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Post by bluebird71 on Jan 12, 2017 12:54:06 GMT
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Post by Nink on Jan 12, 2017 13:18:05 GMT
I don't care if it was the National Enquirer asking him a question. The way he behaved was reprehensible. You're the f---ing President elect. The press are going to ask you shit you and say shit you may not like. Just like EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH.
Don't want to pinned to the wall then STOP SAYING AND DOING STUPID SHIT!
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Post by Nink on Jan 12, 2017 15:27:31 GMT
Also, its more than just a little disingenuous to rant against "fake" news when a member of your cabinet is a Breitbart stooge. #Irony
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Post by annabella on Jan 12, 2017 15:44:13 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference?
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Post by lovetodigi on Jan 12, 2017 15:47:19 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? They probably wear name badges and there have been statements made that Trump watches CNN even though he constantly attacks them. |
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Post by cade387 on Jan 12, 2017 15:48:44 GMT
Trump pretty much invented the fake news movement with his birther claims with "legitimate sources" etc... and then all the other claims since then. He thrives on it, so it is his go-to when deflecting anything.
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Post by ntsf on Jan 12, 2017 15:51:55 GMT
and having staff cheer... tacky tacky...feeding the ego
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 15:58:50 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? They usually introduce themselves, (although that poor reported from CNN didn't have a chance to do so yesterday) or they have their mic's marked on the front with the logo/name of the media they represent. |
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 12, 2017 16:03:46 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? They probably wear name badges and there have been statements made that Trump watches CNN even though he constantly attacks them. Don't they have to state their name/agency for the record? Or maybe that's just the people *giving* the conference. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 16:15:02 GMT
Sadly he will keep on gas lighting and taking to Twitter to spew his rants.
What's ironic about what he's doing is the ethics committee dismantlement that the GOP tried to cram through on the first day. Their big talking point was that when issues are brought forth that need to be investigated they had to spend time and $$ defending themselves over allegations (true or not true) and here we have their leader, spewing what is easily FACT checked and majority is false doing the same thing to businesses, governmental agencies and individuals.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 12, 2017 16:30:38 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? He didn't need to know in this case. The reporter interrupted him to say - since you're attacking us, can we get a question. |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 16:39:20 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? He didn't need to know in this case. The reporter interrupted him to say - since you're attacking us, can we get a question. The reporter had already asked a question and Trump gave him a non answer. So he asked to clarify. Then because Trump felt trapped, he deflected by attacking him. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 12, 2017 16:47:49 GMT
He didn't need to know in this case. The reporter interrupted him to say - since you're attacking us, can we get a question. The reporter had already asked a question and Trump gave him a non answer. So he asked to clarify. Then because Trump felt trapped, he deflected by attacking him. I don't think it was the same reporter - and while we can argue about whether Trump's answer was sufficient, but frankly as the question was about why Trump tweeted, it's pretty open to interpretation. The CNN reporter definitely did NOT ask him to clarify. The exchange: |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 16:54:57 GMT
I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it.
I do think Trump evaded answering the question, again, my opinion.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 12, 2017 17:04:15 GMT
I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it. I do think Trump evaded answering the question, again, my opinion. You have the benefit of video of the room - It may have been the same reporter, I was basing it on the different voice and the weird interjection of "Since you're attacking us, can you give us a question" I think it's a pretty big stretch to call that him "asking to clarify" |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 12, 2017 17:09:43 GMT
I don't care if it was the National Enquirer asking him a question. The way he behaved was reprehensible. You're the f---ing President elect. The press are going to ask you shit you and say shit you may not like. Just like EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH.
Don't want to pinned to the wall then STOP SAYING AND DOING STUPID SHIT! ^^^ worth repeating. ad nauseum. |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 17:10:40 GMT
I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it. I do think Trump evaded answering the question, again, my opinion. You have the benefit of video of the room - It may have been the same reporter, I was basing it on the different voice and the weird interjection of "Since you're attacking us, can you give us a question" I think it's a pretty big stretch to call that him "asking to clarify" There were many things thrown out at the time. The reporter wanted him to expand on the tweet because he didn't answer the question. Maybe me saying "asking to clarify"is a wrong choice of words, but it's basically what the reporter wanted. Sorry for the confusion. |
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Post by MizIndependent on Jan 12, 2017 17:20:43 GMT
I still think what I thunk before...CNN reporting on unsubstantiated memos is irresponsible journalism. It would seem they saw an opportunity to finally get this info "out there" and they took it. Now they're trying to distance themselves from their own reporting saying "we just reported on it's existence, we didn't put the details out there!" B.S. They knew exactly what would happen, they just wanted to be ones to break the story - at any cost - just like any other money-driven media outlet in the US. This dossier has been floating around the Capitol for months and no other news agency found it fit for release because it cannot be corroborated! Here's why: NYT: "How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump"Massive details at the article link that go all the way back to how this dossier was even collected and by whom because journalism ISN'T dead at the New York Times, thank God. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 12, 2017 17:26:06 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that.
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Post by lizacreates on Jan 12, 2017 17:38:09 GMT
I still think what I thunk before...CNN reporting on unsubstantiated memos is irresponsible journalism. It would seem they saw an opportunity to finally get this info "out there" and they took it. Now they're trying to distance themselves from their own reporting saying "we just reported on it's existence, we didn't put the details out there!" B.S. They knew exactly what would happen, they just wanted to be ones to break the story - at any cost - just like any other money-driven media outlet in the US. This dossier has been floating around the Capitol for last year or so and no other news agency found it fit for release because it cannot be corroborated! Here's why: NYT: "How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump"Massive details at the article link that go all the way back to how this dossier was even collected and by whom because journalism ISN'T dead at the New York Times, thank God. BTW, Steele was working in concert with Glenn Simpson (former WSJ reporter now heading Fusion GPS, the outfit hired by "a wealthy Republican donor who strongly opposed Mr. Trump" quote from NYT article linked above). Fusion GPS is the SAME FIRM that vetted the Planned Parenthood "body parts" videos.
I agree with everything you wrote as this has been my stance as well, especially the above part. If they wish to invoke journalistic responsibility, they need to ensure the news they’re reporting and their motives are beyond reproach. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 17:41:43 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. I didn't watch the entire news conference but did see clips and totally agree. Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference like they did Trump. That news conference was a fucking circus and it was the reporter that shouted over Trump that made it such. Anyone (leaning in any direction) trying to do that to Obama would've been scolded by Obama...given the look, and it would've stopped. I've never seen anything like what happened at that news conference and I think it's more a reflection of the unexcusable behavior of the press there than it is on Trump or his team. |
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Post by terri on Jan 12, 2017 17:46:04 GMT
How did Trump know which reporter is from which news organization during the press conference? They usually introduce themselves, (although that poor reported from CNN didn't have a chance to do so yesterday) or they have their mic's marked on the front with the logo/name of the media they represent. In addition, Trump spends a lot of time calling them individually and off the record. It is a practice that I wish the press would stop being a part of. |
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Jan 12, 2017 17:49:39 GMT
I do not think CNN was irresponsible in their reporting. They reported on the two page addendum, that was presented in the briefing. They did NOT report on the dossier that Buzzfeed did a document dump of. Here is a six minute video where the FACTS of the reporting are discussed and how Conway is nothing more than a Propaganda Minister for the incoming Trump administration. It is worth watching to hear what Carl Bernstein has to say.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jonl25UVK3g |
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jan 12, 2017 17:54:40 GMT
Trump pretty much invented the fake news movement with his birther claims with "legitimate sources" etc... and then all the other claims since then. He thrives on it, so it is his go-to when deflecting anything. didn't he say Alicia Machado (former Miss Universe) had a sex tape out there? Which turned out to not be true |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 17:55:13 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues.
I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that.
I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there.
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Post by peatlejuice on Jan 12, 2017 17:55:19 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. You know I'm a Trump hater. I don't think Acosta would've spoken like that to Obama, partly because Obama would have handled the request with far more grace and diplomacy than Trump. Regardless, I agree it was rude for him to shout over the other reporter. I also think it was rude and quite honestly, petulant, of Trump to refuse to allow him to ask the question. Trump was certainly under no obligation to answer (he ignored or gave non-answers to plenty of other reporters), and he could have also easily answered the question with, "I'm not responding to you because I think you're a terrible organization". As President, he should be expected to rise above the pettiness that he displayed yesterday. But of course, I'd never expect his biggest supporters to acknowledge that.  |
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Post by terri on Jan 12, 2017 17:57:19 GMT
I still think what I thunk before...CNN reporting on unsubstantiated memos is irresponsible journalism. It would seem they saw an opportunity to finally get this info "out there" and they took it. Now they're trying to distance themselves from their own reporting saying "we just reported on it's existence, we didn't put the details out there!" B.S. They knew exactly what would happen, they just wanted to be ones to break the story - at any cost - just like any other money-driven media outlet in the US. This dossier has been floating around the Capitol for last year or so and no other news agency found it fit for release because it cannot be corroborated! Here's why: NYT: "How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump"Massive details at the article link that go all the way back to how this dossier was even collected and by whom because journalism ISN'T dead at the New York Times, thank God. I could not disagree more. The reason CNN reported on this at this time was because the information was just presented to Trump and Obama. This does not happen unless intelligence officials believe that they have to because the dossier put Trump at risk of blackmail. While I only know what I have read about this incident (I've been out of D.C. for many years) some of you from the old board may remember that I worked for the Secret Service and had many colleagues in intelligence. I assure you that this stuff is not brought to POTUS without a firm belief in its importance. That is why it is news. ETA: After listening to the BBC reports about this I believe what Buzzfeed printed was accurate and that there are multiple tapes of Trump in distasteful situations. That he likes to get his freak on is not an issue for me as I could care less what he does in the bedroom, my concern is that Russia has information they can use to blackmail the soon to be POTUS. |
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Post by peano on Jan 12, 2017 17:57:20 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. I didn't watch the entire news conference but did see clips and totally agree. Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference like they did Trump. That news conference was a fucking circus and it was the reporter that shouted over Trump that made it such. Anyone (leaning in any direction) trying to do that to Obama would've been scolded by Obama...given the look, and it would've stopped. I've never seen anything like what happened at that news conference and I think it's more a reflection of the unexcusable behavior of the press there than it is on Trump or his team. What's a little hyperbole, right? We must not have watched the same news conference because it seemed pretty much like any other news conference I've ever watched (except I don't think there were quite enough flags behind the podium  ) with the exception of the CNN encounter and subsequent booing by Trump staffers. Hardly a "fucking circus". But what's really inexcusable? Trump and the Trump camp, especially serial liar and gaslighter Kellyanne Conway calling CNN reporting fake news. It is obvious the Trump camp has it in for CNN because they did nothing differently from any other reputable news source (NY Times, WSJ) in how they covered the Russia stuff. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 12, 2017 17:59:05 GMT
^^^ thank you! the basics:
The CNN story included the following information, NONE of which is false. So there should BE NO ISSUE with CNN and calling them 'fake' news. The facts they reported in their story ARE true. They reported:
1) the information (which CNN did NOT discuss) was included in the material given to the President and the President-Elect. THIS IS TRUE
CNN did NOT discuss particulars of the (unsubstantiated) information. BuzzFeed did.
2) The FBI is investigating the claims made in the material. THIS IS TRUE.
3) Both Democratic and Republican senators consider these allegations serious enough to warrant investigation. THIS IS TRUE. John McCain was the one who contacted the FBI about it.
So HOW exactly is CNN reporting fake news, again??
ETA: and I've seen footage from press conferences before in the past where reporters talk over each other in trying to ask a question... (or at least White House press briefings)... why is that so very egregious in this case?? |
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 12, 2017 18:01:04 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues. I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that. I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. No one except the Republican Congressman who shouted "you lie" over the POTUS addressing a joint session of Congress you mean? |
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) with the exception of the CNN encounter and subsequent booing by Trump staffers. Hardly a "fucking circus". 