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Post by hop2 on Jul 22, 2017 18:01:54 GMT
I don't think my heart can take another 3.5 years of this crap. I don't know what's going to kill me faster, the Trump administration or the people who defend it! Write a memoir for your great grand descendants. They might be interested in how the hell people survived in this era. There isn't enough alcohol to drown it all out. Insert a few paper clippings similar to the Nixon one to show the intensity of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 18:05:41 GMT
Walter Shaub ,when he was on Rachel Maddow on Wednesday, said there was a very specific order on who is name as interim head of the department until a replacement is chosen. The next person in line was a woman, can't remember her name, who Shaub described as tough as nails and very experienced. He also said to watch to see if the trump administration would skip over the experienced tough as nail next person in line for someone more receptive. They did and this is the guy who signed off on Jared's revised form where he forgot 70 plus undisclosed assets.
From Politico..
Trump names acting director for Office of Government Ethics
By NEGASSI TESFAMICHAEL 07/21/2017 01:40 PM EDT Updated 07/21/2017 03
President Donald Trump designated a long-time ethics expert as acting director for the Office of Government Ethics Thursday following the resignation of former director Walter Shaub.
David Apol, who worked as the ethics office's general counsel since January 2014, will lead the White House office designed to prevent conflicts of interest, OGE said in a Friday statement.
Apol "is honored to continue his 30 years of service to the ethics community" in the new job, the statement said.
A permanent director, who would have to be confirmed by the Senate, has not been announced by the White House yet.
Shaub, who took a job as senior director at the Campaign Legal Center after he resigned, criticized Trump's decision not to nominate a long-term replacement — and he said by elevating the general counsel instead of the office's chief of staff, the president inappropriately interfered at the agency.
“It’s unfortunate that the White House decided to play politics with the interim director role," Shaub said. "If they have someone they like, they should formally nominate that person to be permanent director. This sort of political interference creates the appearance that the White House may be hoping to engineer looser oversight by reaching down and leapfrogging a career employee over his own supervisor temporarily."
Corey Goldstone, a spokesman for the Campaign Legal Center, told POLITICO in an email that an acting director can lead the office for 210 days. If the White House nominates a permanent leader, the 210-day clock starts over.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 22, 2017 18:08:10 GMT
In The NY Times interview trump rambled on about health care and how a young person pays x $ and when he gets old he will have a nice tidy sum. At first, as usual, some couldn't figure out what he was talking about. Then it was decided he may have been confusing health care insurance with life insurance. I believe this tweet may have confirmed that... Why does Trump think health insurance costs $12/year? Because Gerber advertises life insurance for babies on Fox News for about that price." Ei-yi-yi
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 18:13:24 GMT
And how well is this working out?
From the Hill. 7/15/2016..
Trump: 'I’m so stable you wouldn’t believe it’ BY MARK HENSCH - 07/15/16 12:29 PM EDT 159 11,714 Trump: 'I’m so stable you wouldn’t believe it’
Donald Trump says he is not the careless and unpredictable character his critics frequently portray him as.
“I’m a very stable person,” he said in an interview with Time published Thursday. "I’m so stable you wouldn’t believe it.
“We need a strong tone and a compassionate tone, and I can do both, plus what’s up here,” Trump added, pointing at his temple. "I think temperament is my strength, my greatest strength. “I’m not a fast trigger. I’m the exact opposite of a fast trigger, but nobody’s going to push us around. I think my ideas are really good.”
Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, said he also disagrees with the idea that he is a political novice.
“It’s not like I’ve not been in politics, but just not on this side of the ledger,” he said. "I’ve always rated experience far less than capability. When people ask me, ‘Would you rather have experience or talent?’ I’ll take talent every time. That’s not to knock experience, and I think I have both.”
Trump, who defeated 16 rivals in the Republican presidential primary, also said he cannot explain his political success so far.
“Why is it? Because — I don’t know. It’s just different,” he said. "It’s like, why is it that Jack Nicklaus won so many golf tournaments? Right?
“Why is it that Babe Ruth could hit more home runs than all the teams in the American League?” Trump continued.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 22, 2017 18:14:20 GMT
Walter Shaub ,when he was on Rachel Maddow on Wednesday, said there was a very specific order on who is name as interim head of the department until a replacement is chosen. The next person in line was a woman, can't remember her name, who Shaub described as tough as nails and very experienced. He also said to watch to see if the trump administration would skip over the experienced tough as nail next person in line for someone more receptive. They did and this is the guy who signed off on Jared's revised form where he forgot 70 plus undisclosed assets. From Politico.. Trump names acting director for Office of Government Ethics By NEGASSI TESFAMICHAEL 07/21/2017 01:40 PM EDT Updated 07/21/2017 03 President Donald Trump designated a long-time ethics expert as acting director for the Office of Government Ethics Thursday following the resignation of former director Walter Shaub. David Apol, who worked as the ethics office's general counsel since January 2014, will lead the White House office designed to prevent conflicts of interest, OGE said in a Friday statement. Apol "is honored to continue his 30 years of service to the ethics community" in the new job, the statement said. A permanent director, who would have to be confirmed by the Senate, has not been announced by the White House yet. Shaub, who took a job as senior director at the Campaign Legal Center after he resigned, criticized Trump's decision not to nominate a long-term replacement — and he said by elevating the general counsel instead of the office's chief of staff, the president inappropriately interfered at the agency.“It’s unfortunate that the White House decided to play politics with the interim director role," Shaub said. "If they have someone they like, they should formally nominate that person to be permanent director. This sort of political interference creates the appearance that the White House may be hoping to engineer looser oversight by reaching down and leapfrogging a career employee over his own supervisor temporarily." Corey Goldstone, a spokesman for the Campaign Legal Center, told POLITICO in an email that an acting director can lead the office for 210 days. If the White House nominates a permanent leader, the 210-day clock starts over. WTH is the President the one who decides the leader of the Office of Government Ethics? Checks & balances, my ***.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 22, 2017 19:34:29 GMT
How can he pardon himself? Can this get any more absurd? He really does seem to think he's a king instead of the president. We shouldn't kid ourselves. At this point, he's pretty much set things up so that king is exactly what he is.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 22, 2017 19:42:08 GMT
He really does seem to think he's a king instead of the president. We shouldn't kid ourselves. At this point, he's pretty much set things up so that king is exactly what he is. Trying to, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 23:58:08 GMT
Excerpt from his speech on the new aircraft carrier today..
"Speaking aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford, Trump extolled the virtues of the “wonderful, beautiful but very, very powerful” nuclear-powered warship — “We will win, win, win,” he said, “we will never lose” — but also decried the budget compromise known as sequestration, which requires mandatory and corresponding military and domestic cuts.
Trump promised to try to restore higher levels of military funding but also urged the crowd of about 6,500 — many in uniform — to help him push this year’s budget, in which he said he will seek an additional $54 billion in defense spending, through Congress.
“I don’t mind getting a little hand, so call that congressman and call that senator and make sure you get it,” he said, to applause. “And by the way, you can also call those senators to make sure you get health care.”
But Trump’s brief appeal created a potentially awkward tableau at a commissioning event intended to be ceremonial — a commander in chief offering political remarks, and what could even be construed as an order, to the naval officers he commands."
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Post by linda~lou on Jul 23, 2017 2:03:47 GMT
I don't think I'll be alive in 25 years, but I sure wish I could read what the history books are going to say about this bloke.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 23, 2017 4:20:01 GMT
Excerpt from his speech on the new aircraft carrier today.. "Speaking aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford, Trump extolled the virtues of the “wonderful, beautiful but very, very powerful” nuclear-powered warship — “We will win, win, win,” he said, “we will never lose” — but also decried the budget compromise known as sequestration, which requires mandatory and corresponding military and domestic cuts. Trump promised to try to restore higher levels of military funding but also urged the crowd of about 6,500 — many in uniform — to help him push this year’s budget, in which he said he will seek an additional $54 billion in defense spending, through Congress. “I don’t mind getting a little hand, so call that congressman and call that senator and make sure you get it,” he said, to applause. “And by the way, you can also call those senators to make sure you get health care.” But Trump’s brief appeal created a potentially awkward tableau at a commissioning event intended to be ceremonial — a commander in chief offering political remarks, and what could even be construed as an order, to the naval officers he commands."
🚫 #MAGA He just never stops being a total jackass creeper, does he?
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jul 23, 2017 9:39:36 GMT
Speaking about creepers (of various kinds) a little slip of paper just fell out of a book I was tossing into a donation box- regret I cannot attribute the quote:
"Do not strain after great* people for, although they like the homage inasmuch as it flatters their vanity, they yet despise the dispenser of it."
*questionable when it comes to you-know-who. Spicer. The Personal lawyer who just quit (not totally but as lead of the T team). Pretty sure he despises them and many others in his circle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 14:53:08 GMT
David Axelrod.....
."@scaramucci: "why don't we focus on the agenda and not all this other nonsense." Perhaps he should take it up with the Tweeter in Chief."
Good idea.
Here's Robert Reich's 6 month update on what trump has done that was reprinted by Bill Moyers & Co.
Anything positive here?
This post first appeared at Robert Reich’s website.
So after six months, has he delivered what he promised you?
1. He told you he’d repeal Obamacare and replace it with something “beautiful.” You bought it. But he didn’t repeal and he didn’t replace. (Just as well: His plan would have knocked at least 22 million off health insurance, including many of you.)
2. He told you he’d cut your taxes. You bought it. But tax “reform” is stalled. And if it ever moves, the only ones whose taxes will be cut are the wealthy.
3. He told you he’d invest $1 billion in our nation’s crumbling infrastructure. You bought it. But his infrastructure plan, which was really a giveaway to rich investors, is also stalled.
So after six months, has he delivered what he promised you? 4. He said he’d clean the Washington swamp. You bought it. But he’s brought into his administration more billionaires, CEOs and Wall Street moguls than in any administration in history, to make laws that will enrich their businesses, along with former lobbyists, lawyers and consultants who are crafting new policies for the same industries they recently worked for.
5. He said he’d use his business experience to whip the White House into shape. You bought it. But he created the most chaotic, dysfunctional, back-stabbing White House in modern history, in which no one is in charge.
6. He said he’d close “special-interest loopholes that have been so good for Wall Street investors but unfair to American workers.“ You bought it. But he picked a Wall Street financier Stephen Schwarzman to run his strategic and policy forum, who compares closing those loopholes to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.
7. He told you he’d “bring down drug prices” by making deals with drug companies. You bought it. But now the White House says that promise is “inoperative.”
8. He said that on Day One he’d label China a “currency manipulator.” You bought it. But then he met with China’s president and declared, “China is not a currency manipulator.”
9. He said he wouldn’t bomb Syria. You bought it. But then he bombed Syria.
10. He called Barack Obama “the vacationer-in-chief” and accused him of playing more rounds of golf than Tiger Woods. He promised to never be the kind of president who took cushy vacations on the taxpayer’s dime, not when there was so much important work to be done. You bought it. But in his first six months he has spent more taxpayer money on vacations than Obama did in the first three years of his presidency. Not to mention all the money taxpayers are spending protecting his family, including his two sons who travel all over the world on Trump business.
11. He said he’d force companies to keep jobs in America. You believed him. But despite their promises, Carrier, Ford, GM and the rest are shipping jobs to Mexico and China.
12. He said he’d create coal jobs. You believe him. He hasn’t. But here’s what he has done: Since 1965 a federal program called the Appalachian Regional Commission has spent $23 billion helping communities in coal states fund job retraining, reclaim land and provide desperately needed social services. ARC helped cut poverty rates almost in half, double the percentage of high-school graduates, and reduce infant mortality by two-thirds. Trump’s first proposed budget eliminates ARC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 17:14:50 GMT
Jake Tapper...
"White House communications director says President still doesn't accept US intelligence conclusion on Russia"
Well that's problematic for future intelligence he's told.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 17:16:41 GMT
Justin Green...
"Aides say the quickest way to get Trump to do something is to tell him he can't"
Why am I not surprised.
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Post by wellway on Jul 23, 2017 18:44:37 GMT
busy I checked to see if it was Jack Monroe, the British cook and it was but I noticed she has tweeted it is parody.
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Jul 23, 2017 19:05:17 GMT
Jake Tapper... "White House communications director says President still doesn't accept US intelligence conclusion on Russia" Well that's problematic for future intelligence he's told. 😲 😵😐😳
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:30:39 GMT
From the idiot in the White House..
"It's very sad that Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very little to protect their President."
Now you see why I called him an idiot.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 23, 2017 20:31:34 GMT
me me me me me me me me me me me me me ...
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 23, 2017 20:32:33 GMT
me me me me me me me me me me me me me ... Exactly that! Cuz it's all about him, all the time.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 23, 2017 20:33:10 GMT
me me me me me me me me me me me me me ... You took up opera so you need to practice?
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 23, 2017 20:38:35 GMT
Presented without comment. I've really enjoyed "getting to know" Maggie overthe past few months. She's incredibly well-spoken and seems to be very fair-minded. How she was able to keep from bursting into peals if laughter at that is beyond my comprehension.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 23, 2017 20:40:14 GMT
busy I checked to see if it was Jack Monroe, the British cook and it was but I noticed she has tweeted it is parody. Well dangit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 20:42:19 GMT
From Politico... "Sen. John Thune: Senate won’t give up on Obamacare repeal if bill fails this week politi.co/2tSt7IA From the article.. "As Republicans' efforts to undo the 2010 health care law hit seemingly insurmountable roadblocks, members of the party have floated working with Democrats to stabilize insurance markets or moving on to other priorities. But Thune, a Republican senator from South Dakota, insisted Sunday that the GOP is committed to dismantling the law that was the signature achievement of former President Barack Obama." So what if it kicks millions off their health care insurance. I mean we ALL know the rich and corporations need even more money. Seriously what does that say about the character of these men and women who support this shit? I'm just so disgusted with the whole thing. link
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Post by imsirius on Jul 23, 2017 20:47:34 GMT
me me me me me me me me me me me me me ... Yep...and everyone was warned.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 23, 2017 20:53:12 GMT
From Politico... "Sen. John Thune: Senate won’t give up on Obamacare repeal if bill fails this week politi.co/2tSt7IA From the article.. "As Republicans' efforts to undo the 2010 health care law hit seemingly insurmountable roadblocks, members of the party have floated working with Democrats to stabilize insurance markets or moving on to other priorities. But Thune, a Republican senator from South Dakota, insisted Sunday that the GOP is committed to dismantling the law that was the signature achievement of former President Barack Obama." So what if it kicks millions off their health care insurance. I mean we ALL know the rich and corporations need even more money. Seriously what does that say about the character of these men and women who support this shit? I'm just so disgusted with the whole thing. You know, I kind of understand the ones for whom it is a deep philosophical difference of belief. Like Rand Paul who is libertarian at heart. They understand that people will lose their health care and may even feel bad about it, but their core beliefs preclude having the government get involved. I disagree, but at least I understand where they're coming from. What I do not understand and hold complete disdain for is the attitude most of the mainstream Republicans (including Trump and Pence) have, that they are offering the American people "relief" from the "disaster" that is Obamacare. They do everything in their power to make Obamacare NOT work, deliberately manipulate numbers, magnify anecdotal evidence as though it's everyone's truth, in general lie, cheat, and steal, for the end purpose of taking away people's health care while claiming (lying) they're making it better. All so they can (1) give big tax breaks to rich people, and (2) undo everything Obama did, just because they get their jollies that way. I will never vote for another Republican as long as I live. Not for dog catcher, not for nuthin'. And I was a registered Republican for the first 25 years of my voting life. Bunch o' goddamn crooks. ETA to prevent any possible butthurt: I am referring to Republican politicians. If you are merely a Republican voter, I am not referring to you.
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Post by busy on Jul 23, 2017 21:23:20 GMT
busy I checked to see if it was Jack Monroe, the British cook and it was but I noticed she has tweeted it is parody. UGH. I deleted. Sorry.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 23, 2017 21:43:07 GMT
From the idiot in the White House.. "It's very sad that Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very little to protect their President." Now you see why I called him an idiot. To even utter those words shows that he doesn't give a fuck about anyone other than himself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 18:05:46 GMT
Paul Waldman for the Washington Post did this column " Senate Republicans take cynicism to a new horrifying level."
We are hurtling toward a health-care disaster in the next 36 hours or so, for the worst possible reason. Cynicism is seldom completely absent from the operation of politics, but this is truly a unique situation. Republicans are set to remake one-sixth of the American economy, threaten the economic and health security of every one of us and deprive tens of millions of people of health-care coverage, all with a bill they haven’t seen, couldn’t explain and don’t even bother to defend on its merits.
Why? Because they made a promise to their base and now they say they have to keep it — regardless of what form keeping the promise might take and how much misery it might cause.
Tomorrow, the Senate is set to vote on a Republican bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act. What Republican bill? The senators themselves don’t even know. Here’s how Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) described it yesterday on “Face the Nation“:
It appears that we will have a vote on Tuesday. But we don’t whether we’re going to be voting on the House bill, the first version of the Senate bill, the second version of the Senate bill, a new version of the Senate bill, or a 2015 bill that would have repealed the Affordable Care Act now, and then said that somehow we will figure out a replacement over the next two years.
I’ve often argued that Republicans in Congress aren’t serious about policy, but this is taking their unseriousness to the level of farce. After complaining for years that the ACA was “rammed through” Congress — in a process that involved a full year of debate, dozens of hearings in both houses and 188 Republican amendments to the bill debated and accepted — they’re going to vote on a sweeping bill that had zero hearings and that they saw only hours before, because who cares what’s in it? It’s only the fate of the country at stake. If taking away health-care coverage from 20 million or 30 million Americans is what it takes to stave off a primary challenge from some nutball tea partier, then that’s what they’ll do.
No one would argue that keeping promises isn’t important. But Republicans have elevated the idea of keeping their promise to repeal the ACA to the point where it’s drained of all substance. You can see it in the way they talk about the various iterations of their bill. You seldom hear a Republican defend it on the terms of the bill itself. They don’t say, “Here’s how this bill will bring down deductibles” or “Here’s how the bill will take care of those who lose their insurance” or “Here’s how the bill will lower costs.” That’s partly because their bills won’t do any of those things, but mostly because they just don’t care.
Instead, what they say is, “We made a promise, and we’re going to keep it.” If Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) handed them a bill saying that all children on Medicaid would be taken to the desert, buried up to their necks in the sand, and covered in fire ants, at least 40 of them would say, “It may not be perfect, but we have to keep the promise we made to repeal Obamacare, so I’m voting yes.”
For those few Republican senators with a hint of conscience — or whose states are particularly reliant on the ACA, and on Medicaid in particular — McConnell is trying to hand them a fig leaf they can use to justify their votes. But the goodies he’s offering are laughable. Consider, for instance, that McConnell is telling senators that he’ll put in $200 billion to help states that didn’t expand Medicaid. Sounds generous, until you realize that’s on top of over $750 billion in Medicaid cuts. It’s like saying, “I’m stealing your car, but here, you can keep the spare tire.”
The same is true of the $45 billion over a decade they’re tossing in to address the opioid crisis. Many of the states hardest hit by that crisis are ones such as Ohio and West Virginia that are most dependent on Medicaid. So for them, the Republican bill would take $15 or $20 away from the program most central to treating the addicts in their state, but toss a dollar back to make up for it. People who work with state budgets and addiction treatment have been telling anyone who’ll listen that given the magnitude of this crisis, $4.5 billion a year is a joke. But it might be enough to allow a couple of Republicans in the Senate to claim they aren’t making the problem dramatically worse, which is exactly what they’d be doing.
What you’d expect of leaders is to say, “Okay, there are a bunch of interlocking, complex problems we want to solve here. This has to be done carefully. Let’s take our time and make sure we get it right.” But that’s not what Republicans are saying. Instead, they’re saying “We have to vote on a bill now, even if we don’t know what it’s in it and even if it makes the problems we claim to care about impossibly worse, so we can say that we repealed Obamacare.” Sure, it would be bad to kick 20 million or 30 million people off their coverage — but not as bad as having to admit they failed to pass a bill!
This is even less serious and more cynical than what they’ve been doing for the past seven years. When they held dozens of votes in the House to repeal the ACA, it may have been silly, but at least it didn’t hurt anyone. Now they have the power to affect people’s lives by the millions — even destroy them — and they can’t be bothered to spend more than a day or two figuring out how to do it. "
Waldman is correct that repealing the ACA is more about keeping a promise then actually fixing the problems. But I willl add it's also their ideology that prevents them from making their bill better than the ACA. And if people get hurt by their bill it's "Oh well, it's their choice."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 18:32:18 GMT
From CBS News...
“Donald Trump...ran a smarter campaign and that is why he won. Suggesting otherwise ridicules those who voted for him,” Kushner says"
I'm not if the campaign was smarter but every word of what trump was going to do for those who voted for him was a lie. In other words he conned his voters.
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