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Post by librarylady on Nov 12, 2017 22:03:32 GMT
I am sure my opinion will be offensive to some, and for that I say, "I am sorry that I offend you, but it is my opinion."
I don't understand a roadside memorial to "My loved one died on this spot." As a driver, I find them distracting and wish the memorial was not there. I have always thought a cemetery is the place for that memorial, and the place to remember the deceased.
I know the spot where my BIL had his accident, and often think of it when I am in his town--but it never entered my mind (or my family's mind) to erect a memorial there. We, the US society, don't create such memorials on the lawn of a hospital or a home when someone dies--so why on the highway? It seems such a painful memory that I don't understand wanting to have a permanent reminder.
The state of Texas (where I live) will leave one for one year and then the highway dept removes the memorial.
Also on the topic--why are teddy bears left when a particularly sad death has happened --such as the shooting last Sunday?
In our general area, a little girl was said to be missing, but in reality her father caused her death, and the neighbors created a memorial at the spot where she was supposedly last seen. There was a pile of flowers (I can understand flowers) and lots of stuffed animals.----Now, someone will have to clear out the flowers, after a few days, and do something with the stuffed animals. What does one do with them? I can't imagine the mother wanting a bear that was left when her child died. (at least I would not want it in the circumstances).
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 12, 2017 22:12:02 GMT
I don't understand it either. But then, I don't understand people visiting grave sites either.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 12, 2017 22:16:49 GMT
Most of the time they are cleared up quickly in my town. I really don't like seeing them either. On my previous drive home from work, there was one where a 16 year old boy spun out and was killed. He was driving unsafely. He was in my son's class. His classmates have kept that memorial full of stuffed animals, flowers etc. That was six years ago. My son was hit about 6 months later on the interstate and survived. That memorial reminds me of my son's accident and how fortunate we were.
I think most people don't know what to do, but they want to do something, so these memorials pop up from time to time.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Nov 12, 2017 22:17:06 GMT
I don’t either. I want to remember where people lived and were happy. Not where they were tragically killed. There’s one on a main Street about 5 blocks from my house. It’s along a shopping area with a Sears, Target, Lowe’s and some restaurants. It was a young guy on a motorcycle and it happened on Christmas Eve in 2003. There are still always lots of fake flowers and a small wooden white cross on the grass. It makes me sad for the person always changing them out and feeling tied to that place. I’m guessing his Mom.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 22:24:35 GMT
Since I've never felt the need to make one I'm not exactly sure why someone else would make a memorial. But, cemeteries are typically out of the way places where the living doesn't go. Putting the memorial where they died keeps the person in the sights of the living. It says this person was just like you going about their business when their life was ended suddenly.
A teddy is a nice soft huggable comfort object in our society so I presume it is an offer of a hug.
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Post by happymomma on Nov 12, 2017 22:27:29 GMT
I know a person whose 17 year old was killed in a car accident. His teenage friends put a roadside memorial up at the spot he was killed. One day when we were at lunch, a group of us girls, someone asked her if it bothered her. She said it didn't bother her in the least because for one thing, that was a way for those friends to 'deal' with losing their friend, and it gave them a way to honor him and 'visit' him outside of a cemetery where it was just too formal for them to process. She said she also did visit the memorial, to feel close to where her child had taken his last breath while she wasn't able to be with him. She felt she could 'be with him' and somehow that soothed her. I didn't understand the roadside memorials either, as I have never lost a child or loved one in a tragic accident. Hearing from someone that did, I understood.
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Post by Skellinton on Nov 12, 2017 22:33:59 GMT
I completely agree, but if it brings someone who loved the person some comfort, I respect that and just think a quick thought for them when I pass one.
My aunt taught were a student had died of cancer, the school had a bench put in front of the school as a memorial. Her mom and grandmother came and sat there once a week. I imagine I would be traumatized by seeing the other healthy children, but for this family being at the school and seeing her classmates grow up brought them peace.
Grieving is such a personal thing.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 12, 2017 22:41:16 GMT
I don't understand it either. But then, I don't understand people visiting grave sites either. I go to see my mother all the time at the cemetery. I often wash her headstone. It's a Japanese tradition and, well, I know that it is something I can do for her so I do it. I may be gaijin but I lived in Japan long enough that I have the custom engraved in my mind. Shoganai.
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Post by gar on Nov 12, 2017 23:06:26 GMT
It’s done in the UK a lot too. Perhaps when a death is so brutal, unexpected and untimely there’s a need to mark the spot as part of the processing of it all. I don’t know.
I don’t find it any more distracting than anything else I see along the roadside.
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Post by Karene on Nov 12, 2017 23:18:18 GMT
We have quite a few up in our area. We are in a small farming town that now has a lot of commuters to the city. But we are surrounded by country roads so a lot of people tend to go off the road especially in snowstorms or from drinking.
One problem is that the memorials are put up on other people's property. They don't necessarily mind for a short time, but they don't really want them on their property for years. Often they become quite dilapidated or just tacky looking.
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Post by artbabe on Nov 12, 2017 23:24:33 GMT
Grief is such a personal thing. I have never visited my mother’s gravestone. It has nothing to do with who she was and I want no part of it.
That being said, maybe because I’m an art teacher, but I have a fascination with the art we used to memorialize the dead. I used to go to cemeteries a lot to see the amazing art there and the stories behind it.
I like roadside memorials. They are authentic displays of love. People need rituals, they need art, they need a concrete way to deal with their emotions. It provides a release for some people and I don’t begrudge them that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 23:33:50 GMT
I think there is a pea who has a direct dealing with this. Family kept trying to set up memorial in their yard. I am not sure if it is still going on
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There is a memorial at an intersection. It is marker with a photo on it. A young vibriant girl who had everything going for her was murdered at the intersection when a drunk driver ran a light and hit her.
The murdering bastard has been trying to get the memorial removed, because it upsets him when he ( and his grandparents ) drives by it.
Her parents used to drive around town towing her wrecked car, but I haven't seen it in a long time.
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Post by basketdiva on Nov 12, 2017 23:47:26 GMT
We drove a state that would install bronze sign on the side of the highway so long as the family paid for it. It was respectful but not distracting to other drivers.
Too many of the homemade roadside memorials end up being just a roadside mess- Christmas trees left up until Easter,etc. to me this is disrespectful to the person who died there.
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Post by ginacivey on Nov 12, 2017 23:48:54 GMT
I like roadside memorials. They are authentic displays of love. People need rituals, they need art, they need a concrete way to deal with their emotions. It provides a release for some people and I don’t begrudge them that. i think that, unless we've been there, it's hard to judge there's a memorial just a few yards from my driveway in the dip i heard this young man wreck and ran thru the woods while calling 911 so he wouldn't be alone if it were his final moments the cross his family/friends have erected is tasteful and even if it wasn't - i'd never utter a word gina
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Post by leeny on Nov 12, 2017 23:49:59 GMT
Not a fan of these. Especially when it is for someone who was drunk or driving dangerously. Don't get why we have to be reminded of the choice they made.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 12, 2017 23:52:04 GMT
We pass on of those not too far from our home. There is a large column supporting the freeway overpass. On that column is written the name of a guy who passed away there. The city comes and paints over the words and someone comes back and puts it back on. It's a never ending cycle. I'm not a fan of such memorials. They are just reminders of death and tragedy.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 12, 2017 23:56:01 GMT
There is one on an overpass where a young woman jumped down onto the highway. There are always fresh flowers there and it is very sad to pass by. It is not offensive or obstructive or anything. It is just a sad reminder.
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Post by Anna*Banana on Nov 13, 2017 0:12:16 GMT
They are common around here. I know they do pose some problem for highway and roadside workers who keep the grass and bushes trimmed back. But they do a good job of trimming around them. Having said that, when I see one, I am only reminded of the grief and heartache the family and loved ones left behind must feel. I am not going to judge nor criticize. I've never heard of a roadside memorial causing an accident or creating a major problem. An inconvenience and or short moment of ugly on the side of the road is nothing compared to their loss. I can overlook that second or two of unpleasantness.
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Post by prapea on Nov 13, 2017 0:13:14 GMT
One thing that two peas has taught me over the years is that grief is very personal. We don’t know and we can never know why people who lost their loved ones do the things they do.
We were driving to vegas from page last weekend and saw a couple sitting on the side of the road in the highway (or whatever that route is called)in lawn chairs. At first, we didn’t understand why they were there as it is not a town nor a scenic point. It took us a second to realize they probably lost someone there because we saw cross and flowers as we got closer to them. It made me feel bad for them. I cannot imagine their pain.
None of the memorials bother me. It actually makes me drive more carefully.
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Post by Really Red on Nov 13, 2017 0:16:05 GMT
I think it's a reminder that it may be a dangerous curve or spot, too.
They don't bother me.
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Post by marimoose on Nov 13, 2017 0:17:46 GMT
I can't see men ever erecting one nor want to ever be in the situation where I might need to consider it but I will not judge others who do. Everyone grieves differently and if this brings them some sort of pace or closure, then it is fine by me. I admit when I drive by one it always makes me think about what might have happened and I seldom don't think about their family's loss. There is a memorial about 1 mile from my house that I pass nearly every day, at least twice. It is on a light pole of a corner and the entire pole is wrapped from top to bottom with flowers and on the front is a picture of the 14yo boy who lost his life. An 80+yo woman was drunk driving, speeding and swerved, striking 2 of 3 boys and kept going, crashing her car onto a small soccer field around the corner, where thankfully there were no children at the time. She had nearly struck a few months before, again drunk, and the people didn't push charges because of her age and the promise by her family that they would take away her ability to drive. The memorial is on the corner, less than a block from the young man's home. People have always sped through this curvy stretch and I can guarantee that I am very conscious of my speed as soon as i see that sign. My hope is that this memoiral has the same positive impact on other drivers too. It is simply a reminder that life is precious and cut short too soon sometimes and we should exercise caution. ginacivey That was so kind of you to run towards the accident so that whoever wrecked was not alone. I hope that brought his family some peace.
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Post by marimoose on Nov 13, 2017 0:18:09 GMT
I think it's a reminder that it may be a dangerous curve or spot, too. They don't bother me. Exactly!
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Post by Peal on Nov 13, 2017 0:19:06 GMT
We have one down the freeway that was put up for a police officer. It was done with funds by a private donor. It's a 20 foot tall cross, 5 or 6 flag poles and lights. It is HUGE. I don't know why this particular officer warranted such an memorial and I think the donor has remained anonymous. I don't think that's even where he died. But maybe it is and I'm confusing accidents. Every time I drive past I think do we really need such a massive freeway memorial for just one cop? And it doesn't blend into anything as most of the area is fields.
I doubt I would put up a memorial myself, but I kind of understand those that do. It's kind of like the people who put memorial stickers on the back window of their car, or get tattoos.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Nov 13, 2017 0:19:07 GMT
I don't care for them at all. A memorial bench in their favorite park, or a wing in their name I get. But memorializing the spot where they most likely had the worst moment of their life makes zero sense to me. Not to mention they look weathered and derelict in no time and therefore start looking depressing just adds to my dislike.
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Post by PLurker on Nov 13, 2017 0:28:19 GMT
I don't get it and would not be one to erect one but respect those who feel the need to and do.
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Post by smartypants71 on Nov 13, 2017 0:28:53 GMT
They don’t bother me at all. If a memorial brings someone peace, who am I to judge? Sadly, we have many ghost bikes here. I think it serves as a valuable reminder that this what can happen if you don’t share the road or be aware of cyclists.
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Post by missbennet on Nov 13, 2017 0:30:44 GMT
I think it's a reminder that it may be a dangerous curve or spot, too. They don't bother me. I drove by a spot this week with 3 memorials in a row, and I did slow down - not to rubberneck, but because it was clear that this particular curvy road means business. They don't bother me either, though I often think of how unsafe it is for people to be out on the side of the road setting them up, tending to them, etc. I wouldn't want one in my front yard or on my property, which I think was the case with a pea.
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Post by compwalla on Nov 13, 2017 0:41:28 GMT
Don't get why we have to be reminded of the choice they made. Maybe to remind people to make better choices lest your life is reduced to plastic hobby lobby flowers, a shitty teddy bear, and a cross that is always for whatever reason, covered in lace. I don't have a problem with them. I wouldn't make one or visit one but I wouldn't ever tell anyone they shouldn't make one or visit one. As a person staring death square in the face, I spent a lot of time thinking about what should be done when I'm dead and I've finally reached the conclusion that it doesn't matter and the people who will be sad I'm dead should do whatever they like because it's their grief, not mine. My grieving is underway. My grieving stops when I die; theirs begins and it's not up to me to tell them how to do it. Life is complicated, death is devastating, and I begrudge no one what they need to get through it and come out the other side with their sanity intact. More strongly than I ever have, I feel like people should worry a lot less about what choices other people are making when said choice isn't hurting you personally or hurting anyone else. I also feel really fucking annoyed that I have to spell out "unless it hurts someone" because sure as shit, some fucktard will toddle up here and say "what about child marriage? or pedophilia? or wanking in front of lady comics? What if THAT is how they grieve? Are we supposed to let people just do whatever they want?" Because having to add seven million perfectly phrased caveats is now what's required to have an opinion on the internet. /end digression Anyway. TL;DR roadside memorials are not my jam spiritually or aesthetically but if they are someone else's jam, that's fine with me.
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Post by shescrafty on Nov 13, 2017 0:53:25 GMT
I completely agree, but if it brings someone who loved the person some comfort, I respect that and just think a quick thought for them when I pass one. My aunt taught were a student had died of cancer, the school had a bench put in front of the school as a memorial. Her mom and grandmother came and sat there once a week. I imagine I would be traumatized by seeing the other healthy children, but for this family being at the school and seeing her classmates grow up brought them peace. Grieving is such a personal thing. We have a “buddy bench” at the school where Phoebe went (and where I work) that was put up in Phoebe’s memory. It is a place for kids to sit when they need a friend to play with, them other kids can see them and go get them to play. I see it on my walk into school, and from my classroom window, and while on recess duty. While it is hard to think about with the meaning, I am happy knowing that something in honor of Phoebe is at a place she lived and loved so much. Although my best friend and I joke that had there been a buddy bench when Phoebe was alive she might tell kids to go sit there if she didn’t want to play with them.
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Post by femalebusiness on Nov 13, 2017 1:06:59 GMT
I also have always thought it was weird when someone (like a soldier) is killed by a gun and at their funeral they shoot volleys to honor the dead. It always makes me uncomfortable.
Do NOT turn my remarks into a debate on gun control. That was not my point.
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