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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 2:27:05 GMT
The definition of sexual orientation and being openly the opposite you were born. Bullying because you are different. Interesting choice of subject to have on the show considering her guy in the top job is the biggest bully of them all and tried to pass a law to boot transgender people out of the military. "be who you are/don't let anyone bully you because you are different...BUT...I'm gonna vote for the guy who won't let you use a certain toilet and will kick you out of your career because of that difference" I wonder how she reconciles those things in her head? Maybe the same way my gay/lesbian friends who voted for Trump do. And many other Americans...by being pumped for the things he does right and fighting for what he does wrong. And my friends have done this regardless who is in office. It is NOT all black and white. You do realize that many do not agree with every single thing a president does right?!?! I didnt agree with everything Clinton did. I didnt agree with everything Bush jr did. Or Barack.
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Post by melanell on Mar 29, 2018 2:32:21 GMT
I am disappointed that this turned into a political thread Me too...I really wish admin would make it so the only one who can mark it that way is the OP. Thanks to all who fricking derailed this thread...Nice. Many times a thread doesn't start as political, but later turns that way. To me it makes sense that others can mark it as political when they see it has gone in that direction because it could be hours or days before the OP comes back to it, and sometimes the OP never comes back to it. And if left unmarked people won't know they are about to walk into a political kerfuffle between a few Peas. If marked, they can at least have some advance warning that it won't just be about 2 Beckys or Dan not being dead or Sara's hair for the entire thread.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 29, 2018 2:38:31 GMT
I enjoyed it and if it gets too political I will stop watching but I enjoyed the first two episodes. I thought it poked fun at both sides but I will reserve judgement and if it gets ugly will stop watching. If I paid too much attention to everyone's politics I doubt there would be movies or any shows I would watch but I don't pay that much attention. Rosanne turned a lot of people off with her "singing" the national anthem at a Padres game that was beyond disrespectful but figure that was 20+ years ago and if the show is funny and I enjoy it I will watch if not there are tons of other shows to watch.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 29, 2018 3:04:54 GMT
You do realize that many do not agree with every single thing a president does right?!?! No, really?? I wasn't aware of that at all thanks for enlightening me... You don't seem to understand that if you are going to claim to support the LGBTQI community then voting for Trump AND therefore Pence who has a horrible reputation with regard to his opinions of that community...that's not "every little thing", neither is booting transgender people out of their careers serving their country. Those are pretty big ticket items, and if you feel strongly about those then I don't understand how in all good conscience you could vote for those two. Considering Sandra Bernhard HATES Trump and tweeted "if you voted for Trump tell me because we’re done” It seems many of Roseanne's gay friends may have a problem with her Trump support, again, that seems like a big deal to me, so that's why I'm wondering how she reconciles those two opposing things in her own head. This isn't a case of "oh I don't agree with that his opinion on climate change" this is a deeply personal and very hot button topic for many people. To pretend to be supporting gender creative kids on the show and then doing the opposite of supporting that in your personal political choices seems somewhat "interesting" to me. Somewhere there's hypocrisy. But then I guess real life Roseanne always was a lose cannon who rarely made a lot of sense.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 29, 2018 3:08:20 GMT
I had planned to, but I'm sick. I hate that she's a TTrump's supporter, but by the same token, I think we do need to understand what drew people to him if we stand a chance of fixing the mess he's created. Newsflash: It’s racism. I don't think it's that simple. I'm sure it's racism for some. It isn't for everybody.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 3:27:08 GMT
Who is Jerry and how did Roseanne and Dan go from having 3 kids to mentioning having 4 kids?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 3:28:32 GMT
The reboot is only for 8 or 9 episodes. David is only in 1 episode due to his commitment to Big Bang Theory. Did you know Johnny Galecki (David) is the highest paid actor on TV? Hasn’t done too bad for himself... That makes me really happy. I'm so glad it's not some testosterone-overdrive 6'2" typical blond-haired blue-eyed dude. Johnny is shorter than many male actors, and not "dreamboat" handsome. But his characters are totally my type - smart, witty, kind, loving. I married someone who's very like Johnny. Yeay nerdy men!
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Post by compeateropeator on Mar 29, 2018 3:30:38 GMT
Who is Jerry and how did Roseanne and Dan go from having 3 kids to mentioning having 4 kids? They had another kid on the original series. It was a surprise pregnancy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 3:37:49 GMT
Who is Jerry and how did Roseanne and Dan go from having 3 kids to mentioning having 4 kids? They had another kid on the original series. It was a surprise pregnancy. Oh. I guess besides Dan's death and the lottery, that's what I missed after I stopped watching.
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Post by gina on Mar 29, 2018 3:39:56 GMT
I enjoyed it and have set my DVR to record the series. Thought it was pretty funny. The 2nd episode/half hour was funnier than the first. Loved that they had the same opening and theme song. Felt like we were re-visiting old friends. Jackie is the FUNNIEST!!!
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 29, 2018 4:23:14 GMT
You do realize that many do not agree with every single thing a president does right?!?! No, really?? I wasn't aware of that at all thanks for enlightening me... You don't seem to understand that if you are going to claim to support the LGBTQI community then voting for Trump AND therefore Pence who has a horrible reputation with regard to his opinions of that community...that's not "every little thing", neither is booting transgender people out of their careers serving their country. Those are pretty big ticket items, and if you feel strongly about those then I don't understand how in all good conscience you could vote for those two. Considering Sandra Bernhard HATES Trump and tweeted "if you voted for Trump tell me because we’re done” It seems many of Roseanne's gay friends may have a problem with her Trump support, again, that seems like a big deal to me, so that's why I'm wondering how she reconciles those two opposing things in her own head. This isn't a case of "oh I don't agree with that his opinion on climate change" this is a deeply personal and very hot button topic for many people. To pretend to be supporting gender creative kids on the show and then doing the opposite of supporting that in your personal political choices seems somewhat "interesting" to me. Somewhere there's hypocrisy. But then I guess real life Roseanne always was a lose cannon who rarely made a lot of sense. some people aren't one issue voters. Some have to decide which way they balance out. Lots of people have issues with different things a president or governor that they support does, but agrees with the overall platform or just really disagrees with something on the other side.
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Post by wholarmor on Mar 29, 2018 5:41:24 GMT
lots of conservatives don't watch PBS because they say it has liberal leanings. And don't even get me started on what they say about "The View" Don't you just know that if they had a clicker they would turn off the View... I’m not conservative but I think I’d probably turn off The View, too. LOL Guilty pleasure watcher, but I can't stand the conservative they have on the View- she's so terribly annoying, and I shouldn't watch sometimes because she makes my blood pressure go up, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 13:12:35 GMT
I love many of the cast members esp Gilbert & Metcalf, but I can't get behind anyone who thinks this is in any way funny. Context: www.salon.com/2016/02/18/roseanne_barrs_bizarre_evolution_from_national_comic_sensation_to_racist_twitter_troll_partner/Her Jewish upbringing was influenced by her devoutly Orthodox Jewish maternal grandmother.[7] Barr's parents kept their Jewish heritage secret from their neighbors and were partially involved in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.[7] Barr has stated, "Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning I was a Jew; Sunday afternoon, Tuesday afternoon, and Wednesday afternoon we were Mormons".[8] -- Wikipedia
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Post by pyccku on Mar 29, 2018 18:51:06 GMT
I was just coming to post the same thing. Maybe it's funny, maybe it isn't. But someone who thinks the Holocaust is something to joke about is in no way appealing to me.
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Post by imsirius on Mar 29, 2018 18:51:32 GMT
Did they not say that Darlene's husband had died? That would be David, right? No Becky’s husband was Mark. Actor died of an OD nothing was said about David. I thought I read somewhere that Johnny Galecki (?) is on at some point. Johnny can't get time off from BBT to tape for Roseanne. The producers gave him one episode with Roseanne.
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Post by Montannie on Mar 29, 2018 19:06:09 GMT
I was just coming to post the same thing. Maybe it's funny, maybe it isn't. But someone who thinks the Holocaust is something to joke about is in no way appealing to me. Horrifying. Like the comic holding the fake head of trump.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 29, 2018 19:06:38 GMT
I love many of the cast members esp Gilbert & Metcalf, but I can't get behind anyone who thinks this is in any way funny. Context: www.salon.com/2016/02/18/roseanne_barrs_bizarre_evolution_from_national_comic_sensation_to_racist_twitter_troll_partner/Her Jewish upbringing was influenced by her devoutly Orthodox Jewish maternal grandmother.[7] Barr's parents kept their Jewish heritage secret from their neighbors and were partially involved in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.[7] Barr has stated, "Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning I was a Jew; Sunday afternoon, Tuesday afternoon, and Wednesday afternoon we were Mormons".[8] -- Wikipedia what the absolute fuck was she thinking? I literally cannot even imagine what the Hell went through her head or the magazine/site that did the picture. "Just wanted to see if jokes about the Holocaust were still taboo." Come the f on. They should remain taboo for all of history. I don't care how far from the time you get.
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Post by jayfab on Mar 29, 2018 19:13:32 GMT
I was just coming to post the same thing. Maybe it's funny, maybe it isn't. But someone who thinks the Holocaust is something to joke about is in no way appealing to me. Holee frickin shit. She is more disgusting than I ever thought. This really puts her in a different light in my mind. I have a hard time separating the actor from the show with something like this. SaveSave
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Post by kristi521 on Mar 29, 2018 19:16:46 GMT
Me too! I think her hair is beautiful. It is very much how her hair was on the show and how she wears it IRL. On a completely different note about the show discussion, it's disappointing to hear that people won't watch it because she is a Trump supporter. I can only assume that puts you as a democrat, a side that seems to preach tolerance. It is so unfortunate tolerance only seems to apply when it is something you agree with. We all have a wide variety of opinions, I can't imagine that everyone else that you watch on TV shares the exact same opinions as (general) you. The show is for entertainment purposes only. Plenty of other shows use the show as a platform for their political agenda... WTH? Into drama and over-blowing things much? What I choose to watch on television and support financially, because viewing numbers impact advertising dollars, is NOT a reflection of intolerance. I’m not telling people not to watch, I’m not fighting to get it pulled off the air, I’m not trying to shut it down in any way and am glad that there are people who do enjoy it. This thread was asking us whether or not we were watching and I purposefully kept my responses focused on ME and why I wasn’t watching. But you go on with your bad self and try to make my response into something it wasn’t. It certainly had nothing to do with intolerance - I’m sorry that was lost on you. When you try to make what sitcoms someone watches on television a reflection of the way they treat others, you have overreached in a colossal way. Okay then. I didn't call you or anyone else specifically out. That was my feeling on what I was reading from some general feelings on the thread. I don't think I made a huge stink about anything, looking to cause drama, etc. but if you feel or anyone else feel that I did, my apologies, it wasn't meant in that way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:21:27 GMT
I was just coming to post the same thing. Maybe it's funny, maybe it isn't. But someone who thinks the Holocaust is something to joke about is in no way appealing to me. It's not in any way funny.
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Post by shescrafty on Mar 29, 2018 19:24:21 GMT
I was just coming to post the same thing. Maybe it's funny, maybe it isn't. But someone who thinks the Holocaust is something to joke about is in no way appealing to me. Horrifying. Like the comic holding the fake head of trump. Except Trump is very much alive and no murder and genocide was committed.
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Post by carhoch on Mar 29, 2018 19:24:23 GMT
We’ll see how long the show stays on after those horrible pictures came out .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:27:15 GMT
So how do you feel about people using zapper type products to change or shut down channels in restaurants and airports because they don't politically agree with what is being shown? Because that sounds like intolerance to me. There were plenty of comments on this very thread that said they wouldn't watch it because of politics and my thought was that those who don't want to learn from the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat it. Roseanne (the show) may not be your life experience, but I promise you that it's a good representation of middle or rural America and love it or hate it, there will probably be a pretty good representation about how and why the election was won or lost. Man, the drama is high today! To be clear without bringing in things that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with what has been said in this thread: I was passive-aggressively accused of being intolerant because I simply shared why I was not watching Roseanne. I didn’t tell others not to watch. I didn’t say it shouldn’t be on the air. I didn’t say anything about people who do choose to watch it. If you want to drag a recently-deceased pea into this discussion, that is your choice, but I find it a deplorable thing to do. If you want to represent Trump-supporters as being compassionate, that certainly isn’t the way to do it, in my opinion. I lived in Ohio for 6 years. And you know what? That is the only place I’ve lived where I had a white supremacist sticker stuck on my windshield, blocking the driver’s view until it was scraped off. It was the only place I lived where KKK was painted on the side of my truck in acid, so that I had to repaint it, because I’m Jewish. I think that I understand a side of middle America that you don’t. Bless your heart. No, what's deplorable is YOU PRETENDING that she dragged a PERSON in when she clearly brought up a TOPIC. YOU using emotional blackmail in order to shut down a viewpoint you don't like, are what's deplorable.
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Post by imsirius on Mar 29, 2018 19:29:25 GMT
We’ll see how long the show stays on after those horrible pictures came out . They only agreed to 9 episodes, but I'm thinking after that disgusting photo (and there are more of them), the network may change their minds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:31:02 GMT
Horrifying. Like the comic holding the fake head of trump. Except Trump is very much alive and no murder and genocide was committed. Just to be clear, as despicable as the pics are, Rosanne didn't murder anyone either. The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:34:57 GMT
Me too! I think her hair is beautiful. It is very much how her hair was on the show and how she wears it IRL. On a completely different note about the show discussion, it's disappointing to hear that people won't watch it because she is a Trump supporter. I can only assume that puts you as a democrat, a side that seems to preach tolerance. It is so unfortunate tolerance only seems to apply when it is something you agree with. We all have a wide variety of opinions, I can't imagine that everyone else that you watch on TV shares the exact same opinions as (general) you. The show is for entertainment purposes only. Plenty of other shows use the show as a platform for their political agenda... I will never be tolerant of a bully. That's what people don't get about tolerance. I don't OWE intolerant, hateful people tolerance. I'm not going to support someone of influence who supports an intolerant asshole by giving her ratings. Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you.
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 29, 2018 19:45:15 GMT
We’ll see how long the show stays on after those horrible pictures came out . They got 18 million viewers on Tuesday. Deals are already in place for the 2nd season with the cast. Renewal is all but done.
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Post by carhoch on Mar 29, 2018 19:52:19 GMT
Except Trump is very much alive and no murder and genocide was committed. Just to be clear, as despicable as the pics are, Rosanne didn't murder anyone either. The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings. The Kathy Griffin pictures where gross and unappropriate but nothing happened to Trump , in this case 6 million people died in the camps And making fun of that is unexcusable and I think that we can agree that if it was appropriate for Kathy Griffin to lose her job the least ABC should do is the cancels the Rosanne show .
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Post by imsirius on Mar 29, 2018 19:54:04 GMT
I will never be tolerant of a bully. That's what people don't get about tolerance. I don't OWE intolerant, hateful people tolerance. I'm not going to support someone of influence who supports an intolerant asshole by giving her ratings. Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you. Why do you pick fights on EVERY THREAD you post on? Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:58:18 GMT
Just to be clear, as despicable as the pics are, Rosanne didn't murder anyone either. The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings. The Kathy Griffin pictures where gross and unappropriate but nothing happened to Trump , in this case 6 million people died in the camps And making fun of that is unexcusable and I think that we can agree that if it was appropriate for Kathy Griffin to lose her job the least ABC should do is the cancels the Rosanne show . The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings.
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