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Post by lexilu on Aug 20, 2018 4:39:48 GMT
My brother and SIL are upset because I didn't go to my nephews's high school graduation party. I did send a card with a monetary gift. I had all ready agreed to go to a wedding with my SO. We had responded yes to the wedding and booked our hotel reservation before receiving the grad invitation. I guess I also missed my nephew's 8th grade grad party too (I don't remember why). It's actually been a quiet summer .... the party and wedding were my only two invites .... of course they were on the same day/same time .... 2.5 hrs away from each other. I told my brother that I was sorry I missed the party. Enough with the cold shoulder from him. Thanks for listening!
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Post by ntsf on Aug 20, 2018 5:19:06 GMT
I would skip the brother and just tell your nephew that you were sorry to miss it.. but I'd bet he will understand and not too upset..
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Post by walkerdill on Aug 20, 2018 5:26:46 GMT
We just had an graduation party for my dd. She coulda cared less what family members were/weren't there. She was too busy hosting all of her friends that came. Apologize to the nephew & don't beat yourself up about it.
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Post by amom23 on Aug 20, 2018 7:49:07 GMT
I would have been mad at you too, but HS graduations are a bigger deal around here. Both sides of the family are small and everyone makes the effort to show up for the big stuff (graduations, weddings, etc.). I will say that I most definitely would have made sure everyone knew the date months in advance.
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Post by gar on Aug 20, 2018 7:57:30 GMT
Being from the UK we don't place the same importance on graduations as you do, especially not 8th grade (!!) but if you'd already booked a hotel, accepted a wedding invitation (rather than a casual invite) what did your brother expect? Hopefully he'll get over it soon.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 20, 2018 8:16:37 GMT
I would have been mad at you too, but HS graduations are a bigger deal around here. Both sides of the family are small and everyone makes the effort to show up for the big stuff (graduations, weddings, etc.). I will say that I most definitely would have made sure everyone knew the date months in advance. So what should she have done about the wedding she had already RSVP’d to? (ETA: And booked accommodation for!) Made them mad instead? I guess I don’t see what’s the big deal about a graduation party - probably because they’re not a thing where I come from.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 8:34:04 GMT
I don't get why your brother is mad at you. You already had that date booked for someone's wedding.Did he expect you not to go to the wedding after you had already accepted the invite?
I assume that you told him that when he gave you the grad party date or did you not turn up to the grad party without telling them you were at a wedding on the same day?
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Post by nlwilkins on Aug 20, 2018 9:10:41 GMT
Just how much advance notice did he give? Surely the date of graduation was known months and months ahead. Did he not give you advance notice? If not, then the onus is on him.
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Post by cycworker on Aug 20, 2018 9:18:29 GMT
I have the same question.... when did you find out? And did you talk to brother when date was announced? If you'd known you could've said no to the wedding - unless it was a member of dh' family, or a close friend, in which case wedding takes precedence.p
Also - was the hotel non-refundable? That makes a difference, too.
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Post by wellway on Aug 20, 2018 9:21:23 GMT
I would have been mad at you too, but HS graduations are a bigger deal around here. Both sides of the family are small and everyone makes the effort to show up for the big stuff (graduations, weddings, etc.). I will say that I most definitely would have made sure everyone knew the date months in advance. So what should she have done about the wedding she had already RSVP’d to? (ETA: And booked accommodation for!) Made them mad instead? I guess I don’t see what’s the big deal about a graduation party - probably because they’re not a thing where I come from. This would be me too. I don't understand the significance, doesn't everyone finish high school?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 9:51:58 GMT
He'll get over it and if he doesn't, too sodding bad. Family that expect you to drop everything for their benefit can do one.
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Post by AllieC on Aug 20, 2018 10:21:31 GMT
I would have been mad at you too, but HS graduations are a bigger deal around here. Both sides of the family are small and everyone makes the effort to show up for the big stuff (graduations, weddings, etc.). I will say that I most definitely would have made sure everyone knew the date months in advance. So what should she have done about the wedding she had already RSVP’d to? (ETA: And booked accommodation for!) Made them mad instead? I guess I don’t see what’s the big deal about a graduation party - probably because they’re not a thing where I come from. Totally agree! I don’t get the whole graduation thing and I certainly don’t think it takes precedence over a wedding.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Aug 20, 2018 10:57:19 GMT
My brother did the same thing, and I was furious. Graduations are a big deal around here, my son was Valedictorian, and my brother is my closest sibling and he and my son have a wonderful relationship. I was extremely hurt. I got over it, obviously. But, I was hurt. I bet your brother is too. An heartfelt apology and some understanding could go a long way.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 20, 2018 11:02:18 GMT
Here's the thing in my view - you get to choose where you go, and you chose. Other people (your brother in this case)don't really get to weigh in on those choices unless you ask them.
You acknowledged your nephew so you didn't blow it off. I say this as a person who has been blown off more times than most and in recent years has been doing the blowing.
Family, graduation, wedding, stay home and do nothing - all choices. Some mentioned someone would be unhappy no matter what you choose. So bottom line, what made you happy? Whatever it is, do that.
I hope you and SO had a lovely time at the wedding.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 20, 2018 11:02:41 GMT
My brother did the same thing, and I was furious. Graduations are a big deal around here, my son was Valedictorian, and my brother is my closest sibling and he and my son have a wonderful relationship. I was extremely hurt. I got over it, obviously. But, I was hurt. I bet your brother is too. An heartfelt apology and some understanding could go a long way. But what did your son think?? Grad parties are big here too but I also know that kids are excited at who is there and don't give a second thought to someone who was unable to come. I know that my nieces and nephews were very understanding to relatives and friends who might not have been able to attend. It's one day in a lifetime of other events. I suggest that lexilu call and talk to her nephew and explain. Kids are more understanding than we think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 11:09:37 GMT
The only way I can understand him being mad is if you didn't tell him that you couldn't make it.
It's not like you ignored it completely.
Graduations are a dime a dozen. Just about everyone graduates from high school. Weddings are a bigger deal. Don't feel guilty. You got a wedding invite, knew your calendar was open so you and your SO accepted, booked a hotel and made plans. The invitation for the graduation party came later. I'm assuming your brother didn't tell you before that when they had planned on having it.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 20, 2018 11:13:47 GMT
Now we don't know your relationship to the wedding couple, but obviously if you responded yes to an out of town wedding that involved travel + hotel, they are more than just an acquaintance.
Those giving the Op a hard time about missing the party, put yourself in the place of the wedding couple after receiving a cancellation from Op and Dh.
And yes, I guess it does depend upon how much advance notice was given, though Op said she RSVP'd to wedding before she knew date of graduation.
I think you did the right thing. You gave nephew a gift and acknowledged his achievement, you didn't just blow it off.
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Post by gar on Aug 20, 2018 11:28:10 GMT
This would be me too. I don't understand the significance, doesn't everyone finish high school? That’s what I always think 😀
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Post by auntkelly on Aug 20, 2018 11:40:01 GMT
High School graduations are a pretty big deal in my family and we’ve attended all but one of our six nieces and nephews’ high school graduations. (One of my nephews was graduating from high school in Oklahoma the same night my son was graduating from high school in Texas, so we missed that nephew’s graduation). We would start talking about the graduations when the school year began, and everyone would add the graduation weekend to their calendar.
If it was important to your brother that you attend his son’s graduation, he should have told you the date far in advance. He should have known the date when the school year began.
In a way, I understand why your brother’s feelings were hurt that you weren’t at graduation.. However, I think it’s unfair for him to hold a grudge since he didn’t give you the graduation date as soon as he knew it and he didn’t explain to you how important it was to him that you attend.
I hope your brother lets go of his anger and the relationship can be healed. While I think graduations are important, I sure don’t think they are worth destroying a brother/sister relationship.
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 20, 2018 11:49:41 GMT
I don’t get being bent out of shape when family members can’t make it to graduation related things. I can more understand people being miffed if you choose not to attend the actual ceremony. But getting upset because you had to miss the party to celebrate the actual event? Nope.
ETA: why did they also throw him an 8th grade graduation party? I can tell you that I absolutely would have not attended that. Utterly ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 12:05:58 GMT
Sliding out of the same vagina does not obligate you to spend time with siblings if you don't want to.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Aug 20, 2018 12:13:45 GMT
My brother did the same thing, and I was furious. Graduations are a big deal around here, my son was Valedictorian, and my brother is my closest sibling and he and my son have a wonderful relationship. I was extremely hurt. I got over it, obviously. But, I was hurt. I bet your brother is too. An heartfelt apology and some understanding could go a long way. But what did your son think?? Grad parties are big here too but I also know that kids are excited at who is there and don't give a second thought to someone who was unable to come. I know that my nieces and nephews were very understanding to relatives and friends who might not have been able to attend. It's one day in a lifetime of other events. I suggest that lexilu call and talk to her nephew and explain. Kids are more understanding than we think. Truthfully, I don't know what he thought. I wanted my family together to witness a unique and proud event, it was very important to me. I'm guessing my son had other things on his mind, i.e., his speech to 4,000 people. Graduations aren't just about the graduate, it's also a celebration for the parents who sweated and sacrificed to get the kid there. It's about family honoring achievements and rites of passage.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 20, 2018 12:16:33 GMT
Truthfully, I don't know what he thought. I wanted my family together to witness a unique and proud event, it was very important to me. I'm guessing my son had other things on his mind, i.e., his speech to 4,000 people. Graduations aren't just about the graduate, it's also a celebration for the parents who sweated and sacrificed to get the kid there. It's about family honoring achievements and rites of passage. True but sometimes I think too much emphasis is put on the party. Seriously, pretty much everyone graduates from HS> And honestly, is the party for your child or YOU??
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Post by kibblesandbits on Aug 20, 2018 12:24:27 GMT
Truthfully, I don't know what he thought. I wanted my family together to witness a unique and proud event, it was very important to me. I'm guessing my son had other things on his mind, i.e., his speech to 4,000 people. Graduations aren't just about the graduate, it's also a celebration for the parents who sweated and sacrificed to get the kid there. It's about family honoring achievements and rites of passage. True but sometimes I think too much emphasis is put on the party. Seriously, pretty much everyone graduates from HS> And honestly, is the party for your child or YOU?? Both, lol. I was more talking about the ceremony, not necessarily the party. And yes, everyone graduates - or should. However, not everyone is Valedictorian.
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Post by mallie on Aug 20, 2018 12:30:36 GMT
Truthfully, I don't know what he thought. I wanted my family together to witness a unique and proud event, it was very important to me. I'm guessing my son had other things on his mind, i.e., his speech to 4,000 people. Graduations aren't just about the graduate, it's also a celebration for the parents who sweated and sacrificed to get the kid there. It's about family honoring achievements and rites of passage. True but sometimes I think too much emphasis is put on the party. Seriously, pretty much everyone graduates from HS> And honestly, is the party for your child or YOU?? I think it quite commonly is for both the child and the family. Is there something wrong with that? To me, it's like weddings while the primary focus is on celebrating the couple, it is quite common for the non-ceremonial aspects to also function as a family reunion. (I know my dd went to a wedding recently for a friend she made during an internship and the group of friends from that internship viewed the wedding as a way to celebrate Jack and Jill's wedding, but equally as a reunion for them. Surely, we've all gone to events and look forward to the people we will see there above and beyond the person being celebrated.) IMO, events celebrating individuals in a family are important ways to strengthen family bonds, especially these days when families may not be able to get together for weekly Sunday dinners or regular casual interactions (often because of geographic distance).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 12:34:09 GMT
High School graduations are a pretty big deal in my family and we’ve attended all but one of our six nieces and nephews’ high school graduations. (One of my nephews was graduating from high school in Oklahoma the same night my son was graduating from high school in Texas, so we missed that nephew’s graduation). We would start talking about the graduations when the school year began, and everyone would add the graduation weekend to their calendar. If it was important to your brother that you attend his son’s graduation, he should have told you the date far in advance. He should have known the date when the school year began. In a way, I understand why your brother’s feelings were hurt that you weren’t at graduation.. However, I think it’s unfair for him to hold a grudge since he didn’t give you the graduation date as soon as he knew it and he didn’t explain to you how important it was to him that you attend. I hope your brother lets go of his anger and the relationship can be healed. While I think graduations are important, I sure don’t think they are worth destroying a brother/sister relationship. She was talking about the party, not the ceremony.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 20, 2018 12:37:17 GMT
It's unfortunate, but I would have made the same choice.
DH & I missed my favorite nephew's graduation party, too. We had already booked a trip to Alaska. Thankfully, if my sister was mad, she kept it to herself. She said she understood.
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Post by julieb on Aug 20, 2018 12:48:49 GMT
Lordy, that is ridiculous. Sit at a graduation party for 3-4 hours in the heat or go have fun at a wedding? I'm sure if it was her, she would have been at the wedding also. I don't understand people and why they feel family has a major obligation to them.
My brother is mad at me also. I said I couldn't go to my niece's baby shower because we are going up to our lakehouse for a girls' weekend, which I am hosting. I think because he is a guy he doesn't understand that sitting at a shower for 3 hours, compared to going away for the weekend with my friends, wouldn't be more fun. I'm sure they will be petty and "pay you back" by somehow not attending something you are hosting.
I'm also skipping my great-nephew's 1st birthday party, as we have friends coming up to our lakehouse. If they are mad, so be it.
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Post by just PEAchy on Aug 20, 2018 13:01:21 GMT
I think it's silly to get upset over things like this (missing a grad party). I think most people do what they can to support family & attend events, but that doesn't mean they should drop everything else. My kids & most of their cousins are the same age. Sometimes their events coincide. We've had First Communions, graduations, recitals on the same weekends, so some do have to miss. We missed my niece's graduation party because my dd was in a musical. Also, sometimes dates change. My dd's First Communion changed dates just 6 weeks before the event. My son's graduation date changed in late February due to a high number of snow days. I'm glad everyone in my family is understanding.
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Post by auntkelly on Aug 20, 2018 13:14:34 GMT
High School graduations are a pretty big deal in my family and we’ve attended all but one of our six nieces and nephews’ high school graduations. (One of my nephews was graduating from high school in Oklahoma the same night my son was graduating from high school in Texas, so we missed that nephew’s graduation). We would start talking about the graduations when the school year began, and everyone would add the graduation weekend to their calendar. If it was important to your brother that you attend his son’s graduation, he should have told you the date far in advance. He should have known the date when the school year began. In a way, I understand why your brother’s feelings were hurt that you weren’t at graduation.. However, I think it’s unfair for him to hold a grudge since he didn’t give you the graduation date as soon as he knew it and he didn’t explain to you how important it was to him that you attend. I hope your brother lets go of his anger and the relationship can be healed. While I think graduations are important, I sure don’t think they are worth destroying a brother/sister relationship. She was talking about the party, not the ceremony.
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