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Post by pierogi on Feb 6, 2018 16:35:37 GMT
Eh, I'm not really concerned about the opinions of people who refer to the homeless, the undocumented, the mentally ill and the poor as cockroaches and vermin.
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Post by pierogi on Feb 6, 2018 17:30:07 GMT
Eh, I'm not really concerned about the opinions of people who refer to the homeless, the undocumented, the mentally ill and the poor as cockroaches and vermin. Wait, did someone on this board use those terms that way, or are we just referring to political party rhetoric? Sent you a pm.
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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2018 17:31:39 GMT
Eh, I'm not really concerned about the opinions of people who refer to the homeless, the undocumented, the mentally ill and the poor as cockroaches and vermin. Wait, did someone on this board use those terms that way, or are we just referring to political party rhetoric? I hope this wasn't said on this board. How horrible. SaveSave
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Post by busy on Feb 6, 2018 17:31:43 GMT
Eh, I'm not really concerned about the opinions of people who refer to the homeless, the undocumented, the mentally ill and the poor as cockroaches and vermin. Wait, did someone on this board use those terms that way, or are we just referring to political party rhetoric? Yes, someone posted a (not written by her) piece on the California thread that said, among other extremely unsavory things, undocumented immigrants “breed like cockroaches.”
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 6, 2018 17:33:05 GMT
A lot of women become involved with men that they think is going to change just for them or that act a certain way to them that is different than everyone else, making them feel special. Until they aren't special and the relationship is toxic. So, it's not just Melania Trump in a toxic marital relationship. I've been around this board for awhile and I don't know you personally, but you really come across as crude as fuck. You don't have to give anyone your sympathy, but empathy goes a long way. Condemning people you don't even know paints you as ignorant. That Beyoncé quote fits here too. Yep, it is very obvious that you don’t know Compwella personally or around the board or you would know that she is a longtime fixture on the Peas, a Pea that is loved by many and is going through some serious trials in her life right now. She does not need to be attacked by the likes of you. You should apologize to her immediately and spend some time reflecting on how easily you personally attack someone that did nothing to you at all. (Yes, I realize that I am attacking you. You have attacked a friend for no reason other than you are obviously a miserable person) Maybe you should go back through some past posts and then you might be able to figure out what an a**hole you are being by posting what you did. Really... I just wish people would quit using the word "attack" to describe an opinion. She said "You really come across..." She didn't say you are (as you did.) She didn't in any way impede a persons life or egress. Chill out geeze. Besides... word for word off of dictionarydotcom Attack: definition 3) to blame or abuse violently or bitterly. I think in this instance Melania's well being was considered a non-issue or valid trade because Compwalla felt justified in blaming her for the behavior of her husband. That said, I have no sympathy for drug users. However, in the event that a friend of my mothers' daughter overdosed, I didn't feel it necessary to bash her and wallow in self righteousness.
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Post by compwalla on Feb 6, 2018 17:48:13 GMT
because Compwalla felt justified in blaming her for the behavior of her husband. No, no no no no. I do not blame her for the behavior of her husband. HE did those things. What she is responsible for is excusing that behavior. "It's just boy talk." No, it isn't. And to say it is, that's not ok with me. She owns that because she did it, not her husband. And I don't feel sorry for her because who he is and how he rolls was well known to her before she married him. She made a deal with the devil and she can either stay or leave but I am not about to say, "Poor Melania." Nope. The only person I do feel sorry for is Barron because he didn't get to choose his parents. He is an innocent child stuck in a situation he didn't ask for and doesn't deserve. No kid does. And the mom of the kid who overdosed doesn't deserve blame for the drug habit. But if she knows the kid is stealing to support his habit and hides him from cops looking to arrest him for theft? My cousin did this. That's criminal. Drug habit? Not her fault. Harboring a fugitive? Totally her fault.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 6, 2018 19:36:02 GMT
Yep, it is very obvious that you don’t know Compwella personally or around the board or you would know that she is a longtime fixture on the Peas, a Pea that is loved by many and is going through some serious trials in her life right now. She does not need to be attacked by the likes of you. You should apologize to her immediately and spend some time reflecting on how easily you personally attack someone that did nothing to you at all. (Yes, I realize that I am attacking you. You have attacked a friend for no reason other than you are obviously a miserable person) Maybe you should go back through some past posts and then you might be able to figure out what an a**hole you are being by posting what you did. Really... I just wish people would quit using the word "attack" to describe an opinion. She said "You really come across..." She didn't say you are (as you did.) She didn't in any way impede a persons life or egress. Chill out geeze.Besides... word for word off of dictionarydotcom Attack: definition 3) to blame or abuse violently or bitterly. I think in this instance Melania's well being was considered a non-issue or valid trade because Compwalla felt justified in blaming her for the behavior of her husband. That said, I have no sympathy for drug users. However, in the event that a friend of my mothers' daughter overdosed, I didn't feel it necessary to bash her and wallow in self righteousness. Wait, you are excusing that very personal attack because she said, "you come across as ... " instead of, "you are ... "?? That's an impressive reach you got there. And yes, an opinion can most certainly be an attack. Read the definition you posted.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 6, 2018 19:46:15 GMT
There was nothing having anything to do with race in that statement, or even alluding to it. At all. Well, that statement is right up there with, "Some of my best friends are black," and, "I don't see race." If you couldn't see any allusion to race in this statement: then you were bound and determined not to see it. ETA if she had said the First Lady is gorgeous no matter what she wears, no one would have thought twice about it. Going out of her way to say MT looks better than any First Lady in a long time is a deliberate jab at our most recent previous, quite beautiful, but unquestionably black, First Lady.
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Post by sunraynnc on Feb 7, 2018 0:48:28 GMT
Gee...do we nasty mean liberals need to make “rules” or have “safe threads” where certain peas can’t be mean, call us names, or shut us down? Go play in your own sandbox... Not very globalist of you. Gotta share that sandbox.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 2:31:30 GMT
There was nothing having anything to do with race in that statement, or even alluding to it. At all. Well, that statement is right up there with, "Some of my best friends are black," and, "I don't see race." If you couldn't see any allusion to race in this statement: then you were bound and determined not to see it. ETA if she had said the First Lady is gorgeous no matter what she wears, no one would have thought twice about it. Going out of her way to say MT looks better than any First Lady in a long time is a deliberate jab at our most recent previous, quite beautiful, but unquestionably black, First Lady.
I disagree. She mentioned ANY first lady in a long time. You pulling out one particular First Lady because she's black, is YOU focusing on race. There is absolutely nothing about race in HER statement. No where.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 7, 2018 3:07:35 GMT
Gee...do we nasty mean liberals need to make “rules” or have “safe threads” where certain peas can’t be mean, call us names, or shut us down? Go play in your own sandbox... Not very globalist of you. Gotta share that sandbox. Context sweetheart. It matters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 3:11:58 GMT
Well, that statement is right up there with, "Some of my best friends are black," and, "I don't see race." If you couldn't see any allusion to race in this statement: then you were bound and determined not to see it. ETA if she had said the First Lady is gorgeous no matter what she wears, no one would have thought twice about it. Going out of her way to say MT looks better than any First Lady in a long time is a deliberate jab at our most recent previous, quite beautiful, but unquestionably black, First Lady.
I disagree. She mentioned ANY first lady in a long time. You pulling out one particular First Lady because she's black, is YOU focusing on race. There is absolutely nothing about race in HER statement. No where. No kidding. I wish I could say that I was shocked that someone, anyone would glean anything racist about what was said, but typically I find that people who insist on focusing on color and even going as far as to insert it into a discussion or sentence where it had not previously been are the ones who are truly racist.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 7, 2018 3:30:22 GMT
anyone would glean anything racist about what was said, Really? I don't find it shocking that people who actually are racist and who make those sorts of 'hidden' racist comments think just because they didn't type it out word for word in racist terms will think that the rest of us won't notice. The people who see and call it out are not in fact racists themselves...they are the ones who recognise the comment for what it is. What exactly was there not to like about Michelle Obama? ...did we see her bare tit & ass in a magazine layout rolling around in her husbands gold plated jet? Did we see her in soft porn images with another naked woman? Did she obviously marry a fat old man for his money? Can she barely string a sentence together (not talking about accent here either)? Did she lie about her University education on her personal website? Nope Michelle did none of those. But... is she attractive? is she slim? Does she look like she cares about her appearance and obviously takes good care of herself? Does she wear nice clothes? Does she promote exercise and a healthy lifestyle and healthy eating habits? Was she always kind and polite to people? That would be a yeas to all of those, so what could possibly be the ONLY thing that makes Melania "much better than her"? Take a wild guess. Racism doesn't have to be overt, people don't have to say or type the exact words for it still to exist. That's part of the problem and keeps it going when people say: Oh but I didn't "say" anything specific. It can still scream out at you from between the unsaid words.
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Post by imkat on Feb 7, 2018 5:37:07 GMT
I must be in the minority, but I really don't care for her clothes. I'm sure it's high fashion, but just very ugly to me. The yellow sweater/jacket, and rust skirt she just wore in the last day or so were especially ugly. I don't like the paramilitary outfits, thick belts, or gaucho pants either. She has the figure of a model of course, but her clothes don't really do her justice.
I much prefer Michelle Obama's style.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 7, 2018 7:17:38 GMT
I disagree. She mentioned ANY first lady in a long time. You pulling out one particular First Lady because she's black, is YOU focusing on race. There is absolutely nothing about race in HER statement. No where. No kidding. I wish I could say that I was shocked that someone, anyone would glean anything racist about what was said, but typically I find that people who insist on focusing on color and even going as far as to insert it into a discussion or sentence where it had not previously been are the ones who are truly racist. Just as charming as always, I see. Other than out-of-the-closet white supremacists, pretty much no one admits to being racist anymore, openly or even just to themselves. I will continue to believe that that comment was obliquely racist, whether it was done deliberately or not. If not, perhaps the PP would like to explore her buried feelings a little more carefully. As for you calling me racist, meh. I've already been called racist by tougher peas than you. My conscience is clear and my feelings aren't that easily hurt.
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Post by compwalla on Feb 7, 2018 15:08:02 GMT
Racism doesn't have to be overt, people don't have to say or type the exact words for it still to exist. That's part of the problem and keeps it going when people say: Oh but I didn't "say" anything specific. It can still scream out at you from between the unsaid words. Exactly. This is what is meant by "dog-whistle" references. It's The subtext that communicates the racism, not the actual words.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 1:21:13 GMT
anyone would glean anything racist about what was said, Really? I don't find it shocking that people who actually are racist and who make those sorts of 'hidden' racist comments think just because they didn't type it out word for word in racist terms will think that the rest of us won't notice. The people who see and call it out are not in fact racists themselves...they are the ones who recognise the comment for what it is. What exactly was there not to like about Michelle Obama? ...did we see her bare tit & ass in a magazine layout rolling around in her husbands gold plated jet? Did we see her in soft porn images with another naked woman? Did she obviously marry a fat old man for his money? Can she barely string a sentence together (not talking about accent here either)? Did she lie about her University education on her personal website? Nope Michelle did none of those. But... is she attractive? is she slim? Does she look like she cares about her appearance and obviously takes good care of herself? Does she wear nice clothes? Does she promote exercise and a healthy lifestyle and healthy eating habits? Was she always kind and polite to people? That would be a yeas to all of those, so what could possibly be the ONLY thing that makes Melania "much better than her"? Take a wild guess.
Racism doesn't have to be overt, people don't have to say or type the exact words for it still to exist. That's part of the problem and keeps it going when people say: Oh but I didn't "say" anything specific. It can still scream out at you from between the unsaid words. She said "She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" In order to make your point you left out a word, which changes the point you're addressing. And like Lucy, you are ignoring Donnie's comparison of ALL the First Ladies (black and white) and YOU are the one focusing on one First Lady because of her color. There was nothing referencing, alluding to, insinuating, "dog whistling" or any other weaponized label you want to put on it, in @donnie 's statement, whatsoever. The only racist context is from those pulling out one race of one First Lady by those objecting to @donnie 's opinion that Melania "looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" That is her opinion and you can't make it wrong no matter how hard you try. It's hers, not yours. The weaponizing of labels is being used to shut down conversation. You should ask yourself why you're so opposed to someone having a different opinion than you, that you must shut them down in this way.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Feb 9, 2018 1:38:10 GMT
Really? I don't find it shocking that people who actually are racist and who make those sorts of 'hidden' racist comments think just because they didn't type it out word for word in racist terms will think that the rest of us won't notice. The people who see and call it out are not in fact racists themselves...they are the ones who recognise the comment for what it is. What exactly was there not to like about Michelle Obama? ...did we see her bare tit & ass in a magazine layout rolling around in her husbands gold plated jet? Did we see her in soft porn images with another naked woman? Did she obviously marry a fat old man for his money? Can she barely string a sentence together (not talking about accent here either)? Did she lie about her University education on her personal website? Nope Michelle did none of those. But... is she attractive? is she slim? Does she look like she cares about her appearance and obviously takes good care of herself? Does she wear nice clothes? Does she promote exercise and a healthy lifestyle and healthy eating habits? Was she always kind and polite to people? That would be a yeas to all of those, so what could possibly be the ONLY thing that makes Melania "much better than her"? Take a wild guess.
Racism doesn't have to be overt, people don't have to say or type the exact words for it still to exist. That's part of the problem and keeps it going when people say: Oh but I didn't "say" anything specific. It can still scream out at you from between the unsaid words. She said "She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" In order to make your point you left out a word, which changes the point you're addressing. And like Lucy, you are ignoring Donnie's comparison of ALL the First Ladies (black and white) and YOU are the one focusing on one First Lady because of her color. There was nothing referencing, alluding to, insinuating, "dog whistling" or any other weaponized label you want to put on it, in @donnie 's statement, whatsoever. The only racist context is from those pulling out one race of one First Lady by those objecting to @donnie 's opinion that Melania "looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" That is her opinion and you can't make it wrong no matter how hard you try. It's hers, not yours. The weaponizing of labels is being used to shut down conversation. You should ask yourself why you're so opposed to someone having a different opinion than you, that you must shut them down in this way. Weaponizing of labels?
Is that the replacement for "politically correct" or "you're not being tolerant" rhetoric used by people who don't want to examine or acknowledge the discrimination, racial bias, etc. that is still prevalent in modern society ??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 2:08:17 GMT
She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO) Ladies I do not believe this is a racist statement because she is referring to what she wears. Basically. Definitely catty but not racist. IMO. How many times was Hillary slammed for what she wore? Was that racist? No, catty for sure and maybe sexist but not racist. I remember there was even an outcry because Hillary supposedly paid $2,500 for one of her pant suits. Women can certainly be catty about other women but let’s don’t confuse someone being catty for being racist. That’s my two cents worth. PS - It wouldn’t have been a catty statement if it was something like “I think Melania looks good no matter what she wears period.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 2:10:06 GMT
She said "She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" In order to make your point you left out a word, which changes the point you're addressing. And like Lucy, you are ignoring Donnie's comparison of ALL the First Ladies (black and white) and YOU are the one focusing on one First Lady because of her color. There was nothing referencing, alluding to, insinuating, "dog whistling" or any other weaponized label you want to put on it, in @donnie 's statement, whatsoever. The only racist context is from those pulling out one race of one First Lady by those objecting to @donnie 's opinion that Melania "looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO)" That is her opinion and you can't make it wrong no matter how hard you try. It's hers, not yours. The weaponizing of labels is being used to shut down conversation. You should ask yourself why you're so opposed to someone having a different opinion than you, that you must shut them down in this way. Weaponizing of labels?
Is that the replacement for "politically correct" or "you're not being tolerant" rhetoric used by people who don't want to examine or acknowledge the discrimination, racial bias, etc. that is still prevalent in modern society ?? It's what people do who insist those things are in a statement where they clearly don't exist in the statement. People who say, "You didn't say any of those things, but I don't like you're opinion, so I'm going to say you 'secretly' did in order to demonize you and invalidate your opinion. Because I just can't handle difference of opinion."
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Post by redhead32 on Feb 9, 2018 2:12:49 GMT
I had to look back at this thread. No one said she was classier. In fact, the only person who even used the word classy, used it to describe Michelle Obama and put down Melania. The fact is, Michelle Obama has intelligence, integrity, class. I would totally want to be her friend. She was an excellent role model. Her husband allowed and encouraged her to shine and she did. Melania is beautiful but her partner does not allow her to shine as anything other than arm candy. And then we wonder why a pea would comment on her beauty, instead of her substance. I didn't start this thread, but it started out about clothing--and what Melania wore. I stated she looked beautiful. I also think Melania can shine when she wants to. If she wants to be arm candy, I guess that is up to her. I also said (IMO) she certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. If you will see it says (IMO) I am entitled to have an opinion. I read your original comment, and heard "especially Michelle Obama" in my head when I did. If you frequent ANY social media, that is a very typical sentiment and worded very similar to your wording. So when I saw/read your comment, my mind filled in the rest of the blanks - especially given some of your previous comments on this board about politics and current events. You didn't say anything explicitly about Michelle Obama, and anyone on this board can express an opinion. How you express it is up to you. But, like all communication, some words strung together will be interpreted differently than other. Other peas have already covered that ground in this thread.
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Post by redhead32 on Feb 9, 2018 2:18:51 GMT
No kidding. I wish I could say that I was shocked that someone, anyone would glean anything racist about what was said, but typically I find that people who insist on focusing on color and even going as far as to insert it into a discussion or sentence where it had not previously been are the ones who are truly racist. Just as charming as always, I see. Other than out-of-the-closet white supremacists, pretty much no one admits to being racist anymore, openly or even just to themselves. I will continue to believe that that comment was obliquely racist, whether it was done deliberately or not. If not, perhaps the PP would like to explore her buried feelings a little more carefully. As for you calling me racist, meh. I've already been called racist by tougher peas than you. My conscience is clear and my feelings aren't that easily hurt. This is so true. I just taught a lesson about Loving v. Virginia, the 1967 US S.Ct. case that struck down anti-miscegenation laws. The lower court decisions had language in them about God separating the races for a reason, and the documentary clip we watched talked about people not considering themselves racists but being completely against interracial marriage. For that matter, the viral video last year of the latino woman who interviewed the KKK couple showed the man saying they weren't racist.
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Post by pierogi on Feb 9, 2018 2:37:50 GMT
She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO) Ladies I do not believe this is a racist statement because she is referring to what she wears. Basically. Definitely catty but not racist. IMO. How many times was Hillary slammed for what she wore? Was that racist? No, catty for sure and maybe sexist but not racist. I remember there was even an outcry because Hillary supposedly paid $2,500 for one of her pant suits. Women can certainly be catty about other women but let’s don’t confuse someone being catty for being racist. That’s my two cents worth. PS - It wouldn’t have been a catty statement if it was something like “I think Melania looks good no matter what she wears period. That’s not what she said right there in the quote. “No matter what she wears.” Very clearly NOT discussing clothing. I remember well the insults slung at Michelle: N-word, gorilla, monkey, crack whore, welfare queen, uppity bitch, c##n, ugly c#nt, Moochelle, fat angry N-word, mud person, and that’s just the ones I remember off the top of my head. So when conservatives gush about how “classy” Melania is, a woman who could hardly care less about being First Lady, their intended meaning is loud and clear.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 3:08:53 GMT
Ladies I do not believe this is a racist statement because she is referring to what she wears. Basically. Definitely catty but not racist. IMO. How many times was Hillary slammed for what she wore? Was that racist? No, catty for sure and maybe sexist but not racist. I remember there was even an outcry because Hillary supposedly paid $2,500 for one of her pant suits. Women can certainly be catty about other women but let’s don’t confuse someone being catty for being racist. That’s my two cents worth. PS - It wouldn’t have been a catty statement if it was something like “I think Melania looks good no matter what she wears period. That’s not what she said right there in the quote. “No matter what she wears.” Very clearly NOT discussing clothing. I remember well the insults slung at Michelle: N-word, gorilla, monkey, crack whore, welfare queen, uppity bitch, c##n, ugly c#nt, Moochelle, fat angry N-word, mud person, and that’s just the ones I remember off the top of my head. So when conservatives gush about how “classy” Melania is, a woman who could hardly care less about being First Lady, their intended meaning is loud and clear. That isn't what she did or said either. Quit trying to turn a benign statement into something racist. It just isn't there.
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Post by LiLi on Feb 9, 2018 3:38:38 GMT
She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO) @donnie just probably prefers the naked, porn whore look. That is the most obvious different look Melania puts forth more than any other recent first lady.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 9, 2018 3:59:07 GMT
Ladies I do not believe this is a racist statement because she is referring to what she wears. Basically. Definitely catty but not racist. IMO. How many times was Hillary slammed for what she wore? Was that racist? No, catty for sure and maybe sexist but not racist. I remember there was even an outcry because Hillary supposedly paid $2,500 for one of her pant suits. Women can certainly be catty about other women but let’s don’t confuse someone being catty for being racist. That’s my two cents worth. PS - It wouldn’t have been a catty statement if it was something like “I think Melania looks good no matter what she wears period. That’s not what she said right there in the quote. “No matter what she wears.” Very clearly NOT discussing clothing. I remember well the insults slung at Michelle: N-word, gorilla, monkey, crack whore, welfare queen, uppity bitch, c##n, ugly c#nt, Moochelle, fat angry N-word, mud person, and that’s just the ones I remember off the top of my head. So when conservatives gush about how “classy” Melania is, a woman who could hardly care less about being First Lady, their intended meaning is loud and clear. that^^^ is the part that caught my attention, too. It's not the first time I've read it either. Assuming all other things being equal (they could be wearing different things, same thing or nothing if "no matter what she wears") I would have to assume you (general) are saying one of the ladies is superior or looks better in some other way. Then considering their backgrounds and past experiences, it seems prejudiced in one's favor to me for what reason? and not in this instance, but I have heard/read how much classier Melania is than Michelle, again considering their background, eduacation etc makes me go "hmmm, how is she classier?" than Michelle with all of her accomplishments and in helping others?
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Post by dewryce on Feb 9, 2018 4:01:16 GMT
She certainly looks better than any first lady we've had in a long time no matter what she wears. (IMO) @donnie just probably prefers the naked, porn whore look. That is the most obvious different look Melania puts forth more than any other recent first lady. Come on, that's not necessary.
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Post by LiLi on Feb 9, 2018 4:18:35 GMT
@donnie just probably prefers the naked, porn whore look. That is the most obvious different look Melania puts forth more than any other recent first lady. Come on, that's not necessary. Okay, so let me re-word that. Melania Trump spent at least half her life posing nude for money. This is a very different look than any recent first lady. This may be what Donnie is referring to. (Facts, son. Facts.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 4:30:00 GMT
Ladies I do not believe this is a racist statement because she is referring to what she wears. Basically. Definitely catty but not racist. IMO. How many times was Hillary slammed for what she wore? Was that racist? No, catty for sure and maybe sexist but not racist. I remember there was even an outcry because Hillary supposedly paid $2,500 for one of her pant suits. Women can certainly be catty about other women but let’s don’t confuse someone being catty for being racist. That’s my two cents worth. PS - It wouldn’t have been a catty statement if it was something like “I think Melania looks good no matter what she wears period. That’s not what she said right there in the quote. “No matter what she wears.” Very clearly NOT discussing clothing. I remember well the insults slung at Michelle: N-word, gorilla, monkey, crack whore, welfare queen, uppity bitch, c##n, ugly c#nt, Moochelle, fat angry N-word, mud person, and that’s just the ones I remember off the top of my head. So when conservatives gush about how “classy” Melania is, a woman who could hardly care less about being First Lady, their intended meaning is loud and clear. She also says “any First Lady in a long time “which to me would/could include Lara Bush and possibly Hillary Clinton depending how far back is meant by “in a long time”. If she had said “the last First Lady” that would be different. There is absolutely no question terrible nasty racist things have been said about Michelle Obama. None what so ever. But I’m just not seeing it in her comment. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 4:32:08 GMT
That’s not what she said right there in the quote. “No matter what she wears.” Very clearly NOT discussing clothing. I remember well the insults slung at Michelle: N-word, gorilla, monkey, crack whore, welfare queen, uppity bitch, c##n, ugly c#nt, Moochelle, fat angry N-word, mud person, and that’s just the ones I remember off the top of my head. So when conservatives gush about how “classy” Melania is, a woman who could hardly care less about being First Lady, their intended meaning is loud and clear. that^^^ is the part that caught my attention, too. It's not the first time I've read it either. Assuming all other things being equal (they could be wearing different things, same thing or nothing if "no matter what she wears") I would have to assume you (general) are saying one of the ladies is superior or looks better in some other way. Then considering their backgrounds and past experiences, it seems prejudiced in one's favor to me for what reason? and not in this instance, but I have heard/read how much classier Melania is than Michelle, again considering their background, eduacation etc makes me go "hmmm, how is she classier?" than Michelle with all of her accomplishments and in helping others? A lot of things could go into what determines what one thinks is classy. Is it because she lives in a posh New York City high rise? Is it because she's extremely rich? Is it because she always dresses in upscale clothing and heels? Is it because her makeup is always done to perfection and every hair in place? Is it because she lives in a golden palace? Is it because someone perceives her mannerisms and way of speaking as classy? Is it because her lifestyle in general is expensive and high maintenance? There are endless things that could contribute to that perception, all having nothing to do with skin color. Michelle is filled with class, up one side and down the other, but at the same time, she's down to earth, relatable and likable. Some might not relate that to classy, instead they find the type of criteria above to be classy. Everyone's perception of the differences in these two woman and what constitutes class to THEM is going to be different and the ones who think what constitutes class that is different from what you think constitutes class doesn't mean they're basing their decision on the color of their skin.
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