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Post by dewryce on May 17, 2019 22:02:48 GMT
Something like this is what helped my husband “get it” when I was complaining about the all-men panel deciding on women’s health issues. I asked him how he’d feel about rules for the NBA being determined solely by the women of the WNBA. Both athletes, both play the same sport, even have similar background. His face was priceless. The initial surprise, then watching him try to justify in his mind why it was different, and finally the “a-ha” moment when he realized he couldn’t. Eta: a basketball analogy (not mine) also helped him recognize why representation was important. I was so happy, actual tears running down my face happy, reading about and watching black children talking about “Black Panther.” As a cis, white, Christian, fairly well off man he is well represented everywhere so he just didn’t get it, he doesn’t truly understand the toll of not being represented or worse, being negatively stereotyped. Someone told him to imagine he was watching the NBA slam dunk competition. Having a great time, really enjoying these (almost always black) athletes dominate the boards. And then here comes Brent Barry in 1996, throwing it down after taking off from the free throw line and winning the whole thing. That feeling he was feeling right then? Representation. Did he truly enjoy the other players? Of course. But he got why representation matters. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 13:27:25 GMT
"It starts with a man at a water park in Destin, Florida, and I’m 9 years old. He grabs my inner tube as he passes by, reaches under and sticks his fingers high up between my thighs. His thumb strokes against me. I look over at him, shocked. I want to scream, but he smiles back at me. His eyes are everywhere I am. He says, reassuringly, “Looked like you were drifting off, just thought I’d help,” and lets me go. I float like flotsam, jetsam down the Lazy River, and the space between my legs is burning, my heart is pounding, but I say nothing because he was just trying to help.
Second semester, freshman year of high school, I am outside waiting for my mother to pick me up. A boy I’ve never met jumps out from behind the columns, runs up behind me and grabs my ass. I stumble forward, my head whipping around in time to see him sprinting toward the gym. “It was a dare!” he shouts back at me, as if this gives him reason and excuse to have me under his hands, to hook into me as if my flesh were meat hanging raw and waiting.
There is a boy whom I dance with at the military ball in my sophomore year. The following Monday at school he begins stalking me. He follows me to my classes even though I never tell him my schedule, asks people who know me where I live, corners me alone in the courtyard and tries to kiss me. He writes violent stories about me in class after I reject him. In these stories, he slits my throat for my deceit, for leading him on with smiles and kindness. “He’s done that to half of us in this class,” the other girls explain. “The teachers won’t do anything.”
These men are not my rapist ... but each of them takes something from me ― starting with my agency, my dignity, my sense of safety. They plant little seeds of self-doubt that grow ... the silence flows into me. ... Slowly, excruciatingly, I am alienated from myself....
I become pregnant from this rape, but I will not know until it is much too late. I lose weight. It is not uncommon for me to go months without a cycle because I am an athlete, and have an undiagnosed hormonal disorder that I will not know about for 10 more years.
I walk and speak and smile, but a part of me is convinced that I died that night in the kitchen, and my world is no longer real. I am paralyzed the moment reality tries to assert itself. I have the constant, repeated compulsion to climb atop a building, to step off and let the ground rise up to meet me. This is my first thought when the pregnancy test comes back positive. The doctor tells me that the baby is eight months along, and I am climbing to the top of a skyscraper.
She diagnoses my unborn daughter with hydranencephaly, explaining how her cerebrum failed to divide into two separate hemispheres, and instead filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The only reason she continues to experience some degree of development is because the cerebellum and brainstem are ensuring the most rudimentary of functions to sustain her precarious life. If she is born, she will suffer and die so very, very young ― and I step off the ledge....
When they finally bring her over to me, I see she has my red hair, but I cannot bear for my eyes to linger there. I do not want to love her because I already know where this path will one day lead, but I love her anyway. She is blind, deaf, unable to suck, she is already expiring ― just as we all are from the moment of our birth, but she does it so much faster.
I have a front row seat to my daughter’s suffering for an entire year ― the grief moves toward us day by day, merciless and unstoppable. Every other moment until her final one, she lives in pain. I wake to change her diaper in the morning and I find an angry red rash that had not been there five hours ago. I apologize to her, my tears falling on the collar of her onesie as I smear hydrocortisone on her. Even this sort of stimulus to pain sends her into a tonic seizure. Her legs stiffen, her body locks so tight I’m afraid her bones will break. She is diagnosed with diabetes insipidus. She has to have her IV placed in the vein along her skull, because every other vein collapses as soon as it’s touched. Her body is swollen from being unable to regulate its own fluids. She hardly looks like herself. I hold her hand in my open palm, stroking over the distention of her skin. I can’t make out her tiny knuckles....
This is how we treat the women where I live ― here in Alabama where men who have never once been inside of my body, never once been forced to endure my circumstances and never once felt the residue of my violation eating away from within still feel divinely compelled to appropriate my autonomy. I feel such anger and sadness at their limitedness, their inability to perceive reality, and their willingness to leverage our lives and well-being in exchange for a “red meat” vote.
The new Alabama abortion ban has nothing to do with mercy or the preservation and sanctity of life. The politicians in this state who voted for this law do not care about children once they have been expelled from our wombs. They do not care whether a child is wanted, fed, loved and provided for. They do not care about the things they thrust on the shoulders of women and children, and whether or not they are left destitute in the fallout."
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Post by gar on May 18, 2019 13:45:25 GMT
"It starts with a man at a water park in Destin, Florida, and I’m 9 years old. He grabs my inner tube as he passes by, reaches under and sticks his fingers high up between my thighs. His thumb strokes against me. I look over at him, shocked. I want to scream, but he smiles back at me. His eyes are everywhere I am. He says, reassuringly, “Looked like you were drifting off, just thought I’d help,” and lets me go. I float like flotsam, jetsam down the Lazy River, and the space between my legs is burning, my heart is pounding, but I say nothing because he was just trying to help. Second semester, freshman year of high school, I am outside waiting for my mother to pick me up. A boy I’ve never met jumps out from behind the columns, runs up behind me and grabs my ass. I stumble forward, my head whipping around in time to see him sprinting toward the gym. “It was a dare!” he shouts back at me, as if this gives him reason and excuse to have me under his hands, to hook into me as if my flesh were meat hanging raw and waiting. There is a boy whom I dance with at the military ball in my sophomore year. The following Monday at school he begins stalking me. He follows me to my classes even though I never tell him my schedule, asks people who know me where I live, corners me alone in the courtyard and tries to kiss me. He writes violent stories about me in class after I reject him. In these stories, he slits my throat for my deceit, for leading him on with smiles and kindness. “He’s done that to half of us in this class,” the other girls explain. “The teachers won’t do anything.” These men are not my rapist ... but each of them takes something from me ― starting with my agency, my dignity, my sense of safety. They plant little seeds of self-doubt that grow ... the silence flows into me. ... Slowly, excruciatingly, I am alienated from myself.... I become pregnant from this rape, but I will not know until it is much too late. I lose weight. It is not uncommon for me to go months without a cycle because I am an athlete, and have an undiagnosed hormonal disorder that I will not know about for 10 more years. I walk and speak and smile, but a part of me is convinced that I died that night in the kitchen, and my world is no longer real. I am paralyzed the moment reality tries to assert itself. I have the constant, repeated compulsion to climb atop a building, to step off and let the ground rise up to meet me. This is my first thought when the pregnancy test comes back positive. The doctor tells me that the baby is eight months along, and I am climbing to the top of a skyscraper. She diagnoses my unborn daughter with hydranencephaly, explaining how her cerebrum failed to divide into two separate hemispheres, and instead filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The only reason she continues to experience some degree of development is because the cerebellum and brainstem are ensuring the most rudimentary of functions to sustain her precarious life. If she is born, she will suffer and die so very, very young ― and I step off the ledge.... When they finally bring her over to me, I see she has my red hair, but I cannot bear for my eyes to linger there. I do not want to love her because I already know where this path will one day lead, but I love her anyway. She is blind, deaf, unable to suck, she is already expiring ― just as we all are from the moment of our birth, but she does it so much faster. I have a front row seat to my daughter’s suffering for an entire year ― the grief moves toward us day by day, merciless and unstoppable. Every other moment until her final one, she lives in pain. I wake to change her diaper in the morning and I find an angry red rash that had not been there five hours ago. I apologize to her, my tears falling on the collar of her onesie as I smear hydrocortisone on her. Even this sort of stimulus to pain sends her into a tonic seizure. Her legs stiffen, her body locks so tight I’m afraid her bones will break. She is diagnosed with diabetes insipidus. She has to have her IV placed in the vein along her skull, because every other vein collapses as soon as it’s touched. Her body is swollen from being unable to regulate its own fluids. She hardly looks like herself. I hold her hand in my open palm, stroking over the distention of her skin. I can’t make out her tiny knuckles.... This is how we treat the women where I live ― here in Alabama where men who have never once been inside of my body, never once been forced to endure my circumstances and never once felt the residue of my violation eating away from within still feel divinely compelled to appropriate my autonomy. I feel such anger and sadness at their limitedness, their inability to perceive reality, and their willingness to leverage our lives and well-being in exchange for a “red meat” vote. The new Alabama abortion ban has nothing to do with mercy or the preservation and sanctity of life. The politicians in this state who voted for this law do not care about children once they have been expelled from our wombs. They do not care whether a child is wanted, fed, loved and provided for. They do not care about the things they thrust on the shoulders of women and children, and whether or not they are left destitute in the fallout." 😩😢
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 14:21:57 GMT
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Post by lucyg on May 18, 2019 17:52:53 GMT
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Post by inkedup on May 18, 2019 18:36:17 GMT
@zingermack thanks for sharing that. It was so painful to read. My heart hurts for all the women, babies and families who must deal with the politicization of their most difficult moments.
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Post by sassyangel on May 18, 2019 19:43:27 GMT
"It starts with a man at a water park in Destin, Florida, and I’m 9 years old. He grabs my inner tube as he passes by, reaches under and sticks his fingers high up between my thighs. His thumb strokes against me. I look over at him, shocked. I want to scream, but he smiles back at me. His eyes are everywhere I am. He says, reassuringly, “Looked like you were drifting off, just thought I’d help,” and lets me go. I float like flotsam, jetsam down the Lazy River, and the space between my legs is burning, my heart is pounding, but I say nothing because he was just trying to help. Second semester, freshman year of high school, I am outside waiting for my mother to pick me up. A boy I’ve never met jumps out from behind the columns, runs up behind me and grabs my ass. I stumble forward, my head whipping around in time to see him sprinting toward the gym. “It was a dare!” he shouts back at me, as if this gives him reason and excuse to have me under his hands, to hook into me as if my flesh were meat hanging raw and waiting. There is a boy whom I dance with at the military ball in my sophomore year. The following Monday at school he begins stalking me. He follows me to my classes even though I never tell him my schedule, asks people who know me where I live, corners me alone in the courtyard and tries to kiss me. He writes violent stories about me in class after I reject him. In these stories, he slits my throat for my deceit, for leading him on with smiles and kindness. “He’s done that to half of us in this class,” the other girls explain. “The teachers won’t do anything.” These men are not my rapist ... but each of them takes something from me ― starting with my agency, my dignity, my sense of safety. They plant little seeds of self-doubt that grow ... the silence flows into me. ... Slowly, excruciatingly, I am alienated from myself.... I become pregnant from this rape, but I will not know until it is much too late. I lose weight. It is not uncommon for me to go months without a cycle because I am an athlete, and have an undiagnosed hormonal disorder that I will not know about for 10 more years. I walk and speak and smile, but a part of me is convinced that I died that night in the kitchen, and my world is no longer real. I am paralyzed the moment reality tries to assert itself. I have the constant, repeated compulsion to climb atop a building, to step off and let the ground rise up to meet me. This is my first thought when the pregnancy test comes back positive. The doctor tells me that the baby is eight months along, and I am climbing to the top of a skyscraper. She diagnoses my unborn daughter with hydranencephaly, explaining how her cerebrum failed to divide into two separate hemispheres, and instead filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The only reason she continues to experience some degree of development is because the cerebellum and brainstem are ensuring the most rudimentary of functions to sustain her precarious life. If she is born, she will suffer and die so very, very young ― and I step off the ledge.... When they finally bring her over to me, I see she has my red hair, but I cannot bear for my eyes to linger there. I do not want to love her because I already know where this path will one day lead, but I love her anyway. She is blind, deaf, unable to suck, she is already expiring ― just as we all are from the moment of our birth, but she does it so much faster. I have a front row seat to my daughter’s suffering for an entire year ― the grief moves toward us day by day, merciless and unstoppable. Every other moment until her final one, she lives in pain. I wake to change her diaper in the morning and I find an angry red rash that had not been there five hours ago. I apologize to her, my tears falling on the collar of her onesie as I smear hydrocortisone on her. Even this sort of stimulus to pain sends her into a tonic seizure. Her legs stiffen, her body locks so tight I’m afraid her bones will break. She is diagnosed with diabetes insipidus. She has to have her IV placed in the vein along her skull, because every other vein collapses as soon as it’s touched. Her body is swollen from being unable to regulate its own fluids. She hardly looks like herself. I hold her hand in my open palm, stroking over the distention of her skin. I can’t make out her tiny knuckles.... This is how we treat the women where I live ― here in Alabama where men who have never once been inside of my body, never once been forced to endure my circumstances and never once felt the residue of my violation eating away from within still feel divinely compelled to appropriate my autonomy. I feel such anger and sadness at their limitedness, their inability to perceive reality, and their willingness to leverage our lives and well-being in exchange for a “red meat” vote. The new Alabama abortion ban has nothing to do with mercy or the preservation and sanctity of life. The politicians in this state who voted for this law do not care about children once they have been expelled from our wombs. They do not care whether a child is wanted, fed, loved and provided for. They do not care about the things they thrust on the shoulders of women and children, and whether or not they are left destitute in the fallout." Damn, that was super hard to read. As it should be. It is far more complex an issue than many people are understanding. This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 19, 2019 0:55:32 GMT
MAY 17, 2019 Previously Unreleased Poll Shows Alabama Voters Disapprove of Extreme Abortion BanThis could be a repeat of 2012, when extremism on abortion doomed GOP Senate campaigns.** In 2012, Democrats expanded their majority in the Senate largely because two Republican candidates made comments about abortion and rape that were drastically out of step with the public opinion. In Missouri, Senate nominee Todd Akin claimed that rape doesn’t result in pregnancy because “if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” A few months later, the GOP nominee in Indiana, Richard Mourdock, described a pregnancy resulting from rape as a “gift from God.” Akin and Mourdock lost their races in states that Mitt Romney won easily. Their comments not only doomed their own campaigns but became ammunition against every Republican running that year. For Democrats, if anything was a gift from God, it was these two men’s thoughts on abortion. Today, after Republicans in Alabama passed a ban on abortions even in cases of rape or incest, Democrats have reason to hope that 2012 may be repeating itself. ** Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) may have known a thing or two about public opinion in his state when he slammed the abortion ban.Alex Edelman/CNP via ZUMA In 2012, Democrats expanded their majority in the Senate largely because two Republican candidates made comments about abortion and rape that were drastically out of step with the public opinion. In Missouri, Senate nominee Todd Akin claimed that rape doesn’t result in pregnancy because “if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” A few months later, the GOP nominee in Indiana, Richard Mourdock, described a pregnancy resulting from rape as a “gift from God.” Akin and Mourdock lost their races in states that Mitt Romney won easily. Their comments not only doomed their own campaigns but became ammunition against every Republican running that year. For Democrats, if anything was a gift from God, it was these two men’s thoughts on abortion. Today, after Republicans in Alabama passed a ban on abortions even in cases of rape or incest, Democrats have reason to hope that 2012 may be repeating itself. Alabama is a conservative, pro-life state, but most voters there actually don’t support banning abortion in cases of rape and incest. A poll conducted last year but never before released showed that just 31 percent of voters in Alabama support banning abortion in all cases, while 65 percent of voters oppose banning abortion in cases of rape and incest.** After the Alabama law passed, Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) came out in forceful opposition—a striking stance in such a conservative and pro-life state. Jones, who narrowly defeated Republican Roy Moore in a special Senate election in 2017, framed the law as an assault on women and a blight on the state. “The people of Alabama deserve to be on the #rightsideofhistory – not the side of extremists,” he tweeted on Tuesday night. But McCrary, whose firm conducted the poll, believes the Alabama bill will work to Jones’ political advantage ahead of his 2020 reelection race. “I think that this is an opening for Doug Jones,” says McCrary. “Republicans are now making it more difficult for their candidates to be a normal, mainstream Republican.” Instead, Republicans running in a GOP primary to defeat Jones could face pressure to support the bill in order to win the backing of the party’s right wing. That could make them look extreme to the state’s general electorate. Rep. Bradley Byrne, an Alabama Republican hoping to unseat Jones, is one of the few GOP voices in Washington to speak out in favor of the new Alabama law; most others have shied away from it. But it’s not just Jones who may benefit, McCrary argues. Every Republican on the national stage will be asked to weigh in on the various abortion bans that don’t include exceptions for rape and incest. That will allow Democrats to discuss the abortion issue on terms where they have an advantage, as they did against Akin and Mourdock. ** www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/05/previously-unreleased-poll-shows-alabama-voters-disapprove-of-extreme-abortion-ban/Hoping for the best!
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Post by gar on May 19, 2019 9:45:02 GMT
So Trump has made his stance known - is this any different to things he's said before? This report contains an interview with the lady mentioned above, Dina. BBC
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 13:12:58 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 22, 2019 1:11:56 GMT
Alabama state senator introduces bill to repeal state's abortion banBY OWEN DAUGHERTY - 05/21/19 08:07 PM EDT An Alabama state senator introduced a bill Tuesday to repeal the state’s new law banning virtually all abortion procedures, the strictest abortion ban in the country. State Sen. Vivian Figures (D), who protested the bill on the senate floor last week before it was passed, issued a statement Tuesday announcing the new bill. “There are consequences for every decision we make as legislators, and for every vote we cast there are ramifications,” Figures said, according to a local ABC affiliate. “However, some of these effects are unintended and I truly believe this has been the case for SB314. I do not believe my Republican colleagues had any idea what the consequences for passing this bill would be.” She noted that Alabama lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have been bombarded with phone calls from not only constituents but also from people all across the country. She also specifically highlighted recent comments from Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and President Trump, who both said that while they oppose abortion they believe in providing exceptions in cases of rape and incest – provisions not included in the Alabama law. “I felt that the least I could do was to offer a bill to repeal HB314 with the hopes that it would help to heal some of the wounds that my Republican brothers and sisters have inflicted on the great state of Alabama,” Figures said. “Unfortunately this bill is serving as a detriment to the entire state of Alabama in terms of revenues and in terms of healthcare, particularly for women.” Figures's bill aiming to repeal the law comes amid a flurry of backlash from Democratic lawmakers and Hollywood celebrities, many of whom have vowed to boycott the state over the law. ** thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/444927-alabama-state-senator-introduces-bill-to-repeal-states-near-total
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 22, 2019 1:14:20 GMT
The Atlanta City Council has voted unanimously to advance a resolution opposing the state's "heartbeat" abortion bill that passed earlier this month.The legislative body passed the symbolic resolution "expressing the city’s opposition" to the bill banning abortions in the state once a fetal heartbeat is detected in a 13-0 vote on Monday. The resolution now heads to Atlanta Mayor Keisha Bottoms (D) for consideration. The vote comes as a number of district attorneys across the city have vowed not to prosecute women seeking abortions in the state in wake of the new law.City Councilman Amir Farokhi, who introduced the measure, said in a statement that it’s important for the council to "join the chorus Georgians speaking out for a woman’s right to choose” as the state’s largest city." “The values represented in that bill are not those held by the majority of Atlantans,” Farokhi said. “Every woman has the right to choose,” he stated. “It’s not a decision that the government or, frankly, men, have any business interfering with. No woman should live in fear of prison time or the death penalty for making a decision regarding her health. Likewise, doctors should not fear imprisonment for doing their job." ** thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/444923-atlanta-city-council-unanimously-signs-onto-resolution-opposing-states
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Post by PLurker on May 23, 2019 16:00:06 GMT
someone shared this me. It's a facebook post from someone living in Alabama.
Corey Hulgan
May 20 at 5:01 PM ·
If you are going to call women who get abortions “murderers”, then you better not talk down on women who choose to continue their pregnancy.
When you see the pregnant girl walking into the High School, you better not comment on how she’s a teen mom: she chose life.
When you see the mom with a cart full of kids in Walmart, don’t make a comment on how they all have different fathers: she chose life.
When you see the young couple expecting their first, don’t point out how they aren’t married: she chose life.
When you see the mom using her WIC and food stamps in the check out, don’t complain that she’s using “your tax money”: she chose life.
When you see the 16 year old mom at the park with her daughter, don’t ask if they’re sisters then tell her that her life is ruined: she chose life.
When you see the woman working the drive thru at your favorite fast food restaurant to support her son, don’t tell her she should have gone to college. At 18: she chose life.
When you congratulate the working, stable married couple at church expecting a baby, and they say they’re putting him up for adoption, don’t say you’re disappointed: she chose life.
If you’re going to be pro-life, you sure as hell better keep that same energy when they make that choice. Maybe if we treated moms of every race, religion, age, and martial status with respect & kindness, abortions rates would go down. “It takes a village” but society’s village is extremely unwelcoming of non-traditional mothers.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 23, 2019 17:22:24 GMT
someone shared this me. It's a facebook post from someone living in Alabama. Corey Hulgan May 20 at 5:01 PM · If you are going to call women who get abortions “murderers”, then you better not talk down on women who choose to continue their pregnancy. When you see the pregnant girl walking into the High School, you better not comment on how she’s a teen mom: she chose life. When you see the mom with a cart full of kids in Walmart, don’t make a comment on how they all have different fathers: she chose life. When you see the young couple expecting their first, don’t point out how they aren’t married: she chose life. When you see the mom using her WIC and food stamps in the check out, don’t complain that she’s using “your tax money”: she chose life. When you see the 16 year old mom at the park with her daughter, don’t ask if they’re sisters then tell her that her life is ruined: she chose life. When you see the woman working the drive thru at your favorite fast food restaurant to support her son, don’t tell her she should have gone to college. At 18: she chose life. When you congratulate the working, stable married couple at church expecting a baby, and they say they’re putting him up for adoption, don’t say you’re disappointed: she chose life. If you’re going to be pro-life, you sure as hell better keep that same energy when they make that choice. Maybe if we treated moms of every race, religion, age, and martial status with respect & kindness, abortions rates would go down. “It takes a village” but society’s village is extremely unwelcoming of non-traditional mothers. ^^^ That is SPOT-ON!!! And the HuffPo story was truly heart-breaking to read...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 4:39:12 GMT
And can we stop w/the bs "heartbeat" bill naming?!??!?! The embryos have a crown rump length (CRL) of 4 - 6 mm and somite number 30 pairs. Gestational Age GA - end week 6 beginning week 7 (https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Carnegie_stage_13) drjengunter.com/2016/12/11/dear-press-stop-calling-them-heartbeat-bills-and-call-them-fetal-pole-cardiac-activity-bills/"No one passing these laws gives a shit about the medicine or the science or the statistics. Really, they don’t. If they did these laws wouldn’t exist and there would be laws providing free long-acting reversible contraception because that’s actually what works. I really believe the assholes in Ohio who voted for the fetal pole cardiac activity bill truly believe that the more than 21,000 women in Ohio who get abortions each year are just doing so because the greedy doctors who run the abortion spa at the mall have frequent BOGOs on pleasure abortions and if these little women just had a firmer hand from the patriarchy they would see the error of their ways.... While the press doesn’t write bills or pass laws they do pass on information or in this case subtle misinformation. Using “heartbeat” anywhere in a piece, but especially in the headline, even in quotations is not appropriate. It’s no different from allowing a neo Nazi to self identify as alt-right. The earliest cardiac activity is seen in a fetal pole and using any other term means that you are lock step with a campaign of misinformation and it’s wrong."
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Post by katlaw on May 29, 2019 4:58:38 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. I am Canadian. I hear you. I support you. I share your outrage. This is wrong and all women of the world need to rise up and demand better.
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Post by JBeans on May 29, 2019 5:42:56 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. I am Canadian. I hear you. I support you. I share your outrage. This is wrong and all women of the world need to rise up and demand better. Another Canadian that stands in solidarity to protect women’s reproductive rights. This turn of events in the US is a travesty.
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Post by gar on May 29, 2019 7:40:26 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. I am Canadian. I hear you. I support you. I share your outrage. This is wrong and all women of the world need to rise up and demand better. We do, signed a Brit who is horrified on behalf of American women.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 8:27:21 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 13:09:04 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus! The fetus is innocent and clean (not having passed through the disgusting lady part known as the vagina).
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Post by Merge on May 29, 2019 13:40:29 GMT
This morning I had some canadian girl on my facebook, say she was sick of all the abortion posts. 😞😕 It must be nice to live in a country where you have the luxury to feel like this. Please don’t ever take it for granted, those of you that do. We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus! For the crusaders at the top, it's always been about control. Yes, they stir up the soft hearts of people who think they're all about saving the babies, and many anti-choice voters are deluded into thinking that's what they're voting for, but it's really about control of women's bodies and lives. That's why there's such a disconnect between the rhetoric around the American unborn and the rhetoric around immigrants, convicts, and other people deemed less worthy of the basic right to life.
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Post by gar on May 29, 2019 14:07:39 GMT
We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus! The fetus is innocent and clean (not having passed through the disgusting lady part known as the vagina). A tad more hypocrisy there I see!
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Post by gar on May 29, 2019 14:13:02 GMT
We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus! For the crusaders at the top, it's always been about control. Yes, they stir up the soft hearts of people who think they're all about saving the babies, and many anti-choice voters are deluded into thinking that's what they're voting for, but it's really about control of women's bodies and lives. That's why there's such a disconnect between the rhetoric around the American unborn and the rhetoric around immigrants, convicts, and other people deemed less worthy of the basic right to life. That's exactly it in a nutshell isn't it
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Post by sassyangel on May 29, 2019 18:47:13 GMT
gar katlaw JBeans @dottyscrapper Thank you, ladies. I should be clear - I realize most of you here do, and you don’t take it for granted. I took her comment with a grain of salt, because she’s the kind of person for whom nothing matters, unless it’s 100% about her. So, it’s par for the course. But it irked me a great deal, at the time. Cause this is literally a matter of life and death.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 23:01:56 GMT
We support you all the way. What a large part of the world find hard to understand is, that a modern, forward thinking in many ways, country, are passing such archaic laws. It's the 21st century not the 19th. It's also hypocrisy of the highest order to use the " preserve life" argument for a non viable fetus when some states, including Alabama, still have the death penalty. So they are OK with a state sanctioned murder of a fully grown human being but pass laws to protect a non viable fetus! The fetus is innocent and clean (not having passed through the disgusting lady part known as the vagina). The topic is not funny really, but I did chuckle at your post. it's obviously not disgusting enough for some it seems,otherwise the fetus wouldn't have been created in the first place!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 1:48:25 GMT
The fetus is innocent and clean (not having passed through the disgusting lady part known as the vagina). The topic is not funny really, but I did chuckle at your post. it's obviously not disgusting enough for some it seems,otherwise the fetus wouldn't have been created in the first place! That was just the semen. The embryo/fetus hasn't touched it yet. So it's pure. Until it's born. Then F(#$* it!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 16:03:12 GMT
Missouri Parenthood has filed for a restraining order, but will be closed tomorrow even if they get the order. Opinion Piece. (CNN)There is only one clinic left to provide abortions in the state of Missouri -- and soon there may be none at all. On Friday May 31, the Planned Parenthood Clinic located in St. Louis is expected to stop providing abortions because a state health department has refused to renew the license it needs to continue offering abortion services.** CNN has reached out repeatedly to the governor's office and the state health department for comment but has not received a response. The governor, Mike Parson, held a press conference on Wednesday where he said inspectors found "numerous violations of state laws and regulations" at the clinic and that the state will not renew Planned Parenthood's license unless the clinic "complies with the law. ... No one is receiving special treatment." He also cautioned that a judge ruling in favor of Planned Parenthood would be "reckless." ** Yet, whether or not the restraining order is granted, a new strategy of state level anti-abortion advocates is now revealing itself. The novel tactic of utilizing a state health department to refuse to renew an operating license to an abortion clinic (usually a routine procedure) can prompt an immediate halt to abortions while legal challenges to restrictive new laws languish and linger in the court system. The strategy is clever because it pits local and state officials against a federal directive. State-level health officials are far more likely to be influenced by state politics and pressure. In the case of Missouri, the administration of Gov. Mike Parson has already made its staunch anti-abortion stance well known. In the same week that the clinic's license is due to expire, Parsons signed into law a bill that would ban all abortions after eight weeks. That law, which is already facing legal challenges, seems to be his administration's overt move against the provision of legal abortions in the state. The more covert move is to use an opaque licensing procedure to stop abortions immediately, instead of in August when the new law would have taken effect. Even better, this covert strategy has the added benefit of potentially being shrugged off as red tape.** Because most state level health department licensing procedures are little known and not often challenged, it's conveniently difficult to discern whether license denials are innocuous (owing to red tape) or intentional (owing to opposition to abortion rights). All of it is, in simple terms, like a perfect crime, with a ready alibi, few clues and no way of proving intent. ** www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/opinions/missouri-last-abortion-clinic-threatened-zakaria/index.html
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 30, 2019 16:18:17 GMT
Yet, whether or not the restraining order is granted, a new strategy of state level anti-abortion advocates is now revealing itself. The novel tactic of utilizing a state health department to refuse to renew an operating license to an abortion clinic (usually a routine procedure) can prompt an immediate halt to abortions while legal challenges to restrictive new laws languish and linger in the court system. The strategy is clever because it pits local and state officials against a federal directive. State-level health officials are far more likely to be influenced by state politics and pressure. In the case of Missouri, the administration of Gov. Mike Parson has already made its staunch anti-abortion stance well known. In the same week that the clinic's license is due to expire, Parsons signed into law a bill that would ban all abortions after eight weeks. That law, which is already facing legal challenges, seems to be his administration's overt move against the provision of legal abortions in the state. The more covert move is to use an opaque licensing procedure to stop abortions immediately, instead of in August when the new law would have taken effect. Even better, this covert strategy has the added benefit of potentially being shrugged off as red tape.** Because most state level health department licensing procedures are little known and not often challenged, it's conveniently difficult to discern whether license denials are innocuous (owing to red tape) or intentional (owing to opposition to abortion rights).
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 31, 2019 3:30:46 GMT
Vice President Pence on Thursday suggested that the Democratic Party supported late-term abortion and "infanticide" while speaking alongside Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in Ottawa. Pence said, among other things, that he was bothered by the Democrats "in our country, and leaders around the country, supporting late-term abortion, even infanticide." "But those are debates within the U.S., and I know that Canada will deal with those issues in a manner the people of Canada determine most appropriate," he continued. "For President Trump, for me, for our administration, we'll always stand for the right to life." ** CNN noted that late-term abortions — procedures that typically take place 21 weeks into a pregnancy — account for less than 1.3 percent of abortions in America. ** "It was a cordial conversation, but it is one on which we have very different perspectives," Trudeau said. Trudeau has repeatedly spoken out against restrictive abortion policies. After Alabama's governor signed a law that bans nearly all abortions, the prime minister said he was "deeply disappointed." "It's a shame that we increasingly see conservative governments and conservative politicians taking away rights that have been hard-fought over many, many years by generations of women and male allies," Trudeau said. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/446274-pence-says-democrats-support-infanticide-during-visit-to-canadaSpout your propaganda all over, thanks!
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