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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 3:35:54 GMT
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 28, 2017 3:37:23 GMT
I have no idea what is true and what isn't. I do know that Watergate took two years to uncover. If something is there, hopefully we will all find out about it.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2017 4:03:21 GMT
Hahahahaha!
The SAME James O'Keefe who has been busted multiple for editing videos to misrepresent the context of conversations and the subjects' responses?
The same James O' Keefe who was sued and had to pay $100,000 to his victim that he wrongly edited and accused of wrong doing who was fired because of him?
The same James O' Keefe who was commissioned by Breitbart to do pieces for them?
The same James O'Keefe who tried to set up a CNN reporter on camera by trying to seduce her with handcuffs, pornography, sexual aids, confirms...and then ended up having to pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars because of it?
He has a big boner for CNN because they have shed light on his slimey, scheming dishonesty.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 28, 2017 4:29:03 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 4:43:02 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. CNN supervising producer John Bonifield's own words were not created by a conservative provocateur. And what difference does it make what unit he works in when he's repeating CNN President Jeff Zucker's editorial input in an internal meeting he was involved in? He's describing the atmosphere and procedures of a place he works. Coming from the top.
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Post by Jili on Jun 28, 2017 4:43:56 GMT
LOL. I will never be able to view an O'Keefe video as having any kind of validity.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 28, 2017 5:20:51 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. CNN supervising producer John Bonifield's own words were not created by a conservative provocateur. And what difference does it make what unit he works in when he's repeating CNN President Jeff Zucker's editorial input in an internal meeting he was involved in? He's describing the atmosphere and procedures of a place he works. Coming from the top. LOL, the provocateur is well documented as editing and taking words out of context to present the message he wants. It is why he has zero credibility. Personally I think Zucker is right to keep the focus on Russia. It is a story that continues to unfold and develop. SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 9:55:00 GMT
How can you even say it's fake at this point....Trump is already blaming Obama!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2017 10:53:49 GMT
"The video taken by Project Veritas, the political group founded by the conservative provocateur James O’Keefe, shows a CNN producer from its medical coverage team commenting pointedly about the network’s coverage of the alleged ties between Trump and Russia. When asked by an unrevealed videographer why CNN has been aggressive in covering the story, the producer, John Bonifield, replied: "Because it's ratings." The video shows Bonifield being taped on several occasions, with his replies edited as a compilation.
Bonifield didn’t know that he was being taped, according to a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to comment publicly. The network is not disciplining Bonifield, and CNN editors are treating the comment as Bonifield’s personal thoughts expressed in a non-official capacity, the person said. "CNN stands by our medical producer John Bonifield. Diversity of personal opinion is what makes CNN strong, we welcome it and embrace it," CNN said in a statement. The O'Keefe associate who filmed Bonifield is not identified in the video. Bonifield has told colleagues at CNN that he met the videographer through a peer-mentoring program, and the associate represented himself as an aspiring journalist who wanted career guidance and mentoring, the person said. They met about five times, the person said. Steve Gordon, communications director at Project Veritas, didn't dispute the description of how Bonifield and its videographer met, and defended its use of undercover video. "That’s what Project Veritas does," he said. "We go undercover. Undercover video has been widely respected."
O’Keefe’s video and audio files — which are secretly recorded to show the workings of what he considers to be liberal organizations — are often criticized by media ethicists for selective editing and breaching the conventions of traditional broadcast journalism. O'Keefe and three other men pleaded guilty in federal court in 2010 for falsely representing themselves as telephone repairmen in the New Orleans office of Mary Landrieu, who was then a Democratic senator from Louisiana.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2017 11:06:11 GMT
Not undercover video from James Okeefe
He edits shit until it's unrecognizable, like those scam calls where they ask if you can hear them and when say sure you've just bought something expensive on your phone bill
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2017 11:11:41 GMT
Oh and your title is nothing more than a sensational lie,
The Project Veritas person is the one who actually led in with the "bullshit comment" as a question--
From the the video, the “PV journalist” says, “But honestly, you think the whole Russia sh*t is just like bullsh*t?” The man said to be Bonifield responds, “Could be bullsh*t. I mean, it’s mostly bullsh*t right now. Like, we don’t have any big giant proof.”
CONTEXT MATTERS.
I know YOU don't understand what context means given quite a lot of your posts, but it does matter and makes a difference in who said what in response to something.
"Could be bullshit" is NOT THE SAME as "CNN producer says "Russia coverage is mostly bullshit" as your title screams.
"I mean it's mostly bullshit right now." Followed by (in context) "Like we don't have any big giant proof" is what I would expect him to say knowing that Mueller is still investigating.
You do realize that CNN retracted and apologized for ONE storyline regarding ONE person and not all the other Russian collusion and connections right? It's not the entire Russian collusion that is with the ongoing investigations.
And, given your only comment & source in the OP, you shame yourself Gia--the same exact comment you made there is 100% factually true about the article & dishonest reporter you are using to support your own statement (OP) .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 16:59:47 GMT
Not undercover video from James Okeefe He edits shit until it's unrecognizable, like those scam calls where they ask if you can hear them and when say sure you've just bought something expensive on your phone bill James O’Keefe did not splice together words to create new sentences and claim John Bonifield said them. They are his own words, forming his own complete sentences. The meaning wasn't changed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 17:00:29 GMT
Oh and your title is nothing more than a sensational lie, The Project Veritas person is the one who actually led in with the "bullshit comment" as a question-- From the the video, the “PV journalist” says, “But honestly, you think the whole Russia sh*t is just like bullsh*t?” The man said to be Bonifield responds, “Could be bullsh*t. I mean, it’s mostly bullsh*t right now. Like, we don’t have any big giant proof.” CONTEXT MATTERS. I know YOU don't understand what context means given quite a lot of your posts, but it does matter and makes a difference in who said what in response to something. "Could be bullshit" is NOT THE SAME as "CNN producer says "Russia coverage is mostly bullshit" as your title screams. "I mean it's mostly bullshit right now." Followed by (in context) "Like we don't have any big giant proof" is what I would expect him to say knowing that Mueller is still investigating. You do realize that CNN retracted and apologized for ONE storyline regarding ONE person and not all the other Russian collusion and connections right? It's not the entire Russian collusion that is with the ongoing investigations. And, given your only comment & source in the OP, you shame yourself Gia--the same exact comment you made there is 100% factually true about the article & dishonest reporter you are using to support your own statement (OP) . How does "Like we don't have any big giant proof" change the meaning of "I mean it's mostly bullshit right now."?
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Post by peano on Jun 28, 2017 17:18:33 GMT
At this point, they are so early into the investigation that it is impossible to know what is going on. As someone said upthread, it took TWO YEARS to get to the bottom of Watergate, and that was entirely domestic, without the incredibly circuitous and complex international financial dealings they are having to wade through.
Also, the article quotes Bonifield, the CNN producer as saying, “I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the president committed a crime." Well duh. Nobody has seen any evidence except the people who are authorized to in mostly closed hearings. This argument is just patently ridiculous. Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing.
But most importantly, we KNOW our country was attacked by a foreign power who is our enemy, yet a sizable number of people such as yourself seem cavalier and unperturbed by this fact. Why? Aren't you concerned, aren't you enough of a patriot, don't you love your country enough to want to get to the bottom of what happened and to prevent it happening again? I really don't understand you people.
And for a BS investigation, there sure is a lot of lawyering up going on among the poo-bahs in the Trump administration.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 17:28:05 GMT
At this point, they are so early into the investigation that it is impossible to know what is going on. As someone said upthread, it took TWO YEARS to get to the bottom of Watergate, and that was entirely domestic, without the incredibly circuitous and complex international financial dealings they are having to wade through. Also, the article quotes Bonifield, the CNN producer as saying, “I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the president committed a crime." Well duh. Nobody has seen any evidence except the people who are authorized to in mostly closed hearings. This argument is just patently ridiculous. Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing. But most importantly, we KNOW our country was attacked by a foreign power who is our enemy, yet a sizable number of people such as yourself seem cavalier and unperturbed by this fact. Why? Aren't you concerned, aren't you enough of a patriot, don't you love your country enough to want to get to the bottom of what happened and to prevent it happening again? I really don't understand you people. And for a BS investigation, there sure is a lot of lawyering up going on among the poo-bahs in the Trump administration. My prediction is that Russia - Russia - Russia will become Monica Lewinsky for the Democrats. DISCLAIMER: I know one was about sex and this is about collusion with a foreign government. The polls have suggested that most Americans are already tired of R - R - R and wish their representatives would get on with the business of the people. SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 17:31:57 GMT
At this point, they are so early into the investigation that it is impossible to know what is going on. As someone said upthread, it took TWO YEARS to get to the bottom of Watergate, and that was entirely domestic, without the incredibly circuitous and complex international financial dealings they are having to wade through. Also, the article quotes Bonifield, the CNN producer as saying, “I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the president committed a crime." Well duh. Nobody has seen any evidence except the people who are authorized to in mostly closed hearings. This argument is just patently ridiculous. Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing.
But most importantly, we KNOW our country was attacked by a foreign power who is our enemy, yet a sizable number of people such as yourself seem cavalier and unperturbed by this fact. Why? Aren't you concerned, aren't you enough of a patriot, don't you love your country enough to want to get to the bottom of what happened and to prevent it happening again? I really don't understand you people. And for a BS investigation, there sure is a lot of lawyering up going on among the poo-bahs in the Trump administration. I didn't say the investigation is BS. The thread is about someone from CNN saying their own coverage of it is BS. You making the leap from one thing to another is what's illogical. Again, leaps and assumptions, that have nothing to do with what I've said. I really don't understand people such as yourself, that do that.
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Post by peano on Jun 28, 2017 17:38:32 GMT
I'm tired of people being murdered...so let's just move on with our lives and not try to bring the killer to justice.
I'm tired of people being abused and discriminated against because of their skin color, race, sexual orientation...and if i just put it out of my mind and don't think about it, it will soon be no biggie.
Yes, let's just set aside our moral beliefs, ethics and sense of justice. It's just SO HARD and too much work. We want platitudes, bluster and empty promises from that bloviating ignoramous in the WH. Jeez Louise, we have an opiate epidemic in this country, but we've also got a lack of moral center epidemic as well. Makes me afraid for my grandchildren.
And lastly, the representatives are doing exactly what you said--getting on with the business of the people, defending our Democratic principle of the election free from outside interference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 17:45:42 GMT
I'm tired of people being murdered...so let's just move on with our lives and not try to bring the killer to justice. I'm tired of people being abused and discriminated against because of their skin color, race, sexual orientation...and if i just put it out of my mind and don't think about it, it will soon be no biggie. Yes, let's just set aside our moral beliefs, ethics and sense of justice. It's just SO HARD and too much work. We want platitudes, bluster and empty promises from that bloviating ignoramous in the WH. Jeez Louise, we have an opiate epidemic in this country, but we've also got a lack of moral center epidemic as well. Makes me afraid for my grandchildren. And lastly, the representatives are doing exactly what you said--getting on with the business of the people, defending our Democratic principle of the election free from outside interference. "Bullshit coverage for the sake of ratings" does not accomplish that.
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Post by peano on Jun 28, 2017 17:46:02 GMT
At this point, they are so early into the investigation that it is impossible to know what is going on. As someone said upthread, it took TWO YEARS to get to the bottom of Watergate, and that was entirely domestic, without the incredibly circuitous and complex international financial dealings they are having to wade through. Also, the article quotes Bonifield, the CNN producer as saying, “I haven’t seen any good enough evidence to show that the president committed a crime." Well duh. Nobody has seen any evidence except the people who are authorized to in mostly closed hearings. This argument is just patently ridiculous. Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing.
But most importantly, we KNOW our country was attacked by a foreign power who is our enemy, yet a sizable number of people such as yourself seem cavalier and unperturbed by this fact. Why? Aren't you concerned, aren't you enough of a patriot, don't you love your country enough to want to get to the bottom of what happened and to prevent it happening again? I really don't understand you people. And for a BS investigation, there sure is a lot of lawyering up going on among the poo-bahs in the Trump administration. I didn't say the investigation is BS. The thread is about someone from CNN saying their own coverage of it is BS. You making the leap from one thing to another is what's illogical. Again, leaps and assumptions, that have nothing to do with what I've said. I really don't understand people such as yourself, that do that. I wasn't saying you said the investigation was BS. I was saying the CNN guy says the investigation is BS and that he is being illogical. No leaps Gia. No need to be so reactive. Perhaps I could have worded my sentence more clearly. And as for leaps and assumptions about your feelings about the cyberattack on our country, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about that. Because you are right, you haven't said anything about where you stand on that. We could bicker about this all day long, but that doesn't accomplish shit. Help me understand why you and many people don't seem upset by what happened. Because I got nuthin'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 18:06:59 GMT
I didn't say the investigation is BS. The thread is about someone from CNN saying their own coverage of it is BS. You making the leap from one thing to another is what's illogical. Again, leaps and assumptions, that have nothing to do with what I've said. I really don't understand people such as yourself, that do that. I wasn't saying you said the investigation was BS. I was saying the CNN guy says the investigation is BS and that he is being illogical. No leaps Gia. No need to be so reactive. Perhaps I could have worded my sentence more clearly. And as for leaps and assumptions about your feelings about the cyberattack on our country, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about that. Because you are right, you haven't said anything about where you stand on that. We could bicker about this all day long, but that doesn't accomplish shit. Help me understand why you and many people don't seem upset by what happened. Because I got nuthin'. That's exactly what you were saying, because your sentence makes no sense otherwise. "Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing." It clearly states an opinion formed by someone, based on what HE said. It doesn't make sense that you were talking about how he formed HIS opinion based on what HE himself said. You wouldn't have said that. No one on the planet would have said that. Your explanation back peddle makes no sense, whatsoever. So you, yourself admit your sentence wasn't worded clearly enough sure, that's it. and then you take me to task for taking it as it was said. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 28, 2017 18:38:24 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. Yeah...it's not like it's Van Jones whose area at CNN is political coverage.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2017 18:38:37 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. I'm just going to repeat this comment here because the OP seems to have missed it, or maybe just DISmissed it. A CNN producer in the medical unit is just as entitled to his opinion about political coverage as I am, but he's certainly no more of an expert and is unlikely to have some kind of secret knowledge the rest of us aren't privy to.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2017 18:39:50 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. Yeah...it's not like it's Van Jones whose area at CNN is political coverage. ?? What did Van Jones do/say?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 28, 2017 18:40:55 GMT
Hahahahaha! The SAME James O'Keefe who has been busted multiple for editing videos to misrepresent the context of conversations and the subjects' responses? The same James O' Keefe who was sued and had to pay $100,000 to his victim that he wrongly edited and accused of wrong doing who was fired because of him? The same James O' Keefe who was commissioned by Breitbart to do pieces for them? The same James O'Keefe who tried to set up a CNN reporter on camera by trying to seduce her with handcuffs, pornography, sexual aids, confirms...and then ended up having to pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars because of it? He has a big boner for CNN because they have shed light on his slimey, scheming dishonesty. And also the same O'Keefe that Sarah Huckabee Sanders encouraged everyone to listen to yesterday, even if she didn't have knowledge of what he was saying was accurate or not.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 28, 2017 18:42:56 GMT
Hahahahaha! The SAME James O'Keefe who has been busted multiple for editing videos to misrepresent the context of conversations and the subjects' responses? The same James O' Keefe who was sued and had to pay $100,000 to his victim that he wrongly edited and accused of wrong doing who was fired because of him? The same James O' Keefe who was commissioned by Breitbart to do pieces for them? The same James O'Keefe who tried to set up a CNN reporter on camera by trying to seduce her with handcuffs, pornography, sexual aids, confirms...and then ended up having to pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars because of it? He has a big boner for CNN because they have shed light on his slimey, scheming dishonesty. 2Peas best comeback of the week!
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 28, 2017 18:43:14 GMT
Yeah...it's not like it's Van Jones whose area at CNN is political coverage. ?? What did Van Jones do/say? Van Jones bio:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 18:43:53 GMT
A CNN producer that works in the medical unit giving his opinion of the network political coverage on a heavily edited tape created by a known conservative provocateur and creator of fake news. Yeah...it's not like it's Van Jones whose area at CNN is political coverage. But, but, but context. But, but, but it's just one guy. But, but, but he's not in political coverage.
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Post by peano on Jun 28, 2017 18:46:40 GMT
I wasn't saying you said the investigation was BS. I was saying the CNN guy says the investigation is BS and that he is being illogical. No leaps Gia. No need to be so reactive. Perhaps I could have worded my sentence more clearly. And as for leaps and assumptions about your feelings about the cyberattack on our country, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about that. Because you are right, you haven't said anything about where you stand on that. We could bicker about this all day long, but that doesn't accomplish shit. Help me understand why you and many people don't seem upset by what happened. Because I got nuthin'. That's exactly what you were saying, because your sentence makes no sense otherwise. "Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing." It clearly states an opinion formed by someone, based on what HE said. It doesn't make sense that you were talking about how he formed HIS opinion based on what HE himself said. You wouldn't have said that. No one on the planet would have said that. Your explanation back peddle makes no sense, whatsoever. So you, yourself admit your sentence wasn't worded clearly enough sure, that's it. and then you take me to task for taking it as it was said. Yeah, that makes sense. OK. Let's just assume for the hell of it that you have the magical ability to know what's in my own mind better than I do. You still haven't shared why you don't seem concerned about an attack on our country. I'd be interested to hear your reasons. I suspect that today, as always, your motivation is to stir shit rather than have a conversation. I hope that's not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 18:58:21 GMT
That's exactly what you were saying, because your sentence makes no sense otherwise. "Saying an investigation is BS because one guy says so is illogical and proves nothing." It clearly states an opinion formed by someone, based on what HE said. It doesn't make sense that you were talking about how he formed HIS opinion based on what HE himself said. You wouldn't have said that. No one on the planet would have said that. Your explanation back peddle makes no sense, whatsoever. So you, yourself admit your sentence wasn't worded clearly enough sure, that's it. and then you take me to task for taking it as it was said. Yeah, that makes sense. OK. Let's just assume for the hell of it that you have the magical ability to know what's in my own mind better than I do. You still haven't shared why you don't seem concerned about an attack on our country. I'd be interested to hear your reasons. I suspect that today, as always, your motivation is to stir shit rather than have a conversation. I hope that's not the case. I don't claim to know what's in your mind, I only know what you write here and that's all I'm referring to. This thread is about untruthful, biased news, so that's why I'm having a conversation about untruthful, biased news. According to the "rules" thrown at me all the time by a select majority here, any attempt by (you, in this case) to bring another topic in, is nothing more than stirring the shit and not participation in the conversation. (according to your side) So congratulations for stirring the shit according to "your side".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 19:27:50 GMT
OK. Let's just assume for the hell of it that you have the magical ability to know what's in my own mind better than I do. You still haven't shared why you don't seem concerned about an attack on our country. I'd be interested to hear your reasons. I suspect that today, as always, your motivation is to stir shit rather than have a conversation. I hope that's not the case. I don't claim to know what's in your mind, I only know what you write here and that's all I'm referring to. This thread is about untruthful, biased news, so that's why I'm having a conversation about untruthful, biased news. According to the "rules" thrown at me all the time by a select majority here, any attempt by (you, in this case) to bring another topic in, is nothing more than stirring the shit and not participation in the conversation. (according to your side) So congratulations for stirring the shit according to "your side". Ok then why didn't you pick Fox News? Why did you pick CNN? What has happened the last couple of days is not the norm for CNN.
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