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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 5:54:38 GMT
MerryMom I am so sorry. There are no words to say. Comfort, hugs and solidarity. @zingermack- Thanks for the update. I know it's not our business but it's a fun to be nosy. That is interesting the home didn't sell. I know there are lot of terrible justified fears right now. Even in my area people are still buying home auctions and at a good rate. My area is a big flipper type auction area so that real estate recipe works. I am just speculating about real estate in Becky's area. I don't know anything about Arizona's real estate market. I don't know if Becky's bank auction is due to Covid fears, Arizona's real estate market or the house is such a loss that it's more expensive to purchase. I guess somebody used all her Project Life sales to fund a lifestyle she couldn't afford then when Project Life couldn't evolve she got into deep financial straights. That's what it looks like to me. Coupon codes for Covid? Is she for real? Every time y'all post something new from her social feeds I can't imagine it getting any worse and then she tops it. She needs to change her "How to have a cultivated life" to "How to have an insensitive and entitled life."
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Post by Night Owl on Mar 13, 2020 13:18:21 GMT
I know this is not PC but Frank Garcia makes me laugh, he dresses like a tough guy and then makes the frilliest pastel projects. He does make some beautiful things, not saying he isn't talented.
....I'll show myself out and prepare myself for the hand slap. My kid's school is closed for the next 3 weeks so I've got to find my laughs where I can get them.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 13, 2020 14:21:33 GMT
I guess no one wanted to bid for Becky's house at full outstanding loan + other payments. Auction.com says property reverted to beneficiary (bank). "If there are no bids at the sale, title to the property reverts to the foreclosing beneficiary (the bank). The property then becomes what is known as an REO, which stands for Real Estate Owned (this term comes from the banks’ balance sheet). The above rules regarding lien seniority apply to the bank as well." Meaning the bank could go after David + Becky to make up for the mortgage loan money that is still missing, right? Yikes. Becky's going to need some more California trips to deal with all her anxious feels.
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Post by nicolep on Mar 13, 2020 15:12:43 GMT
I reviewed a really bad child fatality case today...Becky H has no clue what a bad day really is. That is awful. I'm so sorry. Can't imagine.
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Post by naby64 on Mar 13, 2020 15:59:48 GMT
I guess no one wanted to bid for Becky's house at full outstanding loan + other payments. Auction.com says property reverted to beneficiary (bank). "If there are no bids at the sale, title to the property reverts to the foreclosing beneficiary (the bank). The property then becomes what is known as an REO, which stands for Real Estate Owned (this term comes from the banks’ balance sheet). The above rules regarding lien seniority apply to the bank as well." Meaning the bank could go after David + Becky to make up for the mortgage loan money that is still missing, right? Yikes. Becky's going to need some more California trips to deal with all her anxious feels. It's been a million years since I worked in the mortgage industry but back in the day, no. Once it was titled as REO, it was the bank's property and nothing more was done. NOW the mortgage holder didn't get off scott free. There was a foreclosure on their credit record, I believe for 7 yrs or so. I was not on that end of the industry. I was on the processing of new loans and CS end. AND a thousand things have probably changed since I was in that industry.
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Post by auntmimi on Mar 13, 2020 17:59:05 GMT
Looking back, I notice now how odd it was Becky never talked about getting her old house ready to sell at any point when going on and on about the move and never mentioned it after they moved. She overshares on every single thing, but I guess she does have a filter when it paints her in a bad light.
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Post by pancakes on Mar 13, 2020 18:17:48 GMT
I guess no one wanted to bid for Becky's house at full outstanding loan + other payments. Auction.com says property reverted to beneficiary (bank). "If there are no bids at the sale, title to the property reverts to the foreclosing beneficiary (the bank). The property then becomes what is known as an REO, which stands for Real Estate Owned (this term comes from the banks’ balance sheet). The above rules regarding lien seniority apply to the bank as well." In case anyone is wondering about foreclosures because I know way too much about them, lol: There are a lot of factors with auction properties. The bank sets the price for the house. They can do this strategically — a lot of times, they will price it UNDER what is owed on the house, even to them, the first lien holder. That means the secondary lien holders (often construction or home equity) will not get paid. They do that so that they can get rid of it and get it off their books. That said, I don't know what the market is in AZ, but I could imagine in an up market (which it is likely not right now), a bank could, if they wanted to, strategically price the home higher so that it wouldn't sell and revert to an REO. I can't imagine a bank actually doing this, but it is within their power. But my biggest guesses on WHY Becky's home didn't sell are: - People who bid on auctions are few and far in between. It is often the same small handful of investors and venture funds that do this. If they don't "show up" to the auction that day or they are allocating their money toward other properties over this house, it won't get bought.
- People go to auctions looking for deals. If this property wasn't worth the price or the margin wasn't there, no one will buy it.
- Luxury properties are typically not the target for investors. They are gigantic, expensive to renovated, and harder to sell. It's a riskier play, although the margin/rewards can be great.
Now that it's an REO, the bank will try to sell it themselves. Sometimes they have relationships with investors who then buy after auctions as well. So what does that mean for Becky now? - She can still get a deficiency judgment filed on her...because Arizona allows that. Basically the bank asks for some amount of money to make up part of the cost that they don't get back.
- Their credit score drops (obvi)
- Everything that gets affected by credit is a lot harder for them...getting other loans, a new job, renting, etc.
And that is why you don't buy more house than you can afford.
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Post by lasteve1 on Mar 13, 2020 19:11:48 GMT
I guess no one wanted to bid for Becky's house at full outstanding loan + other payments. Auction.com says property reverted to beneficiary (bank). "If there are no bids at the sale, title to the property reverts to the foreclosing beneficiary (the bank). The property then becomes what is known as an REO, which stands for Real Estate Owned (this term comes from the banks’ balance sheet). The above rules regarding lien seniority apply to the bank as well." In case anyone is wondering about foreclosures because I know way too much about them, lol: There are a lot of factors with auction properties. The bank sets the price for the house. They can do this strategically — a lot of times, they will price it UNDER what is owed on the house, even to them, the first lien holder. That means the secondary lien holders (often construction or home equity) will not get paid. They do that so that they can get rid of it and get it off their books. That said, I don't know what the market is in AZ, but I could imagine in an up market (which it is likely not right now), a bank could, if they wanted to, strategically price the home higher so that it wouldn't sell and revert to an REO. I can't imagine a bank actually doing this, but it is within their power. But my biggest guesses on WHY Becky's home didn't sell are: - People who bid on auctions are few and far in between. It is often the same small handful of investors and venture funds that do this. If they don't "show up" to the auction that day or they are allocating their money toward other properties over this house, it won't get bought.
- People go to auctions looking for deals. If this property wasn't worth the price or the margin wasn't there, no one will buy it.
- Luxury properties are typically not the target for investors. They are gigantic, expensive to renovated, and harder to sell. It's a riskier play, although the margin/rewards can be great.
Now that it's an REO, the bank will try to sell it themselves. Sometimes they have relationships with investors who then buy after auctions as well. So what does that mean for Becky now? - She can still get a deficiency judgment filed on her...because Arizona allows that. Basically the bank asks for some amount of money to make up part of the cost that they don't get back.
- Their credit score drops (obvi)
- Everything that gets affected by credit is a lot harder for them...getting other loans, a new job, renting, etc.
And that is why you don't buy more house than you can afford.
Mortgages are not my area of expertise, but taxes are... so I will add on that if the bank cancels all, or any portion, of the remaining balance on the mortgage Becky will have to pay tax on that cancelation of debt as if it was income.
So, for example, if the mortgage balance was $500,000 when they walked away and the bank sells the house for $100,000 there is $400,000 left. As pancakes said, the bank can file a judgment against her for that full amount or part of it. But whatever they don't file judgment on becomes cancellation of debt income. So, if in this case they file judgment for $200,000 they cancel $200,000 and Becky pays income taxes on $200,000 as if she earned it the year they cancelled the debt. So, you can imagine, those taxes could be massive if there was a large outstanding loan balance and the bank wrote it off. So either way... a judgment against her or a huge tax bill... she's not walking away without consequences.
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Post by pancakes on Mar 13, 2020 19:26:31 GMT
So, for example, if the mortgage balance was $500,000 when they walked away and the bank sells the house for $100,000 there is $400,000 left. As pancakes said, the bank can file a judgment against her for that full amount or part of it. But whatever they don't file judgment on becomes cancellation of debt income. So, if in this case they file judgment for $200,000 they cancel $200,000 and Becky pays income taxes on $200,000 as if she earned it the year they cancelled the debt. So, you can imagine, those taxes could be massive if there was a large outstanding loan balance and the bank wrote it off. So either way... a judgment against her or a huge tax bill... she's not walking away without consequences.
Out of curiosity, do you know if banks file deficiency judgments frequently? I'm wondering how often they do end up going after the defaulters.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 13, 2020 19:57:22 GMT
Their credit score drops (obvi) Everything that gets affected by credit is a lot harder for them...getting other loans, a new job, renting, etc. It's kind of crazy when you look back and see Becky buying stuff left and right for the home, from expensive kitchen tops to luxury lighting and even a bunch of new Kallax because she no longer wanted the white ones #basic although they looked in top notch condition before the end of 2019. It might just be a coincidence but it could also be locking down as many big purchases as possible before they'd be saddled with bad credit. Here's to hoping they have everything in place to pay for college for all the kids and that nothing expensive suddenly breaks down on them.
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Post by kiera on Mar 13, 2020 20:21:12 GMT
and even a bunch of new Kallax because she no longer wanted the white ones Funny, if I wanted to change the color of a white piece of IKEA furniture I'd just use paint
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Post by pancakes on Mar 13, 2020 21:11:49 GMT
and even a bunch of new Kallax because she no longer wanted the white ones Funny, if I wanted to change the color of a white piece of IKEA furniture I'd just use paint I’ve tried this before, but some of the surfaces don’t take paint well — it just flakes or chips off, even with primer. I tried sanding, but I just created a lot of toxic dust ☹️
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Post by hop2 on Mar 13, 2020 21:24:56 GMT
I guess no one wanted to bid for Becky's house at full outstanding loan + other payments. Auction.com says property reverted to beneficiary (bank). "If there are no bids at the sale, title to the property reverts to the foreclosing beneficiary (the bank). The property then becomes what is known as an REO, which stands for Real Estate Owned (this term comes from the banks’ balance sheet). The above rules regarding lien seniority apply to the bank as well." Meaning the bank could go after David + Becky to make up for the mortgage loan money that is still missing, right? Yikes. Becky's going to need some more California trips to deal with all her anxious feels. Well since she is no longer interested in memory keeping, if she hadn’t tanked her brand with all the weirdness, she could have sold the company for a pretty penny AND had continuing licensing income for the use of her name/trademarked company names. But hey, whatever.
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Post by scrappyesq on Mar 13, 2020 21:29:32 GMT
Looking back, I notice now how odd it was Becky never talked about getting her old house ready to sell at any point when going on and on about the move and never mentioned it after they moved. She overshares on every single thing, but I guess she does have a filter when it paints her in a bad light. So wait..... she purposely let the bank foreclose on her first house and moved into a new one? Gross.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 13, 2020 21:33:35 GMT
Looking back, I notice now how odd it was Becky never talked about getting her old house ready to sell at any point when going on and on about the move and never mentioned it after they moved. She overshares on every single thing, but I guess she does have a filter when it paints her in a bad light. So wait..... she purposely let the bank foreclose on her first house and moved into a new one? Gross. Yah, it was a whole discussion a few pages back. We are assuming she went into voluntary foreclosure. They secured their new custom-built home + got all the major purchases done just in time before the foreclosure sale just a few days ago. And she shared all the expensive stuff like a US$2000 lighting fixture for the piano room on Instagram, invited the Washington Post over to participate in an article about building one's home and get ALL the pictures of the new, big McMansion published online, etc.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2020 0:37:11 GMT
In case anyone is wondering about foreclosures because I know way too much about them, lol: There are a lot of factors with auction properties. The bank sets the price for the house. They can do this strategically — a lot of times, they will price it UNDER what is owed on the house, even to them, the first lien holder. That means the secondary lien holders (often construction or home equity) will not get paid. They do that so that they can get rid of it and get it off their books. That said, I don't know what the market is in AZ, but I could imagine in an up market (which it is likely not right now), a bank could, if they wanted to, strategically price the home higher so that it wouldn't sell and revert to an REO. I can't imagine a bank actually doing this, but it is within their power. But my biggest guesses on WHY Becky's home didn't sell are: - People who bid on auctions are few and far in between. It is often the same small handful of investors and venture funds that do this. If they don't "show up" to the auction that day or they are allocating their money toward other properties over this house, it won't get bought.
- People go to auctions looking for deals. If this property wasn't worth the price or the margin wasn't there, no one will buy it.
- Luxury properties are typically not the target for investors. They are gigantic, expensive to renovated, and harder to sell. It's a riskier play, although the margin/rewards can be great.
Now that it's an REO, the bank will try to sell it themselves. Sometimes they have relationships with investors who then buy after auctions as well. So what does that mean for Becky now? - She can still get a deficiency judgment filed on her...because Arizona allows that. Basically the bank asks for some amount of money to make up part of the cost that they don't get back.
- Their credit score drops (obvi)
- Everything that gets affected by credit is a lot harder for them...getting other loans, a new job, renting, etc.
And that is why you don't buy more house than you can afford.
Mortgages are not my area of expertise, but taxes are... so I will add on that if the bank cancels all, or any portion, of the remaining balance on the mortgage Becky will have to pay tax on that cancelation of debt as if it was income.
So, for example, if the mortgage balance was $500,000 when they walked away and the bank sells the house for $100,000 there is $400,000 left. As pancakes said, the bank can file a judgment against her for that full amount or part of it. But whatever they don't file judgment on becomes cancellation of debt income. So, if in this case they file judgment for $200,000 they cancel $200,000 and Becky pays income taxes on $200,000 as if she earned it the year they cancelled the debt. So, you can imagine, those taxes could be massive if there was a large outstanding loan balance and the bank wrote it off. So either way... a judgment against her or a huge tax bill... she's not walking away without consequences.
Not because of Becky but just because how does the IRS know? And will the IRS garnish your social security for it?
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Post by miss2peas on Mar 14, 2020 3:44:09 GMT
Looking back, I notice now how odd it was Becky never talked about getting her old house ready to sell at any point when going on and on about the move and never mentioned it after they moved. She overshares on every single thing, but I guess she does have a filter when it paints her in a bad light. Yes, this is what I have been thinking. If it wasn’t for her doing this she would have at least said something about how excited the new owners were to get the home or if it was sitting on the market for sale, she would say how she needs to be patient and some things take time etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 4:28:27 GMT
I don't think it is Becky Proudfit-- or if it is, she just visited Cents of Style, or something. Cents of Style is run by some woman named Courtney Brown-- although it does say on their website that there are more than 30 women (mostly moms) involved in the company. from the company's "About Us" page: "I fought for my dream and grew this idea into a multi-million dollar company through a lot of hard work and other great women. Today, Cents of Style is made up of more than 30 women, mostly moms. Our families are our first priority, but we use this company to bless our families financially and through the personal empowerment it brings each of us. This unique perspective of being women, mothers and businesswomen allows us to bring an accessibility to fashion and a level of understanding to our business relationships. Our motto here at Cents of Style is “when you look good, you feel good,” and I would add, you can then use that goodness to bless others."--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then again, since the company is made up of more than 30 women, maybe Becky Proudfit does work there in some fashion... And of course, this company is headquartered in... where?? You get three guesses, and the first two don't count!! Utah!! where else?!? It’s definitely BProud. She posted about “something in the works” on her Insta.
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Post by scrappydo on Mar 14, 2020 8:46:24 GMT
Good grief She's back to being a "guru" - - - she's got an email coming out to tell us how to document COVID-19.
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Post by lasteve1 on Mar 14, 2020 12:41:09 GMT
Out of curiosity, do you know if banks file deficiency judgments frequently? I'm wondering how often they do end up going after the defaulters. I don’t know, but cancellation of debt income is common from foreclosures so I would say not often. My guess is they do some research into the financial status of the debtor and determine if there is a chance they’ll collect. Becky is probably a good one to go after, they have substantial assets. The income from actually collecting is better for the bank than the tax write off they get for canceling the debt. Not because of Becky but just because how does the IRS know? And will the IRS garnish your social security for it? The IRS knows everything 😊 sorry.... that’s kinda the standard line in my business. But really, the bank tells them. The bank will issue the debtor a 1099-c that says how much cancellation of debt income they have. Just like a W2 issued from your employer telling you how much you made in wages. These forms are also filed by the entity that issues them and the IRS (and state tax departments) compare them to make sure both sides reported the income the same. While the individual has income, the bank has a deduction for writing off bad debt and the two should match. Many things work that way... one party has income and one has an expense and they both report it in their taxes. The IRS has a report for every individual per year that shows all income reported to them, 1099s, W2s, etc. and if it’s not all reported on the return the individual files it’s pretty guaranteed they’ll contact you for audit. The IRS is also notified anytime any US citizen deposits, withdraws or moves $10,000 or more from any account worldwide (minus some offshore tax haven companies that don’t have US ties). The IRS has the ability to collect from many sources... tax departments and the IRS have pretty strong collection powers that are way more broad than other debt collectors (such as the bank trying to collect on the unpaid mortgage). I am a tax attorney, so I like to provide my insight when it’s relevant to the discussion but I actually work for the government so I can’t give legal advice for people to rely on, also there are so many exceptions and special rules that could apply, so I’m hesitant to provide more specific information... I also wouldn’t know this answer for sure off the top of my head because I don’t typically work with collections, my job is more focused on determining how much is owed. I would say that if you or someone you know is in a situation where they can’t afford their tax debt, especially if it’s on cancellation of debt income, I would suggest hiring a tax attorney. If that is not in the budget I would suggest calling the IRS and trying to explain the situation and see if they will work with you... that is always going to have a better outcome than just trying to avoid it because if they find a way to collect you will not get a warning, they’ll just take it and tell you after. They also have many resources on their website and, if you are low enough income, you could search for a “low income taxpayer clinic” that will provide you with free legal representation and advice against the IRS. The IRS (and state tax departments) have access to a lot of information on everyone and have extremely strong powers to reach, bill and collect from everyone, but they are made up off generally good people who want to do the right thing. I (and my coworkers and those I have spoken to at the IRS and other states) try to figure out each persons situation and work with them to find the best outcome. Yes, there are lots of people out there trying to scam the system, and usually we can tell and are not lenient. But there are also lots of good people trying to figure out the complicated tax system or how to pay and we can tell that too, and we try to find a solution that is fair.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2020 13:09:19 GMT
lasteve1 I was wondering if that would explain why someone I know is still working full time at 82 but doesn’t want to. I know they lost their house, I know the bank lost money on it, because sales are public record. I don’t know the rest. It’s not really my business to know but it sure would explain some stuff. Thank you for explaining.
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Post by lasteve1 on Mar 14, 2020 13:33:45 GMT
lasteve1 I was wondering if that would explain why someone I know is still working full time at 82 but doesn’t want to. I know they lost their house, I know the bank lost money on it, because sales are public record. I don’t know the rest. It’s not really my business to know but it sure would explain some stuff. Thank you for explaining. Well, the IRS can definitely garnish wages. Social security is a more complicated question. But whatever they are taking, they can't take the money someone needs for basic necessities... so they wouldn't force someone to be homeless or starve. With the whole housing crisis the IRS was giving some people an exemption from paying taxes on cancellation of debt from a foreclosure if they truly lost everything (not Becky's situation). There could be a lot of factors in the person you know's situation--such as other unpaid debts or an unwillingness to live at the lower income level they would definitely be at if they retired and relied only on social security. But tax debt could definitely be one reason.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 14, 2020 13:37:33 GMT
lasteve1 I was wondering if that would explain why someone I know is still working full time at 82 but doesn’t want to. I know they lost their house, I know the bank lost money on it, because sales are public record. I don’t know the rest. It’s not really my business to know but it sure would explain some stuff. Thank you for explaining. Well, the IRS can definitely garnish wages. Social security is a more complicated question. But whatever they are taking, they can't take the money someone needs for basic necessities... so they wouldn't force someone to be homeless or starve. With the whole housing crisis the IRS was giving some people an exemption from paying taxes on cancellation of debt from a foreclosure if they truly lost everything (not Becky's situation). There could be a lot of factors in the person you know's situation--such as other unpaid debts or an unwillingness to live at the lower income level they would definitely be at if they retired and relied only on social security. But tax debt could definitely be one reason. Oh, they definitely still live beyond their means, for sure. Not really my business I guess.
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Post by questioning on Mar 14, 2020 19:46:31 GMT
Good grief She's back to being a "guru" - - - she's got an email coming out to tell us how to document COVID-19. Good grief x 2! I definitely want health advice from someone who displays a lack of what most call "common sense" and social awareness. She is mid-life and self-evaluation of career and choices is natural, only she's not going that deep. She believes her own hype, and we've learned there is no there there. I can't even feel sorry for her after the childishness she's posted. I am just catching up and this is pages old- If anyone should stop and think about how her social media represents her it is Becky Higgins. Why isn't someone from her family or friends telling her to cool it?
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 14, 2020 20:25:08 GMT
Cents of Style as another LDS business. It's a closed loop, people. If it's been featured on the ldsliving website, it'll eventually be on B²'s podcast. Expect the owner of Cents of Style to be featured on their podcast soon about her struggles with infertility, adoption story and need to develop herself outside of her home as a businesswoman. The 30 women she works with are Mormon SAHM, make of that what you will. We all know the classic boss babe/use-your-own-circle-of-influence business scheme. Tupperware parties for cheap clothes, y'all.
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 14, 2020 20:35:49 GMT
Cents of Style as another LDS business. It's a closed loop, people. If it's been featured on the ldsliving website, it'll eventually be on B²'s podcast. Expect the owner of Cents of Style to be featured on their podcast soon about her struggles with infertility, adoption story and need to develop herself outside of her home as a businesswoman. The 30 women she works with are Mormon SAHM, make of that what you will. We all know the classic boss babe/use-your-own-circle-of-influence business scheme. Tupperware parties for cheap clothes, y'all. I learn more about LDS businesses on 2peas than I do anywhere else.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 14, 2020 20:39:23 GMT
Cents of Style as another LDS business. It's a closed loop, people. If it's been featured on the ldsliving website, it'll eventually be on B²'s podcast. Expect the owner of Cents of Style to be featured on their podcast soon about her struggles with infertility, adoption story and need to develop herself outside of her home as a businesswoman. The 30 women she works with are Mormon SAHM, make of that what you will. We all know the classic boss babe/use-your-own-circle-of-influence business scheme. Tupperware parties for cheap clothes, y'all. I learn more about LDS businesses on 2peas than I do anywhere else. You're welcome?
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Post by sueg on Mar 14, 2020 23:00:30 GMT
Good grief She's back to being a "guru" - - - she's got an email coming out to tell us how to document COVID-19. Am I the only one who is dreading her getting even a bad cold right now? I can't begin to imagine her posts.
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Post by questioning on Mar 15, 2020 17:48:45 GMT
I learn more about LDS businesses on 2peas than I do anywhere else.
I learn more about LDS everything! I tried listening to the podcast about Mormon history sleepingbooty shared but it's more than I need or want to know. I need to find a condensed version.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 15, 2020 18:04:23 GMT
Good grief She's back to being a "guru" - - - she's got an email coming out to tell us how to document COVID-19. GROSS!!! she's going for profiting and click-baiting off of a worldwide pandemic?!? SERIOUSLY, Becky?!?!? if I didn't *intensely dislike* (I won't write 'hate') her before, boy, this sure takes the cake in terms of the word CLUELESS, doesn't it?!? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eta: and I'm normally a pretty compassionate person, but man- I can't find much to be compassionate about in someone this clueless and tone-deaf.
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