MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jan 12, 2017 18:21:47 GMT
The reporter had already asked a question and Trump gave him a non answer. So he asked to clarify. Then because Trump felt trapped, he deflected by attacking him. I don't think it was the same reporter - and while we can argue about whether Trump's answer was sufficient, but frankly as the question was about why Trump tweeted, it's pretty open to interpretation. The CNN reporter definitely did NOT ask him to clarify. The exchange: Audience angle: I'm not sure the CNN reporter in question was rude, he was simply not backing down, trying to get "the get" which I think he succeeded in (IMO). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 18:26:29 GMT
I do not condone Trump's behavior, and treatment of that reporter, at the press conference yesterday. I found the spectacle to be appalling and embarrassing that this is how the leader of the United States behaves.
This isn't the first time a President has blocked a news outlet though, right? This really isn't something new? The delivery might have been different, but the message sent was the same.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 18:28:47 GMT
I kept yelling at the feed I was watching--"reporters-JUST ASK ONE DAMN QUESTION AT A TIME!!!"
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Post by trollie on Jan 12, 2017 18:33:39 GMT
I'm not sure the CNN reporter in question was rude, he was simply not backing down, trying to get "the get" which I think he succeeded in (IMO). Trump was the rude one. Calling CNN fake news. The reporter was being persistent in trying to get his question answered. This what we want guys. Trump should be able to handle questions, and not just from the reporters he likes. He is so not ready to be President that it's not even funny. Please impeach this guy and give me Pence. At least he can communicate in a calm and coherent manner |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 18:55:20 GMT
The reporter was not shouting over him until Trump started attacking him.
Trump was freaking out because he did not have a legitimate answer to the question asked.
As to reporters yelling questions, I've seen it multiple times.
All the guy wanted was a TRUE ANSWER but as usual, Trump skirted over the issue blathering on about nothing relevant to his question.
Trump was just as wrong for attacking the reporter as you claim the reporter was to him.
But of course, you won't see it that way.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 18:58:38 GMT
I don't think it was the same reporter - and while we can argue about whether Trump's answer was sufficient, but frankly as the question was about why Trump tweeted, it's pretty open to interpretation. The CNN reporter definitely did NOT ask him to clarify. The exchange: Audience angle: I'm not sure the CNN reporter in question was rude, he was simply not backing down, trying to get "the get" which I think he succeeded in (IMO). But proof or not, they will not admit it was Trump who was out of line. Remember, facts aren't relevant anymore.  |
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Post by Rainbow on Jan 12, 2017 18:59:32 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues. I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that. I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. No one except the Republican Congressman who shouted "you lie" over the POTUS addressing a joint session of Congress you mean? |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 12, 2017 19:01:23 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. Can you ever defend Trump without bringing Obama or Clinton into it? Just state your point. Sheesh |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 12, 2017 19:21:30 GMT
Audience angle: I'm not sure the CNN reporter in question was rude, he was simply not backing down, trying to get "the get" which I think he succeeded in (IMO). But proof or not, they will not admit it was Trump who was out of line. Remember, facts aren't relevant anymore. Hmmm proof of what exactly - it certainly is proof that the reporter wasn't standing the whole time. Where's the quote... "I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it." |
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Post by inkedup on Jan 12, 2017 20:07:59 GMT
I am not interested in Donald Trump's sex life. Whether he likes prostitutes or kink or whatever is irrelevant to me.
I am more concerned with Trump's disdain for, and open petulance toward, the press. I am concerned about the fact that NOTHING this man does, impeachable or not, will sway his most ardent supporters. These people claim to love their country, but the truth is that they put party above country at all turns. Trump does not love America and he certainly does not love Americans. He loves power. He loves money. He loves Donald Trump.
But he's convinced enough people that he loves America and he loves them enough to return them to the good old days that IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE DOES.
He is already behaving like a petulant tyrant, and look at all the people we have here who trip over themselves to defend him.
I can't decide what would be worse: being stuck with President Trump for 4 years, or what would happen if he were actually impeached. You have a lot of ignorant, angry people with guns who mistake blind adherence to party for patriotism. I think we are in a very precarious situation.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 12, 2017 20:33:46 GMT
But proof or not, they will not admit it was Trump who was out of line. Remember, facts aren't relevant anymore. Hmmm proof of what exactly - it certainly is proof that the reporter wasn't standing the whole time. Where's the quote... "I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it." My video feed live did not show the front view or split screen. I saw the reporter standing while asking and listening. Regardless, The reporter was not rude. He was trying to get a straight answer. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 12, 2017 20:45:58 GMT
Hmmm proof of what exactly - it certainly is proof that the reporter wasn't standing the whole time. Where's the quote... "I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it." My video feed live did not show the front view or split screen. I saw the reporter standing while asking and listening. Regardless, The reporter was not rude. He was trying to get a straight answer. He was both rude and trying to defend CNN. We can agree to disagree on "straight answer" - it was a question about a tweet - I still don't know what kind of "straight answer" you expected about why Trump referenced Nazi Germany in a tweet. The reporter took offense to CNN being lumped with BuzzFeed and became extremely aggressive - Donald Trump responded in kind. It wasn't presidential, it wasn't admirable - but I don't agree with your characterization of it as Donald Trump attacking the report for asking a clarifying question - he wasn't asking a clarifying question he was trying to in his words: "since your attacking us, can you give us a question." Loudly, repeatedly. This is one of those situations where I'm always scratching my head on why people try to make it more than it was. It pretty much sucked on it's own merits, there's really no reason to inflate it into Trump attacking a poor reporter. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 12, 2017 22:12:13 GMT
Someone could punch Trump's lights on in full view of the world and the haters would find a way to talk about how rude Trump was for getting up again.
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Post by trollie on Jan 12, 2017 22:15:19 GMT
Someone could punch Trump's lights on in full view of the world and the haters would find a way to talk about how rude Trump was for getting up again. And the reverse would also be true. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 12, 2017 22:25:39 GMT
And so do two wrongs make a right?
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Post by trollie on Jan 12, 2017 22:28:00 GMT
This hasn't actually happened, so there isn't a wrong yet. I will be happy to denounce the person that punches Trump in the face when that happens. I will understand their desire to do so though.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 22:46:30 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. I'll acknowledge it...as long as you can acknowledge that President Obama would not have treated the reporters as Trump and his group did, disparaging them, calling them dishonest media because they report what actually comes out of his mouth. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 22:47:22 GMT
ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. Even those were greeted with his smirking and disdain! Ian Parnell put his hand up,waited until he was pointed at, introduced himself as Ian Parnell BBC only to be greeted with a smirk and, I quote " BBC news.That's another beauty" He couldn't help himself even when that particular reporter did nothing wrong. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 22:51:38 GMT
Someone could punch Trump's lights on in full view of the world and the haters would find a way to talk about how rude Trump was for getting up again. If he was assaulted I would not think that was okay, despite what you keep lying about every day to disparage liberal peas. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 22:53:50 GMT
Someone could punch Trump's lights on in full view of the world and the haters would find a way to talk about how rude Trump was for getting up again. And and Trump, in full view of the world could make statements of encouraging his supporters to beat up non supporters and that he'd pay their legal bills and you'd find something okay with that and his supporters cheered. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 22:58:29 GMT
No one except the Republican Congressman who shouted "you lie" over the POTUS addressing a joint session of Congress you mean? He did not. The facts: The bill, HR 3200, would set up a health insurance “exchange,” in which consumers could compare policies and choose a plan. It would create a government-run health plan to compete with private insurers in that exchange, and extend subsidies for coverage to people who aren’t already covered by employers or federal programs like Medicare and Medicaid. It specifically bars illegal immigrants from receiving those subsidies. Section 246, which is included in the part of the bill that sets up the exchange, forbids payments “on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 12, 2017 23:08:22 GMT
The reporter was nothing short of rude. He'd never have spoken that way to Obama. But of course, I don't expect the Trump-haters to acknowledge that. I'll acknowledge it...as long as you can acknowledge that President Obama would not have treated the reporters as Trump and his group did, disparaging them, calling them dishonest media because they report what actually comes out of his mouth. Better yet, how about "the reporters never have spoken that way to President Obama in 8 years of press conferences, and President Obama also never treated the press as poorly as President-Elect Trump did during that press conference??" (i.e,, calling them dishonest, lying, etc. in the middle of a press conference, accusing them of lying if they said something he didn't like, saying they should be fired, etc.)
Because we have 8 years of history to show what press conferences were like under President Obama, and countless years of press conferences before him to show what HAS happened.
We also have Donald Trump's past behavior to indicate what his future behavior might be like, too, and it's not very Presidential, when compared to the past umpteen years of history. If he really DOES want to start acting "Presidential" (and I'm not holding my breath on that one) he might want to get going on that, considering how quickly the Inaguration is coming up.
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Post by Rainbow on Jan 12, 2017 23:08:26 GMT
He did not. The facts: The bill, HR 3200, would set up a health insurance “exchange,” in which consumers could compare policies and choose a plan. It would create a government-run health plan to compete with private insurers in that exchange, and extend subsidies for coverage to people who aren’t already covered by employers or federal programs like Medicare and Medicaid. It specifically bars illegal immigrants from receiving those subsidies. Section 246, which is included in the part of the bill that sets up the exchange, forbids payments “on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 12, 2017 23:16:05 GMT
He did not. The facts: The bill, HR 3200, would set up a health insurance “exchange,” in which consumers could compare policies and choose a plan. It would create a government-run health plan to compete with private insurers in that exchange, and extend subsidies for coverage to people who aren’t already covered by employers or federal programs like Medicare and Medicaid. It specifically bars illegal immigrants from receiving those subsidies. Section 246, which is included in the part of the bill that sets up the exchange, forbids payments “on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” Prove it with REAL facts, or as you say you're full of it then. It was fact checked and he did not lie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 0:17:54 GMT
Only home for lunch so I don't have all afternoon to sit here and reply...but IMO, the report and whether or not it's true and how that reporter behaved at the news conference are two separate issues. I don't care what they're discussing...no reporter should be yelling like that at the PEOTUS or the POTUS. No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that. I think anyone acting like this at a Press Conference should not be allowed back. Of course the left would be up in arms about that, but for fuck's sake...if you're going to be so disruptive to the PEOTUS or POTUS you shouldn't be there. ONly those that behave, ask questions, even ask tough questions should be there. No one except the Republican Congressman who shouted "you lie" over the POTUS addressing a joint session of Congress you mean? 1) That wasn't a member of the press at a press conference...which is kind of what we're discussing here. 2) Yes, a Republican Congressman shouted "you lie" to Obama. He got "the look" and that was all he said. He didn't continue to yell over Obama. It was disrespectful, for sure...and I'm not saying it's not better or worse than what happened at the press conference. But it's not the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 0:21:13 GMT
Hmmm proof of what exactly - it certainly is proof that the reporter wasn't standing the whole time. Where's the quote... "I was sure it was the same reporter as he stood the whole time, but I'm not going to argue about it." My video feed live did not show the front view or split screen. I saw the reporter standing while asking and listening. Regardless, The reporter was not rude. He was trying to get a straight answer. A LOT of reporters have tried to get straight answers from Obama yet none have behaved the way this clown did. |
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 0:24:44 GMT
My video feed live did not show the front view or split screen. I saw the reporter standing while asking and listening. Regardless, The reporter was not rude. He was trying to get a straight answer. A LOT of reporters have tried to get straight answers from Obama yet none have behaved the way this clown did. Obama has never told a legitimate news reporter that their outlet produces fake news and that he wasn't going to answer their question. If you have a link to something like this, I would love to see it. |
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 13, 2017 2:25:21 GMT
No one except the Republican Congressman who shouted "you lie" over the POTUS addressing a joint session of Congress you mean? 1) That wasn't a member of the press at a press conference...which is kind of what we're discussing here. 2) Yes, a Republican Congressman shouted "you lie" to Obama. He got "the look" and that was all he said. He didn't continue to yell over Obama. It was disrespectful, for sure...and I'm not saying it's not better or worse than what happened at the press conference. But it's not the same. Because a sitting Congressman should have more respect and decorum for the POTUS speaking then a member of the free press after a story. I was responding to the statement that "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" Which is simply not true. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 13, 2017 4:21:07 GMT
1) That wasn't a member of the press at a press conference...which is kind of what we're discussing here. 2) Yes, a Republican Congressman shouted "you lie" to Obama. He got "the look" and that was all he said. He didn't continue to yell over Obama. It was disrespectful, for sure...and I'm not saying it's not better or worse than what happened at the press conference. But it's not the same. Because a sitting Congressman should have more respect and decorum for the POTUS speaking then a member of the free press after a story. I was responding to the statement that "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" Which is simply not true. I was going to post the same thing right away, but was worried I would get screamed at! It is NOT TRUE that no one ever treated President Obama like that. 1. Congressmen Joe Wilson did. 2. PE Donald Trump has, repeatedly over many years and many topics 3. Republican Jan Brewer rudely stuck her finger in President Obama's face while disagreeing with him Mitch McConnell...Newt Gingrich...Rudy Giuliani...John Boehner.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 4:26:21 GMT
1) That wasn't a member of the press at a press conference...which is kind of what we're discussing here. 2) Yes, a Republican Congressman shouted "you lie" to Obama. He got "the look" and that was all he said. He didn't continue to yell over Obama. It was disrespectful, for sure...and I'm not saying it's not better or worse than what happened at the press conference. But it's not the same. Because a sitting Congressman should have more respect and decorum for the POTUS speaking then a member of the free press after a story. I was responding to the statement that "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" Which is simply not true. If you are trying to make the claim that I stated "No one on the right EVER treated Obama like that!" I would suggest you go back and re-read. I made it QUITE clear that I was specifically talking about the Press AT a Press Conference. In fact, my words were as follows: "Not even the rightest of the right wing news EVER shouted over Obama during a news conference" |
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