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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 20:02:55 GMT
Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you. Why do you pick fights on EVERY THREAD you post on? Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I didn't pick a fight, I pointed out the obvious. Why do you jump in to actually pick a fight ONLY when it goes one way. I didn't see you jump in when the bullying was happening. Or any other issue you have with me objecting to something inappropriate. Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old.
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Post by carhoch on Mar 29, 2018 20:03:43 GMT
The Kathy Griffin pictures where gross and unappropriate but nothing happened to Trump , in this case 6 million people died in the camps And making fun of that is unexcusable and I think that we can agree that if it was appropriate for Kathy Griffin to lose her job the least ABC should do is the cancels the Rosanne show . The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings. Like I said earlier I have no problem with Kathy Griffin losing her job
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Post by carhoch on Mar 29, 2018 20:05:49 GMT
We’ll see how long the show stays on after those horrible pictures came out . They got 18 million viewers on Tuesday. Deals are already in place for the 2nd season with the cast. Renewal is all but done. I think he will depend on how big the uproar of those pictures will do on social media but sadly you are probably right
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Post by imsirius on Mar 29, 2018 20:05:53 GMT
Why do you pick fights on EVERY THREAD you post on? Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I pointed out the obvious. Why do you jump in only when it goes one way. I didn't see you jump in when she was bullying. Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I didn't see her bullying. Apparently you keep tabs. I only notice repeated behaviour and you are the worst offender here. Every thread, no matter the topic, you create drama and pick a fight. Over and over.
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Post by shescrafty on Mar 29, 2018 20:06:24 GMT
Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you. Why do you pick fights on EVERY THREAD you post on? Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I am no longer responding to Gia. Not worth it. Putting her on ignore has been positive change for me here 👍🏼
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Post by slkone on Mar 29, 2018 20:07:14 GMT
I will never be tolerant of a bully. That's what people don't get about tolerance. I don't OWE intolerant, hateful people tolerance. I'm not going to support someone of influence who supports an intolerant asshole by giving her ratings. Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you. Lauren doesn't have to be tolerant of me, that's her choice.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 29, 2018 20:50:41 GMT
WTH? Into drama and over-blowing things much? What I choose to watch on television and support financially, because viewing numbers impact advertising dollars, is NOT a reflection of intolerance. I’m not telling people not to watch, I’m not fighting to get it pulled off the air, I’m not trying to shut it down in any way and am glad that there are people who do enjoy it. This thread was asking us whether or not we were watching and I purposefully kept my responses focused on ME and why I wasn’t watching. But you go on with your bad self and try to make my response into something it wasn’t. It certainly had nothing to do with intolerance - I’m sorry that was lost on you. When you try to make what sitcoms someone watches on television a reflection of the way they treat others, you have overreached in a colossal way. Okay then. I didn't call you or anyone else specifically out. That was my feeling on what I was reading from some general feelings on the thread. I don't think I made a huge stink about anything, looking to cause drama, etc. but if you feel or anyone else feel that I did, my apologies, it wasn't meant in that way. I didn't say anything before, but at this point I have to add to the conversation: I don't think you understand what tolerance actually means. It doesn't mean anyone has to embrace something they find detestable. It means they don't try to outlaw or punish people who do choose that thing, because they don't like it. (ETA assuming, of course, it is a privacy issue, not a crime against people.) Whether the thing is abortion, homosexuality, or Roseanne Barr ... the point is allowing people in a free society to find their own way, not forcing your way on someone else. With that said, I'm still planning to watch at least the first hour, no matter how detestable I find Roseanne. But that Nazi picture may push me over the edge.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 29, 2018 20:56:59 GMT
Why do you pick fights on EVERY THREAD you post on? Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I didn't pick a fight, I pointed out the obvious. Why do you jump in to actually pick a fight ONLY when it goes one way. I didn't see you jump in when the bullying was happening. Or any other issue you have with me objecting to something inappropriate. Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. And I don't think you understand what bullying actually means. It's not disagreement and it's not arguing and it's not even disrespect. It is pushing around, trying to take advantage of, and threatening someone weaker than yourself. You can't bully someone who is your equal, unless they allow it, and then they do become the weaker one. Do you honestly think either you or that other person I don't care to name is actually weaker than any liberal on this board? You don't strike me as a victim. You sure spend a lot of time claiming to be one, though.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 29, 2018 21:21:43 GMT
The Kathy Griffin pictures where gross and unappropriate but nothing happened to Trump , in this case 6 million people died in the camps And making fun of that is unexcusable and I think that we can agree that if it was appropriate for Kathy Griffin to lose her job the least ABC should do is the cancels the Rosanne show . The Kathy Griffin beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings. and your point is...?? The Roseanne Barr photo shows her making fun of VERY REAL atrocities that were committed against hundreds of thousands of people by a monster. --By your comparison, then Roseanne should ALSO be vilified and fired, just like Kathy Griffin- right?!? Don't bother answering, because I'm sure you have SOME reason it's different. I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy. As for the Roseanne reboot, I did record most of it / them, but the little I watched, I'm not sure if I can take her character any more. I used to find her biting humor funny, but now it just seems cruel to me. (the scene where Jackie said Roseanne used to call her stupid, or something like that, and Roseanne replies, "but I didn't MEAN it!" as if that makes all of her insults a-okay... and then they hug-- if I was Jackie and Roseanne was my sister, I don't think I'd have anything to do with her.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 23:25:39 GMT
I pointed out the obvious. Why do you jump in only when it goes one way. I didn't see you jump in when she was bullying. Grow the fuck up already. It's getting old. I didn't see her bullying. Apparently you keep tabs. I only notice repeated behaviour and you are the worst offender here. Here's the thread where she repeatedly bullys someone because of who she THINKS they are. If by keeping tabs you mean, I read the board and see what people post, I guess we all "keep tabs" then. Although you meant it as a way to devalue me, it didn't really work out that way. Apparently YOU "keeping tabs" is okay, but nevertheless the fact is, objecting to bullying and defending myself against personal attacks isn't picking a fight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 23:34:32 GMT
I am no longer responding to Gia. Not worth it. Putting her on ignore has been positive change for me here 👍🏼 When the only problem you have is with the person defending themselves from personal attacks or objecting to bullies, then it's not me, it's you and therefore I really don't care if you respond to me or not. And I don't think you understand what bullying actually means. It's not disagreement and it's not arguing and it's not even disrespect. It is pushing around, trying to take advantage of, and threatening someone weaker than yourself. You can't bully someone who is your equal, unless they allow it, and then they do become the weaker one. Do you honestly think either you or that other person I don't care to name is actually weaker than any liberal on this board? You don't strike me as a victim. You sure spend a lot of time claiming to be one, though. I KNOW you understand that being outnumbered makes it an uneven playing field and therefore what happens when those on the Left pile on and bully someONE on the Right, it IS bullying. Even by your definition. That's the consequence of the never ending quest to silence those perfectly rational, even politely civil views that "you" don't like. That there are so few on the Right remaining here. And I wouldn't spend so much time objecting to it, if so many didn't spend so much time doing it. and your point is...?? The Roseanne Barr photo shows her making fun of VERY REAL atrocities that were committed against hundreds of thousands of people by a monster. --By your comparison, then Roseanne should ALSO be vilified and fired, just like Kathy Griffin- right?!? Don't bother answering, because I'm sure you have SOME reason it's different. I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy. YOU might want to wait until there is some actual hypocrisy before you attempt to point it out. All I did was respond politely and completely civil to the claim "Except Trump is very much alive and no murder and genocide was committed." that beheading photos were also depicting the very real ISIS beheadings. I completely agree that the beheading photos and the Rosanne gingerbread photos are on the same level of disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 23:35:14 GMT
Unless it's YOU doing the bullying as you recently repeatedly did to a Pea about who you THINK they are. In that case, bullying's okay to you. Lauren doesn't have to be tolerant of me, that's her choice. I didn't say anything about being tolerant. I was responding to your claim that... "I will never be tolerant of a bully."
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Post by christine58 on Mar 29, 2018 23:36:04 GMT
FYI..."jackie" didn't vote for Hilary...LOL.. She said she voted for Jill Stein because she got so confused when trying to decide (or something like that)
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 29, 2018 23:37:37 GMT
We’ll see how long the show stays on after those horrible pictures came out . First, I am not here in defense of these photos, although it might sound like it. I do see some amount of misunderstanding, all over the internet, of the intent of the photos. Second, they're not new pictures - maybe ten years old? There was quite a dust-up then. The idea was Roseanne's, but a Jewish satire magazine cooperated, defended their decision, and the editor (publisher?) explained their thinking about Holocaust humor. Third, humor is in the eye of the beholder. These photos definitely cross (leap) over a line for me, but I understand that people can intellectualize the intersection of humor, art, Jewish culture, and the Holocaust and make an argument. Again, THEIR argument. The important thing among Roseanne's arguments is that malice was not her intention. She is an observant Jew who frequently decries anti-Semitism. (Interestingly, she used to concurrently support Zionism and call the occupation of Gaza "Nazism," comparing atrocities against Palestinians to Nazi atrocities, but she seems to have dropped that stance since her ideological about face.) None of us might support the way she uses her art as commentary on the Holocaust, but she did find a partner in this enterprise, so had some cultural support. (So, after announcing that RB was now on my boycott list - and still is - I write this...)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 0:57:54 GMT
FYI..."jackie" didn't vote for Hilary...LOL.. She said she voted for Jill Stein because she got so confused when trying to decide (or something like that) Yes she blamed Rosanne because she confused her and made her second guess her choice lol
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Post by PLurker on Mar 30, 2018 1:02:45 GMT
I was not home at the time it aired. I planned on watching on hulu. I knew Roseann was eccentric, did and said controversial things but to what extent I was not aware. The Hitler/cookie photo is appalling (and new) to me. Then I was made aware of her more recent (now deleted) statements/tweets/beliefs in pizzagate etc. And her even more attack on the Parkland students. I was planning on watching but have put it on pause for now.
I guess I'm mad at her right now and don't want that to cloud my feelings on the show. if I watch.
as my to-the-point DS asked me about her and bad-behaved people and their art - what takes priority "the jerk, or the work"?
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Post by SockMonkey on Mar 30, 2018 1:11:23 GMT
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Post by magenta on Mar 30, 2018 1:30:52 GMT
Did anyone notice Mark's teacher during the classroom scene? She was Miss Crane, Darlene's teacher from the original show. How funny they added that little detail.
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Post by slkone on Mar 30, 2018 1:39:29 GMT
You make no sense. Lauren and/or lovestocolor are both established bullies. You've proven that you really don't understand the meaning of the word bully. I called her a few names on one thread. She's habitually cruel and I really doubt that my name-calling intimidated her. Nice try,though.
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Post by MizIndependent on Mar 30, 2018 1:44:16 GMT
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Post by mlynn on Mar 30, 2018 1:49:52 GMT
Roseanne Barr is actually Jewish...so...not sure that makes it okay for her to make fun or not but, there it is. Well, it is acceptable for African-Americans to use the "n" word, so I guess so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 1:59:29 GMT
You make no sense. Lauren and/or lovestocolor are both established bullies. You've proven that you really don't understand the meaning of the word bully. I called her a few names on one thread. She's habitually cruel and I really doubt that my name-calling intimidated her. Nice try,though. You're a bully who doesn't tolerate bullying. Now you're trying to justify your own bullying. Just stop.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 30, 2018 2:03:50 GMT
You make no sense. Lauren and/or lovestocolor are both established bullies. You've proven that you really don't understand the meaning of the word bully. I called her a few names on one thread. She's habitually cruel and I really doubt that my name-calling intimidated her. Nice try,though. You're a bully who doesn't tolerate bullying. Now you're trying to justify your own bullying. Just stop. FFS. Always, always gotta get that last word in, don't you?
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 30, 2018 2:08:37 GMT
I was not home at the time it aired. I planned on watching on hulu. I knew Roseann was eccentric, did and said controversial things but to what extent I was not aware. The Hitler/cookie photo is appalling (and new) to me. Then I was made aware of her more recent (now deleted) statements/tweets/beliefs in pizzagate etc. And her even more attack on the Parkland students. I was planning on watching but have put it on pause for now. I guess I'm mad at her right now and don't want that to cloud my feelings on the show. if I watch. This, this and this! Get outta my head!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 2:12:24 GMT
You're a bully who doesn't tolerate bullying. Now you're trying to justify your own bullying. Just stop. FFS. Always, always gotta get that last word in, don't you? FFS. That tired old silencer just doesn't hold water. As usual, you're just fine with anyone you agree with "getting in their last word". #doublestandard.
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Post by mimima on Mar 30, 2018 2:17:11 GMT
Who is Jerry and how did Roseanne and Dan go from having 3 kids to mentioning having 4 kids? They had another kid on the original series. It was a surprise pregnancy. I'd definitely stopped watching by this time.
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Post by pyccku on Mar 30, 2018 2:26:02 GMT
While she may be Jewish, I am sure that there are many Jews who did not find those images the least bit humorous. there are some things you just don’t joke about. The holocaust is one of those in my book. Others may disagree, and that’s fine. I don’t find jokes about lynchings or rape funny either.
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Post by elaine on Mar 30, 2018 2:40:14 GMT
If Roseanne being Jewish makes those pictures fine and dandy, then Kathy Griffin being a white Christian should make the Trump picture okay. I don’t think either photo shoot was by any stretch of the imagination acceptable.
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Post by bazinga on Mar 30, 2018 3:35:56 GMT
Kathy Griffin is not a Christian. She is an atheist.
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Post by elaine on Mar 30, 2018 4:01:13 GMT
Kathy Griffin is not a Christian. She is an atheist. Okay. She is a white American, raised by Catholic parents who sent her to Catholic elementary school. Still doesn’t make her Trump photo shoot any more or less acceptable than Roseanne’s. My point being that group membership does NOT make either photo okay. eta: and I say this as a Jew.
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