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Post by hop2 on Jul 21, 2017 14:46:34 GMT
Can you clarify what you mean by an "influx of people"? If pit bull owners came to defend pitbulls, are you talking about her bringing black women to defend themselves? Because as a black woman who has started more than once I'm feeling more and more unwelcome on this board, I'm seriously hoping you mean this differently than I am taking it  I'm not sure how she means that, I don't think she meant it derogatorily. Yet, I'll admit I can be obtuse sometimes when people are being covertly nasty. It tends to go over my head. I mean I actually thought Olan had actually liked some of my posts but I guess I was being obtuse and I'm in her racist spread sheet or whatever is going on that I missed with my rose colored glasses. I sure hope you don't feel unwelcome, I enjoy reading your posts. |
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Post by cali on Jul 21, 2017 14:53:50 GMT
Can you clarify what you mean by an "influx of people"? If pit bull owners came to defend pitbulls, are you talking about her bringing black women to defend themselves? Because as a black woman who has started more than once I'm feeling more and more unwelcome on this board, I'm seriously hoping you mean this differently than I am taking it I think you are taking it exactly as she means it. This board is public. You don't even have to be logged in to read. In general, posts on the internet are public. Board members can show posts to whomever they choose. |
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Post by admin on Jul 21, 2017 14:54:29 GMT
Realistically, yes, this is a public message board. Anyone anywhere could be 'tracking' our posts and/or sharing them elsewhere for any number of purposes, and we'll never know. That's just the nature of the internet. You say both are at fault but you are only telling Zookeeper what she has to do to essentially not be aware that it's happening. No, I told both zookeeper and Olan how to avoid the interactions with each other that they don't want. Olan is in the wrong here. She's taking what we say and sharing it outside of this group for the sole purpose of causing trouble. Maybe I've missed something, but unless Olan actually said this it seems like huge leap. There's no doubt that if that continues, at some point we will have an influx of people coming in to cause problems just like when the pit bull owners or the WW members did. that (and in this instance I took 'people' to mean 'trolls') happens, we'll deal with it. |
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Post by burningfeather on Jul 21, 2017 15:04:08 GMT
Can you clarify what you mean by an "influx of people"? If pit bull owners came to defend pitbulls, are you talking about her bringing black women to defend themselves? Because as a black woman who has started more than once I'm feeling more and more unwelcome on this board, I'm seriously hoping you mean this differently than I am taking it Seriously Dani? I have no idea who she is sharing information with. It could be black women. It could not be. That's on her, not us. Yes, an influx of pit bull owners came to harass us after a call to action by a member. I have no idea what their race, religion or political beliefs were other than the fact that they came to cause a problem. The same thing happened with Weight Watcher members after someone brought them over in a mass. There is no way that I meant "influx of people" to mean any specific group other than who Olan is choosing to share with. Like I said, that's on her. |
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Post by happymomma on Jul 21, 2017 15:04:10 GMT
I'm pretty sure if I told my friends, "Come here. Look at how prejudiced these people are against (fill in the blank of whatever your group is; black, fat, motorcycle riders, etc.)! I can argue with them to no end, but I have little hope they will ever change. It really bothers me how badly they think of ______." they would look at me and say, "Um...why do you keep going there then?" I'm pretty sure they wouldn't sit around and discuss how terrible those people are for not liking whatever it is. That's just weird. They'd likely say, "Hey, let's go hang out with other like-minded people or people who we think we have a chance of convincing that _____ people are great.
Hopefully, friends try to steer each other toward happiness and not encourage misery.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 21, 2017 15:18:18 GMT
I think I need a break. And no, this is not a hair flip and I'm not going to delete my name. But I definitely don't want to continue to come to a place that makes me feel uncomfortable to be black, something I did not choose to be. And I've said for MONTHS there are people and posts here that are causing that feeling over and over. Nothing has changed and I deserve to go somewhere I don't constantly feel uncomfortable. I've been here since 2001 and I feel this board is the most political than it has ever been. I just don't like it and I know myself well enough to know I need to remove myself from it all for a while. I need new perspective.
So enjoy guys! I've taken a break before a longgggg time ago and it was beneficial so I hope this one will be too.
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Post by imsirius on Jul 21, 2017 15:21:47 GMT
I think I need a break. And no, this is not a hair flip and I'm not going to delete my name. But I definitely don't want to continue to come to a place that makes me feel uncomfortable to be black, something I did not choose to be. And I've said for MONTHS there are people and posts here that are causing that feeling over and over. Nothing has changed and I deserve to go somewhere I don't constantly feel uncomfortable. I've been here since 2001 and I feel this board is the most political than it has ever been. I just don't like it and I know myself well enough to know I need to remove myself from it all for a while. I need new perspective. So enjoy guys! I've taken a break before a longgggg time ago and it was beneficial so I hope this one will be too. This makes me sad. I hope you come back. I always enjoy your perspective on things. |
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Post by jennyap on Jul 21, 2017 15:24:22 GMT
I think I need a break. And no, this is not a hair flip and I'm not going to delete my name. But I definitely don't want to continue to come to a place that makes me feel uncomfortable to be black, something I did not choose to be. And I've said for MONTHS there are people and posts here that are causing that feeling over and over. Nothing has changed and I deserve to go somewhere I don't constantly feel uncomfortable. I've been here since 2001 and I feel this board is the most political than it has ever been. I just don't like it and I know myself well enough to know I need to remove myself from it all for a while. I need new perspective. So enjoy guys! I've taken a break before a longgggg time ago and it was beneficial so I hope this one will be too. I'm sorry, I hate that you have to do that but I understand. I'll miss hearing your perspective. I hope the break is good for you. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 21, 2017 15:30:35 GMT
Yes. On the safari version of proboards, at least. I don't know about Tapatalk. Interesting. Well I truly do not have that. So at least I can stop feeling dumb for never noticing it.  Save - I am using Chrome on my desktop and do not have the Activity tab on my own account. However, if I go to the Members page and click on names there, most of them have an activity tab but not all. I did a sort by Group/Rank (in order to get really active members) and clicked on random names. You do not have an Activity tab and neither does Admin, as well as a couple of others. I'm beginning to think it may have something to do with our privacy settings? Off to check that out. |
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 21, 2017 15:35:24 GMT
Some key words to take from Olan's response here. TO DIRECT NON PEAS TO SPECIFIC THREADS Olan is showing our site to non peas who then target us off site. Sorry, but so what? Any one of us is welcome to share anything posted here with anyone she chooses - it's a PUBLIC message board. I have a hard time sometimes understanding exactly where Olan is trying to go with her questions and commentary, but I appreciate that she challenges us to think. I know I'm not a conscious racist in the slightest, but there is such a thing as unconscious bias. I try to listen to what she and others have to say and examine myself accordingly. If the shoe doesn't fit, I don't wear it. I understand being annoyed by the "like" issue, but really, it's nothing. And honestly, I don't like how the majority of these posts have become a bit of a pile on. For the record, I don't believe this pile on has its roots in racism but rather in people being annoyed. However, it's still taking on a mean girl feel. If you need to ignore, ignore. I'm tired of us making people with different views feel unwelcome. I really don't want Peas to become an echo chamber, but for it to continue to be a place for us to chat about all kinds of things, trivial and serious. I want to get ideas from people, whether it is about paint color or politics. I see it kind of like an online coffee house, and I want everyone to still feel welcome. OK, I'm getting off my soapbox now. |
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 21, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
admin I have used the tool that is supposed to be able to keep her from liking any of my posts....and it is not working. So yes....I am trying to use the tools that are given to me. I don't want her to have the ability to like or respond to anything that I post. Ever. She is a loose cannon. I don't participate in political threads. I very rarely participate in any thread that is volatile. You would be hard pressed to find anything by me in the past where I was out of line. I changed my f word in the title. I did it way shortly after I posted the OP. I was trying to be gracious, but I also did not want to erase the thread because it is important that other peas know that Olan is doing this.
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Post by gar on Jul 21, 2017 15:42:23 GMT
dani-mani, I hope you return before too long.
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Post by burningfeather on Jul 21, 2017 15:44:30 GMT
Dani - I'm sorry you feel the need to take a break. If you have a suggestion of some other way that I can say "people" that doesn't make it feel like I'm making a racist statement, I am open to hearing it as a teachable moment. I'm also not sure why you are questioning who I am referring to and not questioning who Olan is referring to, but again, I'll take that as a teachable moment if you can give me some insight.
Like I said, I have no idea of the race, religion, etc. of any groups who previously came to Two Peas to harass nor did it ever matter. The whole point was that someone - a member - issued some sort of a rally cry and they came here to create some level of chaos. There never was a friendly "hey, we are here to educate and enlighten you on the topic of _____." Some here may be new enough that they don't remember that at Two Peas, but I know others will. It's happened at least twice (in my somewhat good memory for these types of things) so it's not really off base or jumping to conclusions that it could happen again especially when someone has specifically said she is marking specific posts to share with other people.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jul 21, 2017 16:02:02 GMT
Dani-Mani, I'll really miss you, and I am sorry you don't feel welcome right now. You've grown up here, you are part of our community. <3 Come back soon, but I understand how you feel, I've btdt myself. I think we all need an occasional break, even if you aren't a sissy. Also, I think a lot of you are being super dismissive of the women who feel targeted by Olan. "so what? ignore it?". Yeah, easier said than done sometimes. Depends on the person. She tried harassing me for a bit and I totally ignored a non-issue she was trying to pick over with me. It was easy for me to ignore it, but it was only one incident. I can't imagine though, if it happens to you over and over. I'd be plenty fed up, and I understand and support those peas she's using for some sort of social experiment she appears to be using our board for. |
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Post by jenjie on Jul 21, 2017 16:57:36 GMT
Dani-Mani I'm staying off the political threads so I haven't seen what's going on. But I like you and I'm sorry you feel unwelcome in what has been your internet home for a long time. I do understand the need for a break and hope you come back to us soon. FTR and I know this wasn't THE ONE issue for you, more like the straw that broke the camel's back - but I don't believe burningfeather meant it the way you heard it. But I can understand why you would take it that way. does it seem out of character for her to say it the way you think she said it? If so, maybe a little benefit of the doubt might be in order. She has tried to explain and wants to understand your POV.
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 21, 2017 17:03:21 GMT
does it seem out of character for her to say it the way you think she said it? If so, maybe a little benefit of the doubt might be in order. She has tried to explain and wants to understand your POV. everyone interprets things thru their own experiences i'm so sorry dani feels the need for a break i am also sorry that BF was misunderstood -- it seems that all these threads - that accuse people of being racist/closet racist/uncaring/not doing enough - are really hurting our community and the one pea that all this centers around is MIA -as usual and it's going to lead to more hurt feelings and bickering among the rest of us yvonne had a good point - some of you are very dismissive of olan's behavior and instead blaming the ones she's irritating - or saying 'just get over it' don't worry - if she perceives you to be an ally it's not your posts she'll dig thru and 'like' - (i stand by all my posts so it really doesn't matter but it's still off-putting) gina |
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Post by oh yvonne on Jul 21, 2017 17:12:41 GMT
I got what Burning Feather was trying to say and I also agree it can be taken worse than how she intended.
So difficult lately to say just the 'right' thing. Your words are picked about and analyzed and you get accused of saying things you never meant. No wonder so many are hesitant to say anything. I too, limit my participation on many threads for this very same reason. And I used to never shy away from jumping into the fray.
I think it probably would have gone over better if BF had recalled the breast feeding wars/call to arms when the the bf boards were rallied and called in to jump into the mosh pit against those of us who don't like a boob hauled out and displayed uncovered in public. Same example, but maybe a little less..'sting' to it. Board Wars. I think we've had enough of our share here in the past and our numbers are *much* smaller this time so yeah, I get why people feel skittish, especially when they've said nothing 'wrong'.
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Post by burningfeather on Jul 21, 2017 17:20:40 GMT
I got what Burning Feather was trying to say and I also agree it can be taken worse than how she intended. So difficult lately to say just the 'right' thing. Your words are picked about and analyzed and you get accused of saying things you never meant. No wonder so many are hesitant to say anything. I too, limit my participation on many threads for this very same reason. And I used to never shy away from jumping into the fray. I think it probably would have gone over better if BF had recalled the breast feeding wars/call to arms when the the bf boards were rallied and called in to jump into the mosh pit against those of us who don't like a boob hauled out and displayed uncovered in public. Same example, but maybe a little less..'sting' to it. Board Wars. I think we've had enough of our share here in the past and our numbers are *much* smaller this time so yeah, I get why people feel skittish, especially when they've said nothing 'wrong'.I don't I don't recall the breast feeding board war, so I guess my good memory is merely good and not excellent. Or maybe I was on vacation or something. But I'm curious (for real) - why does breast feeding have less sting than the pit bull owners or the WW members? I'm not understanding that part. Either I'm super oblivious or super naive or something, but are you saying that one has a more racial connotation to it? Because that was never my thought or intention. At all. I don't think that I have a history of anything like that here and I don't know why someone would assume that about me. |
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Post by jenjie on Jul 21, 2017 17:28:01 GMT
"everyone interprets things thru their own experiences" ginacivey I was thinking this concept but couldn't figure out the words. |
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Post by oh yvonne on Jul 21, 2017 17:33:54 GMT
I got what Burning Feather was trying to say and I also agree it can be taken worse than how she intended. So difficult lately to say just the 'right' thing. Your words are picked about and analyzed and you get accused of saying things you never meant. No wonder so many are hesitant to say anything. I too, limit my participation on many threads for this very same reason. And I used to never shy away from jumping into the fray. I think it probably would have gone over better if BF had recalled the breast feeding wars/call to arms when the the bf boards were rallied and called in to jump into the mosh pit against those of us who don't like a boob hauled out and displayed uncovered in public. Same example, but maybe a little less..'sting' to it. Board Wars. I think we've had enough of our share here in the past and our numbers are *much* smaller this time so yeah, I get why people feel skittish, especially when they've said nothing 'wrong'.I don't I don't recall the breast feeding board war, so I guess my good memory is merely good and not excellent. Or maybe I was on vacation or something. But I'm curious (for real) - why does breast feeding have less sting than the pit bull owners or the WW members? I'm not understanding that part. Either I'm super oblivious or super naive or something, but are you saying that one has a more racial connotation to it? Because that was never my thought or intention. At all. I don't think that I have a history of anything like that here and I don't know why someone would assume that about me. IDK, I'm thinking not racial, but comparing women to rabid dog fanatics, made it a little sting. I know you didn't mean it that way. And now I'm out because apparently I'm still saying the wrong thing. |
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Post by burningfeather on Jul 21, 2017 17:41:42 GMT
I don't recall the breast feeding board war, so I guess my good memory is merely good and not excellent. Or maybe I was on vacation or something. But I'm curious (for real) - why does breast feeding have less sting than the pit bull owners or the WW members? I'm not understanding that part. Either I'm super oblivious or super naive or something, but are you saying that one has a more racial connotation to it? Because that was never my thought or intention. At all. I don't think that I have a history of anything like that here and I don't know why someone would assume that about me. IDK, I'm thinking not racial, but comparing women to rabid dog fanatics, made it a little sting. I know you didn't mean it that way. And now I'm out because apparently I'm still saying the wrong thing. I guess I kind of get it and could agree if I just pulled pit bull owners out of a hat of random examples. It was just that it was one of the two identifiable groups (and I used both) that I recalled coming here. I wasn't comparing anyone to them other than a group coming into our group at the same time. I didn't identify them that way - they self-identified themselves as pit bull owners. Not to be confused with "the" Pitbull, who I have a bit of a mini crush on and who I wish would get together with my girl crush Jennifer Lopez because I think JLo deserves a good man and Pitbull seems pretty nice and he's hella sexy. LOL. JLo makes some shitty man decisions on her own and she needs some help in that area. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2017 17:42:39 GMT
And she admitted to and denied in the same paragraph that she was tracking peas! She's not tracking them, just liking them so she can more easily pull them out to show NON-peas the threads (same as tracking/compiling...) Take responsibility for your own hatefulness Olan, you're quick to blame anyone else. I'm confused...I didn't vote for 45, so I think I'm clear on the ruining the world thing, amiright? Some key words to take from Olan's response here. TO DIRECT NON PEAS TO SPECIFIC THREADS Olan is showing our site to non peas who then target us off site. Ahhhh..this is not right. She is tracking Ps posts, so she can DIRECT them to NON pes?? WTF??? This is the big reason so many of us don't post on here anymore. Or have formed off-shoot groups with people we trust. If she's trying to kill this forum, she's doing a good job. Is there anyway we can start to close the forum down to the public? I don't feel comfortable with someone saying that to us. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2017 17:47:11 GMT
Don't over share on the internet and you won't have a problem. Overshare? I don't think it has anything to do with oversharing... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 17:53:20 GMT
And she admitted to and denied in the same paragraph that she was tracking peas! She's not tracking them, just liking them so she can more easily pull them out to show NON-peas the threads (same as tracking/compiling...) Take responsibility for your own hatefulness Olan, you're quick to blame anyone else. I'm confused...I didn't vote for 45, so I think I'm clear on the ruining the world thing, amiright? Some key words to take from Olan's response here. TO DIRECT NON PEAS TO SPECIFIC THREADS Olan is showing our site to non peas who then target us off site. Ahhhh..this is not right. She is tracking Ps posts, so she can DIRECT them to NON pes?? WTF??? This is the big reason so many of us don't post on here anymore. Or have formed off-shoot groups with people we trust. If she's trying to kill this forum, she's doing a good job. Is there anyway we can start to close the forum down to the public? I don't feel comfortable with someone saying that to us. Anyone can join this forum, close it down to the public ffs! Save |
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Post by christine58 on Jul 21, 2017 17:54:51 GMT
- Who gives a fuck what strangers think. I agree. |
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Post by christine58 on Jul 21, 2017 18:11:30 GMT
As I read through the last couple pages, IMO, some of you--not all--are giving Olan way too much power. She is a name behind a screen. Who cares what she thinks of any one of us?? I don't. I really don't. So..ignore her and her posts. Keep trying the block features. She can tell her friends whatever she wants, she can bring them here, I don't give a you know what. She means nothing to me.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 21, 2017 18:16:46 GMT
I'm a tier 7 but here's my take... Ah... the pea tiers. Good times!  She said that about this heavily anti-Trump board.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 18:22:17 GMT
Olan said: You all hate me and I think a large number of you voted for 45 and basically ruined the world. If we all hate her, why does she come here? And IDGAF what anyone thinks of me. |
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Post by River on Jul 21, 2017 18:25:25 GMT
She said that about this heavily anti-Trump board.  Exactly what I was thinking. If a large number of us voted for Trump, then where are they? They sure as heck are not posting on the political threads. |
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 21, 2017 19:07:22 GMT
Or have formed off-shoot groups with people we trust. and the condition of the board is why so many left and rarely come back to comment Don't over share on the internet and you won't have a problem. Overshare? I don't think it has anything to do with oversharing... it's not oversharing - it's sharing at all it sounds like you are laying blame where it doesn't belong and don't doubt for a minute olan isn't reading every single post gina |
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Exactly what I was thinking. If a large number of us voted for Trump, then where are they? They sure as heck are not posting on the political threads.