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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 2, 2018 3:37:43 GMT
Lies? Or mistakes that should have been corrected? There is a significant difference, as a lie means he knowingly said something that was false vs just having a fact that was wrong. ETA: I just watched the video again. The title is very misleading. At no time did anyone in that video say that the students were lying. They only said they felt like they should have jumped in to correct facts that were wrong. Again, big difference between the two, and there was no context for whether these were minor facts that were of little significance to the topic being discussed or whether they were very important. I am coming down on the side of somewhat insignificant given the one the reporter said was important enough to correct wasn’t something that most people would get too upset about.It was important enough to Stelter for him to say he was doing it. From Ben Shapiro: Just like Fox News does and the crap that Sinclair Broadcasting is doing spreading their propaganda. The title IS very misleading as were the titles of a half dozen other right wing outlets regurgitating the same “report”. Shelter answered a question. And once again, no where is there any mention of what these other “supposed” lies were either—so it’s fantastic that Gia seems to have knowledge that no one else has—to know if they were important and/or influenced anyone. 🙄 |
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Post by PLurker on Apr 2, 2018 3:39:08 GMT
in the posted video I hear no where/no one saying Hogg lied. should have stepped in to "correct the fact" is not necessarily the same thing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 2, 2018 3:41:04 GMT
I’m not misrepresenting anything, unlike what you did. I stated facts—the reporter himself, in the link you posted clearly stated that he corrected DH when he stated that. There was NOTHING ELSE in the link that made mention of any other “supposed” lies, either as to the nature of the hat they may have been or if/when they happened. Just because you always want to control the narrative to YOUR OPINION and propaganda it does not make it true. You are the one over reaching and over reacting on this one. But but but but CNN bad, liberals bad... This blatant lie from you puts a final nail in any possibility that you are capable of having an honest discussion with someone you disagree with. It borders on trolling, if not outright trolling. Blatant lie? You are delusional and once again gaslighting. You are incapable of having any discussion where someone doesn’t agree with your tired message and propaganda. I stated what was in the article YOU linked, and pointed out that there was nothing else there to indicate any other “supposed” lies, as to the nature of what they were. You keep gaslighting Gia, I know I’m not alone in knowing/seeing what you’re doing. You’re always predictable. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 4:02:33 GMT
The title on the video was “CNN admits they let student lie about NRA”. Ok I listened to the blonde who declared gun policy is boring and maybe it shouldn’t the coverage that it is. I’m sure the families of innocent people killed may disagree with this woman whoever she is. What a dumb thing to say. But on to Brian Stelter who other then saying he corrected Hogg in who the CEO of the NRA was he was very vague about specifically what the kid was lying about. Just exactly what were the lies? Do you know? Is that blonde a host of another CNN show? I didn’t see a network in the corner of the video. I’m also confused by the title. Did CNN, the network, release a statement the kid lied or was it just this Brian Stelter talking to the blonde lady who said it? Unless the network released a statement then the title was incorrect. It should be “CNN Host admits he let the student lie about the NRA in interview.” But I still don’t know what the lies he told were.By the way it’s not a biggie that Hogg got the CEO of the NRA wrong. For a long time I thought it was that Wayne guy, you know the one with the big mouth. I’m not surprised Hogg may have thought the CEO was that Dana woman with her big mouth instead of some guy by the name of Cox. Big mouths do tend to draw attention. But the good news for women is Hogg, apparently, didn’t see anything unusual about a woman being the CEO of the NRA. The title was from the person that made the video and while your objection to it has been noted, it doesn't change the fact that they're saying they let David Hogg get away with lies and inaccuracies. What were the lies? If one is going to call someone out for lying on TV they should at least tell one what the lies are. If they don’t tell what the lies and inaccuracies are then an argument could be made that for some reason they are being less than honest. I mean isn’t that you have been doing lately, suggesting news coming from CNN has been less than honest? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 12:48:04 GMT
So, are you now spending your time looking for a transcript so you won't be annoyed? Then you can see it's the actual truth and not "just because I don't like what the kid is saying". The title on the video was “CNN admits they let student lie about NRA”. . But on to Brian Stelter who other then saying he corrected Hogg on who the CEO of the NRA was he was very vague about specifically what the kid was lying about. Just exactly what were the lies? Do you know? Is that blonde a host of another CNN show? I didn’t see a network in the corner of the video. I’m also confused by the title. Did CNN, the network, release a statement the kid lied or was it just this Brian Stelter talking to the blonde lady who said it? Unless the network released a statement then the title was incorrect. It should be “CNN Host admits he let the student lie about the NRA in interview.” But I still don’t know what the lies he told were. With the exception of making a mistake about the position of the national spokesperson of the NRA I can't find what he actually lied about either...perhaps Gia would like to enlighten us all. I can't seem to embed the video but here's the link to the video interview David Hog interview with Brian StelterMedia Matters also printed the list of advertisers and David Hogg retweeted it. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 2, 2018 17:07:49 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends  Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 17:53:33 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! I think we checked out because it became another spot to be attacked by the left. They can't stand the conservatives having a voice in anything here I'm afraid! But HELLO to you, and I hope you had a great weekend too! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 2, 2018 19:15:34 GMT
You have done your share of snark and attacking of liberal peas, so please—spare the sanctimonious rhetoric.
And more importantly, disputing lies, untruths, and iffy statements is NOT attacking no matter how much you like playing the victim.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 2, 2018 19:38:51 GMT
And more importantly, disputing lies, untruths, and iffy statements is NOT attacking no matter how much you like playing the victim. I just watched the video over and over again. Other than the error with Dana Loesch's I found no lies... But it needs to be remembered that that video was done just TEN days after the shooting! |
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Post by LiLi on Apr 2, 2018 20:12:29 GMT
I think we checked out because it became another spot to be attacked by the left. They can't stand the conservatives having a voice in anything here I'm afraid! But HELLO to you, and I hope you had a great weekend too! Not, "the left." Not, "they." Just a select few. Perhaps, the same select few as usual. There are a few on the right who do the same thing. Please don't lump us all in the same pile, and I won't do that to "you" either. It's part of the overall problem. kthnxbai |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:16:29 GMT
I think we checked out because it became another spot to be attacked by the left. They can't stand the conservatives having a voice in anything here I'm afraid! But HELLO to you, and I hope you had a great weekend too! Not, "the left." Not, "they." Just a select few. Perhaps, the same select few as usual. There are a few on the right who do the same thing. Please don't lump us all in the same pile, and I won't do that to "you" either. It's part of the overall problem. kthnxbai You are right. Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:44:32 GMT
The title was from the person that made the video and while your objection to it has been noted, it doesn't change the fact that they're saying they let David Hogg get away with lies and inaccuracies. What were the lies? If one is going to call someone out for lying on TV they should at least tell one what the lies are. If they don’t tell what the lies and inaccuracies are then an argument could be made that for some reason they are being less than honest. I mean isn’t that you have been doing lately, suggesting news coming from CNN has been less than honest? Considering it's CNN saying saying they let David Hogg get away without "correcting that fact"/lie, but only provided the one insignificant one and not the others, your beef is with "less than honest" (your words here) CNN. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:46:41 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! Good afternoon all (by the time I got here).  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:48:25 GMT
And more importantly, disputing lies, untruths, and iffy statements is NOT attacking no matter how much you like playing the victim. I just watched the video over and over again. Other than the error with Dana Loesch's I found no lies... But it needs to be remembered that that video was done just TEN days after the shooting! He only named the one, but said "there were others" that he should have but did not correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 21:44:03 GMT
What were the lies? If one is going to call someone out for lying on TV they should at least tell one what the lies are. If they don’t tell what the lies and inaccuracies are then an argument could be made that for some reason they are being less than honest. I mean isn’t that you have been doing lately, suggesting news coming from CNN has been less than honest? Considering it's CNN saying saying they let David Hogg get away without "correcting that fact"/lie, but only provided the one insignificant one and not the others, your beef is with "less than honest" (your words here) CNN. “It's not even his profanity. It's his message that is so hateful, intolerant and devoid of facts and includes outright lies. Even CNN says they should have corrected all of his lies, but didn't because they didn't want to do that to a "child" and someone who survived a shooting. His message is that his "f'in parents" can't deal with technology or democracy so he/they have fix everything and anyone who disagrees with their solution has blood spattered faces and wants dead kids. Oh and that anyone on the air that disagrees with him or doesn't toe the line exactly right must be destroyed. Gee, I wonder why CNN doesn't want to correct his lies.  “ I asked you what lies. You dragged over a video with the blonde and that Brian guy. You groused because I said I don’t watch the videos so I watch the video. The video provided no lies the kid has told. Your statement above , in red, says the kid is telling outright lies. Again Gia, what “outright lies” has this kid told. It would seem to me if one is going to make the accusation they would have some sort of proof to back it up. Or, because it’s clear you don’t like the kid, are you just making it up? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 22:03:45 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends  Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! Good morning! (well, afternooon now) I had half of a good weekend, then I came down with a sore throat late Saturday night (it’s “just” a cold), which was just in time to cancel Easter plans yesterday and almost disrupt my first day of a new job today. Fortunately, it’s all classroom orientation stuff, and I was fine, but sheesh!! What stupid timing! I haven’t necessarily abandoned this thread, but, obviously, there are a few from the opposing side of the fence who can’t seem to respect this thread as a place for us to talk amongst ourselves. I can’t see the liberal catch-all thread unless I log out, but have conservatives or Trump supporters invaded that thread? Is there some sort of ‘payback’ going on that I can’t see? |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 2, 2018 22:07:06 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! I think we checked out because it became another spot to be attacked by the left. They can't stand the conservatives having a voice in anything here I'm afraid! But HELLO to you, and I hope you had a great weekend too! Does many of us go into their thread any more? I know I used to read it to see if this board sounded the same as what I hear IRL. Anyway Did anyone have any interesting conversations since it was a holiday that might have mixed company |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 2, 2018 22:12:24 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! Good morning! (well, afternooon now) I had half of a good weekend, then I came down with a sore throat late Saturday night (it’s “just” a cold), which was just in time to cancel Easter plans yesterday and almost disrupt my first day of a new job today. Fortunately, it’s all classroom orientation stuff, and I was fine, but sheesh!! What stupid timing! I haven’t necessarily abandoned this thread, but, obviously, there are a few from the opposing side of the fence who can’t seem to respect this thread as a place for us to talk amongst ourselves. I can’t see the liberal catch-all thread unless I log out, but have conservatives or Trump supporters invaded that thread? Is there some sort of ‘payback’ going on that I can’t see? Sorry you were ill  I can’t see the catch all thread unless I log out either, so I was curious too. I thought we were told to stay out of it. But I don’t know if everyone has. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 22:36:59 GMT
Good morning! (well, afternooon now) I had half of a good weekend, then I came down with a sore throat late Saturday night (it’s “just” a cold), which was just in time to cancel Easter plans yesterday and almost disrupt my first day of a new job today. Fortunately, it’s all classroom orientation stuff, and I was fine, but sheesh!! What stupid timing! I haven’t necessarily abandoned this thread, but, obviously, there are a few from the opposing side of the fence who can’t seem to respect this thread as a place for us to talk amongst ourselves. I can’t see the liberal catch-all thread unless I log out, but have conservatives or Trump supporters invaded that thread? Is there some sort of ‘payback’ going on that I can’t see? Sorry you were ill I can’t see the catch all thread unless I log out either, so I was curious too. I thought we were told to stay out of it. But I don’t know everyone has. Why do you have to log out to see the catch all threads? I don't post in those, but there are a LOT of other threads that turn out to be "catch alls" too--or political even if they didn't start out that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 22:38:15 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! Good morning! (well, afternooon now) I had half of a good weekend, then I came down with a sore throat late Saturday night (it’s “just” a cold), which was just in time to cancel Easter plans yesterday and almost disrupt my first day of a new job today. Fortunately, it’s all classroom orientation stuff, and I was fine, but sheesh!! What stupid timing! I haven’t necessarily abandoned this thread, but, obviously, there are a few from the opposing side of the fence who can’t seem to respect this thread as a place for us to talk amongst ourselves. I can’t see the liberal catch-all thread unless I log out, but have conservatives or Trump supporters invaded that thread? Is there some sort of ‘payback’ going on that I can’t see? So sorry you've been sick. I hope it doesn't last long. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 22:51:11 GMT
Sorry you were ill I can’t see the catch all thread unless I log out either, so I was curious too. I thought we were told to stay out of it. But I don’t know everyone has. Why do you have to log out to see the catch all threads? I don't post in those, but there are a LOT of other threads that turn out to be "catch alls" too--or political even if they didn't start out that way. Because we have those Peas on ignore. Last time I did look, I didn't see anyone posting there who wasn't on that side, though. Thank you and gmcwife1 for the get well wishes.  |
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 2, 2018 22:54:21 GMT
Good morning @scrubologist and friends Looks like many of us have checked out of this thread but I thought I’d stop and say hi anyway! I hope everyone had a great weekend! Good morning! (well, afternooon now) I had half of a good weekend, then I came down with a sore throat late Saturday night (it’s “just” a cold), which was just in time to cancel Easter plans yesterday and almost disrupt my first day of a new job today. Fortunately, it’s all classroom orientation stuff, and I was fine, but sheesh!! What stupid timing! I haven’t necessarily abandoned this thread, but, obviously, there are a few from the opposing side of the fence who can’t seem to respect this thread as a place for us to talk amongst ourselves. I can’t see the liberal catch-all thread unless I log out, but have conservatives or Trump supporters invaded that thread? Is there some sort of ‘payback’ going on that I can’t see? Nope. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 23:07:10 GMT
Huh, well that's good then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 23:08:39 GMT
Blocking works sometimes!! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 3, 2018 0:50:02 GMT
What were the lies? If one is going to call someone out for lying on TV they should at least tell one what the lies are. If they don’t tell what the lies and inaccuracies are then an argument could be made that for some reason they are being less than honest. I mean isn’t that you have been doing lately, suggesting news coming from CNN has been less than honest? Considering it's CNN saying saying they let David Hogg get away without "correcting that fact"/lie, but only provided the one insignificant one and not the others, your beef is with "less than honest" (your words here) CNN. The point being that neither you or anyone else knows what other “supposed lies” are and with your statements, you’re acting like they are earth shattering. For all we know they are just as insignificant as what he corrected. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 3, 2018 0:52:10 GMT
I just watched the video over and over again. Other than the error with Dana Loesch's I found no lies... But it needs to be remembered that that video was done just TEN days after the shooting! He only named the one, but said "there were others" that he should have but did not correct. She stated she watched the video and there were not any lies—other than mis-characterizing Dana Loesch as the CEO. So once again NOTHING is there. |
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Post by gale w on Apr 3, 2018 2:33:15 GMT
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Hi all! i guess it’s been a couple of months since ive logged in, I’m just now seeing this thread! Thanks for the tag. Looked like a good thread on the early pages.. skipped to page 27 and looks like the same old same ol.
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Post by Kymberlee on Apr 3, 2018 8:50:18 GMT
David Hogg calls for advertisers to punish Laura Ingraham for tweeting what David Hogg, himself said about being rejected by colleges he applied to. She apologized, but he said not good enough, that he needs to take it further. She didn't say anything hateful, racist or even wrong. Was it necessary? No, but the only objectionable thing in her statement was stating what he himself said and calling it whining. Is a boycott of her really necessary under those circumstances? I don't think so, it's extremely, almost laughably mild. Especially when contrasted to the things he has said, but he insists on continuing shutting her down. Even those generally in agreement with him are saying he's taking it too far. What is the go to boycott response to opposing viewpoints in general going to do to political discourse in this country? I completely agree with this. I just do not get it. I was going to comment a few days ago, but as usual, the thread devolved and I lost interest. She apologized and instead of acting like an adult, Hogg kept at it and refused to accept the apology. He wants to be seen and treated as an adult until being an adult is too hard. I certainly don’t think Ingraham is being the bully in this situation. I’m not going to comment on the CNN video because I think people are arguing shades of grey, and regardless of what I think, someone is going to argue. I do have a question regarding the “caravan” of people that are planning to cross our border en masse from Mexico. I watched two different news stations this morning; one covered it almost exclusively and the other didn’t mention it at all. So, which is it? The sky is falling or nothing to see here? |
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Post by katieanna on Apr 3, 2018 11:37:45 GMT
Hi all! i guess it’s been a couple of months since ive logged in, I’m just now seeing this thread! Thanks for the tag. Looked like a good thread on the early pages.. skipped to page 27 and looks like the same old same ol. It didn't take long, did it? |
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