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Post by refugeepea on Jun 12, 2019 20:33:14 GMT
Sure, she might be 'big' in Mormon circles. But the reality is this - she is a 'has been'. Most people don't care about her anymore. And instead of riding into the sunset, she keeps beating a dead horse that something else is coming. But she doesn't know what that is. Or when it's coming. She really is not a big deal. There's a touring thing that goes around to different cities that is LDS promoted called Time Out for Women (yes stupid name) and she might be more known if she was a speaker at one of these events.
It is tempting to let my feelings get hurt by your comment that I am “coming up short” as a leader but fortunately I am not leaning on other people’s opinions about my character. Oh.my.freaking.hell. It's called constructive criticism.
Actually it is ok if you want to pause and try new, clear water and know nothing of what you’re doing next. It’s not ok for me and other customers who hang around looking for answers and supplies and no I don’t want to just buy from you I want a choice of where I shop. So I will happily leave you paddling in your happy zone and find a brand that cares about its customers who don’t have to self indulge in this pause! You know crafters move on! Well here’s one that is! Utah isn’t a green state is it? I am thinking she’s puffing on something... She lives in Arizona. I don't think it's a green state. |
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Post by mom on Jun 12, 2019 20:43:41 GMT
I only followed her on IG and I finally had to unfollow today. Her more recent developments are ridiculous and it blows me away that she thinks PL should have continued to be viable without putting in business-related effort and listening to her customers. I have zero interest in her personal life and she has never impressed me with her talent or personality, especially with many "real", generous and talented scrapbookers out there. I can sympathize with her struggles, but she isn't someone I relate to IRL and frankly, she has always seemed out of touch with real life as *I* see it. I had an appreciation for her past products (mostly the collaborations with other designers and SU) and have no reason to not consider future purchases if PL sticks around, although I gravitated toward SC and other card designers a long time ago since they offered what I wanted and not in massive quantities. It seems pretty definite that if she doesn't sell the PL brand and refuses to separate her personal life from it, physical PL will forever be done. You aren't the only one unfollowing her. She's down about -270 since June . |
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Post by crafty on Jun 12, 2019 21:46:30 GMT
Well, I broke my own self imposed Cultivate a Good Life podcast ban because I noticed on Heidi Swapp's Instagram she made an appearance. I love HS. After listening I went down an Instagram rabbit hole checkout out Becky Proudfit instagram, BH current Instagram and then this Movara place. I went back and read some of the BH instagram. Yikes! My recap...for my own amusement-  * It's obvious that BH changed a great deal when BP appeared. *BP certainly doesn't lack in self-confidence. She thinks she's "hot". Why do these grown women keep calling each other "hot" or is this normal? I may tell a friend she's looking good or a color looks good on her, but I'm not sure we call each other hot. *BP attempts to use the self-deprecating humor but it's clear...she likes herself. A lot. *HS repeatedly talks about "evolving" her business to MAKE MONEY (she doesn't say those words, but implies it when she talks about her American Crafts deal.) She understands that you have to sell things to make money. *HS shares how her Instagram is random sharing. BH says that she gets criticism for having a mix on hers and asks HS if she does too. HS says, "Nope. I don't get that." Ding, ding, ding...BH REFLECT on why...she shares a ton of products and ideas with the right amount of personal sprinkled in. *BH just doesn't understand that sharing products and inspiration would bring in sales. She can't create and produce more because she refuses to share inspiration. Heck, she could just have an app team and give them the kits for free and share a page a day and people would buy. What does she think people are going to order if she doesn't have anything? Someone even asked if there were going to be new notebooks and she basically said, "Maybe". I thought these notebooks were the key to being a success in life? Wouldn't they need to make more to keep all the people on track? Whatever will people do if they can't get her notebooks? *Wendy was the funny, cute one and she has been replaced by BP. *If I was BH I would find people outside of her yes team and actually get feedback. *She is sacrificing the well being of her "girls" by taking a step back and not producing product. Does she think they want to have to find new jobs? Maybe they can't be on an extended vacation while BH figures out what the heck she is doing. *Who can afford to drop everything and head to some Movara place? Whatever. So unrelatable. *One anxiety attack and now she's an expert. *Is one of the steps of Movara to make amends-maybe the Becky the mean girl should apologize to some lady she berated via email and everyone else that she offended. *BH-please read your Instagram responses and then wait a few. Most are snotty. Even if a customer says something rude, you respond in a professional manner. *It's yucky to add "BH Raffle" to a gofundme post. I bet she loves to show her family that much of the money is coming in because of her. She's turned into a "guru" of everything. Ok...That was a waste of two hours. In a couple years she can go on tour and tell everyone how to run a business into the ground because you are so stubborn. |
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Post by srtasoleada on Jun 12, 2019 21:55:56 GMT
She finally did another “Where my girls at” Wednesday in her Insta stories and it’s clear that none of them are actually working, except BP, who is flying from UT, where she’s on vacation, back to AZ for a speaking engagement, and then back again to UT to continue on vacation.  I 100% agree that this is the behavior of someone who works because they can, not because they have to, and have the privilege to stop whenever it ceases to be “fun”. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 13, 2019 0:59:36 GMT
I’m officially going on record as saying Becky Proudfit fucked Project Life. Why, I have no idea, but she seems to be the catalyst for BH’s downward spiral. Something about that chick gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Post by marie on Jun 13, 2019 1:51:47 GMT
She will never acknowledge that. In one of her podcasts she throws shade at other companies who took the pocket page scrapping idea and ran with it because she created that system. In her mind, you shouldn't buy their products, hence, demand is down. That's just ridiculous, that's how capitalism works. And also pretty much all inventions--does she think we should stop buying different brands of cars because they didn't invent the concept? How about her apple products... they didn't invent the cell phone, a guy working for Motorolla did... so why is she okay with owning an iphone? She's just insane. UGH She doesn't get it. Between this post + her stories, I am beginning to think she reads here and she is addressing us in her posts. But why? The BH brand is dead. Its not going to rise like a phoenix. Sure, she might be 'big' in Mormon circles. But the reality is this - she is a 'has been'. Most people don't care about her anymore. And instead of riding into the sunset, she keeps beating a dead horse that something else is coming. But she doesn't know what that is. Or when it's coming. The sad thing is, I think she could actually come back. If she came out with monthly project life kits (physical products, square corners, increased quality, good designers) and had a design team and adequate promotion they would probably thrive. If she focused on just albums and divided page protectors and sold them in big box retailers, they would sell out. If she hired good designers to create new core kits with squared corners and quality printing, advertised them and showed project samples, and sold them through various retailers they would thrive. She still has the name and connections to make it happen, she just doesn't care enough to do it and then whines when no one wants what she is "selling" which is really nothing at the moment. If she is done with scrapbooking and wants to become an influencer, fine, go for it. But she should sell the project life name while it still has some clout and move on. She will likely fail miserably because she is not the kind of person that people want as an influencer, but whatever. If that's her new dream, go for it. But why run a successful business into the ground in the process? Agree with you on all this. |
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Post by craftymom101 on Jun 13, 2019 1:54:23 GMT
She admitted in her post that no new products are being made for physical project life. None. Because of “supply and demand”.
This tells me that she is closing the physical PL brand but doesn’t want to be viewed as a failure so she is keeping the website live (and not creating any new products). In a year, maybe two, she will announce the closure of her business, that we mere morons didn’t see coming from a mile away, sell everything at a deep discount, and write a sob story about it.
I know that sounds cynical but a business won’t be sustainable if nothing new is being produced.
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Post by Belia on Jun 13, 2019 2:01:08 GMT
"You wouldn’t be here if you didn’t find value in what I’m sharing or feel faith in me as a person or us as a brand."
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha NO. Some of us are just here for the trainwreck, Becks. kthanxbye
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Post by bluemaige on Jun 13, 2019 2:12:36 GMT
She admitted in her post that no new products are being made for physical project life. None. Because of “supply and demand”. This tells me that she is closing the physical PL brand but doesn’t want to be viewed as a failure so she is keeping the website live (and not creating any new products). In a year, maybe two, she will announce the closure of her business, that we mere morons didn’t see coming from a mile away, sell everything at a deep discount, and write a sob story about it. I know that sounds cynical but a business won’t be sustainable if nothing new is being produced. I think that she believes that die hard PLers will take her digital things (which is being updated) and be happy with that. It is so much less expensive for her, and the designer for this year has her own following outside of the app and a lot of us buy the new kits because they were designed by her ... and her name escapes me at the moment. |
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Post by craftymom101 on Jun 13, 2019 2:14:11 GMT
She admitted in her post that no new products are being made for physical project life. None. Because of “supply and demand”. This tells me that she is closing the physical PL brand but doesn’t want to be viewed as a failure so she is keeping the website live (and not creating any new products). In a year, maybe two, she will announce the closure of her business, that we mere morons didn’t see coming from a mile away, sell everything at a deep discount, and write a sob story about it. I know that sounds cynical but a business won’t be sustainable if nothing new is being produced. I think that she believes that die hard PLers will take her digital things (which is being updated) and be happy with that. It is so much less expensive for her, and the designer for this year has her own following outside of the app and a lot of us buy the new kits because they were designed by her ... and her name escapes me at the moment. I think the digital PL app will stick around, for awhile anyway. But the physical PL is dead. |
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Post by artisticscrapper on Jun 13, 2019 3:31:57 GMT
I’ve been catching up on several days of the Becky chronicles. A few things are standing out. First of all is her “I don’t know and it’s okay” IG post. Sorry, Becky, but it’s not okay. You’re talking about your business, not about deciding which earrings you’ll be wearing tomorrow. A successful business has a definite plan which is why you aren’t making money.
Then there’s her Go Fund Me request. I’m sorry her brother in law is sick but I find it tacky to expect her fan girls help pay for his cost of living expenses (she says his medical bills are paid). And her raffling off 2 hours of her super busy valuable time just ups the tacky factor.
I checked her IG stories today and she’s upset because she signed up for some business seminar (couldn’t keep from laughing at that) but she’s not going since that’s her moving day. First of all didn’t she remember this when she scheduled the movers and secondly if she does take this seminar is she actually going to listen and learn or just ignore the things she doesn’t like? I’m going with the latter.
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Post by cbscrapper on Jun 13, 2019 3:40:00 GMT
I think the only reason she isn’t saying physical is dead is because she has a ton of unsold inventory that she needs to move first. That’s why it “isn’t going anywhere for now” but she’s not producing new stuff.
AC is unloading its inventory at TM. I feel like BH has a separate inventory, but is above selling at a discount.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 13, 2019 4:22:06 GMT
Sure, she might be 'big' in Mormon circles. But the reality is this - she is a 'has been'. Most people don't care about her anymore. And instead of riding into the sunset, she keeps beating a dead horse that something else is coming. But she doesn't know what that is. Or when it's coming. She really is not a big deal. There's a touring thing that goes around to different cities that is LDS promoted called Time Out for Women (yes stupid name) and she might be more known if she was a speaker at one of these events.
It is tempting to let my feelings get hurt by your comment that I am “coming up short” as a leader but fortunately I am not leaning on other people’s opinions about my character. Oh.my.freaking.hell. It's called constructive criticism.
Actually it is ok if you want to pause and try new, clear water and know nothing of what you’re doing next. It’s not ok for me and other customers who hang around looking for answers and supplies and no I don’t want to just buy from you I want a choice of where I shop. So I will happily leave you paddling in your happy zone and find a brand that cares about its customers who don’t have to self indulge in this pause! You know crafters move on! Well here’s one that is! Utah isn’t a green state is it? I am thinking she’s puffing on something... She lives in Arizona. I don't think it's a green state. You are right. She is in Az and they don’t have green but this sacred place is beyond weird. |
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Post by joblackford on Jun 13, 2019 4:38:54 GMT
This tells me that she is closing the physical PL brand but doesn’t want to be viewed as a failure so she is keeping the website live (and not creating any new products). In a year, maybe two, she will announce the closure of her business, that we mere morons didn’t see coming from a mile away, sell everything at a deep discount, and write a sob story about it. I can almost write the post now. "You guys, people just aren't buying paper PL products any more. We're listening to you and you're telling us the app is where you want this business to be. Maybe you don't understand all the hard decisions we've had to make as the market changes, but this is what you want and this is what's right for us now... blah blah blah" -blergh- |
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jun 13, 2019 7:59:29 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums.
Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing."
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on Jun 13, 2019 16:19:15 GMT
Another Facebook post. Good for you if it was somebody from here who posted it: It was a pea |
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Post by amom23 on Jun 13, 2019 16:33:22 GMT
I was surprised by the comments expressing how happy to hear physical PL wasn't going away. Huh? BH says no new products are being developed. To me that is most definitely code for what we have on hand is it folks! Why on earth would existing PL products be replenished? What am I missing?
It's understandable for BH to get tired, wanna go in a new direction, blah, blah, blah, but sell the company trademark then. Don't let the company fold completely. It's pretty obvious pocket scrapbooking is still popular. I'm sad since BH has been around as long as I've been a scrapbooker, but life will most definitely go on.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 13, 2019 18:10:01 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums. Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing." Creativeexpress.com (that is now defunct) was started by the owners of Keeping Memories Alive in Utah. They were probably the first mainstream scrapbook store and one of the first websites. They sold this system. It's bothering me I can't remember the name! It reminded me of Quik Kutz or however that was spelled. It had an odd spelling like that. No way did she not know about this when she was working at Creating Keepsakes. Coincidence that right before she left, she came up with the 365 system?  |
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Post by questioning on Jun 13, 2019 18:14:56 GMT
She really gives women a bad name. She is the type of woman men propagate when they are insisting women are too emotional to hold positions of power. I agree - makes me crazy. Is she not getting advice, or is it she isn't listening to her advisors? Surely her childish words and actions are being noticed by people IRL. I am fortunate, professional and personal mentors are around to give me perspective and legitimate business advice. I would assume she is in the same position - why isn't anyone helping her? Anyone who has run a successful company for decades, not just her favorite mommy bloggers.  She is church centered, is there a group there to help her? I'm protestant and our church has groups who offer advice to small business owners, moms re-entering workforce, or people making career changes, etc. It's a social service, not proselytizing. The volunteers I know are experienced, successful. Does the Mormon church do this, or is it all about preaching and giving back to the church? It's understand if she wants to close the company, she just grabbed onto this wave and didn't know where it would lead. At midlife she might want something different. She should be mature about it, and look at the way other "icons" stepped away or did a hand-off. She'd learn she could still have the benefits without being tied to the daily details. Her current actions are going to inhibit others from working with her in the future - who wants to partner with a spiteful whiner? |
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Post by karinec on Jun 13, 2019 20:09:27 GMT
"You wouldn’t be here if you didn’t find value in what I’m sharing or feel faith in me as a person or us as a brand." hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha NO. Some of us are just here for the trainwreck, Becks. kthanxbye lolololol me for sure! |
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Post by joblackford on Jun 13, 2019 20:47:18 GMT
She is church centered, is there a group there to help her? I'm protestant and our church has groups who offer advice to small business owners, moms re-entering workforce, or people making career changes, etc. It's a social service, not proselytizing. The volunteers I know are experienced, successful. Does the Mormon church do this, or is it all about preaching and giving back to the church? As I understand it her religion isn't very supportive of women working outside the home so I suspect the advice she would get there would be more about how to protect her family time/life and make sure her business doesn't interfere with the more important roles of wife and mother. I don't think she's getting much honest feedback IRL. It's a shame. |
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Post by bluemaige on Jun 13, 2019 20:55:24 GMT
She really gives women a bad name. She is the type of woman men propagate when they are insisting women are too emotional to hold positions of power. I agree - makes me crazy. Is she not getting advice, or is it she isn't listening to her advisors? Surely her childish words and actions are being noticed by people IRL. I am fortunate, professional and personal mentors are around to give me perspective and legitimate business advice. I would assume she is in the same position - why isn't anyone helping her? Anyone who has run a successful company for decades, not just her favorite mommy bloggers. She is church centered, is there a group there to help her? I'm protestant and our church has groups who offer advice to small business owners, moms re-entering workforce, or people making career changes, etc. It's a social service, not proselytizing. The volunteers I know are experienced, successful. Does the Mormon church do this, or is it all about preaching and giving back to the church? It's understand if she wants to close the company, she just grabbed onto this wave and didn't know where it would lead. At midlife she might want something different. She should be mature about it, and look at the way other "icons" stepped away or did a hand-off. She'd learn she could still have the benefits without being tied to the daily details. Her current actions are going to inhibit others from working with her in the future - who wants to partner with a spiteful whiner? If she is getting “professional” advice, I don’t see it coming from anyone outside of her ‘you are soooooooo awesome’ circle of worshipers. My biggest complaint isn’t what she is or isn’t doing, it is that she has asked multiple times for input and really smart, engaging, and honest people are giving her really really good advice for free. They are taking their time out of their day to give her a hand and she not only ignores and/or belittles them, but continues to ask the same questions because she isn’t getting the answers SHE believes she should have, or that others have convinced her she DESERVES as this ‘guru’ she has decided she is. Then she gets sarcastic, hating, and mean towards anyone who doesn’t agree with her, or who dares to agree with those people who are obviously smarter about business than she is. She gets mad when the suggestions like separating her accounts into personal and professional, marketing, or just listening to your customers, and she walks around in a whiny huff, woe is me, I’m so picked on...waiting for her sycophants to tell her she is awesome. What a waste. |
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 13, 2019 22:54:26 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums. Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing." I have three huge scrapbooks of my teaching career of 30 years in the Scrapworks pages. They were black instead of clear and I loved them. I bought over 120 of Scrapwork's pages and rationed out how many I could use per year to finish out my career. I don't think BH started PL before she left CK in 2009. That was about the time when Anthologie stopped making their boxes. She capitalized on a product that was no longer being created. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 23:17:36 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums. Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing." I have three huge scrapbooks of my teaching career of 30 years in the Scrapworks pages. They were black instead of clear and I loved them. I bought over 120 of Scrapwork's pages and rationed out how many I could use per year to finish out my career. I don't think BH started PL before she left CK in 2009. That was about the time when Anthologie stopped making their boxes. She capitalized on a product that was no longer being created. I said I wouldn’t but here I am. It was called Qwikit by Provocraft.  |
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Post by amom23 on Jun 13, 2019 23:20:16 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums. Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing."
Back in the early 2000's CTMH offered 2 different styles of pocket pages for their post bound albums. I started using them for vacation photos. I clearly remember making my own journaling cards LOL. I thought it was so great to speed up my scrapbooking at the time. I still love all those early albums. 
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 13, 2019 23:28:24 GMT
I have three huge scrapbooks of my teaching career of 30 years in the Scrapworks pages. They were black instead of clear and I loved them. I bought over 120 of Scrapwork's pages and rationed out how many I could use per year to finish out my career. I don't think BH started PL before she left CK in 2009. That was about the time when Anthologie stopped making their boxes. She capitalized on a product that was no longer being created. I said I wouldn’t but here I am. It was called Qwikit by Provocraft. Some things are just more powerful than we realize. |
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Post by MerryMom on Jun 13, 2019 23:29:40 GMT
She didn't "invent" pocket scrapbooking anyway. ScrapWorks was producing Anthology boxes and page kits for a multitude of pocket scrapping back when Becky was still doing her sketches thing. Those boxes rock and are still some of my favorite albums. Becky, sweetie, I am not resistant to change and afraid to evolve. I just have zero interest in following you in your proselytizing or your "influencing." Also Qwikits ETA the poster above beat me to it. |
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jun 14, 2019 2:54:25 GMT
Thanks for all the other product info pre-PL. I didn't mean to imply that ScrapWorks was the inventor, either--just that their system predated PL. And that I adore their products, including their albums.
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Post by cbscrapper on Jun 14, 2019 3:50:07 GMT
Don’t forget that Memory Works started Simple Stories with the cut apart sheets that fit We R Memory Keepers divided page protectors the same time that Becky released her first PL kit (now called the Cherry Edition). Kinda fun to read this post for AE from that timeframe. aliedwards.com/2010/01/ae-365-project-lifeIn all seriousness, BH owes a lot of her PL success to Ali using her system and products. Ali is the reason I started PL (with the Turquoise Edition), not Becky. Ali showcased the product well and consistently posted and shared inspiration. Interesting that Ali creating her own pocket products and cutting back on using Becky’s (except maybe albums, but that has changed for this year too) coincides with the PL decline too. |
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