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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 4, 2018 23:49:10 GMT
Any one with a subscription to Washington Post Kavanaugh has just written an OpEd............... Please post it... I missed most when they read it on MSNBC no............
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Post by #notLauren on Oct 4, 2018 23:50:31 GMT
And its looking more and more like this will be one her last votes in office but she's behind in the polls and her no vote will likely lead to her loss. If that's the case, good. I'm tired of politicians who put their own interests and the party's interest above those of the people that put them in office. If you'd do any research you discover Heidi was down by 10 pts in her last election and won. None of the major news outlets are commenting on the farm tariffs. ND farmers have been hit HARD and Kevin Cramer doesn't have much of a message other than to tell farmers to suck it up and hang in there. My point is there is a lot more at stack for ND voters than this court nominee. Like all other elections, we'll wait and see.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 4, 2018 23:50:42 GMT
It didn’t take long for the trolls to be horrible to people sharing. It’s ingrained in their character. Just remember—anything you share, the trolls will use to belittle and demean you. It doesn’t matter to me. Antidepressants have saved my life over the years. I will not let anyone shame me or anybody else because of it. Just ignore the fucking troll. She is nothing. A hate-filled and bitter bitch who attacks peas with their most personal issues. She is disgusting and a big fat zero. She serves no purpose here at all. I totally agree with you—my doctor said that many people have had to up their antidepressant medications because of the politics the last two years—anxiety has been at an all time high. Just don’t let that fucking bitch belittle or demean you for sharing your most personal stuff. This board would be better without the lines of her here.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 4, 2018 23:54:10 GMT
OH my!! PLEASE hold the vote Saturday! GOP senator may miss Kavanaugh vote for daughter’s weddingBY TAL AXELROD - 10/04/18 07:22 PM EDT A GOP senator may miss a Senate confirmation vote for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this weekend because his daughter is getting married on Saturday. Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.) will walk his daughter down the aisle for her wedding regardless of the timing of the vote, a Daines spokesperson confirmed to The Hill. Senate Republican leaders plan to hold a key procedural vote Friday morning, setting up a potential confirmation vote for Saturday afternoon. It is unclear if Daines’ trip will impact the timing of the vote. “If there is any change to timing or any announcements on votes, we’ll be sure to get the info out as we always do,” a spokesperson for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) office said in a statement to The Hill. Republicans currently hold a 51-49 majority in the Senate and can only afford one defection if Democrats unanimously vote against Kavanaugh. Three Republicans remained undecided on Thursday. Daines would be a reliable vote in favor of Kavanaugh. thehill.com/homenews/senate/410019-daines-to-miss-kavanaugh-vote-for-daughters-wedding
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 0:15:46 GMT
Well, I was making a statement about how it looks through my eyes. There's a reason the term Trump Derangement Syndrome was coined. I hate Hillary Clinton with a passion but I would not have needed to up my meds or bawled my eyes out if she won. And yeah, yeah, because you think there would be no reason to. Hey, if the upped dosage gets you through the day, more power to you. Of course you wouldn’t of had to “up your meds” or “bawled your eyes out” if Hillary had won because you would have known there would have been a slightly left of middle Democrat sitting in the Oval Office instead of the one man wrecking ball occupying it now. There is no spin with trump, there is no taking what he says out of context to make it mean something it doesn’t, there is no need to sew misinformation by his enemies to make trump look as vindictive, petty, corrupt, and as stupid as he does. He does it all on his own with every word that he utters and every action that he takes. And he has since they day he announced he was running for president. If you chose not to see trump for what he is and hang on to your manufactured hate of Hillary, go for it if that is what floats your boat. But we do get to question your judgement. Or lack of. But IMO if you criticize or mock someone for how they handle ithis mess we are in with trump when it comes to their illness then you have kind of stepped over the line into “I really am a first class bitch” territory. IMO.
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Post by #notLauren on Oct 5, 2018 0:41:51 GMT
Just as I get to question your judgment or lack thereof. It's a two way street. And I'll own being a first class bitch. I'm in very good company with you and just about everyone else who posts on political threads.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 5, 2018 0:48:52 GMT
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Post by frenchie on Oct 5, 2018 1:04:49 GMT
Well, I was making a statement about how it looks through my eyes. There's a reason the term Trump Derangement Syndrome was coined. I hate Hillary Clinton with a passion but I would not have needed to up my meds or bawled my eyes out if she won. And yeah, yeah, because you think there would be no reason to. Hey, if the upped dosage gets you through the day, more power to you. Our lives are different. What matters in my life might not matter in yours. I might have more to lose than you. tara this is the perfect statement. It can be easy to lose sight of the fact that we all live different lives and have different needs. Remembering that(at least for myself) is a good reality check.
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Post by megop on Oct 5, 2018 1:10:59 GMT
I'm still not convinced though that the Senate will achieve a 51 confirmation vote. While voting Republicans may vote pocket books, Senators are typically all about keeping their office. With a 51/49 Senate, I don't believe it is a done deal by any stretch. I can only imagine the convos and pressure being applied to some of members right now. THAT is what makes my heart hurt. I have to assume there is some way wheeling and dealing going on beyond a SCOTUS vote right now. Thinking pence may be needed to push him thru - right now I think the ND Democrat down in the polls (sorry on my phone and her name escapes me) may flip and 2 Republicans - but man I can’t imagine the arm twisting going on Exactly where my head is at Darcy.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 5, 2018 1:24:21 GMT
LOL....every celebrity and nitwit out there voices their opinion on everything and you've got a problem with this? OK. I'll take your disapproval under consideration. you are free to share your opinion on anything you want. I'm free to share mine that you have made such an stupid, uniformed opinion based on little to no information you have. ETA AmeliaBloomer yeah, I know. I'm out Who, me? PLurker, I’m actually asking. LOL. I’ve posted so much recently, I don’t actually remember my relevance to this discussion.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 5, 2018 1:52:37 GMT
Isn't that the definition of the Republican Party leadership right now? Edited to try to fix quote but it won't let me - statement was: I'm tired of politicians who put their own interests and the party's interest above those of the people that put them in office.
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Post by PLurker on Oct 5, 2018 1:52:54 GMT
W.T.Fox.... ?!!!
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Post by PLurker on Oct 5, 2018 1:53:45 GMT
Who, me? PLurker , I’m actually asking. LOL. I’ve posted so much recently, I don’t actually remember my relevance to this discussion. not this discussion, you just reminded me in past to ignore some things.....
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Post by jamieson on Oct 5, 2018 1:56:20 GMT
Just as I get to question your judgment or lack thereof. It's a two way street. And I'll own being a first class bitch. I'm in very good company with you and just about everyone else who posts on political threads. Your kind of douche bag doesn't change it's stripes, laurene.
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Post by thundergal on Oct 5, 2018 1:57:41 GMT
A very core tenant for Republicans, even moderate ones like me, are economic factors. In my experience, Republicans and even a portion of Democrats, Independents etc. vote their pocketbooks. As long as Trump has those indicators trending up, it's going to be hard to flip seats due to other society issues that need to be addressed. It WILL flip as politics and economics are very much cyclical. The question is when in my mind. While is sounds deaf and harsh reasons to vote, at the end of the day, at least in my circle of Republicans, it's about government growing economic opportunity so that people have the option if they so choose, to change their circumstances through that. The above is, of course, is very simplistic as we all know there are a myriad of other barriers that SHOULD be addressed which effect people taking advantage of economic opportunity. I'm just elaborating a bit more over Darcy's comment above as to the possibly "why" current polls show a GOP gain. Thanks megop. I really appreciate your thoughts.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 5, 2018 1:58:22 GMT
Who, me? PLurker , I’m actually asking. LOL. I’ve posted so much recently, I don’t actually remember my relevance to this discussion. not this discussion, you just reminded me in past to ignore some things..... Ah, got it. That sounds like the me I know. Carry on. Or don’t.
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Post by thundergal on Oct 5, 2018 2:00:51 GMT
If it makes you feel any better, also in my circle of Republican women, we would all come unglued at an SJC Roe overturn attempt. Of course I hang with a pretty moderate crowd with me probably being the most center. While most of them hold dear a woman's right to choose\ I love you and think that this board, especially political threads, are better when you participate. I'm catching up here this evening and I would like to be added to any list being compiled expressing gratitude for megop on this thread.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 5, 2018 2:03:51 GMT
I'm catching up here this evening and I would like to be added to any list being compiled expressing gratitude for megop on this thread. Me three. Or seven...or whatever we’re up to.
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Post by megop on Oct 5, 2018 2:08:15 GMT
Oh my gosh you all. I'm humbled and thank you. I don't even know what to say beyond HUGS!
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Post by dewryce on Oct 5, 2018 2:11:31 GMT
W.T.Fox.... ?!!! I realize it's only an opinion piece but it still felt a bit like down was up and black was white when I read the title. Off to read.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 2:13:02 GMT
Just as I get to question your judgment or lack thereof. It's a two way street. And I'll own being a first class bitch. I'm in very good company with you and just about everyone else who posts on political threads. Maybe but what I don’t do is attack someone for the medication they take. Now that I think about it, it’s an attribute you share with trump. Explains a lot.
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 5, 2018 2:32:05 GMT
Any one with a subscription to Washington Post Kavanaugh has just written an OpEd............... Please post it... I missed most when they read it on MSNBC no............ wsj.com I Am an Independent, Impartial Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh I was deeply honored to stand at the White House July 9 with my wife, Ashley, and my daughters, Margaret and Liza, to accept President Trump’s nomination to succeed my former boss and mentor, Justice Anthony Kennedy, on the Supreme Court. My mom, Martha—one of the first women to serve as a Maryland prosecutor and trial judge, and my inspiration to become a lawyer—sat in the audience with my dad, Ed.
That night, I told the American people who I am and what I believe. I talked about my 28-year career as a lawyer, almost all of which has been in public service. I talked about my 12 years as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, often called the second most important court in the country, and my five years of service in the White House for President George W. Bush. I talked about my long record of advancing and promoting women, including as a judge—a majority of my 48 law clerks have been women—and as a longtime coach of girls’ basketball teams.
As I explained that night, a good judge must be an umpire—a neutral and impartial arbiter who favors no political party, litigant or policy. As Justice Kennedy has stated, judges do not make decisions to reach a preferred result. Judges make decisions because the law and the Constitution compel the result. Over the past 12 years, I have ruled sometimes for the prosecution and sometimes for criminal defendants, sometimes for workers and sometimes for businesses, sometimes for environmentalists and sometimes for coal miners. In each case, I have followed the law. I do not decide cases based on personal or policy preferences. I am not a pro-plaintiff or pro-defendant judge. I am not a pro-prosecution or pro-defense judge. I am a pro-law judge.
As Justice Kennedy showed us, a judge must be independent, not swayed by public pressure. Our independent judiciary is the crown jewel of our constitutional republic. The Supreme Court is the last line of defense for the separation of powers, and for the rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution.
The Supreme Court must never be viewed as a partisan institution. The justices do not sit on opposite sides of an aisle. They do not caucus in separate rooms. As I have said repeatedly, if confirmed to the court, I would be part of a team of nine, committed to deciding cases according to the Constitution and laws of the United States. I would always strive to be a team player.
During the confirmation process, I met with 65 senators and explained my approach to the law. I participated in more than 30 hours of hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I submitted written answers to nearly 1,300 additional questions. I was grateful for the opportunity.
After all those meetings and after my initial hearing concluded, I was subjected to wrongful and sometimes vicious allegations. My time in high school and college, more than 30 years ago, has been ridiculously distorted. My wife and daughters have faced vile and violent threats.
Against that backdrop, I testified before the Judiciary Committee last Thursday to defend my family, my good name and my lifetime of public service. My hearing testimony was forceful and passionate. That is because I forcefully and passionately denied the allegation against me. At times, my testimony—both in my opening statement and in response to questions—reflected my overwhelming frustration at being wrongly accused, without corroboration, of horrible conduct completely contrary to my record and character. My statement and answers also reflected my deep distress at the unfairness of how this allegation has been handled.
I was very emotional last Thursday, more so than I have ever been. I might have been too emotional at times. I know that my tone was sharp, and I said a few things I should not have said. I hope everyone can understand that I was there as a son, husband and dad. I testified with five people foremost in my mind: my mom, my dad, my wife, and most of all my daughters.
Going forward, you can count on me to be the same kind of judge and person I have been for my entire 28-year legal career: hardworking, even-keeled, open-minded, independent and dedicated to the Constitution and the public good. As a judge, I have always treated colleagues and litigants with the utmost respect. I have been known for my courtesy on and off the bench. I have not changed. I will continue to be the same kind of judge I have been for the last 12 years. And I will continue to contribute to our country as a coach, volunteer, and teacher. Every day I will try to be the best husband, dad, and friend I can be. I will remain optimistic, on the sunrise side of the mountain. I will continue to see the day that is coming, not the day that is gone.
I revere the Constitution. I believe that an independent and impartial judiciary is essential to our constitutional republic. If confirmed by the Senate to serve on the Supreme Court, I will keep an open mind in every case and always strive to preserve the Constitution of the United States and the American rule of law.
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Post by megop on Oct 5, 2018 2:51:38 GMT
Honest to goodness. Seriously? An Op-Ed? I wouldn't have dreamed it in 1000 years.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2018 3:01:44 GMT
wsj.com I Am an Independent, Impartial Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh Thank you and I even had the wrong newspaper..............
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Post by tara on Oct 5, 2018 3:31:36 GMT
It was Tara herself who said that when Trump won the election she had to see your therapist to up the dosage of meds. I relied on her own words about her own emotional and mental wellbeing. If that was a stupid basis on which to form an opinion, ok. Lesson learned. If you ever make a statement about yourself, I will consider it a stupid basis upon which to form an opinion about you. I was going to let this drop but I do have to say this. Depression and Suicides run in my family. I have an aunt and an uncle who have killed themselves and several cousins who have tried. Im not ashamed of it. In fact I’m an open book about it. I would like to think people can come to me for advice or just to listen to them and understand. I also have an illness that people who have it are 10 times more likely to kill themselves. I also have 3 adopted kids. Adopted kids are 4 times more likely to kill themselves. So I take mental health very seriously. Anything can trigger a downward spiral. And depression isn’t always “bawling your eyes out.” Mine makes me into a zombie or like I’m living in a fog. I’m not really directing this to Lauren per say but it’s an important message and it’s important to clear up misconceptions.
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Post by thundergal on Oct 5, 2018 3:37:34 GMT
Why the OpEd? Is he/are they worried?
The only R That i think might vote no is Murkowski. She’s getting a ton of pressure from her constituents
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 5, 2018 3:47:20 GMT
and another one from the Editorial Board of the NYT...
Everyone is screaming no.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 5, 2018 5:09:56 GMT
and another one from the Editorial Board of the NYT...
Everyone is screaming no.
I sure hope some of those Republicans are listening and do the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 9:57:17 GMT
I'm still not convinced though that the Senate will achieve a 51 confirmation vote. While voting Republicans may vote pocket books, Senators are typically all about keeping their office. With a 51/49 Senate, I don't believe it is a done deal by any stretch. I can only imagine the convos and pressure being applied to some of members right now. THAT is what makes my heart hurt. I have to assume there is some way wheeling and dealing going on beyond a SCOTUS vote right now. Agreed 100%! But I sure as hell wouldn’t trust a ONE of these snake oil salespeople!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 10:03:24 GMT
Knowing that there are people here who feel no qualms about attacking a victim of a sexual assault - a complete stranger that they don't even know - just because "their guy" looks bad because of it - really makes me question whether or not I belong here. The path that we are heading down - accepting a lower and lower bar for behavior we expect from our leaders, using cages to lock up children because they don't have right papers, mocking private citizens because they disagree with us politically (the Khan family, Dr. Ford, and more) - this is not the path I care to travel down. This is not the group I wish to be associated with. You do belong here as do most of us. ABSOLUTELY! Your insight into the Russia stuff has been invaluable! pyccku YOU were talking about it before the media even really started picking it up. You have added so much to our understanding!
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