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Post by Olan on Nov 11, 2018 17:05:04 GMT
"We do so much in this country to celebrate and honor folks who risk their lives on the battlefield,” Stevenson told me recently. “But we don’t remember that black veterans were more likely to be attacked for their service than honored for it.” To be a soldier is to receive training in weapons, in organizations, in tactics: the skills of self-assertion. It is also to lay claim to the reverence that America sets aside for its former warriors. For these reasons, the return home of black soldiers after war has infuriated and terrified white America, setting the stage for reactionary aggression." When the Civil War broke out, the Union was reluctant to let black soldiers fight at all, citing concerns over white soldiers’ morale and the respect that black soldiers would feel entitled to when the war ended. But, as the Union death toll increased, the skeptics relented. By war’s end, almost two hundred thousand black men had enlisted. This is widely known today, thanks in large part to works of art like the 1989 film “Glory.” Unfortunately, less cultural bandwidth has been devoted to what happened to those black troops after the fighting stopped. Few high-school or college students, when they learn about military history, learn about the lynching of black veterans. In 1877, when Reconstruction ended, black veterans living in Southern states quickly became targets for white violence. White newspapers spread rumors of black soldiers assaulting white police. States across the South prohibited blacks from handling weapons. Compared to those who had not served, former soldiers were disproportionately assaulted, driven from their homes, and, in the most extreme cases, lynched in public. “Targeting Black Veterans” traces this trend in coolly objective prose, occasionally detailing shocking examples. “At Bardstown in Nelson County, Kentucky, a mob brutally lynched a United States Colored Troops veteran,” we learn. “The mob stripped him of his clothes, beat him, and then cut off his sexual organs. He was then forced to run half a mile to a bridge outside of town, where he was shot and killed.” When the First World War broke out, black thinkers and writers debated the merits of signing up to fight for a country that functionally denied them full citizenship. Three hundred and eighty thousand black men heeded W. E. B. Du Bois’s call to enlist in the segregated Army, many of them hoping that doing so would increase the standing of blacks on the home front. But for much of white America, front-line military service by blacks undercut the claims of racial superiority around which their lives—and their economies—were structured. In a speech on the Senate floor in 1917, Mississippi Senator James K. Vardaman warned that the return of black veterans to the South would “inevitably lead to disaster.” Once you “impress the negro with the fact that he is defending the flag” and “inflate his untutored soul with military airs,” Vardaman cautioned, it was a short step to the conclusion that “his political rights must be respected.” After the Armistice, black veterans returning home were greeted not with recognition of their civil rights but, instead, with an intense wave of discrimination and hostility. Whites speculated that, while stationed in Europe, black soldiers had enjoyed wartime liaisons with white French women, increasing their lust—which, in the white imagination, was already dangerously high—for sex with white American women. Many black veterans were denied the benefits and disability pay they’d been promised. In the first summer after the war, known as the Red Summer, anti-black riots erupted in more than twenty American cities, including Houston, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. “This is the right time to show them what will and what will not be permitted, and thus save them much trouble in the future,” one Louisiana newspaper opined, in an editorial titled “Nip It In the Bud.” In the years after the war, at least thirteen black veterans were lynched. Countless more survived beatings, shootings, and whippings. As E.J.I. staff examined these attacks in detail, they noticed that, often, the only provocation was a black man’s insistence on wearing his uniform in public. “It’s really shocking,” Stevenson said. “Just the sight of a black soldier, just the suggestion that he might take on that empowered, adult, mature identity—that could get him killed.” And yet 1.2 million black men enlisted during the Second World War—a display of commitment to, and faith in, America that is as moving as it is mind-boggling. Initially, these men were barred from combat, and instead assigned to service duties such as cleaning white officers’ quarters and latrines. Just as in the Civil War, only mounting casualties convinced the generals to allow black soldiers the privilege of risking their lives on the front line. And just as in the First World War, a vast chasm quickly sprang up between wartime rhetoric and wartime reality. Black soldiers stationed at military bases in the segregated South were forbidden from eating in restaurants that opened their doors to German prisoners of war. After the war, multiple veterans were attacked almost immediately, often by drivers or fellow-passengers on the buses and trains transporting them back to their homes. Many more soon realized that the G.I. Bill had been constructed in such a way that most of its benefits—including mortgage support, college tuition, and business loans—could be denied to them. Racial violence spiked. The experience of service did boost black veterans’ sense of entitlement to basic rights. So did the more equal treatment they received, during the First and Second World Wars, from Europeans whom they met while stationed abroad. Often, military service elevated black soldiers’ sense of themselves as people more capable of pushing back. (As Du Bois put it in a 1919 Crisis editorial on the subject, “We return. We return from fighting. We return fighting.”) It is no coincidence that so many veterans, including Hosea Williams and Medgar Evers, went on to play key roles in civil-rights organizations. Reading “Targeting Black Veterans” in early November, it was almost impossible to avoid comparison to our present moment, in which the hopes of many that the election of a black President could usher in a new era of racial reconciliation have been dashed. “Historically, it was a provocation for black men to wear the uniform, to claim that role,” Stevenson said. “A black man sitting in the White House is a similar provocation. The reality of a more diverse society, with more people demanding respect, is a provocation. And Trump is the response.” Equal Justice Initiative
"Mistreatment of black soldiers and veterans was not restricted to the South. Johnson C. Whittaker, who was born into slavery in South Carolina in 1858, was appointed to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, in 1876 as one of the first black cadets in the academy’s history. On April 6, 1880, Mr. Whittaker was found unconscious and bloody on the floor of his dorm, wearing only his underwear. His legs had been bound together and tied to his bed, and his arms were tied tightly together at the wrists. He recounted that three masked white men had jumped on him while he slept, tied him up, choked him, struck him in the head, bloodied his nose, broken a mirror on his forehead, and cut his ear lobes while saying, “Let’s mark him like they do hogs down South.”30 Two days before the attack, Mr. Whittaker had received an anonymous note reading, “You will be fixed. Better keep awake.” Rather than condemn the attack, West Point administrators claimed Mr. Whittaker had staged it himself and court-martialed him. The prosecutor relied on notions of black inferiority and argued, “Negroes are noted for their ability to sham and feign.”31 Mr. Whitaker was convicted and expelled from West Point. That same decade, a mob of 50 whites from Sun River, Montana, lynched Robert Robinson, a black soldier stationed nearby at Fort Shaw.32 Mr. Robinson was a member of the 25th Infantry, an all-black unit that had been transferred to Montana from South Dakota just weeks earlier. Mr. Robinson had been arrested for allegedly shooting and killing a man. Before he could be tried, masked men entered the jail, demanded the key, took Mr. Robinson from his cell, and brought him to the alley behind Stone’s Store, where a mob lynched him and left his body hanging over the alleyway."
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Post by Olan on Nov 11, 2018 17:14:07 GMT
A monument for African American veterans is slated to begin in Spring 2019. 500,000.00 is needed to fully fund the project Donate716-800-1137 Engraved brick pavers that will line the monument walkways are available to purchase for $250. Does your military-connected family member know a black serviceman or servicewoman to honor?
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Post by flanz on Nov 11, 2018 17:17:52 GMT
Thanks for sharing, Olan. I will try to be back later to read in its entirety.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Nov 11, 2018 19:05:55 GMT
That was very hard to read. But worthwhile.
And the backlash after president Obama makes so much sense.
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Post by Olan on Nov 11, 2018 19:32:24 GMT
That was very hard to read. But worthwhile. And the backlash after president Obama makes so much sense. Thank you for taking the time out to read it. It was a difficult read for me as well. The connection between 45's election and it being reactionary has always made sense to me. The Op-Ed "The Lowest White Man" sums it up really well. www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/opinion/trump-immigration-white-supremacy.amp.html
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Post by Olan on Nov 11, 2018 20:04:54 GMT
Thanks for sharing, Olan. I will try to be back later to read in its entirety. A shorter read: Looky here, America What you done done — Let things drift Until the riots come. Now your policemen Let your mobs run free. I reckon you don’t care Nothing about me. You tell me that hitler Is a mighty bad man. I guess he took lessons From the ku klux klan. You tell me mussolini’s Got an evil heart. Well, it mus-a been in Beaumont That he had his start — Cause everything that hitler And mussolini do, Negroes get the same Treatment from you. You jim crowed me Before hitler rose to power — And you’re STILL jim crowing me Right now, this very hour. Yet you say we’re fighting For democracy. Then why don’t democracy Include me? I ask you this question Cause I want to know How long I got to fight BOTH HITLER — AND JIM CROW.
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Post by happyOCgirl on Nov 11, 2018 20:14:30 GMT
Thank you so much for the information about the bricks! I passed the information on to my Dad who is a Veteran and does a lot with the disabled Veteran's groups. He said the monument and bricks has been in a lot of e-mails he's seen. My dad said it's good to know the word is getting out about it - even on the Pea's message board! I was at Orange County Hall of Heroes/Veteran's Day yesterday. They had a 'modern' Buffalo Soldier camp set up. Re-enactors were there. They were so engaging and had a large group enthralled with their stories. I've read a lot about the Buffalo Soldiers and learned a few new things from them. They had a booth set up if people wanted to know more about their history, what they currently do (to educate), as well as future re-enactments.
We also have a lot of air shows in Southern California. The Tuskegee Airman are always the first place we visit. Their stories are beyond amazing! Their legacies are worth learning and repeating.
Yesterday was the Marine's birthday. They had a birthday cake and had a traditional cake cutting ceremony at the Hall of Heroes. The first piece went to the guest of honor, the second piece to the oldest Marine (94) who passed it to the youngest Marine (25). The speaker talked about how every Marine might not know a major holiday during combat, but they know the Marine's birthday. There was 50+ Marine's and former Marines, men and women of all races present. The speaker said "we are Marine's. Yes, we all are different ages, colors, and some have funny accents. Our differences make us stronger together." It was so very powerful to see this group, some who were in different combats and some not, interact together. Also, how they are all so proud to get a piece of the Marine's birthday cake - haha!
I hijacked your thread, Olan! I am still so full of awe and respect after yesterday, I had to share. ALL Veteran's matter.
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Post by MsKnit on Nov 11, 2018 20:46:51 GMT
Thank you for sharing!
Locally, a man has been going into schools and organizations speaking about a local soldier who was one of the Wereth 11. It took far too long for those men to be recognized and finally memorialized (2004).
There is also a surviving member of the Tuskegee Airmen locally. A few days ago was the first I heard this despite living here in the area all my life. He is finally being recognized for his service.
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Post by ginacivey on Nov 11, 2018 23:16:07 GMT
Does your military-connected family member know a black serviceman or servicewoman to honor? yes - plenty do you mean honor by purchasing a brick? or just in general? gina
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Post by Olan on Nov 12, 2018 13:46:43 GMT
Thank you for sharing! Locally, a man has been going into schools and organizations speaking about a local soldier who was one of the Wereth 11. It took far too long for those men to be recognized and finally memorialized (2004). There is also a surviving member of the Tuskegee Airmen locally. A few days ago was the first I heard this despite living here in the area all my life. He is finally being recognized for his service. Thank you MsKnit! I had never heard of the Wereth 11! I am planning travel for 2019 and the monument will definitely be on my to see list! I was able to find the surname of the Belgium family but I read somewhere a Dr. in Alabama was also responsible for the story getting more publicity as well. I wonder what his last name is? Thanks again for sharing!
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 12, 2018 18:56:13 GMT
The Montford Point Marine Association is a great organization to support. montfordpoint.org/
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Post by Olan on Oct 23, 2019 0:40:04 GMT
For posterity when someone undoubtedly complains about the bumping threads Whatever floats your boat....
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Post by msliz on Nov 10, 2019 15:22:40 GMT
Thank you for sharing these Olan
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2020 14:32:01 GMT
The Facebook page you linked below is to someone named Welby Croson, not Welby Bronson. I’m confused.
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Post by Olan on May 24, 2020 14:33:25 GMT
The Facebook page you linked below is to someone named Welby Croson, not Welby Bronson. I’m confused. From the post: Welby changed his last name to BRONSON and joined the Navy. I’m doing my part and helping it trend on black twitter. You could to. When I capitalized CROSON it autocorrected.
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2020 14:34:46 GMT
The Facebook page you linked below is to someone named Welby Croson, not Welby Bronson. I’m confused. From the post: Welby changed his last name to BRONSON and joined the Navy. I’m doing my part and helping it trend on black twitter. You could to. Then why link someone else’s Facebook page? I’m still confused. The Facebook page you linked is for someone else. Who is he?
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2020 14:35:18 GMT
This Facebook page is for someone else.
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Post by Olan on May 24, 2020 14:46:06 GMT
This Facebook page is for someone else. If you’d like to help I can assure you that the man who made the disgusting racist comment and Welby Croson are the same human being. The man linked in the Facebook profile isn’t deserving of the title he has been given. It’s especially troubling since Lt. Richard Collins didn’t get a chance to serve like he had planned. I
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2020 14:56:18 GMT
This Facebook page is for someone else. If you’d like to help I can assure you that the man who made the disgusting racist comment and Welby Cronson are the same human being. The man linked in the Facebook profile isn’t deserving of the title he has been given. It’s especially troubling since Lt. Richard Collins didn’t get a chance to serve like he had planned. I Who is Welby Cronson? You keep insisting that Welby Burgone changed his name to Welby BRONSON and then you link a Facebook page to someone else altogether - Welby Croson. When you ask people to help ruin someone’s reputation, even when it is justifiable, you must be careful with the exact names you provide and Facebook pages you link. Otherwise you cause trouble for people not involved in the issue.
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Post by Olan on May 24, 2020 15:46:43 GMT
May I make a request of the peas: In the past there has been an issue with society believing Black people when we talk about our lived experiences. It wasn’t until video phones and social media that society began to see exactly what we go through each day. I’m sure you’ve maybe seen or heard the phrase “Trust Black Women” or “Listen to Black Women” now that doesn’t mean black women are without reproach or can’t be corrected but be mindful of your tone and word choice. It’s already difficult as a black women to speak up because we are often told we are too loud or intimidating. So do your part by not silencing black women or setting them up to look defensive by attacking their credibility in front of other people. It’s harmful behavior. You may think you have something to gain but more often than not your behavior makes you look stupid and/or racist AF. Also when someone is openly racist and black folks set out to “reveal” the person for who they really are we almost always do a pretty damn good job....when you say we are attempting to ruin someone’s reputation you are misplacing blame. Welby ruined his own reputation. Honoring Lt. Richard Collins III is my goal. For the record: I followed the story closely even when the media stopped reporting and I had to do my own sleuthing. For months I called AAPD because I was pretty sure he would be given his job back. I recognize his face in and out of uniform. Maryland Judicary info is available to the public with a quick search We’ve all capitalized something and it autocorrected. The Facebook profile I linked belongs to Welby B. He is the man who made the comments following the killing of Lt. Richard Collins III www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/29/can-black-women-white-women-be-true-friends/
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Post by Olan on May 28, 2020 0:14:59 GMT
If you’d like to help I can assure you that the man who made the disgusting racist comment and Welby Cronson are the same human being. The man linked in the Facebook profile isn’t deserving of the title he has been given. It’s especially troubling since Lt. Richard Collins didn’t get a chance to serve like he had planned. I Who is Welby Cronson? You keep insisting that Welby Burgone changed his name to Welby BRONSON and then you link a Facebook page to someone else altogether - Welby Croson. When you ask people to help ruin someone’s reputation, even when it is justifiable, you must be careful with the exact names you provide and Facebook pages you link. Otherwise you cause trouble for people not involved in the issue. Welby had his father contact me and ask that I not out him. It wasn’t worded that nicely of course. Just saw it. Sent three days ago. My guess is a lot of outed racists will just change their names and go on with life as if nothing ever happened. www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/military-white-nationalists-extremists.html
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Post by elaine on May 28, 2020 0:27:16 GMT
Who is Welby Cronson? You keep insisting that Welby Burgone changed his name to Welby BRONSON and then you link a Facebook page to someone else altogether - Welby Croson. When you ask people to help ruin someone’s reputation, even when it is justifiable, you must be careful with the exact names you provide and Facebook pages you link. Otherwise you cause trouble for people not involved in the issue. Welby had his father contact me and ask that I not out him. It wasn’t worded that nicely of course. Just saw it. Sent three days ago. My guess is a lot of outed racists will just change their names and go on with life as if nothing ever happened. www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/military-white-nationalists-extremists.htmlThat is awful. I’m sorry that he felt free to try to prevent you from outing his son. I angrily think that you are correct about the name changes.
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Post by luvnlifelady on May 28, 2020 0:34:49 GMT
There is a nice memorial to the Tuskegee airmen at the Sewickley cemetery in southwestern PA. The area provided one of the biggest contingencies to the group.
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