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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2018 20:33:21 GMT
Will someone make him answer one damned question please.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 27, 2018 20:34:18 GMT
They were just talking on CNN about how he blamed, among others, “the Clintons” in his opening statement. I thought I had heard that, but I dismissed as mishearing because that’s just too blatantly right wingie for a person being considered for his position. Anybody else hear that? Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons."
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 27, 2018 20:34:24 GMT
I know this is intensely personal and humiliating, whether he’s guilty or not. I get it. But I would think somebody with this much experience as a lawyer and a judge would be doing a better job, e.g. not interrupting, repeating, and sputtering so much as a witness. I guess I expected somebody who could force himself to be come off as more thoughtful - and less furious - during a hearing like this. Less accusatory. Yes, but as a judge, he's the authority. He can interrupt lawyers all he wants, without repercussions. And he can go on and on, without repercussions. Yeah, you’re right. He does seem imperious, which is probably the privilege of the bench. Too bad he can’t move from imperious to cooperative when he’s in another role. Oh, cripes, now he’s just being disingenuous and baldly antagonistic. Nobody’s “mocking” him. And he eating away the senator’s time.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 27, 2018 20:36:11 GMT
They were just talking on CNN about how he blamed, among others, “the Clintons” in his opening statement. I thought I had heard that, but I dismissed as mishearing because that’s just too blatantly right wingie for a person being considered for his position. Anybody else hear that? Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons." People are pretty pissed off that Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 27, 2018 20:36:37 GMT
Okay, he needs to get a grip on himself. I know he's furious, frustrated probably, etc, but he needs to calm down because shouting at senators isn't helping him any.
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 27, 2018 20:37:12 GMT
ABC is talking to one of his friends / colleagues (not sure who) and she mentioned that the first thing Christine Ford did was call the Washington Post tipline, so that makes it suspicious about her motives. She didn't know what to do or where to go with her information!! And she did that tipline thing anonymously!! According to her sworn testimony this morning, that is false. She first contacted her Congresswoman, who then suggested she contact Feinstein. After she was outed, she did speak to a reporter at the Post. In fact, a reporter showed up during one of the College Classes she was teaching, and introduced her self as a reporter, and asked for a statement.
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Post by lizacreates on Sept 27, 2018 20:38:07 GMT
Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons." People are pretty pissed off the Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think. I don't think anything of it. What made you say that? I was merely answering Amelia's question.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 27, 2018 20:38:38 GMT
She did mention contacting the tipline... I thought I heard her say that.
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so is he trying to say that he used his calendar as a journal to document past events, as well as future events like a typical calendar would?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 20:39:32 GMT
So apparently he walked in with security. I wasn't watching when she entered this morning. Was she with a security detail, as well? They're both receiving death threats so probably so.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Sept 27, 2018 20:40:17 GMT
People are pretty pissed off the Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think. I don't think anything of it. What made you say that? I was merely answering Amelia's question. Apologies, I was probably reading meaning into your post that you didn't intend.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 20:40:36 GMT
"Senator, let me take a step back and explain high school." it's REALLY bothering me that he keeps interrupting and is SO very belligerent. He is the witness here. Belligerent, can you imagine him drunk?!?!
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 27, 2018 20:41:02 GMT
I haven't heard her testimony yet. I just got home from work. I got home just in time to hear his opening statement. I'm kind of surprised he wasn't told to keep his temper under control. It's not a good look. He seems combative. If it is innocent, I get why he would be angry. But it seems like they would have urged him to maintain composure. I'm not going to jump on anyone who cries genuine tears, whether it's a man or woman.
I was listening to one of the CNN pundits talk after his opening statement. She said it's quite possible that both of them are telling their truth, the way they remember the events. That may very well be the case. So why not let the FBI do an investigation of the charges to clear your name? And I'm not talking about the FBI background check. I'm talking about specifically these accusations.
With all that said, he is going to be a Supreme Court judge. I have no doubt about it. The Republicans are still Trump lackies and will toe the party line. It's pathetic.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2018 20:41:18 GMT
"Senator, let me take a step back and explain high school." it's REALLY bothering me that he keeps interrupting and is SO very belligerent. He is the witness here. Belligerent, can you imagine him drunk?!?! Exactly. Mean drunk.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 20:41:22 GMT
Crying and now blowing his nose and sniffing. I just heard his speech called filliblubbering. He is way more invested in the stuff that's been said about him on TV than he is in the subject at hand. He also sounds like he's trying to sound like a preacher. Man - he's defensive. There is no professionalism about him whatsoever. It’s the Republican way. Talk about everything except what you’re being asked.
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Post by Rhondito on Sept 27, 2018 20:42:22 GMT
Fucking Grassley!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 27, 2018 20:42:58 GMT
Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons." People are pretty pissed off that Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think. But he’s framing this supposed cause of his victimhood as a fact. I think that’s a misstep and it makes me wonder if his obvious bitterness about partisanship will affect him on the SC as he rules on anything with political ramifications. I guess I just suddenly don’t trust him. And weirdly, it has as much to do with the way he’s handling himself (all his accusations) as it does his guilt/innocence.
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 27, 2018 20:43:20 GMT
Belligerent, can you imagine him drunk?!?! Exactly. Mean drunk. Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I was raised by a father who was a mean drunk. I know them when I see them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 20:43:40 GMT
The repubs are going to put this guy on the bench. They are willing to sacrifice the November election and control of congress temporarily for the longer range goal of seating this guy on the SC for life. He will be confirmed...and I hope I am wrong. I feel the same way. The just don’t care. All one needs to do us look at who they elected potus. The pussy grabbing-treat women line shit-degrade them idiot.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 27, 2018 20:45:34 GMT
Yes. He's a "victim of revenge on behalf of the Clintons." People are pretty pissed off that Clinton isn't president...this idea is not as far fetched as you may think. maybe some people are, but many people are just pissed off that the president is a liar and a con man and flaunts every ethics rule & law that we have. I don’t really care if Hillary is president or Snoopy. Just stop lying, stop being a world wide embarrassment and live the the ethics laws, rules & clauses that we have as a nation Personally I prefer to get back to the point where I have nothing better to do than whine about policies & beige suits & flip flops I also do not care if the next SC Justice is liberal or conservative. I care that this nominee has lied under oath and there is proof of that. Not once did I whine or complain about Gorsuch nomination. He wasn’t a proved liar
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Post by thundergal on Sept 27, 2018 20:45:46 GMT
omg my heart is racing
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Post by karinec on Sept 27, 2018 20:46:11 GMT
And I certainly did not want to see his life destroyed. It is not unreasonable to believe that he has turned his life around. And that when removed from the peer influences of his high school friends, which may have encouraged him to behave in a way that was not acceptable, that his behavior since the event has been exceptional. But, when facing a lifetime appointment to one of the most important jobs that affects millions of American, then character counts. I agree with this completely. He is painting himself as the innocent choir boy that drank beer, and I don't buy it. He may be promoting women as contrition for his acts in the past. He may not be the same person as he was then, but that doesn't excuse previous behavior.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2018 20:46:12 GMT
He WILL NOT say he would welcome an FBI investigation to clear him. Hmmm, wonder why?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2018 20:46:36 GMT
Durbin has asked him several times if Kavanaugh would support and FBI investigation............ SILENCE!
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Post by flute4peace on Sept 27, 2018 20:46:42 GMT
Wow! Sen. Durbin just put him in a box! BOOM!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 20:46:58 GMT
Off topic but wanted to mention it while I'm thinking of it. I'm on my way out the door so not watching him. But I wanted to share a thought about the tears, and really am not meaning to be handslappy at all. But in only having the benefit of reading the responses, I think maybe we should be more conscientious in the way we discuss it. If he is crying for any reason other than theater and manipulation, doesn't that have to be okay? This is an emotional trial and if he truly is innocent, I'm sure he'd be emotional. We want men to feel free to show more emotional and be less typically "masculine." So when we discuss his tears I think it could be beneficial to consistently indicate the reason for our (perfectly valid) issues with his crying, instead of just making blanket statements that he needs to stop crying already and he is pathetic for crying. Include more background info about it being theater, not seeming sincere, something so that the comments and their intent couldn't be easily misconstrued. Am I making sense? Yes, you are. And it occurs to me that he may likely be very emotional thinking of his father. I felt the initial emotion was likely genuine. But it got to be too much. He started crying when talking about one of his buddies. Is that guy dead? (rhetorical) I'm just confused by the excess of tears. And that also in juxtaposition with how utterly calm his wife appears to be. Just like acting—you draw emotion (I.e. needing to cry) from things you can personally relate that emotion. I’m a happy person, but if I start talking about my dad, even if it is a happy memory, I cry. Always.
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Post by purplebee on Sept 27, 2018 20:47:40 GMT
Wow....he is really sidestepping the FBI investigation question being asked by Sen. Durbin. He is losing points rapidly. For a supposedly smart legal mind, can he not see how saying absolutely yes to an FBI investigation would make him appear? He is afraid of the FBI. And I want to smack Lindsay Graham.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 27, 2018 20:48:12 GMT
Graham's going to have a stroke!
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 27, 2018 20:48:23 GMT
Lindsey Graham, please shut the fuck up.
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Sept 27, 2018 20:48:58 GMT
Graham's going to have a stroke! We can only hope. Man, I detest that guy.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2018 20:49:16 GMT
He still won't directly answer questions! Just like he did when he was in his other hearings.
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