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Post by freecharlie on Mar 28, 2018 17:49:30 GMT
Grew up in working class Midwest, never found Roseanne funny, so don’t plan to watch this version either. The fact that I find her politics distasteful doesn’t weigh into it. I do distinctly recall that the politics of the first version of the show were often considered too liberal by the staunch conservatives in my family, so I find it funny that she’s now a Trump supporter. Part of me wonders if she’s really all about just getting attention. I think it pushes all the buttons and is doing that now. A boy dressing as a girl, interracial couples, health care and where is it...i think the show did a good job of accepting and making fun of both sides of the arguments.
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Post by burningfeather on Mar 28, 2018 17:59:25 GMT
You can keep saying it Elaine, but it doesn't make it true. I'm referring to what YOU said. I’m not trying to shut it down in any way I asked what you think of devices that do shut down shows with an opposite view. Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread. YOU are the one that brought up shutting down a television show and also brought up Virginia, not me. I'm referring to your comment that you aren't trying to shut it (the show) down in any way. But keep insisting that you know my intentions. Believe me, if I wanted to slam someone, I'm perfectly capable of doing a much better job at it.
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Post by elaine on Mar 28, 2018 18:10:22 GMT
You can keep saying it Elaine, but it doesn't make it true. I'm referring to what YOU said. I’m not trying to shut it down in any way I asked what you think of devices that do shut down shows with an opposite view. Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread. YOU are the one that brought up shutting down a television show and also brought up Virginia, not me. I'm referring to your comment that you aren't trying to shut it (the show) down in any way. But keep insisting that you know my intentions. Believe me, if I wanted to slam someone, I'm perfectly capable of doing a much better job at it. So, by saying I wasn’t trying to shut the show down in any way means that I support a zapper and that I am trying to shut down the show? In what bizzaro world? You can deny bringing Virginia into this all you want, but it doesn’t make it true either. I challenge you to find one post, just one post, where I talked about the zapper and/or supported it. Just one. The zapper has everything to do with Virginia and nothing to do with me. Nothing. If you think that you are doing a good job communicating capably on this thread, more power to you. Maybe by Trump standards of communication...
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 28, 2018 18:12:25 GMT
You can keep saying it Elaine, but it doesn't make it true. I'm referring to what YOU said. I’m not trying to shut it down in any way I asked what you think of devices that do shut down shows with an opposite view. Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread. YOU are the one that brought up shutting down a television show and also brought up Virginia, not me. I'm referring to your comment that you aren't trying to shut it (the show) down in any way. But keep insisting that you know my intentions. Believe me, if I wanted to slam someone, I'm perfectly capable of doing a much better job at it. LOL, you really should just stop. The gymnastics involved in this argument must be painful.
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Post by burningfeather on Mar 28, 2018 18:23:16 GMT
Jesus Christ Elaine - I didn't say you had mentioned it in a thread - I asked you what you thought of it.
The fact that you say I "usually own it" should give you pause that maybe there's nothing to own here and that I meant exactly what I said.
Either way - I'm out. It was a 60 minute show of which I watched about 20, so I'm not going to spend more time on it. Have a great day.
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Post by annabella on Mar 28, 2018 18:30:11 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 28, 2018 18:33:20 GMT
Still a better show than Roseanne.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 18:35:28 GMT
Pass it over. I didn't watch because I'm not a sitcom person. I didn't watch because I'm not a Rosanne fan (that has nothing to do with her politics just so we're clear). I didn't watch because I rarely watch anything on ABC these days. But this thread had been entertaining.
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Post by busy on Mar 28, 2018 18:56:32 GMT
I brought a product and a recent topic up for discussion Elaine. You brought a person into it. And way not to answer the question. And what's with all the Bless Your Heart bullshit going on. You all think you are clever. You aren't. Listen, we don't agree on much of anything politically but I have always liked you. But this is shit and you know it. You knew exactly who you were bringing up, it was intentional, and I'm really fucking disappointed to see you act like that.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Mar 28, 2018 19:00:54 GMT
Only here would saying you have a weekend property be the blue-collar equivalent to saying you have black friends but watching a stupid-assed sitcom from the comfort of your own living room? Hey, that gives you real insight into middle America. JFC, this place never disappoints. . .
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 28, 2018 19:05:20 GMT
Anybody listen to “Keep It” or follow Ira Madison on the tweets?
He says it really well in this thread:
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Post by melanell on Mar 28, 2018 19:18:38 GMT
You can keep saying it Elaine, but it doesn't make it true. I'm referring to what YOU said. I asked what you think of devices that do shut down shows with an opposite view. Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread. YOU are the one that brought up shutting down a television show and also brought up Virginia, not me. I'm referring to your comment that you aren't trying to shut it (the show) down in any way. But keep insisting that you know my intentions. Believe me, if I wanted to slam someone, I'm perfectly capable of doing a much better job at it. LOL, you really should just stop. The gymnastics involved in this argument must be painful. The whole conversation is painful for the rest of us. Well, except for those who find it entertaining, I guess. (Yeah, I know....I don't have to read it..and that's why I've been mostly skimming over it towards the end, but this "painful" part jumped out at me.)
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 28, 2018 19:21:54 GMT
I brought a product and a recent topic up for discussion Elaine. You brought a person into it. And way not to answer the question. And what's with all the Bless Your Heart bullshit going on. You all think you are clever. You aren't. Listen, we don't agree on much of anything politically but I have always liked you. But this is shit and you know it. You knew exactly who you were bringing up, it was intentional, and I'm really fucking disappointed to see you act like that. I don't know burning feathers motivation, but I could not have told you before someone brought Virginia up that she was the one who did the channel changing. I remember the thread vaguely, but not who started it. Just saying maybe the motivation or whatever being assigned isn't true. (In fact when bf brought it up in reference to the other pea, I assumed it was that pea who had changed the channel).
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Post by pierogi on Mar 28, 2018 19:23:13 GMT
Anybody listen to “Keep It” or follow Ira Madison on the tweets? He says it really well in this thread: Holy shit! I did not know Roseanne believed the Parkland Massacre was fake and that the survivors are crisis actors.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 28, 2018 19:26:20 GMT
Anybody listen to “Keep It” or follow Ira Madison on the tweets? He says it really well in this thread: Holy shit! I did not know Roseanne believed the Parkland Massacre was fake and that the survivors are crisis actors. I'm tweeting illiterate. Can you post her tweet? I don't know how to follow conversations on Twitter.
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Post by likescarrots on Mar 28, 2018 19:27:45 GMT
Grew up in working class Midwest, never found Roseanne funny, so don’t plan to watch this version either. The fact that I find her politics distasteful doesn’t weigh into it. I do distinctly recall that the politics of the first version of the show were often considered too liberal by the staunch conservatives in my family, so I find it funny that she’s now a Trump supporter. Part of me wonders if she’s really all about just getting attention. that's interesting, I was a huge fan of the show (watching for a second time as reruns) in my early 20s. I've always been very liberal and also felt most of the show and themes were pretty liberal, so I was pretty surprised that both the real life Roseanne and the character are trump supporters. Admittedly I was pretty disappointed by that, but I agree with another poster, they seemed to pull out the ridiculous aspects of both sides. Over all I liked the show and i'll continue to watch. One thing I had a question about was does Becky have kids of her own?
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Post by pierogi on Mar 28, 2018 19:28:40 GMT
I'm tweeting illiterate. Can you post her tweet? I don't know how to follow conversations on Twitter. Can you see the tweet? If you click on it, it opens a window to the Twitter post, and you can follow his thread.
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Post by sideways on Mar 28, 2018 19:29:19 GMT
Listen, we don't agree on much of anything politically but I have always liked you. But this is shit and you know it. You knew exactly who you were bringing up, it was intentional, and I'm really fucking disappointed to see you act like that. I don't know burning feathers motivation, but I could not have told you before someone brought Virginia up that she was the one who did the channel changing. I remember the thread vaguely, but not who started it. Just saying maybe the motivation or whatever being assigned isn't true. (In fact when bf brought it up in reference to the other pea, I assumed it was that pea who had changed the channel). I’m not a big poster here on this board, but I was part of the old board a long time (10+ years). BF had been around a long time by the time I joined, as had Virginia. There’s no way in hell she didn’t remember it was Virginia who posted about the channel changing. So now she brings it up when Virginia can’t respond to her. How very convenient. And gross.
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Post by busy on Mar 28, 2018 19:31:55 GMT
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Post by pierogi on Mar 28, 2018 19:32:45 GMT
I don't know burning feathers motivation, but I could not have told you before someone brought Virginia up that she was the one who did the channel changing. I remember the thread vaguely, but not who started it. Just saying maybe the motivation or whatever being assigned isn't true. (In fact when bf brought it up in reference to the other pea, I assumed it was that pea who had changed the channel). I’m not a big poster here on this board, but I was part of the old board a long time (10+ years). BF had been around a long time by the time I joined, as had Virginia. There’s no way in hell she didn’t remember it was Virginia who posted about the channel changing. So now she brings it up when Virginia can’t respond to her. How very convenient. And gross. The thread was even quoted humorously in Virginia's condolence thread. This was not an innocent gaffe.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 28, 2018 19:33:17 GMT
Holy shit! I did not know Roseanne believed the Parkland Massacre was fake and that the survivors are crisis actors. Upthread, I said I googled RB and, based on what I learned, put her in my Mel Gibson/Tom Cruise/Roman Polanski boycott column. From this thread, I'd inferred she'd simply done a political aboutface, but the reality is she's turned into a hate-spewing conspiracy theory obsessive. Think 4Chan. Her real life political posturing is radically different than a characterization of a typical middle American jobless Trump voter. (I won't belabor it here, but the internet is your oyster ...)
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Post by wholarmor on Mar 28, 2018 19:57:52 GMT
I watched the reboot, and I'm a left leaner who thinks that Rosanne Barr is not an admirable person. I like Sarah Gilbert, and she was in charge of the reboot, so I'm cool with watching for her. I don't judge those who don't like the show because of Roseanne and her beliefs, though.
I thought they did a good job with the political aspect, and I don't think it's supposed to be something they talk about all the time- though, they are known for talking about life issues, so I wouldn't be surprised if it crops up now and then.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Mar 28, 2018 20:08:40 GMT
Bringing up the remote to turn off Fox News after the passing of Virginia is tacky and uncouth. Holy shit, just wow.
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Post by burningfeather on Mar 28, 2018 20:14:44 GMT
I’m not a big poster here on this board, but I was part of the old board a long time (10+ years). BF had been around a long time by the time I joined, as had Virginia. There’s no way in hell she didn’t remember it was Virginia who posted about the channel changing. So now she brings it up when Virginia can’t respond to her. How very convenient. And gross. The thread was even quoted humorously in Virginia's condolence thread. This was not an innocent gaffe. Okay - let's get it straight. I never said that I didn't remember that Virginia said it. What I said was: Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread.The Zapper thread is not one I lost sleep over, put on a spreadsheet, or had in my current memory until someone brought it up in that condolence thread. Because of THAT and because Elaine mentioned (not) shutting down a show she didn't agree with, it seemed topical to me. I brought it up because of that. Had someone else not mentioned it recently, it probably wouldn't have even triggered the memory of that thread. I didn't bring it up to be "gross" because frankly I don't believe that we can never discuss anything that someone who isn't with us any longer ever discussed, no matter how controversial. That thread is part of Two Peas history and it seemed topical to me to this conversation. I'm sorry it was taken the wrong way but I am not sorry for bringing it up as a topic to discuss on a thread that was about the political differences in viewing a television show and many mentioned not watching a show because of politics. And you all know damn well that if Virginia was in a restaurant and had her zapper and Roseanne was on, she would shut it off. And she would defend it instead of avoiding answering the question such as has been done on this thread.
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Post by annaintx on Mar 28, 2018 20:29:44 GMT
WTH? Into drama and over-blowing things much? What I choose to watch on television and support financially, because viewing numbers impact advertising dollars, is NOT a reflection of intolerance. I’m not telling people not to watch, I’m not fighting to get it pulled off the air, I’m not trying to shut it down in any way and am glad that there are people who do enjoy it. This thread was asking us whether or not we were watching and I purposefully kept my responses focused on ME and why I wasn’t watching. But you go on with your bad self and try to make my response into something it wasn’t. It certainly had nothing to do with intolerance - I’m sorry that was lost on you. When you try to make what sitcoms someone watches on television a reflection of the way they treat others, you have overreached in a colossal way. So how do you feel about people using zapper type products to change or shut down channels in restaurants and airports because they don't politically agree with what is being shown? Because that sounds like intolerance to me.There were plenty of comments on this very thread that said they wouldn't watch it because of politics and my thought was that those who don't want to learn from the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat it. Roseanne (the show) may not be your life experience, but I promise you that it's a good representation of middle or rural America and love it or hate it, there will probably be a pretty good representation about how and why the election was won or lost. WTH is wrong with you? Seriously? !!?!?!
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 28, 2018 20:30:47 GMT
The thread was even quoted humorously in Virginia's condolence thread. This was not an innocent gaffe. Okay - let's get it straight. I never said that I didn't remember that Virginia said it. What I said was: Yes, Virginia did it although I had completely forgotten it except that someone brought it up as a "funny" memory recently. I don't/didn't think it's funny regardless of who does it although I didn't express that view on this thread.The Zapper thread is not one I lost sleep over, put on a spreadsheet, or had in my current memory until someone brought it up in that condolence thread. Because of THAT and because Elaine mentioned (not) shutting down a show she didn't agree with, it seemed topical to me. I brought it up because of that. Had someone else not mentioned it recently, it probably wouldn't have even triggered the memory of that thread. I didn't bring it up to be "gross" because frankly I don't believe that we can never discuss anything that someone who isn't with us any longer ever discussed, no matter how controversial. That thread is part of Two Peas history and it seemed topical to me to this conversation. I'm sorry it was taken the wrong way but I am not sorry for bringing it up as a topic to discuss on a thread that was about the political differences in viewing a television show and many mentioned not watching a show because of politics. And you all know damn well that if Virginia was in a restaurant and had her zapper and Roseanne was on, she would shut it off. And she would defend it instead of avoiding answering the question such as has been done on this thread. Please don’t ever presume to speak to what Virginia would or would not do. She deserves better than your conjecture. You showed your whole ass, so you can just stop now.
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Post by Heathen on Mar 28, 2018 20:32:31 GMT
And you all know damn well that if Virginia was in a restaurant and had her zapper and Roseanne was on, she would shut it off. And she would defend it instead of avoiding answering the question such as has been done on this thread. There is no way to know what Virginia would have thought or did. She might have found the show pretty funny.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Mar 28, 2018 20:34:45 GMT
Grew up in working class Midwest, never found Roseanne funny, so don’t plan to watch this version either. The fact that I find her politics distasteful doesn’t weigh into it. I do distinctly recall that the politics of the first version of the show were often considered too liberal by the staunch conservatives in my family, so I find it funny that she’s now a Trump supporter. Part of me wonders if she’s really all about just getting attention. I think it pushes all the buttons and is doing that now. A boy dressing as a girl, interracial couples, health care and where is it...i think the show did a good job of accepting and making fun of both sides of the arguments. It really did a decent job for a sitcom of touching on both sides of the current political issues. Plus they were making fun of themselves as well. And I’m not gonna lie. I liked Dan as a Dad back when it originally aired and I still do. He reminded me of my family...sarcastic, fun, sometimes obnoxious,definitely had disagreements, but would do anything for you in a heartbeat.
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Post by River on Mar 28, 2018 20:35:18 GMT
I wasn't a big Roseanne TV show fan and would only watch episodes on occasion. I watched it just enough to know all the characters though. I thoroughly enjoyed the reboot last night and we will continue to watch.
Politics never plays a role in what I watch, read, listen too. Reading through this thread just makes me shake my head. It surprises me just how many don't care to watch an actor/actress, TV show or movie because of either their (actor/actresses) personal politics or the politics portrayed in the show/movie. Oh well, guess I can add that to what I've learned at the Peas pod.
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 28, 2018 20:37:50 GMT
I wasn't a big Roseanne TV show fan and would only watch episodes on occasion. I watched it just enough to know all the characters though. I thoroughly enjoyed the reboot last night and we will continue to watch. Politics never plays a role in what I watch, read, listen too. Reading through this thread just makes me shake my head. It surprises me just how many don't care to watch an actor/actress, TV show or movie because of either their (actor/actresses) personal politics or the politics portrayed in the show/movie. Oh well, guess I can add that to what I've learned at the Peas pod. I mean, for the most part, I try not to pay too much attention to the personal politics or drama of an artist, but there are some for whom a line has been crossed that I can’t abide. Woody Allen. Mel Gibson. And, for me, Roseanne. I just don’t want to give them my money and time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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