're really ruining Alan Rickman for me. Ditto that. |
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 29, 2016 19:52:21 GMT
Hillary cosponsored a bill called the Flag Protection Act in 2005. Maybe DT is trying to get Dem support? Flag Protection Act ; " The law would have prohibited burning or otherwise destroying and damaging the US flag with the primary purpose of intimidation or inciting immediate violence or for the act of terrorism. It called for a punishment of no more than one year in prison and a fine of no more than $100,000; unless that flag was property of the United States Government, in which case the penalty would be a fine of not more than $250,000, not more than two years in prison, or both" I know you want itA lawmaker sponsoring a bill to get a law made is a bit different then the Pres Elect suggesting Americans lose their citizenship for an act the Supreme Court has ruled constitutionally protected free speech. And if Pres Elect Trump admitting to sexual assault years ago doesn't matter, then neither does anything former Sec of State or Senator Clinton did. |
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Nov 29, 2016 19:57:25 GMT
I think he's entitled to his opinion. I also think if the man tweeted "Today is Tuesday" people would be "outraged". Now, Lauren. You know you're always quick to point out others' use of hyperbole.  |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:00:03 GMT
Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil". Lauren, you're being ridiculous. ETA: And, on a personal note, you're really ruining Alan Rickman for me. Lighten up, Gen, I'm teasing. I've always know Pierkiss has no sense of humor but I'm surprised at you. Gulfcoastgurl got it. |
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 29, 2016 20:01:22 GMT
Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil". If he was treating the wrong day of the week repeatedly, I'd be concerned for his mental health and the fate of the nation. And if he was suggesting people lose citizenship for arguing or protesting about the day of the week, I'd still be gravely concerned. |
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Post by Anita on Nov 29, 2016 20:11:57 GMT
I think he's entitled to his opinion. I also think if the man tweeted "Today is Tuesday" people would be "outraged". Only because he would wait until Thursday to tweet it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 20:15:26 GMT
You know, I too think he is an incredibly unstable person. However, what he says does not push any of my buttons even if I disagree with what he says. I just roll my eyes. He is so dramatic with his wording and his tantrums. And then he back peddles some of what he's said. I just don't find everything he says as horrifying as it actually sounds when he says it. I refuse to get all worked up every single time he says something stupid.
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Post by scorpeao on Nov 29, 2016 20:18:54 GMT
It's official, my head is going to implode soon. /photo/2  YOU ARE SHITTING ME?  I can't even wrap my head around how this buffoon got elected. And, before anyone says they had to choose the lesser of two evils. Y'all could've nominated someone different back in the primaries. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:20:03 GMT
And y'll could've given us a better option than Hillary. There are many people I know who would have voted Democrat had y'all not picked her.
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Post by schizo319 on Nov 29, 2016 20:20:48 GMT
Since you just keep asking and asking and asking! No, I'm not happy at all with him and his stupid tweets, nor him acting like a child. That's his thing and I'm willing to roll my eyes about it and still continue to hope that our checks and balances hold strong and his presidency will result in some positive change. Thanks for answering this. I didn't ask the question, but I have wondered about it and I appreciate your honesty. I wish more people had the courage to admit that they aren't thrilled with his childish behavior - I think that could do a lot to heal the divide. But as long as we keep looking down our collective noses at "those" people (Trump voters), reasonable people will remain quiet about what they really think and we'll all continue feeling like the entire world has gone mad.
As far as flag burning goes, I think it should be legal. Clearly, the person burning the flag doesn't have the same deep abiding respect for it that others do - we can't FORCE outward displays of loyalty to our country unless we want to take a page out of North Korea's playbook. If we want to remain the "land of the free", then we're going to have to put up with people doing things we don't agree with...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 29, 2016 20:23:14 GMT
Oh now, we'd hear "he's tweeted the day of the week. What's he trying hide? What's he doing? He's so evil". And I don't think those who would say that/ask those questions , would be wrong!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 20:24:24 GMT
And y'll could've given us a better option than Hillary. There are many people I know who would have voted Democrat had y'all not picked her. Lauren, honest inquiry. Are these people Republicans or Democrats? I ask because I have a lot of friends who were hesitant to vote for Trump but did so because of Hillary. However, they are mostly Republicans and I couldn't imagine them voting for a Democrat no matter who it was. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:24:36 GMT
Well for all our two peas dramaticists, in 2005, Hillary co-sponsored the Flag Protection Act which, while it did not call for the stripping of citizenship, made flag burning with the intent to incite violence or disturb the peace punishable by a year in jail and a $100,000 fine. Trump just spoke of it; Hillary actually tried to legislate about it.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:25:42 GMT
And y'll could've given us a better option than Hillary. There are many people I know who would have voted Democrat had y'all not picked her. Lauren, honest inquiry. Are these people Republicans or Democrats? I ask because I have a lot of friends who were hesitant to vote for Trump but did so because of Hillary. However, they are mostly Republicans and I couldn't imagine them voting for a Democrat no matter who it was. The majority of my friends are Republicans. Had the Dems put up a moderate Democrat rather than Hillary they would have strongly considered crossing party lines this election, including me. We spoke about it often. But even know, we all consider Trump a better alternative than Clinton. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 20:31:32 GMT
Lauren, honest inquiry. Are these people Republicans or Democrats? I ask because I have a lot of friends who were hesitant to vote for Trump but did so because of Hillary. However, they are mostly Republicans and I couldn't imagine them voting for a Democrat no matter who it was. The majority of my friends are Republicans. Had the Dems put up a moderate Democrat rather than Hillary they would have strongly considered crossing party lines this election, including me. We spoke about it often. But even know, we all consider Trump a better alternative than Clinton. So they would have voted Dem even with the SC opening? And was it only because it was Trump? |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:32:30 GMT
Yes. Most of us preferred the other nominees. And we wouldn't have been as concerned with a moderate Democrat. I mean, moderate.
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Post by River on Nov 29, 2016 20:41:07 GMT
And y'll could've given us a better option than Hillary. There are many people I know who would have voted Democrat had y'all not picked her. Lauren, honest inquiry. Are these people Republicans or Democrats? I ask because I have a lot of friends who were hesitant to vote for Trump but did so because of Hillary. However, they are mostly Republicans and I couldn't imagine them voting for a Democrat no matter who it was.
Not Lauren, but I'll answer this because I too have friends that would have voted Democrat this election had it not been Hillary. They are and have always been Republicans. I live in the rural south that is solidly red, however in my circle of friends and some family, a great deal are much more socially liberal than ever before. That is pulling some weight with the party, but not as much as fiscally conservative is (hence Trump, although non of them voted for him in the primary).
I am seeing a lot more middle of the road Republicans (socially liberal/fiscal conservative) instead of the Tea party types. Abortion is still the turning point, but LGBTQ and Race equality rights are very important to these Republicans.
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Post by gardengoddess on Nov 29, 2016 20:41:26 GMT
I think Donald needs some tutoring in the Constitution. How sad is that?
He's becoming more of an embarrassment to this country each passing day and he hasn't even taken office.
That "draining the swamp" bullshit he spouted off to his followers sure is going well though isn't it?
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:48:06 GMT
I think it's more sad that Hillary needed tutoring in the Constitution. After all, she had a law degree and still brought legislation to punish flag destruction.
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Post by cade387 on Nov 29, 2016 20:49:30 GMT
Yes. Most of us preferred the other nominees. And we wouldn't have been as concerned with a moderate Democrat. I mean, moderate. Yes, but it was her or Bernie. Not one Republican I know would have voted for Bernie as a "moderate" |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 29, 2016 20:53:20 GMT
No, we wouldn't have voted for Bernie. However you had no other potential nominees because the DNC had promised the nomination to Hillary and nobody was going to step on her toes or thwart the party. Bernie just bucked the system and ran.
When have you ever seen only one potential nominee like this election?
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Post by cade387 on Nov 29, 2016 20:55:57 GMT
I think it's more sad that Hillary needed tutoring in the Constitution. After all, she had a law degree and still brought legislation to punish flag destruction. She didn't need tutoring. She (along with others) brought the bill to Congress to be used to push the Supreme Court to rehear the issue (as it was more conservative in 2005).
I will bet a box of doughnuts that the Republicans will do exactly the same thing to get Roe v. Wade and/or same sex marriage overturned.
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Post by cade387 on Nov 29, 2016 20:57:29 GMT
No, we wouldn't have voted for Bernie. However you had no other potential nominees because the DNC had promised the nomination to Hillary and nobody was going to step on her toes or thwart the party. Bernie just bucked the system and ran. When have you ever seen only one potential nominee like this election? The people can only vote for who is on the ballot. If no one runs, then it is hard to make other choices. I'm not a Democrat so I can't speak to the insides of their party. I personally think both major parties need an overhaul. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 29, 2016 20:57:56 GMT
Lauren, honest inquiry. Are these people Republicans or Democrats? I ask because I have a lot of friends who were hesitant to vote for Trump but did so because of Hillary. However, they are mostly Republicans and I couldn't imagine them voting for a Democrat no matter who it was. The majority of my friends are Republicans. Had the Dems put up a moderate Democrat rather than Hillary they would have strongly considered crossing party lines this election, including me. We spoke about it often. But even know, we all consider Trump a better alternative than Clinton. So would many independents. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 29, 2016 21:10:19 GMT
Well, well...I just learned something very interesting. Flag Protection Act of 2005Who sponsored this bill you may ask? Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah), with original co-sponsor Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.). Additional co-sponsors include Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Thomas Carper (D-Del.) The main point, to me at least, is that he is unfortunately going to be President. Doesn't he have intelligence briefings to attend? Is this really a priority? And I disagree with then-Senator Clinton. This is not a priority in the scheme of things. |
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I can't even wrap my head around how this buffoon got elected. And, before anyone says they had to choose the lesser of two evils. Y'all could've nominated someone different back in the primaries. 
