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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 0:33:11 GMT
The problem with using words casually and jokingly means that over time, the power and meaning of that word can lessen the meaning, which in turn, lessens the seriousness of the crime in people's minds.
Does he seriously think that the act of treason is a joking matter, I hope not! If he doesn't then why use the word so casually.
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Post by Merge on Feb 7, 2018 0:58:36 GMT
Fortunately, the constitution - not Trump or the GOP - explicitly defines treason. Not that Trump has ever read the document.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 7, 2018 1:06:42 GMT
The problem with using words casually and jokingly means that over time, the power and meaning of that word can lessen the meaning, which in turn, lessens the seriousness of the crime in people's minds. Does he seriously think that the act of treason is a joking matter, I hope not! If he doesn't then why use the word so casually. Good point. I think it's also important to consider the audience. Not just those literally standing in front of him, but those the message is trying to reach. In other words, his base. There is no question he has been very divisive, words like this from him are just making it worse. He knows that, he wants that and it's incredibly irresponsible. |
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Post by tincin on Feb 7, 2018 1:30:55 GMT
He wants a military parade now. He really does think he’s in NK.
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Post by mudbugs on Feb 7, 2018 1:41:42 GMT
I am just so fucking scared. I wake up every morning, drink some coffee, and get on my computer...and I hate to say it, but every morning I have to brace myself up to even read the news. Was Hawaii bombed yet? Has the stock market crashed? Are we in a nuclear war today? Are people actually going to build a WALL to keep others out? I never had this kind of fear/trepidation when Mr. Obama was President. Or even when Mr. Bush was President. And somehow, some people are okay with this. I just feel so insecure.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 7, 2018 1:43:00 GMT
oh, what- now they're trying to spin it as if it was a JOKE and he didn't really MEAN it?!? I cannot stand their spin machine; how can those people live with themselves?? it's a joke as it wasn't received well (by many). If it was better received it would become a frequent talking point for Mr has-no-real-agenda other than to enrich himself. mudbugs I know what you mean. Every time there is "breaking news" and tv/radio is interrupted I immediately think/say "oh. #$%!" then when relief comes when we (or others) will live another day. And in the last year there seems to have been more breaking-in news that ever. Crazy-town. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 7, 2018 1:45:01 GMT
I am just so fucking scared. I wake up every morning, drink some coffee, and get on my computer...and I hate to say it, but every morning I have to brace myself up to even read the news. Was Hawaii bombed yet? Has the stock market crashed? Are we in a nuclear war today? Are people actually going to build a WALL to keep others out? I never had this kind of fear/trepidation when Mr. Obama was President. Or even when Mr. Bush was President. And somehow, some people are okay with this. I just feel so insecure. You are most definitely not alone in your thought! 💕 |
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Post by elaine on Feb 7, 2018 1:46:58 GMT
Fortunately, the constitution - not Trump or the GOP - explicitly defines treason. Not that Trump has ever read the document. I’m starting to question whether a good portion of the GOP - namely every single one of them that hasn’t denounced this - has read it either. I’m willing to pay for and mail a t-shirt to every RefuPea who proudly wore a Deplorable shirt that says “I Don’t Understand the Constitutional Definition of Treason and Am Proud of It!” Pm me your name and address and I’ll get it out to you. I will also share your pea-name here, but not any of the specifics (won’t share your real name nor address). |
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Post by casii on Feb 7, 2018 2:02:50 GMT
Fortunately, the constitution - not Trump or the GOP - explicitly defines treason. Not that Trump has ever read the document. I’m starting to question whether a good portion of the GOP - namely every single one of them that hasn’t denounced this - has read it either. I’m willing to pay for and mail a t-shirt to every RefuPea who proudly wore a Deplorable shirt that says “I Don’t Understand the Constitutional Definition of Treason and Am Proud of It!” Pm me your name and address and I’ll get it out to you. I will also share your pea-name here, but not any of the specifics (won’t share your real name nor address). Great Scott, I surely hope no Refupea was so wrong thinking as to actually wear a Deplorable shirt. Even most of the conservative Peas understand Trump's 'joking' isn't right and would hope that the checks & balances would kick in before presidential standing, saluting, clapping becomes mandatory if that was really his wish. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 2:11:19 GMT
That statement was exponentially more offensive than the Deplorables statement. Where are all those Hillary Haters now? Why aren’t they equally, if not more, offended and screaming as loudly as they did about the cherry-picked portion of Hillary’s comment? Calling a portion of Trump’s supporters “deplorable” = an incredibly offensive statement, worthy of eliminating one from the presidential race Calling United States Congresspeople who don’t stand and applaud Trump “treasonous” = a-okay! I did speak out against it. |
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Post by elaine on Feb 7, 2018 2:13:52 GMT
I’m starting to question whether a good portion of the GOP - namely every single one of them that hasn’t denounced this - has read it either. I’m willing to pay for and mail a t-shirt to every RefuPea who proudly wore a Deplorable shirt that says “I Don’t Understand the Constitutional Definition of Treason and Am Proud of It!” Pm me your name and address and I’ll get it out to you. I will also share your pea-name here, but not any of the specifics (won’t share your real name nor address). Great Scott, I surely hope no Refupea was so wrong thinking as to actually wear a Deplorable shirt. Even most of the conservative Peas understand Trump's 'joking' isn't right and would hope that the checks & balances would kick in before presidential standing, saluting, clapping becomes mandatory if that was really his wish. I clearly remember, sadly, at least one RefuPea who bought one and bragged about it here. |
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Post by birdgate on Feb 7, 2018 2:23:45 GMT
He wants a military parade now. He really does think he’s in NK. (EYE-ROLL) He's been dreaming of this parade since his no show inauguration. Poor military getting pimped out by this egomaniac. Shame on anyone who voted for this conman jackass. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 2:25:22 GMT
And now we find out that actual collusion between the FBI, Justice Dept, HRC campaign, DNC, and the Obama White House to keep Trump out of the White House using a Russian dossier. We have found out no such thing.  I probably should have worded that better. It was a sloppy, angry attempt at saying the texts and facts and such are SUGGESTING there was collusion between FBI, Justice Dept, HRC campaign, DNC, and the Obama White House to keep Trump out of the White House using a Russian dossier. This should bother everyone as much as the possibility of Trump doing it. It shouldn't matter which side your on. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 5:46:10 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions......
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Post by lucyg on Feb 7, 2018 6:50:12 GMT
We have found out no such thing. I probably should have worded that better. It was a sloppy, angry attempt at saying the texts and facts and such are SUGGESTING there was collusion between FBI, Justice Dept, HRC campaign, DNC, and the Obama White House to keep Trump out of the White House using a Russian dossier. This should bother everyone as much as the possibility of Trump doing it. It shouldn't matter which side your on. I disgaree with your take on the situation, but I do appreciate your polite response. Thank you. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 7, 2018 12:02:41 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 7, 2018 12:15:39 GMT
I am just so fucking scared. I wake up every morning, drink some coffee, and get on my computer...and I hate to say it, but every morning I have to brace myself up to even read the news. Was Hawaii bombed yet? Has the stock market crashed? Are we in a nuclear war today? Are people actually going to build a WALL to keep others out? I never had this kind of fear/trepidation when Mr. Obama was President. Or even when Mr. Bush was President. And somehow, some people are okay with this. I just feel so insecure. I do too. I am constantly worried about what dumb thing he will say or do next. |
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 7, 2018 12:20:32 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. From all the much needed social programs they are going to trash ASAP. And also education. Because if there’s something politicians love to do, it’s take money away from the education budget to pay for other things they deem more important. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 7, 2018 12:32:43 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. I’ll give you 1 parade for no wall ( where’s an auctioneer when you need one ) |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 7, 2018 13:47:06 GMT
Referring to Sara Huckabee sanders comments of “clearly he’s joking”
He’s not.
He keeps saying it, tweeting it, elaborating on the tweets, name calling anyone who is not in agreement with him over it, and has belittled people over it.
He of all people, as well as his staff, know that his words matter.
He is purposely divisive, hateful, and a liar.
He knows that what he says creates messes and has people outraged, but he does not care.
And he should.
The world is watching and he is making a mockery of the office of potus, and paving the way for China to be the leader of the world!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 15:39:27 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said:
Top Rope Report...
“Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million
Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million
Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain.
Where do you want your tax dollars to go?”
Ouch.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 7, 2018 15:54:12 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said: Top Rope Report... “Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain. Where do you want your tax dollars to go?” Ouch. ************** Not mine, but quoted from another thread.................. The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? |
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Post by ntsf on Feb 7, 2018 16:06:28 GMT
congress could stop this "parade" with a bill saying no us govt money will be spent on it..
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 7, 2018 16:09:20 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. Hasn't he asked for increased military budgets? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 16:14:10 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said: Top Rope Report... “Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain. Where do you want your tax dollars to go?” Ouch. ************** Not mine, but quoted from another thread.................. The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? The point of the comment was maybe the money can be better spent. Spent in a way to do more good than feed trump’s ego. As far as eliminating homelessness for veterans as with anything it’s more complex then the one tweet suggests. More agencies besides HUD would need to be involved as some of our homeless veterans are dealing with demons that few of us can understand. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 7, 2018 16:18:38 GMT
The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? The point of the comment was maybe the money can be better spent. Spent in a way to do more good than feed trump’s ego. As far as eliminating homelessness for veterans as with anything it’s more complex then the one tweet suggests. More agencies besides HUD would need to be involved as some of our homeless veterans are dealing with demons that few of us can understand. No - that's total complete bullshit. Don't post a tweet complete devoid from FACTS: "Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million" and pretend that it makes a point. It feeds the same ignorance and lack of critical thinking that frankly allowed Trump to be elected. We need to stop relying on memes and tweets and sensational "alternative facts" that have absolutely no basis in reality. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 17:01:55 GMT
D.C. Council hits Trump on military parade: 'Giant Tank Parade is cancelled'BY AVERY ANAPOL - 02/07/18 11:36 AM EST The District’s legislative body on Wednesday tweeted out a graphic of a “no tanks” symbol. “The DC government will open on time today. DC Public Schools will open on time today. Sadly, the Giant Tank Parade is cancelled. Permanently,” the tweet read. The DC government will open on time today.
DC Public Schools will open on time today.
Sadly, the Giant Tank Parade is cancelled. Permanently. pic.twitter.com/mQmElqs3Tt
— Council of DC (@councilofdc) February 7, 2018More t link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/372726-dc-council-hits-trump-over-military-parade-giant-tank-parade-is************ DC mayor's office: Like the wall, Trump would have to pay for military paradeBY MAX GREENWOOD - 02/07/18 10:42 AM EST A spokeswoman for D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser on Wednesday ruled out any notion of the District paying for President Trump's proposed military parade, saying that Trump would have to pay for it himself. Anu Rangappa said there has not yet been formal outreach to D.C. officials about the proposed parade. "In the meantime, we do know that, just like the wall, he will have to pay for it," she said, referring to Trump's proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico. Funding requests for that project have hit staunch opposition in Congress. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/news/372716-dc-mayors-office-like-the-wall-trump-will-have-to-pay-for-his-military-paradeHopefully, no wall, no parade.
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Post by used2scrap on Feb 7, 2018 17:03:01 GMT
And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. Hasn't he asked for increased military budgets? Not really. With sequestration still in place, the ongoing conflicts overseas, and no budget/continuing resolutions, so far the "we're rebuilding our military" is mostly smoke and mirrors. Although there was a bigger military pay increase. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 17:36:30 GMT
GOP lawmaker: I'm for a parade to celebrate bringing men and women home from 'unauthorized wars overseas'BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 02/07/18 12:26 PM EST Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) said he'd support a parade in celebration of men and women coming home from "unauthorized wars overseas." I’m all for a parade if it’s to celebrate bringing our young men and women home from these unauthorized wars overseas. — Justin Amash (@justinamash) February 7, 2018 thehill.com/homenews/house/372739-gop-lawmaker-im-for-a-parade-to-celebrate-bringing-men-and-women-home-fromAgreed! Of course dt is sending more overseas. 
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 7, 2018 18:01:19 GMT
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