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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Feb 7, 2018 18:26:29 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said: Top Rope Report... “Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain. Where do you want your tax dollars to go?” Ouch. ************** Not mine, but quoted from another thread.................. The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? They've reduced the HUD budget. And the bulk of HUD budget is used for homeownership loan programs. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 7, 2018 18:45:30 GMT
The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? They've reduced the HUD budget. And the bulk of HUD budget is used for homeownership loan programs. I hope you realized that my posting of the HUD budget was to show the vast amount of money necessary to deal with homelessness and affordable housing (and that it's still not enough to end homelessness). The idea that you're going to end veterans homelessness with $24.7 million is ludicrous. |
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Feb 7, 2018 18:58:40 GMT
They've reduced the HUD budget. And the bulk of HUD budget is used for homeownership loan programs. I hope you realized that my posting of the HUD budget was to show the vast amount of money necessary to deal with homelessness and affordable housing (and that it's still not enough to end homelessness). The idea that you're going to end veterans homelessness with $24.7 million is ludicrous. No, $24.7 mil won't end homelessness for ALL veterans but it can certainly pay to house a significant number of them. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 7, 2018 19:06:57 GMT
I hope you realized that my posting of the HUD budget was to show the vast amount of money necessary to deal with homelessness and affordable housing (and that it's still not enough to end homelessness). The idea that you're going to end veterans homelessness with $24.7 million is ludicrous. No, $24.7 mil won't end homelessness for ALL veterans but it can certainly pay to house a significant number of them. So therefore it doesn't matter if the tweet is factually inaccurate? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 19:40:09 GMT
Mattis dodges on cost of military paradeBY REBECCA KHEEL - 02/07/18 02:03 PM EST WATCH: @halliejackson asks why does Pres. Trump think it's necessary to divert military funds to a military parade? Defense Sec. Mattis: As far as the parade goes, the President's fondness for the military is reflected in his fondness for these options. pic.twitter.com/BwbyJVTjbD — MSNBC (@msnbc) February 7, 2018 Defense Secretary James Mattis on Wednesday dodged a question about why the Pentagon should spend time and money planning a military parade requested by President Trump. Asked during a White House press briefing why the Pentagon would "divert time, energy, financial resources" to fulfill Trump's request for a military parade amid defense budget woes, Mattis responded that the parade request is an example of Trump's "respect" for the military.“I think what my responsibility is to make certain I lay out the strategy and make the argument for the oversight of Congress to make the determination of fully funding us. As far as the parade goes again, the president’s respect, his fondness for the military, I think is reflected in him asking for these options,” Mattis told reporters. “I think we’re all aware in this country of the president’s affection and respect for the military. We’ve been putting together some options. We’ll send them up to the White House for decision,” he said. thehill.com/policy/defense/372767-mattis-dodges-on-cost-of-military-paradeOh why? Use the dollars for better things..... Help Veterans! Here's that "Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million " again!! Had he respect for the military he would have served!
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Post by PLurker on Feb 7, 2018 19:48:28 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. He the biggest, bestest and richest, according to him. Let him pay. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 19:50:04 GMT
Speier on Trump's desire for military parade: 'We have a Napoleon in the making'BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/06/18 09:12 PM EST Rep. Jackie Speier on President Trump's interest in a military parade: "I was stunned by it, to be quite honest. ... We have a Napoleon in the making here." t.co/FKB39bAlIt pic.twitter.com/rQQD67Pe3G — CNN (@cnn) February 7, 2018 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Tuesday ripped reports that the Pentagon is organizing a military parade at President Trump’s direction, comparing the president to French leader Napoleon Bonaparte.“I was stunned by it to be quite honest. I mean, we have a Napoleon in the making here. And I believe that we have so many issues around the world in terms of preparing for wars that are ongoing, and wars that may be in the offing because of what’s happening in North Korea, that I would say that it’s really a waste of money,” Speier told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
“I think everyone should be offended by his need to always be showing. He’s truly Napoleon-like,” she added, referring to Bonaparte, who led France's military in the French Revolution before becoming the country’s dictator. The Washington Post reported earlier Tuesday night that Trump has asked military officials to explore holding a celebration for Americans to show their appreciation for the armed forces. Officials told the Post that the concept is still in its early stages, adding that the parade could cost millions of dollars.More at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/372667-speier-on-trumps-desire-for-military-parade-we-have-a-napoleon-in-the-makingMillions...... And where does the money come from to pay for that parade? It's insanity. Didn’t you know.....he is going to have North Korea pay for it! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 20:30:02 GMT
What she said: DC mayor's office: Like the wall, Trump would have to pay for military paradeA spokeswoman for D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser on Wednesday ruled out any notion of the District paying for President Trump's proposed military parade, saying that Trump would have to pay for it himself. Anu Rangappa said there has not yet been formal outreach to D.C. officials about the proposed parade. "In the meantime, we do know that, just like the wall, he will have to pay for it," she said, referring to Trump's proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico. Funding requests for that project have hit staunch opposition in Congress. thehill.com/homenews/news/372716-dc-mayors-office-like-the-wall-trump-will-have-to-pay-for-his-military-paradeWe'll see how that goes  |
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Post by scrappyesq on Feb 7, 2018 20:35:26 GMT
And he’s specifically speaking about elected Democratic lawmakers. That’s awful. Its awful but the thing that really gets me is that not a single Republican has stood up to him and said this kind of statement is unacceptable. These people are so determined to stay in control of the House and the Senate that standing up for what's right has fallen by the wayside. I try and stay far and away from political threads but at this point I can't even understand how NO ONE in a position to do or say something is doing anything. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 20:49:59 GMT
'Fox & Friends' host: Trump's military parade 'seems like a waste of money'BY BRANDON CARTER - 02/07/18 02:53 PM EST “Fox & Friends” host Brian Kilmeade said Wednesday that President Trump’s idea for a military parade in Washington, D.C., “seems like a waste of money.” During a short panel discussion on the story, Kilmeade’s fellow host Steve Doocy said the Pentagon would “love” the parade. “There are a lot of people at the Pentagon who would love to show off all of the equipment and personnel,” Doocy said. “I don’t know,” Kilmeade replied. “It seems like a waste of money.”thehill.com/homenews/media/372778-fox-friends-host-trumps-military-parade-seems-like-a-waste-of-moneyYes!!
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Post by elaine on Feb 7, 2018 21:03:51 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said: Top Rope Report... “Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain. Where do you want your tax dollars to go?” Ouch. ************** Not mine, but quoted from another thread.................. The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? Because Ben Carson, someone with absolutely NO experience in Urban development, is in charge of HUD? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 21:17:03 GMT
And they are cutting the HUD budget!
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Post by navymomk9 on Feb 7, 2018 21:29:51 GMT
The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? Because Ben Carson, someone with absolutely NO experience in Urban development, is in charge of HUD? And Eric Trump's wedding planner.Another totally unqualified person in a government position. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2018 21:49:57 GMT
And Eric Trump's wedding planner.Another totally unqualified person in a government position. She is in charge of the NYC/New Jersey area HUD offices. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 7, 2018 21:55:44 GMT
And he’s specifically speaking about elected Democratic lawmakers. That’s awful. Its awful but the thing that really gets me is that not a single Republican has stood up to him and said this kind of statement is unacceptable. These people are so determined to stay in control of the House and the Senate that standing up for what's right has fallen by the wayside. I try and stay far and away from political threads but at this point I can't even understand how NO ONE in a position to do or say something is doing anything. That’s pretty much where I’m at. I’m baffled and I can’t resoect legislators that can’t stand up to this. |
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Post by ntsf on Feb 7, 2018 22:08:25 GMT
Sen flake denounced it
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Post by purplebee on Feb 7, 2018 23:40:18 GMT
And the depressing thing is that his base will accuse anyone speaking out against the military parade as being unpatriotic and not supporting veterans. This just may be the issue that causes me to start blocking a few of my FB friends.
I am astounded on an almost daily basis by the comments and spreading of fake news by folks I thought quite highly of prior to November of 2016. It saddens and hurts my soul.
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 8, 2018 0:38:38 GMT
Regardless of whether you like Trump or hate him, if you are an elected official and can't stand to salute a young boy who raised blankets for the homeless or a military man who saved the life of one of his colleagues or a couple who adopt the baby of a drug addicted mother, then you're an a**hole. These things are examples of Americans (not Dems, not Republicans....AMERICANS) doing good things for other Americans. To sit on your ass instead of applauding them because you hate Trump means you are an a**
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Post by hop2 on Feb 8, 2018 0:45:28 GMT
Unfortunately he’s leaving. But glad he had the integrity to donit |
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2018 0:47:53 GMT
Regardless of whether you like Trump or hate him, if you are an elected official and can't stand to salute a young boy who raised blankets for the homeless or a military man who saved the life of one of his colleagues or a couple who adopt the baby of a drug addicted mother, then you're an a**hole. These things are examples of Americans (not Dems, not Republicans....AMERICANS) doing good things for other Americans. To sit on your ass instead of applauding them because you hate Trump means you are an a** And yet, being an asshole doesn’t make you guilty of treason. As the Oval Office occupant would have cause to know. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 8, 2018 1:27:36 GMT
I don't disagree with your comment. It was a stupid thing for Trump to say. He should have just called them a**holes. And he should have called out all the AAs who sat on their asses when it was stated that unemployment among AA was at an all time low. Black live matter only when you can blast cops apparently.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 8, 2018 1:36:40 GMT
I don't disagree with your comment. It was a stupid thing for Trump to say. He should have just called them a**holes. And he should have called out all the AAs who sat on their asses when it was stated that unemployment among AA was at an all time low. Black live matter only when you can blast cops apparently. I would imagine that is because he said it's something he's very proud of, suggesting it was due to work by him and his administration, when in fact it has been on a decline for years and actually last year the rate of decline was less than recent years. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 8, 2018 1:41:12 GMT
No, I just think that no matter what the news or who was lauded, the Dems just weren't going to stand. And it's sad and yes, it's unAmerican not to stand and give kudos to a kid who helps the homeless or a military man who was injured saving the life of another military man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 1:43:04 GMT
linkGee should he have called his wife an asshole when during his bit about family and faith not only didn’r she stand when those around her did she didn’t even clap. She just sat there eyes forward with a very stony expression on her face. Very noticeable in that bright white pants suit. I say good for her. By the way, that was the first time I saw her pants suit. Nice. But oh so white that stands out in a crowd wearing darker clothes. 😀
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2018 1:48:49 GMT
No, I just think that no matter what the news or who was lauded, the Dems just weren't going to stand. And it's sad and yes, it's unAmerican not to stand and give kudos to a kid who helps the homeless or a military man who was injured saving the life of another military man. Well, far be it from me to say, "but Obama," but the Republicans taught everyone how the opposition party can take it to maximum asshole levels during the last several of Obama's SOTUs. Was that un-American, too? |
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Post by jayfab on Feb 8, 2018 1:51:25 GMT
I don't disagree with your comment. It was a stupid thing for Trump to say. He should have just called them a**holes. And he should have called out all the AAs who sat on their asses when it was stated that unemployment among AA was at an all time low. Black live matter only when you can blast cops apparently.What the hell. SaveSave |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 8, 2018 1:56:22 GMT
I don't disagree with your comment. It was a stupid thing for Trump to say. He should have just called them a**holes. And he should have called out all the AAs who sat on their asses when it was stated that unemployment among AA was at an all time low. Black live matter only when you can blast cops apparently.What the hell. SaveSaveYeah. And it's not too difficult to understand why people didn't clap for a racist who was taking undeserved credit for low unemployment rates for the AA population. |
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Post by redhead32 on Feb 8, 2018 1:58:34 GMT
Feb 7, 2018 9:55:19 GMT -5 fred said: Top Rope Report... “Estimated cost of Trump's military parade: $17.2 million Cost to provide housing for every homeless veteran in America (40,000): $24.7 million Trump wants a military parade in his honor. Veterans want to sleep out of the cold & rain. Where do you want your tax dollars to go?” Ouch. ************** Not mine, but quoted from another thread.................. The military parade is asinine - but the idea that you're going to end homelessness for 40,000 for $24.7 million is ridiculous. ETA - I just looked up HUD's budget for 2017 was over $50 billion - why the hell couldn't they find $24.7 million to end veteran homeless? Many of the conservatives that I know personally truly believe that if you are poor, it is your fault. You should be able to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, work hard, and get out of poverty. That applies to all, even military. So if there are homeless veterans, the people I know would say it is their own fault and we have no obligation to house them or provide medical care. It is so weird to me that we (all of us) can be passionate about a cause until we come face to face with the messy reality of it. Veterans are a excellent example. We love to "stand with the veterans" as long as those veterans are not too homeless ... or dirty ... or mentally ill ... or as long as we can put up facebook frames and complain about the national anthem without getting our hands dirty. I'm no saint. I do this too, but I'm becoming more and more aware of the disconnect between my "beliefs" and my actions. |
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Post by jayfab on Feb 8, 2018 1:59:53 GMT
No, I just think that no matter what the news or who was lauded, the Dems just weren't going to stand. And it's sad and yes, it's unAmerican not to stand and give kudos to a kid who helps the homeless or a military man who was injured saving the life of another military man. Well, far be it from me to say, "but Obama," but the Republicans taught everyone how the opposition party can take it to maximum asshole levels during the last several of Obama's SOTUs. Was that un-American, too? Exactly, I don't care what 45 was saying, after EIGHT YEARS if disrespect towards the former president the repubs have the gall to call someone else out for acting disrespectfully? Absolute bullcrap. SaveSave |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 8, 2018 2:00:37 GMT
as long as those veterans are too homeless ... or dirty ... or mentally ill ... I agree with you, but I think you mean "are NOT" instead of "are," right?? |
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