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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 13, 2017 5:13:07 GMT
I am not interested in Donald Trump's sex life. Whether he likes prostitutes or kink or whatever is irrelevant to me. I am more concerned with Trump's disdain for, and open petulance toward, the press. I am concerned about the fact that NOTHING this man does, impeachable or not, will sway his most ardent supporters. These people claim to love their country, but the truth is that they put party above country at all turns. Trump does not love America and he certainly does not love Americans. He loves power. He loves money. He loves Donald Trump. But he's convinced enough people that he loves America and he loves them enough to return them to the good old days that IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE DOES. He is already behaving like a petulant tyrant, and look at all the people we have here who trip over themselves to defend him. I can't decide what would be worse: being stuck with President Trump for 4 years, or what would happen if he were actually impeached. You have a lot of ignorant, angry people with guns who mistake blind adherence to party for patriotism. I think we are in a very precarious situation. I totally agree. I also see this as him furthering his attempts at discrediting any press that he does not feel is in his pocket. We have never seen anything like this before, and I find it very concerning that his supporters can't see that. He and his surrogates are on tv, social media, etc all day long trying to attack the media (although I have never heard them say anything negative about Fox). This goes back to the campaign when they asked CNN to do Things more in trumps favor and they declined ever since they he has been negative towards CNN. He is trying to get everyone to watch and listen to the outlets that will not question him or give facts rather than the trump camps twisted views of things. |
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Post by bluebird71 on Jan 13, 2017 9:54:36 GMT
Hmmm proof of what exactly - it certainly is proof that the reporter wasn't standing the whole time. Where's the quote... "I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it." My video feed live did not show the front view or split screen. I saw the reporter standing while asking and listening. Regardless, The reporter was not rude. He was trying to get a straight answer. That's what good reporters do. They are like pibulls or they don't get anywhere. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 13, 2017 11:35:10 GMT
A member of my family works for one of the major networks and has attended hundreds of press conferences, including at the White House.
His take: The behavior of the CNN reporter was not unusual in and of itself, but especially considering the markedly unprecedented tone of the event set by the cheering Trump staffers and the behavior of the president-elect.
I just read that (incoming press secretary) Sean Spicer said the Randy Weber was rude, inappropriate and disrespectful "regardless of party." What's with the party stuff? CNN is not a partisan news outlet. And then I come here to read the implication that Weber is frrom "The Left" (an implication I base on the argument that nobody from "The Right" ever did this to President Obama).
This is interesting:
Oh, and now there's a Republican congressman calling for CNN to fire Weber...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 11:49:11 GMT
A LOT of reporters have tried to get straight answers from Obama yet none have behaved the way this clown did. Obama has never told a legitimate news reporter that their outlet produces fake news and that he wasn't going to answer their question. If you have a link to something like this, I would love to see it. I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 12:50:36 GMT
Obama has never told a legitimate news reporter that their outlet produces fake news and that he wasn't going to answer their question. If you have a link to something like this, I would love to see it. I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't forget about Obama's longstanding "war" on Fox News. Obama has been trashing Fox News (and its viewers) for a very long time. I will still state that the Press NEVER treated Obama at a Press Conference like they did Trump. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 12:56:52 GMT
Because a sitting Congressman should have more respect and decorum for the POTUS speaking then a member of the free press after a story. I was responding to the statement that "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" Which is simply not true. If you are trying to make the claim that I stated "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" I would suggest you go back and re-read. I made it QUITE clear that I was specifically talking about the Press AT a Press Conference. In fact, my words were as follows: "Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference" Just reposting this from the last page to make sure those that liked the claim from used2scrap would have an opportunity to read my reply. I wish people would double check their facts before accusing someone of something. |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 13, 2017 13:00:41 GMT
So Trump's team expects this guy to be fired? Also any reporter who doesn't agree with him and gives him the tough questions???
What the everloving F***!!!! If he can't handle the tough questions and a bit of pressure, he should NOT be in the President's seat. EVER.
He is so used to everyone around him agreeing and the yes sir, yes sir, that he is going to be sorely disappointed when people try to oppose him.
OMG...it just keeps getting worse!!!
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Post by pretzels on Jan 13, 2017 13:13:54 GMT
I am a former journalist and Trump's behavior the other day just floored me. I used to handle media requests for a technical college and now, I work with external relations (IOW, media) for a large company.
You know who refuses to answer questions from journalists? GUILTY people. Also, people who aren't prepared for the job they're doing.
My department has a multi-page document with what we call "holding statements" for a variety of incidents who we have a ready answer for the media while we figure out what to really say.
Trump needs to get people who know what they are doing to handle this stuff for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 13:36:29 GMT
Here is an interview (transcript AND video) of Obama complaining about how unfair Fox News is because Fox news is asking him about Healthcare not working (and yes, many Democrats here love it and think it's a huge success but nationwide, it's quite unpopular) the IRS being "wholly corrupt" (which they were found to be completely corrupt) and Benghazi. How dare Fox news try to get answers on those above 3 topics...Fox news trying to ask the hard questions only to have Obama whining that they're picking on him and being unfair to him. Comments in question start in the video at about the 5:00 mark. BILL O’REILLY Do you think I’m being unfair to you, do you think I’ve been giving you— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Absolutely. Of course you have, Bill. But, I like you anyway, Bill. BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Okay, but—give me how I’m unfair. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] It-it-but—look— BILL O’REILLY Give me how I’m unfair. Come on, you can’t make that accusation without telling me. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Bill—we’ve just run through an interview in which you asked about health, uh, health care not working, IRS where-where we, uh, wholly corrupt, Benghazi— BILL O’REILLY All right. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Right, so the list of issues that you talk about— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] But these are unanswered questions— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Yeah, but-but-but they’re defined by you guys in a certain way. But this—look, this is okay. This-this is— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Do you not— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA If you want to—if you want to be President of the United States, then you know that you’re going to be subject to criticism, and— BILL O’REILLY But if it’s unfair, I-I want to know if it’s unfair. Is it un—criticism is criticism. It’s my job to give you a hard time. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here—here—here’s what I would say. I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, uh, it has, uh, it has made FOX News very successful. BILL O’REILLY But if I’m unfair, I want— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here’s what—here’s the thing you guys—here’s what you guys are gonna have to figure out is what are—what are you gonna do when I’m gone? I’m telling you— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHS] PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP][INAUDIBLE] nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/03/unedited-bill-oreillys-exclusive-interview-president-obama |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 13:42:41 GMT
I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. that didn't forget about Obama's longstanding "war" on Fox News. Obama has been trashing Fox News (and its viewers) for a very long time. I will still state that the Press NEVER treated Obama at a Press Conference like they did Trump. Geez, me too. Sometimes, when I pop into these political threads, I feel like I'm in a time warp. People have very short, very partisan memories. Unfortunately, government as we know it thrives on that. |
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Post by jennyap on Jan 13, 2017 13:57:08 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues. I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that. I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. If you are trying to make the claim that I stated "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" I would suggest you go back and re-read.
I made it QUITE clear that I was specifically talking about the Press AT a Press Conference. In fact, my words were as follows: "Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference" Just reposting this from the last page to make sure those that liked the claim from used2scrap would have an opportunity to read my reply. I wish people would double check their facts before accusing someone of something.
Cognitive dissonance, party of one...
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Post by Nink on Jan 13, 2017 14:09:52 GMT
I understand that Presidents will have likes and dislikes of news agencies. It's human nature. I never expect a republican president to be a fan of MSNBC anymore than I expected t a Democratic president to be a fan of FOX. It is Trumps behavior in that moment that I find completely unacceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 14:15:03 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues. I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that. I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. Just reposting this from the last page to make sure those that liked the claim from used2scrap would have an opportunity to read my reply. I wish people would double check their facts before accusing someone of something.
Cognitive dissonance, party of one...
True. But even in my 12:55 reply, I think it's evident that I'm referencing the press and behavior at press conferences...but I will apologize because the words bolded were in fact typed...even if the context of my post makes my thoughts on the matter clear. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 14:19:19 GMT
I am a former journalist and Trump's behavior the other day just floored me. I used to handle media requests for a technical college and now, I work with external relations (IOW, media) for a large company. You know who refuses to answer questions from journalists? GUILTY people. Also, people who aren't prepared for the job they're doing. My department has a multi-page document with what we call "holding statements" for a variety of incidents who we have a ready answer for the media while we figure out what to really say. Trump needs to get people who know what they are doing to handle this stuff for him. ONe look at the Obama Administration...and I would absolutely concur. But honestly, this would apply to Washington as a whole. How many of Clinton's people refused to answer questions? Lois Lerner? (and those two are Democrats as examples, but I also realize there are plenty of examples of Republicans also refusing to answer questions. |
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Post by Nink on Jan 13, 2017 14:36:18 GMT
Here is an interview (transcript AND video) of Obama complaining about how unfair Fox News is because Fox news is asking him about Healthcare not working (and yes, many Democrats here love it and think it's a huge success but nationwide, it's quite unpopular) the IRS being "wholly corrupt" (which they were found to be completely corrupt) and Benghazi. How dare Fox news try to get answers on those above 3 topics...Fox news trying to ask the hard questions only to have Obama whining that they're picking on him and being unfair to him. Comments in question start in the video at about the 5:00 mark. BILL O’REILLY Do you think I’m being unfair to you, do you think I’ve been giving you— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Absolutely. Of course you have, Bill. But, I like you anyway, Bill. BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Okay, but—give me how I’m unfair. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] It-it-but—look— BILL O’REILLY Give me how I’m unfair. Come on, you can’t make that accusation without telling me. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Bill—we’ve just run through an interview in which you asked about health, uh, health care not working, IRS where-where we, uh, wholly corrupt, Benghazi— BILL O’REILLY All right. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Right, so the list of issues that you talk about— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] But these are unanswered questions— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Yeah, but-but-but they’re defined by you guys in a certain way. But this—look, this is okay. This-this is— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Do you not— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA If you want to—if you want to be President of the United States, then you know that you’re going to be subject to criticism, and— BILL O’REILLY But if it’s unfair, I-I want to know if it’s unfair. Is it un—criticism is criticism. It’s my job to give you a hard time. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here—here—here’s what I would say. I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, uh, it has, uh, it has made FOX News very successful. BILL O’REILLY But if I’m unfair, I want— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here’s what—here’s the thing you guys—here’s what you guys are gonna have to figure out is what are—what are you gonna do when I’m gone? I’m telling you— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHS] PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP][INAUDIBLE] nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/03/unedited-bill-oreillys-exclusive-interview-president-obamaIf you are unable or unwilling to see the difference in the tone and demeanor between what is in this video vs the way Trump acted to that reporter then you are being deliberately obtuse. ETA: and you're trying to compare behavior in a press conference vs a pretty lengthy one on one interview. Hopefully Trump will be willing to sit down and discuss his policies with a news network he sees as being unfair to him. I'd love to see it. |
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Post by suzastampin on Jan 13, 2017 14:38:19 GMT
It is Trumps behavior in that moment that I find completely unacceptable. This! He has lowered the bar of Presidental behavior. He could have just ignored the reporter, rather than to keep talking over the top of him. And, his actions have brought about the "yea, I don't have to be politically correct anymore" ideas. I have a few old high school friends who were high fiving each other when he won and said the above quote. Let me just say that I no longer look at them the same. Trump needs to sit himself down and watch press conferences from other presidents to learn how to behave like a gentleman not a thug. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 13, 2017 14:51:16 GMT
So Trump's team expects this guy to be fired? Also any reporter who doesn't agree with him and gives him the tough questions??? What the everloving F***!!!! If he can't handle the tough questions and a bit of pressure, he should NOT be in the President's seat. EVER. He is so used to everyone around him agreeing and the yes sir, yes sir, that he is going to be sorely disappointed when people try to oppose him. OMG...it just keeps getting worse!!! Kelly Ann was on Anderson cooper and said that "heads should roll" and was complaining about the news outlets not "cleaning house" after they were wrong about the election. Ugh. So sick of her. |
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 14:57:17 GMT
Obama has never told a legitimate news reporter that their outlet produces fake news and that he wasn't going to answer their question. If you have a link to something like this, I would love to see it. I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. Is there video somewhere of Obama being a total jackass to a reporter? Video of comparing a legit network to Nazis? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 15:06:23 GMT
I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. Is there video somewhere of Obama being a total jackass to a reporter? Video of comparing a legit network to Nazis? I responded with a link to your request: "Obama has never told a legitimate news reporter that their outlet produces fake news and that he wasn't going to answer their question. If you have a link to something like this, I would love to see it." Trump's an ass, his behavior is/was deplorable, and I said as much in my first response in this thread. There seem to be a few different points being discussed in this thread: CNN/Trump's behavior at the press conference; Trump throwing out the "fake news" comments; and, Trump not wanting to comment or acknowledge a news source. I commented directly on point A, and my link was to show he is not the first President to use "fake news" as a way to not respond to a news outlet. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 13, 2017 15:16:56 GMT
I think people might have forgotten about the issues with Obama and Fox news. Obama v. Fox As I said upthread--the delivery might be different (Obama/Fox and Trump/CNN) but the gist is the same. ***eta*** Just like Fox has defended CNN now, CNN defended Fox then. Is there video somewhere of Obama being a total jackass to a reporter? Video of comparing a legit network to Nazis? Trump wasn't comparing CNN, he was bashing the intelligence agencies for releasing the information saying it's something Nazi Germany would have done: |
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 15:21:31 GMT
Is there video somewhere of Obama being a total jackass to a reporter? Video of comparing a legit network to Nazis? Trump wasn't comparing CNN, he was bashing the intelligence agencies for releasing the information saying it's something Nazi Germany would have done: You are right. And that is worse. Comparing people who are putting their lives on the line to keep our country safe to doing something that Nazi Germany would do.... WOW. Just WOW. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 15:28:32 GMT
Here is an interview (transcript AND video) of Obama complaining about how unfair Fox News is because Fox news is asking him about Healthcare not working (and yes, many Democrats here love it and think it's a huge success but nationwide, it's quite unpopular) the IRS being "wholly corrupt" (which they were found to be completely corrupt) and Benghazi. How dare Fox news try to get answers on those above 3 topics...Fox news trying to ask the hard questions only to have Obama whining that they're picking on him and being unfair to him. Comments in question start in the video at about the 5:00 mark. BILL O’REILLY Do you think I’m being unfair to you, do you think I’ve been giving you— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Absolutely. Of course you have, Bill. But, I like you anyway, Bill. BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Okay, but—give me how I’m unfair. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] It-it-but—look— BILL O’REILLY Give me how I’m unfair. Come on, you can’t make that accusation without telling me. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Bill—we’ve just run through an interview in which you asked about health, uh, health care not working, IRS where-where we, uh, wholly corrupt, Benghazi— BILL O’REILLY All right. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Right, so the list of issues that you talk about— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] But these are unanswered questions— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA Yeah, but-but-but they’re defined by you guys in a certain way. But this—look, this is okay. This-this is— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] Do you not— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA If you want to—if you want to be President of the United States, then you know that you’re going to be subject to criticism, and— BILL O’REILLY But if it’s unfair, I-I want to know if it’s unfair. Is it un—criticism is criticism. It’s my job to give you a hard time. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here—here—here’s what I would say. I think regardless of whether it’s fair or not, uh, it has, uh, it has made FOX News very successful. BILL O’REILLY But if I’m unfair, I want— PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP] Here’s what—here’s the thing you guys—here’s what you guys are gonna have to figure out is what are—what are you gonna do when I’m gone? I’m telling you— BILL O’REILLY [OVERLAP] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHS] PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA [OVERLAP][INAUDIBLE] nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/03/unedited-bill-oreillys-exclusive-interview-president-obamaIf you are unable or unwilling to see the difference in the tone and demeanor between what is in this video vs the way Trump acted to that reporter then you are being deliberately obtuse. ETA: and you're trying to compare behavior in a press conference vs a pretty lengthy one on one interview. Hopefully Trump will be willing to sit down and discuss his policies with a news network he sees as being unfair to him. I'd love to see it. I'm not comparing the tone and demeanor with this interview and Trump's press conference. The point of this post was to give an example of Obama whining about Fox News being unfair and his inability to answer questions. |
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Post by jenis40 on Jan 13, 2017 15:40:45 GMT
I have not watched the press conference because I can't stand to listen to people talking over one another. It's the same reason I hate Chris Matthews with a passion (My God he is an ass).
My takeaway from what I've read:
1. I am concerned about Trump's continued efforts to deligitimize both the press and the intelligence community. Especially with the IC, you don't say those things publicly! If he wants to have an investigation and present findings, fine. I really view what he is doing as dangerous at best and treasonous at worst.
2. Both Trump and the reporter were rude. However I only expect one of those two to act presidential. CNN and the general journalistic community should handle the other.
3. I do remember Obama's call out of Fox and it was not cool for him to do so. I also do not consider Bill O'Reilly a journalist. He's a talk show host. Not saying Obama was correct in that interview because i also really dislike people not answering questions.
4. Trump's handling of his business interests is unethical, in my opinion. I think all elected and appointed officials should be held to the same ethics laws and rules.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 13, 2017 16:14:31 GMT
If you are trying to make the claim that I stated "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" I would suggest you go back and re-read. I made it QUITE clear that I was specifically talking about the Press AT a Press Conference. In fact, my words were as follows: "Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference" Just reposting this from the last page to make sure those that liked the claim from used2scrap would have an opportunity to read my reply. I wish people would double check their facts before accusing someone of something. Me too! Hey, we agree on something! |
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 13, 2017 16:39:28 GMT
Biden & Clapper both now on record confirming that CNN report was accurate.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 13, 2017 16:49:26 GMT
of course it was accurate. Because the CNN story only said: Tthere was a report. It was recently given to the President and the PE. The FBI and some Congresspeople are concerned about the report's contents."
NONE OF THAT IS FALSE.
Trump / Conway are masters at conflation and obfuscation.
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 13, 2017 17:22:19 GMT
of course it was accurate. Because the CNN story only said: Tthere was a report. It was recently given to the President and the PE. The FBI and some Congresspeople are concerned about the report's contents." NONE OF THAT IS FALSE. Trump / Conway are masters at conflation and obfuscation. Yep |
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Post by MizIndependent on Jan 13, 2017 18:11:01 GMT
of course it was accurate. Because the CNN story only said: Tthere was a report. It was recently given to the President and the PE. The FBI and some Congresspeople are concerned about the report's contents." NONE OF THAT IS FALSE. Trump / Conway are masters at conflation and obfuscation. Yeah...that's not really all they said or the way they said it and if it was, it would still have been misleading because they should have said "unverified allegations" or "unsubstantiated report". You want to talk about conflation and obfuscation? After all that, phrases like " more credible" and " FBI vetted" and " so sensitive it was not included in the classified report" and " only shared at the most senior levels of government", puffing and billowing and blowing on the flames of "THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT!", then they slip in a quick little "They have not established the veracity but they are taking a look."It's all "LOOK AT THIS!!! LOOK AT IT!!! LOOK AT IT!!!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 13, 2017 18:21:33 GMT
Sorry, but I don't think what I wrote was untrue.
CNN wasn't reporting on the CONTENT of the report, they were only reporting that it existed and to whom it was given.
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