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Post by delilahtwo on Jun 28, 2017 21:58:28 GMT
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this is from pundit facts....
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Post by delilahtwo on Jun 28, 2017 22:00:41 GMT
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just so you can see these in the same post and compare more easily.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:01:09 GMT
CNN was just caught on tape saying these things and a thread was created about it, does not equal giving Fox a pass. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CNN's screw up has nothing to do with Fox. Gia do you not see the irony in this statement of yours? When you bring up Democrats and Hilary any chance you get when anybody is critical of Trump? Mentioning Fox here is similar to what you do when you mention Hilary all the time. It's pretty funny that you don't want people to mention other networks here when you constantly bring up other politicians in defense of Trump. For the 4955494504th time, it's not defending Trump, it's asking why (general) you were okay with it when Hill/Bill/Obama said/did it (as in specific threads about it and making excuses, mental gymnastics, personal attacks, etc) and now your head is exploding when Trump does it. That isn't what's happening here though, there weren't 4955494504 threads with me defending Fox or making excuses, doing mental gymnastics, personally attacking those pointing out Fox's problems, etc., so no irony involved.
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Post by delilahtwo on Jun 28, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
yup lots of irony, you just can't see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:02:47 GMT
yup lots of irony, you just can't see it. No, you see it where it doesn't exist. #Context.
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Post by delilahtwo on Jun 28, 2017 22:04:52 GMT
CNN was just caught on tape saying these things and a thread was created about it, does not equal giving Fox a pass. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CNN's screw up has nothing to do with Fox. you said this upthread. A corollory....any lies Donald Trump is making have nothing to do with Hilary. See what I did there?
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Post by jayfab on Jun 28, 2017 22:06:10 GMT
You know what I find disgusting in all of this. CNN journalists resigned when the got it wrong, good for them. But Sarah Huckabee stands in front of cameras and the citizens of the United States as a representative of this administration and blatantly promotes a video that she hasn't verified to be accurate! Why in hell would you reference a questionable video??? This administration is playing games and it's disgusting. DISGUSTING.
Her words: There's a video circulating now, whether it's accurate or not, I don't know, but I would encourage everybody in this room and, frankly, everybody across the country, to take a look at it. I think if it is accurate, I think it's a disgrace to all of media, to all of journalism. I think that we have gone to a place where, if the media can't be trusted to report the news, then that's a dangerous place for America. I think if that's the place that certain outlets are going, particularly for the purposes of spiking ratings, I think that's even more scary, and certainly more disgraceful.
again this administration is DISGUSTING
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 28, 2017 22:07:52 GMT
You asked why I didn't pick Fox News for this thread. Aside from the obvious answer right there in the OP, I answered you. If you want to keep playing dumb, go for it. "As if CNN hadn't already repeatedly proven they're full of bull shit and not to be trusted" "This thread is about untruthful, biased news, so that's why I'm having a conversation about untruthful, biased news. " "Because Fox isn't the one caught on tape saying "their coverage is bullshit" and a "nothing burger". That's why. Pretty obvious that's what prompted the thread. I guess your answer is in your 2nd and third quotes. This is a thread about "untruthful biased news" but only if it's caught on tape. And because Fox News delivers "untruthful biased" news everyday on air it's ok. Or not worthy of you starting a specific thread as you did for CNN news. Got it. Just because Fox News doesn't admit that they are leaders of fake news doesn't mean that it isn't true. That is their MO so of course they aren't going to retract stories left and right or have their reporters resign when they have done wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:09:04 GMT
Well maybe if you answer my question why you chose CNN over Fox, she'll answer yours. I actually looked up several of your examples you know to get the rest of the story. What I found was sloppy reporting. The difference between Fox and CNN in their misinformation is that Fox is very deliberate in their releasing misinformation while CNN got sloppy in their race to find "breaking news". I like to know the whole story based on facts so I'm never happy when I'm mislead. And it's even worse when a news outlet is deliberate in their goal to mislead the public with their reporting. And while I'm not excusing CNN for their sloppiness it pales in comparison to what Fox News is doing. I answered your question. Several times. So now, by your "rules" she can answer my question. The rest of your post is just more excuses and deflection by you. CNN got it wrong. A lot. And it's much more than sloppy reporting. You must not have actually "got the rest of the story". Nice try though. How am I playing by my rules when all I'm doing, using your quotes, is trying to find out why , if this is thread is about what you quoted "This thread is about untruthful, biased news" you choose CNN over Fox News? Its a simple question. And no, you have not answered it. You've done a lot of "mental gymnastics" though. I have to say that since the election I have learned three terms. "Learned helplessness" and "motivated ignorance " and "mental gymnastics".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
I answered your question. Several times. So now, by your "rules" she can answer my question. The rest of your post is just more excuses and deflection by you. CNN got it wrong. A lot. And it's much more than sloppy reporting. You must not have actually "got the rest of the story". Nice try though. How am I playing by my rules when all I'm doing, using your quotes, is trying to find out why , if this is thread is about what you quoted "This thread is about untruthful, biased news" you choose CNN over Fox News? Its a simple question. And no, you have not answered it. You've done a lot of "mental gymnastics" though. I have to say that since the election I have learned three terms. "Learned helplessness" and "motivated ignorance " and "mental gymnastics". You have certainly demonstrated "motivated ignorance" very well.
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Post by jayfab on Jun 28, 2017 22:20:02 GMT
What the latest James O’Keefe video leaves out
O'Keefe is SO honorable just a few snippets: Yet the video includes several journalistic evasions and shortcuts that would likely elicit outrage from critics if a mainstream news organization had employed the same techniques. For example, it never mentions that Bonifield is a producer of health and medical stories, raising questions about how relevant his views are, and how informed he is, about CNN’s political coverage. It also doesn’t disclose that he is based in Atlanta — not in Washington or New York, where most of CNN’s coverage of national affairs and politics are produced. Instead, the video identifies him a “supervising producer,” suggesting a senior decision-making role. O’Keefe, who appears on the video as a kind of master of ceremonies, furthers this impression by saying the footage describes “the real motivation behind our dominant media organizations.” But CNN said Bonifield speaks only for himself. In a statement, it said stood by him and that “diversity of personal opinion is what makes CNN strong. We welcome it and embrace it.” The network said it had no plans to take any disciplinary action. The video also doesn’t identify the man to whom Bonifield is speaking, nor does it provide any clue about how he came to record Bonifield. Project Veritas, which is headed by O’Keefe, regularly uses such methods in order to expose what it says is corruption and fraud. Its operatives often have gained access to their targets by using false identities and by lying about or failing to disclose their actual intentions. Its various projects have also been clouded by accusations of deceptive editing. O’Keefe pleaded guilty in 2010 to unlawfully entering the New Orleans office of then-Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) after he and three associates went to the office dressed as telephone workers in an alleged attempt to tamper with the senator’s phones. He received three years of probation, a fine of $1,500 and 100 hours of community service. Later that year, O’Keefe attempted to lure a CNN correspondent, Abbie Boudreau, onto a boat filled with sex toys in order to film the encounter and “punk” Boudreau, who was reporting a story on conservative filmmakers. Among the props O’Keefe reportedly intended to use were a jar filled with condoms, posters and paintings of naked women, fuzzy handcuffs and a blindfold. Boudreau declined the invitation.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 28, 2017 22:20:30 GMT
Gia do you not see the irony in this statement of yours? When you bring up Democrats and Hilary any chance you get when anybody is critical of Trump? Mentioning Fox here is similar to what you do when you mention Hilary all the time. It's pretty funny that you don't want people to mention other networks here when you constantly bring up other politicians in defense of Trump. For the 4955494504th time, it's not defending Trump, it's asking why (general) you were okay with it when Hill/Bill/Obama said/did it (as in specific threads about it and making excuses, mental gymnastics, personal attacks, etc) and now your head is exploding when Trump does it. That isn't what's happening here though, there weren't 4955494504 threads with me defending Fox or making excuses, doing mental gymnastics, personally attacking those pointing out Fox's problems, etc., so no irony involved. But why don't you point it out when Fox does it? Is it because you feel, rightly or wrongly, that CNN is liberal? Seems like a double standard.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:20:44 GMT
How am I playing by my rules when all I'm doing, using your quotes, is trying to find out why , if this is thread is about what you quoted "This thread is about untruthful, biased news" you choose CNN over Fox News? Its a simple question. And no, you have not answered it. You've done a lot of "mental gymnastics" though. I have to say that since the election I have learned three terms. "Learned helplessness" and "motivated ignorance " and "mental gymnastics". You have certainly illustrated "motivated ignorance" very well. Another deflection and you still haven't answered the question. Why is so hard for you to answer the question?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2017 22:33:33 GMT
For the 4955494504th time, it's not defending Trump, it's asking why (general) you were okay with it when Hill/Bill/Obama said/did it (as in specific threads about it and making excuses, mental gymnastics, personal attacks, etc) and now your head is exploding when Trump does it. That isn't what's happening here though, there weren't 4955494504 threads with me defending Fox or making excuses, doing mental gymnastics, personally attacking those pointing out Fox's problems, etc., so no irony involved. But why don't you point it out when Fox does it? Is it because you feel, rightly or wrongly, that CNN is liberal? Seems like a double standard. She chooses to post about anything that bashes liberals. She has a pattern and predictability. I bet She's going to turn around and start calling posters hypocritical.
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Post by elaine on Jun 28, 2017 22:41:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:50:29 GMT
You have certainly illustrated "motivated ignorance" very well. Another deflection and you still haven't answered the question. Why is so hard for you to answer the question? I answered it. More than once. Go back and look.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:54:20 GMT
For the 4955494504th time, it's not defending Trump, it's asking why (general) you were okay with it when Hill/Bill/Obama said/did it (as in specific threads about it and making excuses, mental gymnastics, personal attacks, etc) and now your head is exploding when Trump does it. That isn't what's happening here though, there weren't 4955494504 threads with me defending Fox or making excuses, doing mental gymnastics, personally attacking those pointing out Fox's problems, etc., so no irony involved. But why don't you point it out when Fox does it? Is it because you feel, rightly or wrongly, that CNN is liberal? Seems like a double standard. Whenever it comes up someone has already pointed it out before I log on, so no need for me to.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 22:55:50 GMT
Another deflection and you still haven't answered the question. Why is so hard for you to answer the question? I answered it. More than once. Go back and look. Show me...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 23:20:24 GMT
I think CNN has had to retract quite a few stories just in the month of June alone. If I didn't have such a headache, I'd do some google searching. So take my word for it....or, don't. Do you see what you just did here? Have you been studying the lying strategies of the dumbass in the WH in your spare time? You just pulled some random claim out of your ass with no verification or basis in reality like a big old toxic fart, and then back away, leaving it hanging. Sad. I've heard the claims on the news, asshole. I said I'd google it but I had a headache. Fred didn't find anything, Gia did. So what's my next move supposed to be? This place has turned into a big fucking research project where everything needs to be backed up with fucking links so it can all be fucking verified. THAT is sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 23:27:33 GMT
Do you see what you just did here? Have you been studying the lying strategies of the dumbass in the WH in your spare time? You just pulled some random claim out of your ass with no verification or basis in reality like a big old toxic fart, and then back away, leaving it hanging. Sad. I've heard the claims on the news, asshole. I said I'd google it but I had a headache. Fred didn't find anything, Gia did. So what's my next move supposed to be? This place has turned into a big fucking research project where everything needs to be backed up with fucking links so it can all be fucking verified. THAT is sad. After reading your last paragraph that must be some headache you have. To do the reverse by not providing facts would invite lies and misinformation. And I think you might agree one of the reasons there are so many problems is the lack of facts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 23:34:30 GMT
I've heard the claims on the news, asshole. I said I'd google it but I had a headache. Fred didn't find anything, Gia did. So what's my next move supposed to be? This place has turned into a big fucking research project where everything needs to be backed up with fucking links so it can all be fucking verified. THAT is sad. After reading your last paragraph that must be some headache you have. To do the reverse by not providing facts would invite lies and misinformation. And I think you might agree one of the reasons there are so many problems is the lack of facts. Yeah, I have a big fucking migraine. What's really sad is Peas don't believe people here anymore. You (general you) can't post anything without people demanding links and proof. It's a frickin' message board, we're not doing research papers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 23:42:42 GMT
After reading your last paragraph that must be some headache you have. To do the reverse by not providing facts would invite lies and misinformation. And I think you might agree one of the reasons there are so many problems is the lack of facts. Yeah, I have a big fucking migraine. What's really sad is Peas don't believe people here anymore. You (general you) can't post anything without people demanding links and proof. It's a frickin' message board, we're not doing research papers. It's not sad, it's a new reality in the world of fake news. And information is exchanged here so as we exchange information based on facts we should make effort in what we blab about be accurate. I hope the headache goes away soon. I don't get migraines but know people who do and it's not fun.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 28, 2017 23:45:53 GMT
After reading your last paragraph that must be some headache you have. To do the reverse by not providing facts would invite lies and misinformation. And I think you might agree one of the reasons there are so many problems is the lack of facts. Yeah, I have a big fucking migraine. What's really sad is Peas don't believe people here anymore. You (general you) can't post anything without people demanding links and proof. It's a frickin' message board, we're not doing research papers. It was like that on the old board-but worse. You never, ever wrote something that you couldn't back up.
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Post by LiLi on Jun 28, 2017 23:52:57 GMT
Gia, you provide reliably predictable responses. It's somehow oddly comforting in these roller-coaster days we've had since the inauguration. ![](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r481/2peasrefugees/Smilies/wink.jpg.gif) And you (along with a few others) provide reliably predictable personal attacks to deflect from views and truths you don't like. What is good for the goose is good for the gander! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 23:54:46 GMT
Yeah, I have a big fucking migraine. What's really sad is Peas don't believe people here anymore. You (general you) can't post anything without people demanding links and proof. It's a frickin' message board, we're not doing research papers. It was like that on the old board-but worse. You never, ever wrote something that you couldn't back up. I never much paid attention I guess. I mean...I started a thread about someone who died-will people not believe me if I don't post a pic of the death certificate? I started a thread a while ago about a dead opossum in our pool-I guess I should've posted a pic so I could prove it. I look at this place to be somewhere to come for entertainment, learning a few things here and there, and reading some debates. I never expected to be basically considered a liar. Disagree with me, fine. A liar? I don't think so.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 0:08:13 GMT
Yeah, I have a big fucking migraine. What's really sad is Peas don't believe people here anymore. You (general you) can't post anything without people demanding links and proof. It's a frickin' message board, we're not doing research papers. It's not sad, it's a new reality in the world of fake news. And information is exchanged here so as we exchange information based on facts we should make effort in what we blab about be accurate. I hope the headache goes away soon. I don't get migraines but know people who do and it's not fun. So what is one to do when they heard things on the news, or on the radio in the car? They should never, ever post it because it can't be verified? Watch out next time I get stomach flu, I just might have to post proof. And yes, migraines absolutely suck. I'm waiting to get into a neurologist to hopefully get some medication relief. And before I get hand-slapped for going off topic here on this thread, I'll move along.
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Post by elaine on Jun 29, 2017 0:45:24 GMT
@devildog , I'm sorry you're suffering from f'ing migraines. I hope you feel better soon.
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Post by mom26 on Jun 29, 2017 1:03:22 GMT
All I see is Dems/Libs refusing to acknowledge their own self-imposed implosion. It's freakin' hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 1:27:06 GMT
All I see is Dems/Libs refusing to acknowledge their own self-imposed implosion. It's freakin' hilarious. And what I think is freakin' hilarious is when the crow and bluejay that hang out in a tree across the way get ahold of a peanut in the shell. They look pretty funny carrying it. Isn't it funny what we find freakin' hilarious?
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Post by Merge on Jun 29, 2017 1:37:59 GMT
It was like that on the old board-but worse. You never, ever wrote something that you couldn't back up. I never much paid attention I guess. I mean...I started a thread about someone who died-will people not believe me if I don't post a pic of the death certificate? I started a thread a while ago about a dead opossum in our pool-I guess I should've posted a pic so I could prove it. I look at this place to be somewhere to come for entertainment, learning a few things here and there, and reading some debates. I never expected to be basically considered a liar. Disagree with me, fine. A liar? I don't think so. Please be assured that it's the news sources people potentially distrust and not you personally. I hope you feel better soon!
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