Stamp Positioner Lawsuit?

I see it sold out on Hochanda and other places seem to still be showing it for pre-order only. I really hope they continue!

Yes, I have them for sale at my store still.

I just pulled my misti out to take a photo to post, thank you for doing it first   

Thanks Kat!  I'll place an order as soon as the color I want is back in stock.

Also, I found the inscription.  I have to admit it does puzzle me why someone would stealthily inscribe a bible verse on a non-religious product.  

I am posting this on the stamp positioner threads because I haven't seen this bit of news anywhere yet. I just received this today for my TH stamping platform preorder from ACOT:

Hello!

Tonic, the manufacturer of the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform, has notified us of the launch of the new, improved Tim Holtz Stamping Platform Model 1707e in place of the Model 1708e as previously announced. They expect to start shipping the revised Model 1707e within the next 6 - 8 weeks. If we have further updates, we will pass it along to you.

Thanks for being so patient!

lilacgal So she has figured it out and knows some us are beyond mad about the verse and she doesn't want to get sued.

When I almost ordered the MISTI (before finding the big thread over here) she never had that verse listed on her site. I looked for it after I found out about the verse. I wondered why was she doing that. At first I was not mad about it. I thought maybe she was putting the verse on the press and donating some of the profits to a charity. I want to see what charity it was. I looked pretty hard all over her site for that verse.

I am with Gale if your milkshake was from In n Out that is ok, lol. I want one too. No seriously disposable items don't bother me. That is very common in my area. I know In n Out like Hobby Lobby is a Christian based company so walking in I already expect that. I also know that both companies donate a lot of their profits to charity too. Now, that My Sweet Petunia has sold over a million MISTI's is now considered to be a larger company where are her verse profits going to?

oaksong In my area yes there are Christians that do think subliminal conversion is a thing. They even have seminars on it. Funny but true. I have a friend that practices it. I love him to pieces but I am like "Don't!" He's a sweetie and he doesn't think he causes any harm.

Because the model number is going down instead of up, My first guess is that they are using a previous iteration of the design, rather than what they'd intended to sell.  It could also mean 7 hinge bits instead of 8 or something like that.  The words "new, improved" is just marketing.  LOL

Haha, maybe they're just taking out a hinge and telling themselves: "It'll hold up just as well!"
Or maybe ACOT just got their numbers wrong?

If they're indeed going for an earlier version, it sounds like they're going to be left with quite a bit of stock of the 1708 version to sell off on non-US markets.

I don't know why there'd be a law against someone putting a religious saying on a product they manufacture. If their customers don't like it, they can choose to not buy it or just cover it up. I would imagine it would be the same with a product that has a sports team on it- if I didn't like the team logo on it, I would either not buy it or just cover it up.

I find it interesting that JM hasn't been using her MISTI lately. In the video I just watched, it would have made sense to stamp the image a few times before embossing it, so I was sure she was going to pull it out. Nope. She used a regular acrylic block and stamped it only once. She used to use that thing in almost every video.

I don't think I'll be buying the Tonic/TH positioner, since I already have 3 others. I have the WRMK Precision Press, the small HA Stamp Perfect, and the large HA Stamp Perfect (a replacement from HA, since my small one had a misaligned grid). At the risk of having virtual tomatoes thrown at me, I have to say that Tim Holtz often releases products that have been "inspired" by other products already out on the market. He puts his own spin on them, but there is a definite resemblance, sometimes a close one. He has every right to do that. Companies do that all the time. He has also released some very original and unique products, which other companies have been "inspired" by. MSP was obviously inspired by the WRMK Letterpress when she designed her MISTI. However, the big difference to me is that other companies never went after the DIY-ers who shared ideas for making their own. I'm all for protecting your rights, but not at the expense of someone else's rights.

Stepping off my soapbox now.

I feel I'm in the minority of being in camp misti.

And that's okay. The peas in general can have strong opinions. Personally I like to read all sides of issues because then sometimes I find I've missed something. So I really do try to keep an open mind.

I just don't have respect for women stepping on other women while building their business so I choose not to line their pockets. But I do respect other's opinions if they differ from mine. I just shrug my shoulders and move on. 

People like what they like, and that's ok.

When the misti first came out, I cringed at the price, but I was planning on buying one anyway. Even though I could see that it would be pretty easy to replicate, I wanted to vote with my $$ and support an entrepreneur who seemed to have a great idea. 

Then she started up with threatening people who had made copies. I could ~somewhat~ see where she was coming from, but these were not people who were going to sell what they were making, and they were not people who were ever going to spend the $$ for hers, so they weren't costing her sales. So, I still thought I wanted one, but I was somewhat less enthusiastic. 

THEN she threatened a fan group on Facebook - who would have effectively INCREASED her sales, because they were people who had the darn things and liked using them - because the name MISTI was trademarked and she didn't give them permission to use it! The group had to change their name, but even that wasn't good enough for Queen Petunia, because if you looked at the URL of the group, it still had "misti" buried in it. They had to completely close down the group and rename it. About that same time, someone that I liked & admired on Splitcoast was banned from those boards because she had the unmitigated gall to question whether Jennifer McGuire had paid for hers, or whether it was given to her. That's when I decided that this was one entrepreneur that I wasn't going to support. And that was even before all the reports of the cracking and no warranty and the stealth religious verse was known.

I have the Tonic platform on preorder.