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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 13:12:56 GMT
linkI wondered about this.. “ Wyden, Markey, Merkley Question White House Use of Air Force One and Other Taxpayer Resources for Campaign Events”
“Washington, D.C. – U.S. Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., Ed Markey, D-Mass., and Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., questioned whether the president has fully repaid taxpayers for his use of government resources to conduct political and campaign events, in a letter sent to the White House today. The senators noted that Donald Trump has specifically called for the election of political candidates in events in Illinois, Missouri and Florida that were designated as official, non-campaign activities. Federal law requires the president to reimburse taxpayers for use of government resources on behalf of political candidates. “It is essential that taxpayer dollars are not used to subsidize partisan political activities and that the White House comply with all laws and regulations that govern payment of expenses associated with President’s travel,” the senators wrote. The senators asked the White House to respond to the following questions by November 7, 2018: 1. Please provide copies of any White House policies, procedures, or guidance related to the payment of expenses associated with President’s travel for mixed official and political purposes, including how specific travel costs are determined to be official or political in character. 2. Has the White House retroactively sought payments for the portions of official or mixed travel that was political in character? If so, please list the events for which reimbursements were received, the party or candidate campaign committees which made reimbursements, and the reimbursements amounts. 3. In instances when the White House has retroactively sought payments, please provide any records, including but not limited to, trip proposals, reports, memos, spreadsheets, invoices, bills, pre-payment estimates, wire transfers, or other documentation, sufficient to substantiate any characterization of the President’s travel political or official. 4. Please identify the specific travel accounts maintained by the Office of Administration that have received pre-payments or reimbursements for the President’s political travel. 5. Has the White House provided guidance to agencies on how to retroactively seek payments for the portions of official or mixed travel that was political in character? If so, how were agencies advised to calculate costs such as travel costs and salaries of staff, including advance staff, per diems, and other incidental expenses incurred by federal employees that cannot be paid for using appropriated funds. 6. Has the White House received any advice or guidance from the Department of Justice, Federal Election Commission, or the Office of Special Counsel related to the payment of expenses associated with President’s travel for mixed official and political purposes? If so, please describe this advice or guidance.” There is more to the letter in the linked article.
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Oct 28, 2018 13:40:33 GMT
This thought actually crossed my mind a few days ago. I wasn't sure what former presidents have done when campaigning for candidates of their party for re/election in terms of transportation/reimbursement. Maybe I wasn't paying as much attention before, but it feels like he's at campaign rallies (or golfing) more than at the W.H. than previous presidents.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 13:43:36 GMT
The Hill...
“JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “
Good luck with that. Stupid fools.
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Post by lindas on Oct 28, 2018 14:00:12 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 14:05:26 GMT
Maggie Haberman...
“The president, explaining why he is keeping his schedule, said the NYSE re-opened the day after 9/11 attacks. It was actually six days later.”
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“Reupping- the president falsely said NY stock exchange rebounded five days faster than it did after worst terror attack on US soil to explain his decision to do a political rally the night of a mass murder of Jews at a synagogue”
What does the stock market have to do with his decision to go to a “massage his ego” rally”? Never mind that he couldn’t get the facts right.
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Post by PLurker on Oct 28, 2018 14:13:26 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. Ironic, sad and stupid coming from Mr can't keep it in his pants.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 14:21:56 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
That is a good question on who pays. I believe previous presidents have followed the rules or the other side would have been all over it, especially when it came to President Obama. But with trump, he ignores the “rules” as in his mind rules are for other people. My guess he is lettting the tax payer pay for his little trips. Having said that, if he actually responds to the letter proving the tax payer is not paying for the cost of getting him to these rallies then I will be pleasantly surprised. But I’m not holding my breath because we are talking about trump.
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Post by lindas on Oct 28, 2018 14:29:29 GMT
There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
That is a good question on who pays. I believe previous presidents have followed the rules or the other side would have been all over it, especially when it came to President Obama. But with trump, he ignores the “rules” as in his mind rules are for other people. My guess he is lettting the tax payer pay for his little trips. Having said that, if he actually responds to the letter proving the tax payer is not paying for the cost of getting him to these rallies then I will be pleasantly surprised. But I’m not holding my breath because we are talking about trump. You do realize that this isn't Trump's personal responsibility to make the necessary reimbursement any more than it was for Obama or Bush or Clinton, etc to do. Blaming the sitting president personally, whoever it happens to be at the time, is a stretch.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2018 14:29:41 GMT
“JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? Yes, abstinence can prevent pregnancy and if 'used' 100% properly does the job. He wants abstinence to be the only way. But we are talking teenagers here who are not always in the best thinking mode, oops. Can't happen to me. Doesn't happen the first time..... YES it does!! Let us not cover birth control, let us cut medical coverage to no coverage! Pro-birth advocates cut everything that is needed after birth, no medical coverage, take away food stamps, cut rental assistance, who needs a decent place to live......... even if rental assistance is available, child care is gone..... lead a great life with nothing!! The teen birth rate is highest in the bible belt/southern states......... I cannot find the chart that show it at this time!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 14:54:49 GMT
That is a good question on who pays. I believe previous presidents have followed the rules or the other side would have been all over it, especially when it came to President Obama. But with trump, he ignores the “rules” as in his mind rules are for other people. My guess he is lettting the tax payer pay for his little trips. Having said that, if he actually responds to the letter proving the tax payer is not paying for the cost of getting him to these rallies then I will be pleasantly surprised. But I’m not holding my breath because we are talking about trump. You do realize that this isn't Trump's personal responsibility to make the necessary reimbursement any more than it was for Obama or Bush or Clinton, etc to do. Blaming the sitting president personally, whoever it happens to be at the time, is a stretch. Any staffer or those responsible for adhering to the rules or norms, whatever you want to call it , are guided by what the President says or wants. Talk to the woman who had to explain to Congress why the FBI plans for a new headquarters were scuttled and her evasive answer to the question did trump have anything to do with the change of plans. It seems on the location of the current FBI Headquarters, once vacated a developer plan to build among other things a hotel that would be in direct competition with trump’s DC hotel. Like a block away. There are pictures of her talking to trump in The Oval Office. Again if The White Hiuse responds to the letter (is this better than just saying trump) and we find out they adhered to the rules concerning this then I will be pleasantly surprised. But it is trump....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 15:08:04 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
Back to the shifting funds. There was a story attached to the tweet and I was pleasantly surprised you asked about it. So I went looking for the tweet to link the story. I couldn’t find it, even went to their twitter site and no tweet. So I googled it. Yes trump & company shifted the funds this past spring and was promptly taken to court. Those suing have had some success. There multiple stories about it so rather than pick one, I decided if you were interested you could google and pick your own one to read. Back to The Hill and the tweet, near as I can figure it was an old tweet that popped up in my timeline this morning and has since been deleted. As to abstinence programs. We are talking about teenagers here and there has been success with the Teen Prevention programs. So why move the funds from what is working?
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Post by katybee on Oct 28, 2018 15:28:56 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? Look at Texas! We have abstinence only sex education and one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country! And the HIGHEST repeat teen pregnancy rate. So proud! Teens have to have parental permission to get birth control. And we’re pretty much eliminating safe access to abortions, and of course minors need parental permission. So let’s recap... 1. We’re not going to teach you about EFFECTIVE birth control. 2. We’re not going to let you get birth control, unless you ask your parents. 3. We’re not going to let you get an abortion unless you ask your parents, and even then, we’re gonna make it REALLY, REALLY hard. 4. Here’s the kicker... we HATE welfare... so we’re going to slash food assistance programs, children’s health care, and early childcare education budgets every chance we get. So, basically, young girls in Texas just need to accept the fact that sex is dirty and stop being promiscuous whores. You belong to your father until you get married, and then you belong to your husband. (Please note—boys do NOT have to follow these same rules).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 15:48:42 GMT
Bill Kristol...
“Any death of this sort is a tragedy. Any shooting involving multiple victims is a tragedy. There is something particularly heartbreaking about the death happening in a place in which we seek solace and we seek peace, in a place of worship." -- President Obama, June 18, 2015”
Jennifer Rubin....
“You comprehend just how much better was every previous president when these atrocities occur. Clinton at Oklahoma City, Bush on 9/11, Obama in Arizona and elsewhere were superb when the country needed them. I don't want to see Trump's face or hear his voice. He makes it worse.”
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2018 15:51:17 GMT
There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? 😂 Look at Texas! We have abstinence only sex education and one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country! And the HIGHEST repeat teen pregnancy rate. So proud! Teens have to have parental permission to get birth control. And we’re pretty much eliminating safe access to abortions, and of course minors need parental permission. So let’s recap... 1. We’re not going to teach you about EFFECTIVE birth control. 2. We’re not going to let you get birth control, unless you ask your parents. 3. We’re not going to let you get an abortion unless you ask your parents, and even then, we’re gonna make it REALLY, REALLY hard. 4. Here’s the kicker... we HATE welfare... so we’re going to slash food assistance programs, children’s health care, and early childcare education budgets every chance we get. So, basically, young girls in Texas just need to accept the fact that sex is dirty and stop being promiscuous whores. You belong to your father until you get married, and then you belong to your husband. (Please note—boys do NOT have to follow these same rules). Amen. I will say this as a mom of teen girls in Texas. We had no difficulty getting long acting birth control for my oldest - she was able to go to our doctor’s office herself and I didn’t need to sign anything. She is 17. And we know from experience that her underage friends have had not difficulty getting the morning after pill from a pharmacy. I’m not sure what the law is regarding age at this point, but teens in Houston are at least having no difficulty getting contraception.
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Post by wellway on Oct 28, 2018 16:09:21 GMT
In England and Wales the teen pregnancy rate has halved in the last twenty years and is now at its lowest level since the sixties. If interested, this article discusses some of the reasons. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43506784
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Post by katybee on Oct 28, 2018 17:01:30 GMT
😂 Look at Texas! We have abstinence only sex education and one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country! And the HIGHEST repeat teen pregnancy rate. So proud! Teens have to have parental permission to get birth control. And we’re pretty much eliminating safe access to abortions, and of course minors need parental permission. So let’s recap... 1. We’re not going to teach you about EFFECTIVE birth control. 2. We’re not going to let you get birth control, unless you ask your parents. 3. We’re not going to let you get an abortion unless you ask your parents, and even then, we’re gonna make it REALLY, REALLY hard. 4. Here’s the kicker... we HATE welfare... so we’re going to slash food assistance programs, children’s health care, and early childcare education budgets every chance we get. So, basically, young girls in Texas just need to accept the fact that sex is dirty and stop being promiscuous whores. You belong to your father until you get married, and then you belong to your husband. (Please note—boys do NOT have to follow these same rules). Amen. I will say this as a mom of teen girls in Texas. We had no difficulty getting long acting birth control for my oldest - she was able to go to our doctor’s office herself and I didn’t need to sign anything. She is 17. And we know from experience that her underage friends have had not difficulty getting the morning after pill from a pharmacy. I’m not sure what the law is regarding age at this point, but teens in Houston are at least having no difficulty getting contraception. I’m glad to hear that. But the law is supposed to require parental consent for minors unless you are married or emancipated. I’m glad to hear there are some rebel doctors/pharmacists out there. I would imagine it’s not quite so easy in more rural, conservative areas. And I think Planned Parenthood probably follows the law EXACTLY, because God knows what would happen if they didn’t. I’m thinking it would involve hidden cameras and FOX news. This is from the PP website: In Texas, some minors (under the age of 18) are required to obtain consent (click to print consent form in English or Spanish) from a parent or guardian before receiving certain medical services at our health centers. In Texas, we CAN provide the following to a minor without parental consent: Condoms Contraceptive foam or film Information about birth control Pregnancy tests Diagnosis and treatment for certain sexually transmitted diseases In Texas, we CANNOT provide the following to a minor without parental consent: Preventive Care Visit Pap Test Urinary Tract Infection Prescriptive Birth Control (pills, shot, implant, IUD) In Texas, you DO NOT need to have your parent/guardian sign a consent if: You are on Medicaid. You are 16 or 17 and live apart from your parents and manage your own finances. You will be asked to sign a form stating that these are your living arrangements. You are emancipated. Your parent(s)/guardian cannot be contacted. This means that you do not know how to contact your parents/guardian (you don't know where they live or you are unable to contact them). This does not apply if you just don't want your parents/guardian to be contacted. If your parent or guardian cannot be contacted another adult grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother or sister may sign a consent form for you (print consent form in English or Spanish).
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2018 17:17:21 GMT
Amen. I will say this as a mom of teen girls in Texas. We had no difficulty getting long acting birth control for my oldest - she was able to go to our doctor’s office herself and I didn’t need to sign anything. She is 17. And we know from experience that her underage friends have had not difficulty getting the morning after pill from a pharmacy. I’m not sure what the law is regarding age at this point, but teens in Houston are at least having no difficulty getting contraception. I’m glad to hear that. But the law is supposed to require parental consent for minors unless you are married or emancipated. I’m glad to hear there are some rebel doctors/pharmacists out there. I would imagine it’s not quite so easy in more rural, conservative areas. And I think Planned Parenthood probably follows the law EXACTLY, because God knows what would happen if they didn’t. I’m thinking it would involve hidden cameras and FOX news. This is from the PP website: In Texas, some minors (under the age of 18) are required to obtain consent (click to print consent form in English or Spanish) from a parent or guardian before receiving certain medical services at our health centers. In Texas, we CAN provide the following to a minor without parental consent: Condoms Contraceptive foam or film Information about birth control Pregnancy tests Diagnosis and treatment for certain sexually transmitted diseases In Texas, we CANNOT provide the following to a minor without parental consent: Preventive Care Visit Pap Test Urinary Tract Infection Prescriptive Birth Control (pills, shot, implant, IUD) In Texas, you DO NOT need to have your parent/guardian sign a consent if: You are on Medicaid. You are 16 or 17 and live apart from your parents and manage your own finances. You will be asked to sign a form stating that these are your living arrangements. You are emancipated. Your parent(s)/guardian cannot be contacted. This means that you do not know how to contact your parents/guardian (you don't know where they live or you are unable to contact them). This does not apply if you just don't want your parents/guardian to be contacted. If your parent or guardian cannot be contacted another adult grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother or sister may sign a consent form for you (print consent form in English or Spanish). Interesting!
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 28, 2018 17:22:16 GMT
That is a good question on who pays. I believe previous presidents have followed the rules or the other side would have been all over it, especially when it came to President Obama. But with trump, he ignores the “rules” as in his mind rules are for other people. My guess he is lettting the tax payer pay for his little trips. Having said that, if he actually responds to the letter proving the tax payer is not paying for the cost of getting him to these rallies then I will be pleasantly surprised. But I’m not holding my breath because we are talking about trump. You do realize that this isn't Trump's personal responsibility to make the necessary reimbursement any more than it was for Obama or Bush or Clinton, etc to do. Blaming the sitting president personally, whoever it happens to be at the time, is a stretch. It is his and his campaign’s responsibility to ensure that reimbursements are happening. So yes, I will blame him if he is not properly reimbursing for campaign activities. I don’t get the idea that Trump isn’t responsible for things — from reimbursements to what comes out of his mouth. It’s baffling to me the lengths people go to in order to excuse this President.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 17:28:18 GMT
It comments like this that define trump and his presidency..
trump...
“Just watched Wacky Tom Steyer, who I have not seen in action before, be interviewed by @jaketapper. He comes off as a crazed & stumbling lunatic who should be running out of money pretty soon. As bad as their field is, if he is running for President, the Dems will eat him alive!”
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 28, 2018 18:11:59 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! The ONLY things this will accomplish is an increased teen pregnancy rate, an increase in legal (and possibly illegal/dangerous) abortions depending on the status of Roe v. Wade, and possibly an increase in poorly educated American citizens. Fucking idiots. Maybe we can get back to finding things that are actually promoting positive changes in this country. You know, things that are supported by fucking data and science.
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 28, 2018 18:15:44 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
Abstinence only programs do nothing to help stem the teen pregnancy rate. Because teenagers are horny, and they are going to have sex. Grown ups can shout “abstinence only!” Until they are blue in the face. But the data does not show a correlation between abstinence only programs and a decrease in teen pregnancy rates.
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Post by coffeetalk on Oct 28, 2018 18:50:16 GMT
It comments like this that define trump and his presidency.. trump... “Just watched Wacky Tom Steyer, who I have not seen in action before, be interviewed by @jaketapper. He comes off as a crazed & stumbling lunatic who should be running out of money pretty soon. As bad as their field is, if he is running for President, the Dems will eat him alive!” Tom Steyer @tomsteyer .@realdonaldtrump just tweeted at me in his typical insulting style after watching @cnnsotu. It is unthinkable that in the midst of the horrible political violence our president would resort to name-calling instead of repairing the damage to the fabric of our country. @jonfavs Jon Favreau Retweeted Donald J. Trump The President attacks an American who was the target of a mail bombing last week as a “crazed lunatic.” Does any Republican want to defend this? Anyone? This is vile. This is disgusting. This has to stop.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 28, 2018 19:12:37 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? As to the OP, I wonder if the republicans sent the same type of letter when Obama hit the campaign trail so heavily. My understanding is that the RNC and/or the local campaign but it's seem to be a well guarded secret has to how much. Who pays
When it comes to teens, abstinence programs are the worst form of pregnancy preventiontion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 21:26:21 GMT
linkFrom the Atlantic.. “Trump’s Caravan Hysteria Led to This”
On Tuesday, October 16, President Trump started tweeting. “The United States has strongly informed the President of Honduras that if the large Caravan of people heading to the U.S. is not stopped and brought back to Honduras, no more money or aid will be given to Honduras, effective immediately!”
" We have today informed the countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador that if they allow their citizens, or others, to journey through their borders and up to the United States, with the intention of entering our country illegally, all payments made to them will STOP (END)!," Vice President Mike Pence also tweeted: Spoke to President Hernandez of Honduras about the migrant caravan heading to the U.S. Delivered strong message from @potus: no more aid if caravan is not stopped. Told him U.S. will not tolerate this blatant disregard for our border & sovereignty,"
The apparent impetus for this outrage was a segment on Fox News that morning, which detailed a migrant caravan thousands of miles away in Honduras. That caravan began sometime in mid-October, made up of refugees fleeing violence in their home country. Over the next few weeks, Trump would do his best to turn the caravan into a national emergency. Trump falsely told his supporters that there were “criminals and unknown middle easterners” in the caravan, a claim that had no basis in fact, which was meant to imply that terrorists were hiding in the caravan—one falsehood placed upon another. Defense Secretary James Mattis ordered more troops to the border. A Fox News host took it upon herself to ask Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen whether there was “any scenario under which if people force their way across the border they could be shot at,” to which Nielsen responded, “we do not have any intention right now to shoot at people.” Pence told Fox News on Friday that “What the president of Honduras told me is that the caravan was organized by leftist organizations, political activists within Honduras, and he said it was being funded by outside groups, and even from Venezuela … So the American people, I think, see through this—they understand this is not a spontaneous caravan of vulnerable people.” The Department of Homeland Security’s Twitter account “confirmed” that within the caravan there were people who are “gang members or have significant criminal histories,” without offering evidence of any such ties. Trump sought to blame the opposition party for the caravan’s existence. “Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws!” Trump tweeted on October 22. “Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.” In the right-wing fever swamps, where the president’s every word is worshipped, commenters began amplifying Trump’s exhortations with new details. Representative Matt Gaetz wondered if George Soros—the wealthy Jewish philanthropist whom Trump and several members of the U.S. Senate blamed for the protests against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and who was recently targeted with a bomb—was behind the migrant caravan. NRATV, the propaganda organ of the National Rifle Association, linked two Republican obsessions, voter fraud and immigration. Chuck Holton told NRATV’s viewers that Soros was sending the caravan to the United States so the migrants could vote: “It’s telling that a bevy of left-wing groups are partnering with a Hungarian-born billionaire and the Venezuelan government to try to influence the 2018 midterms by sending Honduran migrants north in the thousands.” On CNN, the conservative commentator Matt Schlapp asked pointedly, “Who's paying for the caravan? Alisyn, who's paying for the caravan?,” before later answering his own question: “Because of the liberal judges and other people that intercede, including George Soros, we have too much chaos at our southern border.” On Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show, a guest said “these individuals are not immigrants. These are people that are invading our country,” as another guest asserted they were seeking “the destruction of American society and culture.” In the meantime, much of the mainstream press abetted Trump’s effort to make the midterm election a referendum on the caravan. Popular news podcasts devoted entire episodes to the caravan. It remained on the front pages of major media websites. It was an overwhelming topic of conversation on cable news, where Trumpists freely spread disinformation about the threat the migrants posed, while news anchors displayed exasperation over their false claims, only to invite them back on the next day’s newscast to do it all over again. In reality, the caravan was thousands of miles and weeks away from the U.S. border, shrinking in size, and unlikely to reach the U.S. before the election. If the migrants reach the U.S., they have the right under U.S. law to apply for asylum at a port of entry. If their claims are not accepted, they will be turned away. There is no national emergency, there is no ominous threat. There is only a group of desperate people looking for a better life, who have a right to request asylum in the United States, and have no right to stay if their claims are rejected. Trump is reportedly aware that his claims about the caravan are false. An administration official told the Daily Beast simply, “it doesn’t matter if it’s 100 percent accurate … this is the play.” The "play" was to demonize vulnerable people with falsehoods in order to frighten Trump's base to the polls. Nevertheless, some took the claims of the president and his allies seriously. On Saturday morning, Shabbat morning, a gunman walked into the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and killed 11 people. The massacre capped off a week of terrorism, in which one man mailed bombs to nearly a dozen Trump critics, and another killed two black people in a grocery store after failing to force his way into a black church. Prior to committing the Tree of Life massacre, the shooter, who blamed Jews for the caravan of “invaders” and who raged about it on social media, made it clear that he was furious at HIAS, founded as the Hebew Immigrant Aid Society, a Jewish group that helps resettle refugees in the United States. He shared posts on Gab, a social-media site popular with the alt-right, expressing alarm at the sight of “massive human caravans of young men from Honduras and El Salvador invading America thru our unsecured southern border.” And then he wrote, “HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I’m going in.” The people killed on Saturday were killed for trying to make the world a better place, as their faith exhorts them to do. The history of the Jewish people is one of displacement, statelessness, and persecution. What groups like HIAS do in helping refugees, they do with the knowledge that comes from a history of being the targets of demagogues who persecute minorities in pursuit of power. Ordinarily, a politician cannot be held responsible for the actions of a deranged follower. But ordinarily, politicians don’t praise supporters who have mercilessly beaten a Latino man, as “very passionate.” Ordinarily, they don’t offer to pay supporters’ legal bills if they assault protesters on the other side. They don’t praise acts of violence against the media. They don’t defend Nazi rioters as “fine people.” They don’t justify sending bombs to their critics by blaming the media for airing criticism. Ordinarily, there is no historic surge in anti-Semitism, much of it targeted at Jewish critics, coinciding with a politician’s rise. And ordinarily, presidents do not blatantly exploit their authority in an effort to terrify white Americans into voting for their party. For the past few decades, most American politicians, Republican and Democrat alike, have taken care not to urge their supporters to take matters into their own hands. Trump did everything he could to fan the flames, and nothing to restrain those who might take him at his word. Many of Trump’s defenders argue that his rhetoric is mere shtick. That his attacks, however cruel, aren’t taken 100 percent seriously by his supporters. But to make this argument is to concede that following Trump’s statements to their logical conclusion could lead to violence against his targets, and it is only because most do not take it that way, that the political violence committed on Trump’s behalf is as limited as it currently is. The Tree of Life shooter criticized Trump for not being racist or anti-Semitic enough. But with respect to the caravan, the shooter merely followed the logic of the president and his allies: He was willing to do whatever was necessary to prevent an “invasion” of Latinos planned by perfidious Jews, a treasonous attempt to seek “the destruction of American society and culture.” The apparent spark for the worst anti-Semitic massacre in American history was a racist hoax inflamed by a U.S. president seeking to help his party win a midterm election. There is no political gesture, no public statement, and no alteration in rhetoric or behavior that will change this fact. The shooter might have found a different reason to act on a different day. But he chose to act on Saturday, and he apparently chose to act in response to a political fiction that the president himself chose to spread, and that his followers chose to amplify. As for those who aided the president in his propaganda campaign, who enabled him to prey on racist fears to fabricate a national emergency, those who said to themselves, “This is the play”? Every single one of them bears some responsibility for what followed. Their condemnations of antisemitism are meaningless. Their thoughts and prayers are worthless. Their condolences are irrelevant. They can never undo what they have done, and what they have done will never be forgotten.”
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Post by jayfab on Oct 28, 2018 22:22:37 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 28, 2018 22:49:25 GMT
The Hill... “JUST IN: Trump to shift federal funding for teen pregnancy prevention to abstinence-focused programs “ Good luck with that. Stupid fools. NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! The ONLY things this will accomplish is an increased teen pregnancy rate, an increase in legal (and possibly illegal/dangerous) abortions depending on the status of Roe v. Wade, and possibly an increase in poorly educated American citizens. Fucking idiots. Maybe we can get back to finding things that are actually promoting positive changes in this country. You know, things that are supported by fucking data and science. That’s all coming from the Pence camp. The ones who want to “take back the country for Christ.”🙄
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 0:35:34 GMT
trump...
“The Fake News is doing everything in their power to blame Republicans, Conservatives and me for the division and hatred that has been going on for so long in our Country. Actually, it is their Fake & Dishonest reporting which is causing problems far greater than they understand!”
The Proud Boys Rise Above Movement
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 29, 2018 0:38:28 GMT
There has to be more to the story than just this quote. Wouldn't abstinence be one way to prevent teen pregnancy? Look at Texas! We have abstinence only sex education and one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country! And the HIGHEST repeat teen pregnancy rate. So proud! Teens have to have parental permission to get birth control. And we’re pretty much eliminating safe access to abortions, and of course minors need parental permission. So let’s recap... 1. We’re not going to teach you about EFFECTIVE birth control. 2. We’re not going to let you get birth control, unless you ask your parents. 3. We’re not going to let you get an abortion unless you ask your parents, and even then, we’re gonna make it REALLY, REALLY hard. 4. Here’s the kicker... we HATE welfare... so we’re going to slash food assistance programs, children’s health care, and early childcare education budgets every chance we get. So, basically, young girls in Texas just need to accept the fact that sex is dirty and stop being promiscuous whores. You belong to your father until you get married, and then you belong to your husband. (Please note—boys do NOT have to follow these same rules). Counterproductive and just plain dumb.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 29, 2018 1:11:29 GMT
Someone has courage!! Jewish leaders tell Trump he's not welcome in Pittsburgh until he denounces white nationalismBY MORGAN GSTALTER - 10/28/18 07:01 PM EDT A group of Jewish leaders told President Trump that he is no longer welcome in Pittsburgh until he denounces white nationalism following the shooting at a synagogue there over the weekend. Eleven members of the Pittsburgh affiliate of Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice penned a letter to Trump following the Saturday shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue. “Our Jewish community is not the only group you have targeted,” the group wrote. “You have also deliberately undermined the safety of people of color, Muslims, LGBTQ people, and people with disabilities. Yesterday’s massacre is not the first act of terror you incited against a minority group in our country.” Trump was fiercely criticized after he failed to condemn white supremacy and asserted that there is “blame on both sides” after last year’s white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va. The group also said Trump is not welcome in the city until he also stops targeting minorities, immigrants and refugees. thehill.com/homenews/administration/413558-jewish-leaders-say-trumps-not-welcome-in-pittsburgh-until-he
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Oct 29, 2018 2:27:38 GMT
Most hockey players are decent guys. I’ve only known a few who weren’t. Pretty much all of them would make a better president since they understand the concepts of discipline, teamwork, sportsmanship and respect. They also know that you can’t win the game by yourself, so you let your teammates contribute to make the team better as a whole. Trump is the idiot who thinks he’s the only one who knows how to play, so he goes end to end and never passes, even though his teammate was wide open. Those teams may get a goal or two, but they never win the cup.
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