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Post by jenis40 on Feb 5, 2018 16:25:34 GMT
1) I see no political meaning behind her clothing choice and thought she looked perfectly acceptable.
2) Saying she is “classier” than previous First Ladies, particularly the first black First Lady who was praised for her poise, clothing and work, sounds partisan and clueless at best.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 5, 2018 16:42:06 GMT
1) I see no political meaning behind her clothing choice and thought she looked perfectly acceptable. 2) Saying she is “classier” than previous First Ladies, particularly the first black First Lady who was praised for her poise, clothing and work, sounds partisan and clueless at best. I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. |
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Post by compwalla on Feb 5, 2018 17:07:38 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret.
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Post by jenis40 on Feb 5, 2018 17:11:46 GMT
1) I see no political meaning behind her clothing choice and thought she looked perfectly acceptable. 2) Saying she is “classier” than previous First Ladies, particularly the first black First Lady who was praised for her poise, clothing and work, sounds partisan and clueless at best. I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. My apologies, I conflated two separate posters. “Looks better” is worse than “classier” however so my point stands. I am in complete agreement with your post and would add both Laura and Barbara Bush as First Ladies who I would want to be friends with. I have no beef with Melania because there is nothing to have a beef with. I don’t care what she wears or didn’t wear and she doesn’t appear to have a platform she is promoting. I think she’s done a fine job when representing the United States. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 5, 2018 17:20:28 GMT
jenis40, on that point I agree. I think we all do women a disservice when we focus on looks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 17:25:58 GMT
1) I see no political meaning behind her clothing choice and thought she looked perfectly acceptable. 2) Saying she is “classier” than previous First Ladies, particularly the first black First Lady who was praised for her poise, clothing and work, sounds partisan and clueless at best. I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. I didn't start this thread, but it started out about clothing--and what Melania wore. I stated she looked beautiful. I also think Melania can shine when she wants to. If she wants to be arm candy, I guess that is up to her. I also said (IMO) she certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. If you will see it says (IMO) I am entitled to have an opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 17:27:42 GMT
jenis40 , on that point I agree. I think we all do women a disservice when we focus on looks. and that is what the op started with. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 5, 2018 17:29:16 GMT
I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. I didn't start this thread, but it started out about clothing--and what Melania wore. I stated she looked beautiful. I also think Melania can shine when she wants to. If she wants to be arm candy, I guess that is up to her. I also said (IMO) she certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. If you will see it says (IMO) I am entitled to have an opinion. Well Melania doesn't give us much to talk about other than her clothing. And personally I think it is smart of her not to. |
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Post by Tamhugh on Feb 5, 2018 17:40:59 GMT
I doubt that Melania was making a statement, not because I think she lacks intelligence, but because I think she doesn’t care. She seems so unhappy in this role and like she would rather just go back to raising her son in relative peace. I can’t blame her for that.
In any case, if she is just listening to her stylist, I wish I had one because she always looks perfectly put together. I always look like the before photos on What Not to Wear.
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Post by pierogi on Feb 5, 2018 17:58:26 GMT
I’m not yet convinced that she was making a statement with her outfit, but I will give her this: when Trump headed to Davos without her, and she made that unexpected visit to the Holocaust Museum, she was clearly giving his base the finger.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 5, 2018 18:04:29 GMT
*IF* she is using her clothing for a message (which I can't decide if I believe or not) I do not think he or his handlers would even get the message.
I do think she has looked stunning when she appears in public (though I did not like her bomber jacket last night).
She was a model. She knows clothes and what makes her look glamorous.
IMO, most first ladies come from an environment in which the woman has been on her own to purchase clothing. Few have come from a background in which they had unlimited funds to purchase, nor advisors for the clothing. Most evolve during the term of office to look much classier and put together than when the husband took the oath of office.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 18:34:00 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. |
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Post by compwalla on Feb 5, 2018 18:46:13 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Bless your heart. I have plenty of empathy for people. Just not particularly for her. She defends indefensible behavior and there is no excuse for that. If my husband bragged about grabbing pussy (sexual assault) I would not go on TV and say it was ok. No. |
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Post by lucyg on Feb 5, 2018 19:06:11 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Ha. Another one who doesn't understand the concept of irony, I see. |
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 5, 2018 19:17:44 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Wow! You really don't want to make it personal do you. (sarcasm) Is this the conservative way of civil discussion? You are allowed your opinions of Melania but so is everyone! Would it be a civil discussion if I were to say that anyone who thought Melania was a good first Lady was dumb as fuck. Let's remember who is starting the personal attacks here. |
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Post by lovetodigi on Feb 5, 2018 19:18:58 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Yep, it is very obvious that you don’t know Compwella personally or around the board or you would know that she is a longtime fixture on the Peas, a Pea that is loved by many and is going through some serious trials in her life right now. She does not need to be attacked by the likes of you. You should apologize to her immediately and spend some time reflecting on how easily you personally attack someone that did nothing to you at all. (Yes, I realize that I am attacking you. You have attacked a friend for no reason other than you are obviously a miserable person) Maybe you should go back through some past posts and then you might be able to figure out what an a**hole you are being by posting what you did. |
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 5, 2018 19:19:45 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Careful, with language like that you might get yourself labeled a filthy liberal! And is it irony, hypocrisy, or meta to tell somebody they are crude as fuck? |
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Post by jenis40 on Feb 5, 2018 19:29:20 GMT
I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. I didn't start this thread, but it started out about clothing--and what Melania wore. I stated she looked beautiful. I also think Melania can shine when she wants to. If she wants to be arm candy, I guess that is up to her. I also said (IMO) she certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. If you will see it says (IMO) I am entitled to have an opinion. I think we all get in trouble when we start making comparisons. Your opinion could have been delivered without the added rancor of “better than” implying recent First Ladies, especially the first black one, did not “look good”. It invites this kind of push back and derailment in a thread (and a lot of us have been guilty of that in some form or fashion). Unless of course, that was your intention. |
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Post by purplebee on Feb 5, 2018 19:31:54 GMT
I cannot resist commenting on the absolute irony of the "crude as fuck" statement! And directed at Compwalla of all people! Unintentionally hilarious, but also quite rude.
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Post by compwalla on Feb 5, 2018 19:33:31 GMT
Yep, it is very obvious that you don’t know Compwella personally or around the board or you would know that she is a longtime fixture on the Peas, a Pea that is loved by many and is going through some serious trials in her life right now. She does not need to be attacked by the likes of you. You should apologize to her immediately and spend some time reflecting on how easily you personally attack someone that did nothing to you at all. (Yes, I realize that I am attacking you. You have attacked a friend for no reason other than you are obviously a miserable person) Maybe you should go back through some past posts and then you might be able to figure out what an a**hole you are being by posting what you did. That is very sweet but I am wholly unbothered by her comment. She is entitled to her opinion as is everyone. And I will concede on the crude as fuck part. Sometimes I am.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 19:34:03 GMT
My opinion of how Melania dresses is it sucks. She wore a jacket in Paris that when I saw I thought whoever designed that and convinced her to wear should be taken out and shot.
The best I have ever seen her look is when she stepped off Air Force One in Texas wearing jeans, tennis shoes, a white shirt and her hair was in a ponytail.
I also believe that she has created look that she thinks makes her look like a First Lady when in reality it comes off looking as an ex-model turned trophy wife.
I also believe the reports she didn’t want trump to win and as such is trying to grow into to the roll she didn’t want. Cudos to her.
As to not liking her choice of clothes she wears it really doesn’t matter what I think if she is happy with her choices.
I didn’t like Michelle Obama’s inaugural dress either. Didn’t like it the first time I saw it on TV and didn’t like it when I saw it up close & personal at the Smithsonian either. However there was some exquisite details that were lost by those patches of fabric stuck on it. Again if she was happy wearing it what difference does it make if I liked it or not.
As to Melania’s choice for a husband she is getting no empathy from me as she made the choice. It wasn’t like she didn’t have any idea the man trump is because there were two previous marriages that ended because trump couldn’t keep his zipper closed. My guess it wasn’t a starry eyed romance thing but one of what each party could get from the other party in this merger.
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Post by whiskerfish on Feb 6, 2018 2:55:27 GMT
I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. You should probably re-read what you wrote and see if it applies to you. (Hint: it does) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 9:47:46 GMT
She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO) ...especially when looking up her hoo-ha or when she has her fake naked boobs hanging out, we've certainly seen a LOT more of Melania than any other first lady ever. But somehow I doubt that's positive thing. Typical racist bullshit from you. There was nothing having anything to do with race in that statement, or even alluding to it. At all. Typical smear tactic from you. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 6, 2018 11:32:59 GMT
Gee...do we nasty mean liberals need to make “rules” or have “safe threads” where certain peas can’t be mean, call us names, or shut us down?
Go play in your own sandbox...
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Post by busy on Feb 6, 2018 13:52:56 GMT
Melania Trump can barely make a statement at all. She's a woman locked in a prison she voluntarily walked into and if she makes any statement beyond "help me" it would be a surprise. I have never seen a woman who more obviously hates her own husband that she does but I have zero sympathy for her because who he is as a person is not now nor ever has been a great secret. "Cause you made your bed; now lay in it." --Beyonce A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Damnit, I thought liberals had cornered the market on nasty, personal attacks. At least that’s what conservatives are always claiming. Get out of our sandbox - only we can be awful! |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 6, 2018 14:15:00 GMT
I think that she is very pretty, and always looks good. She doesn’t have much affect, and I wonder if she is being stoic because she never wanted to be FL. I can’t figure her out at all, which is probably the way that she likes it.
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Post by imsirius on Feb 6, 2018 15:35:37 GMT
Conservatives are on their thread stating how mean Dems are, yet the nastiness and personal attacks came from a Repub. Blown away by the hypocrisy..wait, I,m not, because that’s how Republicans roll, even in the WH.
I think Melania is gorgeous and she has never wanted this life. She didn't want to be dragged from NY to Washington, she didn't want her husband to run for a president, and she gives two shits about politics. HE put her there without regard for her wishes or that of their son.
If she wants to wear white, so be it. It may be her signature colour, she might like the fabric, or maybe she doesn't care.
All I know is she isn't the “best First Lady you've had in a long while”.Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush, and Michelle Obama were ALL classy and very dignified women. They were not involved in scandals and they were loved dearly by their husbands. Melania has none of that unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 15:44:41 GMT
Conservatives are on their thread stating how mean Dems are, yet the nastiness and personal attacks came from a Repub. Blown away by the hypocrisy..wait, I,m not, because that’s how Republicans roll, even in the WH. I think Melania is gorgeous and she has never wanted this life. She didn't want to be dragged from NY to Washington, she didn't want her husband to run for a president, and she gives two shits about politics. HE put her there without regard for her wishes or that of their son. If she wants to wear white, so be it. It may be her signature colour, she might like the fabric, or maybe she doesn't care. All I know is she isn't the “best First Lady you've had in a long while”.Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush, and Michelle Obama were ALL classy and very dignified women. They were not involved in scandals and they were loved dearly by their husbands. Melania has none of that unfortunately. The nastiness and personal attacks from the Left predate the one personal attack you're referring to from a Reblican. By years. No one said they thought “best First Lady you've had in a long while”. What they said was, in their opinion she is the best looking First Lady. In their opinion. You can't make someone's opinion wrong. It's theirs, not yours. |
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Post by hutchfan on Feb 6, 2018 15:56:18 GMT
Loved the outfit. She was in Cincinnati yesterday visiting our Children's Hospital and she was wonderful during the whole visit, spoke eloquently and brought Valentine's and presents to all the children.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:01:20 GMT
I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. You didn't really think it through did you? |
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