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Post by megop on Feb 22, 2018 4:17:10 GMT
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Post by busy on Feb 22, 2018 4:32:37 GMT
I have no problem with having notes while speaking, even at something like this. But when you need one of your talking points to remind you to act like a normal, decent human with empathy, it’s troublesome. That should be a given.
And the 45 embroidered on his cuff makes me stabby.
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Post by leeny on Feb 22, 2018 4:33:55 GMT
That cannot be real! What a joke.
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Post by megop on Feb 22, 2018 4:38:14 GMT
Oh it is real for sure.
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 22, 2018 4:40:35 GMT
My husband said Trump should have 'idiot' on his other cuff.
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Post by LeaP on Feb 22, 2018 5:49:56 GMT
"I hear you" ...
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Post by mom2samlibby on Feb 22, 2018 5:57:50 GMT
I'm not seeing a problem. I think it's good he wrote talking points down. I'm sure he knew it was going to be a very emotional meeting. I write talking points for myself when I'm going into an emotional situation, so I don't see the issue.
Let's just be happy that he's listening to people and trying to find a solution.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 22, 2018 6:06:01 GMT
I'm the furthest thing from a Trump supporter that lives, but I'm fine with his notes. If he needs reminding to use kind words and empathic phrases, I'm good with that. Even if it doesn't really help, I wouldn't want some horrible sound bite from Trump playing in the participants minds. I'd rather that he stick to his notes than try to wing it, which often leads to foolish statements.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 22, 2018 6:31:07 GMT
I get why he has it and I agree I would rather him read from cards then talk off the top of his head, but it is incredibly embarrassing, pitiful and just sad that the freaking POTUS needs cards with such basic notes.
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Post by nlwilkins on Feb 22, 2018 6:32:21 GMT
No problem with it here. I have to give myself little talks before leaving the car - reminding myself to listen and not talk so much. Things that "normal" people take for granted. I am just a talker and have to remember to cut back and listen and ask questions that I really want to know the answers to. Not much different from what he has on his notes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 6:41:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 8:49:14 GMT
I'm not seeing a problem. I think it's good he wrote talking points down. I'm sure he knew it was going to be a very emotional meeting. I write talking points for myself when I'm going into an emotional situation, so I don't see the issue. Let's just be happy that he's listening to people and trying to find a solution. I don't see the issue either. I also don't get the problem with the 45 embroidered on his cuff. He's the 45th president, how is it a problem?
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Post by inkedup on Feb 22, 2018 9:32:20 GMT
I'd rather he use talking points and notes than go completely unscripted and off the cuff.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2018 9:49:39 GMT
I'd rather he use talking points and notes than go completely unscripted and off the cuff. It’s probably best, just sad that someone talking to survivors of such an event would need to remind themselves/be reminded to listen...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 9:58:15 GMT
I don't have a problem with anyone having bullet points written down when they are in a discussion. What I do have a problem with in trying to understand that anyone,least of all a father and the President/Leader of any country would need the one that reminds him or her to " hear you"
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Post by hannahruth on Feb 22, 2018 10:37:05 GMT
Let's just be happy that he's listening to people and trying to find a solution. I would not have thought that arming teachers is a very good solution!
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 22, 2018 10:43:47 GMT
On the bright side, at least he didn’t write notes on his hand. 😉
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 22, 2018 11:25:56 GMT
I'm not seeing a problem. I think it's good he wrote talking points down. I'm sure he knew it was going to be a very emotional meeting. I write talking points for myself when I'm going into an emotional situation, so I don't see the issue. Let's just be happy that he's listening to people and trying to find a solution. I don't see the issue either. I also don't get the problem with the 45 embroidered on his cuff. He's the 45th president, how is it a problem? It’s not a problem, nor is it all that shocking, considering who he is. Just very vain of him.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 22, 2018 12:12:03 GMT
I don't see the issue either. I also don't get the problem with the 45 embroidered on his cuff. He's the 45th president, how is it a problem? It’s not a problem, nor is it all that shocking, considering who he is. Just very vain of him. I agree. No one said it’s a problem, many just find it incredible that a person in his position would have to be reminded to have empathy. Seeing that would/May make those wonder about anything he said being sincere. It’s not a surprise, it just confirms what most already see about him—that he is insincere, unconcerned, and self interested. The 45 on his cuffs, meh—not a big deal for me, it’s just another glimpse of his vanity and self importance. We already know that about him.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 22, 2018 12:23:56 GMT
No problem with it here. I have to give myself little talks before leaving the car - reminding myself to listen and not talk so much. Things that "normal" people take for granted. I am just a talker and have to remember to cut back and listen and ask questions that I really want to know the answers to. Not much different from what he has on his notes. Thank you for saying that. I'm not much of a talker. At all. If I were to speak before people in this emotionally charged situation, I'd need to even put my name on the card to remember to say it.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 22, 2018 12:26:39 GMT
On the bright side, at least he didn’t write notes on his hand. 😉
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Post by carhoch on Feb 22, 2018 13:19:45 GMT
He is a sociopath he has no empathy he cannot relate to those people
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Post by rickmer on Feb 22, 2018 13:27:09 GMT
Let's just be happy that he's listening to people and trying to find a solution. i would be happy... if i actually believed that. i see it as saving face and buying time til something else happens to distract people from this (another) "blip" that doesn't suit his narrative.
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Post by janeliz on Feb 22, 2018 13:29:46 GMT
He’s the President of the United States. He was a prominent businessman for decades. He says he went to all the “best schools” and knows all the “best words”. I personally don’t think it’s out of line to expect this man to be able to speak extemporaneously at a time like this.
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Post by kelly8875 on Feb 22, 2018 13:42:40 GMT
No problem with it here. I have to give myself little talks before leaving the car - reminding myself to listen and not talk so much. Things that "normal" people take for granted. I am just a talker and have to remember to cut back and listen and ask questions that I really want to know the answers to. Not much different from what he has on his notes. Thank you for saying that. I'm not much of a talker. At all. If I were to speak before people in this emotionally charged situation, I'd need to even put my name on the card to remember to say it. Emotionally charged conversations are the worst. I’ve been in some big ones, and have left the conversation mad at myself for either getting too worked up, or not saying the right things. Wishing I would have had notes to stay on task. And these conversations weren’t about something so severe as what Trump was experiencing. Not everyone has the ability to stay calm cool and collected as easily as others. As far as the 45 on his sleeve, who cares? Shouldn’t he be proud of his position? To me, it’s the same as me wearing a company logo shirt around town, or my friend who’s a teacher wearing a “I teach” shirt, or “worlds greatest nurse”
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Post by eleezybeth on Feb 22, 2018 14:12:06 GMT
I don't care if he has notes. I care that he has notes reminding him to be empathetic. That's just sad to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 14:18:05 GMT
I am no Trump supporter, but having notes in his case is a good thing. I won’t fault him for that, in fact I think people need to pick the big issues to worry about. By doing so your argument against him becomes stronger and not diluted with all the little issues.
The 45 is just nuts but again, I just can’t sweat the small stuff about him. There are too many big issues to worry about.
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Post by PeachStatePea on Feb 22, 2018 15:41:42 GMT
I have no problem with the notes. Trump has gotten himself in trouble by saying things off the top of his head in the past. Some reminders of what to say are probably helpful.
I have no problem with the 45 either. Sure, he's an egomaniac but all presidents are. You don't get to be leader of the free world, defeating all others, without being one.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 22, 2018 15:51:29 GMT
I have no problem with the notes. Trump has gotten himself in trouble by saying things off the top of his head in the past. Some reminders of what to say are probably helpful. I have no problem with the 45 either. Sure, he's an egomaniac but all presidents are. You don't get to be leader of the free world, defeating all others, without being one. Really, you think all the presidents are egomaniacs? I certainly didn’t get that at all from Obama, Bush Jr or Senior or Reagan. I think Clinton was arrogant, but I don’t think I would classify him as an egomaniac. Those are all the presidents since I was a child and I think Trump is in a class all by himself on being an egomaniac. I prefer presidents who are not self serving and self absorbed, after all their job is to serve the people.
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Post by gar on Feb 22, 2018 16:02:55 GMT
I have no problem with the notes. Trump has gotten himself in trouble by saying things off the top of his head in the past. Some reminders of what to say are probably helpful. I have no problem with the 45 either. Sure, he's an egomaniac but all presidents are. You don't get to be leader of the free world, defeating all others, without being one. Defeating all others?? Maybe others were more interested in promoting world peace. Don’t you think this Leader of the Free World thing is a bit outdated now anyway...
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