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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 4, 2019 0:28:13 GMT
I think it was someone being interviewed on CNN or MSNBC said they were glad they hadn't heard those words yet! Well, we can all rest easy now. Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, and John Cornyn have all sent out their thoughts and prayers. Now let's just move on to the next one, shall we? Exactly. Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers! Lather, rinse, repeat. That seems to be the extent of addressing this problem. I can’t listen to it any more.
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Post by elaine on Aug 4, 2019 0:37:26 GMT
Heaven forbid there would be any acknowledgement and censure of the Commander Racist Tweeter in Chief in the White House.
I’m all for banning assault style weapons and high capacity magazines, just like Hillary was/is.
And Trump is a f’ing Nazi.
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 4, 2019 0:58:28 GMT
There was a reported manifesto. Reason was to express outrage at Hispanic invasion of the US. Perhaps someone on a laptop can share it here. I am limited to a phone at this minute. Someone please explain how people can be more afraid to travel outside of the US, than they are to just live day to day here. Here's the 4-page manifesto: The Inconvenient TruthIt's still being investigated if Patrick Crusius, the shooter, is the one who wrote and posted it on 8Chan. ETA: (From Slate) Crusius’ social media accounts were all taken down relatively quickly but not before some were able to detect that he liked a lot of alt-right content. He liked tweets that had the “BuildtheWall” hashtag as well as “a photo using guns to spell out ‘Trump,’ and posts from Paul Joseph Watson, a far-right Youtuber who works with Alex Jones at InfoWars,” notes the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 4, 2019 1:02:48 GMT
He spewed hate against Mexicans, just like Trump. There is no way Trump will call this terrorism. I'm angry. Angry that our politicians have failed us. Angry that people don't understand Trump only fuels the fire for these racist monsters. Angry that people can't live in peace. I'm angry that people were murdered because of their ethnicity. I'm sick and tired of the violence in this country. And I'm broken-hearted for the families who won't see their loved ones again.
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Post by quinlove on Aug 4, 2019 1:05:13 GMT
Why will they not ban assault weapons ?? WHY !!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 4, 2019 2:00:49 GMT
FBI is investigating El Paso as Domestic TERRORISIM!!
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Post by Merge on Aug 4, 2019 2:30:11 GMT
Reports are coming in that there are likely folks who were injured today who are avoiding medical care because of their immigration status.
#maga
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 4, 2019 2:36:21 GMT
Why will they not ban assault weapons ?? WHY !! It probably won’t be long until our gun loving peas show up to tell us that there is no such thing as an “assault weapons”. I say that they are ALL assault weapons. That is their sole purpose. To assault people or animals.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 4, 2019 3:05:52 GMT
Thoughts and prayers mean nothing. Nothing.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 4, 2019 3:10:50 GMT
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Post by amom23 on Aug 4, 2019 3:21:20 GMT
Reports are coming in that there are likely folks who were injured today who are avoiding medical care because of their immigration status. #maga
It's incredibly sad if true.
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Post by elaine on Aug 4, 2019 3:25:56 GMT
nogfz, why did you create an id a few hours ago, post only on this thread, and then quickly delete? Who are you really? LOL! The Trump supporting peas, in all their various id’s, are trolling tonight.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Aug 4, 2019 3:34:44 GMT
I’m trying to wrap my head around why it is happening so much more often now? Seems like the Gilroy one was hate- filled also against anyone that wasn’t white. I am white but that makes me sick. Also, seems like nowadays there is a bigger divide between the haves and have Nots. I don’t think that is what is related to today but just pointing that out. My daughter is at Disneyland today and I worry about that sort of thing although they do have metal detectors. Seems like you can’t go anywhere anymore without fearing for your life but that’s what the bad guys want. They want you to stay home in fear but obviously that can’t happen.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 4, 2019 3:36:24 GMT
Also some are afraid to look for the missing. They are putting out messages of who to contact about their families... 3 Mexican nationals died, 6 are wounded, in hospitals.
ETA: There are other people still looking for family members.... Unfortunately they may be deceased and not recovered yet.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2019 3:43:51 GMT
What will it take to get change? A mass shooting at the Republican Convention? A mass shooting at the NRA Convention? They make you check your guns before coming in (at least at the Republican Convention, but maybe an NRA event). I know places that sell guns make you check your guns before you go in.
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Post by nogfz on Aug 4, 2019 3:47:39 GMT
nogfz , why did you create an id a few hours ago, post only on this thread, and then quickly delete? Who are you really? LOL! The Trump supporting peas, in all their various id’s, are trolling tonight. It became immediately clear that this is a forum of idiots. I chose to not waste my time. **I will say one last thing: As long as you *general libs* continue to place blame on an otherwise inanimate object, it will never get any better because all you do is spew hate. All day and all night. Just read back on this thread or any other social media. There is nothing but hate. 24/7 hate.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 4, 2019 3:52:11 GMT
What will it take to get change? A mass shooting at the Republican Convention? A mass shooting at the NRA Convention? They make you check your guns before coming in (at least at the Republican Convention, but maybe an NRA event). I know places that sell guns make you check your guns before you go in. Someone should highlight this in an ad next time they start the comments about needing more guns to be safe, blah blah blah.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2019 3:54:17 GMT
I’m trying to wrap my head around why it is happening so much more often now? President Asshole is fueling their fear and their hate. As much as our economy feels okay right now, people can't afford to live on their own (not with parents or roommates). Our schools focus so much on "academics" they forget that these are people. They are children who need to be exposed to playing with each other, to working together, to people and ideas that are different than theirs. We need to teach and have them see the atrocities of the past (although it seems it is often current events). We need to show them people working together. We need to make them realize that we are all humans. I think the instant access to hate, to ideas, to probably people agreeing with the hate and egging a person on is fueling. It used to be you had to know someone or go somewhere to be surrounded by others that hate. Now it is just a click away. I don't think it is easier access to guns. I think that has been there before. It may be that the guns are better models at shooting faster. .
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2019 3:54:48 GMT
I do believe that fully automatic weapons should be banned. I do think things like bump stocks and anything else that can make a gun fire like an automatic should be banned. I think high capacity clips should be very well regulated in that there must be a specific reason, you must pass a background check, and maybe even some sort of psych test to be able to legally own more than a 10 clip
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Post by elaine on Aug 4, 2019 4:10:09 GMT
nogfz , why did you create an id a few hours ago, post only on this thread, and then quickly delete? Who are you really? LOL! The Trump supporting peas, in all their various id’s, are trolling tonight. It became immediately clear that this is a forum of idiots. I chose to not waste my time. **I will say one last thing: As long as you *general libs* continue to place blame on an otherwise inanimate object, it will never get any better because all you do is spew hate. All day and all night. Just read back on this thread or any other social media. There is nothing but hate. 24/7 hate. Yeah, right. Whatever. You spent the effort to join and also to read enough to determine we are “idiots.” Yeah, and I have oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you. You keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be able to sleep at night while supporting the Idiot in the White House who spews more hate than a whole board of liberal scrapbooking women ever could. When you are ready to participate under your recognizable pea-name, come join us.
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Post by nogfz on Aug 4, 2019 4:15:11 GMT
I do believe that fully automatic weapons should be banned. I do think things like bump stocks and anything else that can make a gun fire like an automatic should be banned. I think high capacity clips should be very well regulated in that there must be a specific reason, you must pass a background check, and maybe even some sort of psych test to be able to legally own more than a 10 clip I truly support the spirit behind all of those restrictions. They make sense on the surface. Now tell me, how do you make criminals and mentally impaired persons abide by them? Again. Focusing on the object is being blind to the true problem.
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Post by nogfz on Aug 4, 2019 4:17:32 GMT
It became immediately clear that this is a forum of idiots. I chose to not waste my time. **I will say one last thing: As long as you *general libs* continue to place blame on an otherwise inanimate object, it will never get any better because all you do is spew hate. All day and all night. Just read back on this thread or any other social media. There is nothing but hate. 24/7 hate. Yeah, right. Whatever. You spent the effort to join and also to read enough to determine we are “idiots.” Yeah, and I have oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you. You keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be able to sleep at night while supporting the Idiot in the White House who spews more hate than a whole board of liberal scrapbooking women ever could. When you are ready to participate under your recognizable pea-name, come join us. You are not worth my time. Go bully someone who gives a damn.
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Post by elaine on Aug 4, 2019 4:19:43 GMT
I do believe that fully automatic weapons should be banned. I do think things like bump stocks and anything else that can make a gun fire like an automatic should be banned. I think high capacity clips should be very well regulated in that there must be a specific reason, you must pass a background check, and maybe even some sort of psych test to be able to legally own more than a 10 clip I truly support the spirit behind all of those restrictions. They make sense on the surface. Now tell me, how do you make criminals and mentally impaired persons abide by them? Again. Focusing on the object is being blind to the true problem. Right, because criminals and some mentally ill people will not abide by laws that make murder illegal, we should wipe all those laws off the books. Because some people will murder, we should make it legal for everyone to murder anyone by that very flawed logic. Stupidest reason for not enacting restrictions on access to assault style weapons and high capacity magazines, ever.
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Post by elaine on Aug 4, 2019 4:20:22 GMT
Yeah, right. Whatever. You spent the effort to join and also to read enough to determine we are “idiots.” Yeah, and I have oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you. You keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be able to sleep at night while supporting the Idiot in the White House who spews more hate than a whole board of liberal scrapbooking women ever could. When you are ready to participate under your recognizable pea-name, come join us. You are not worth my time. Go bully someone who gives a damn. Bwahahahahaha! Snowflake.
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Post by camcas on Aug 4, 2019 4:20:49 GMT
Let's see ... a Muslim? A refugee? An immigrant? Nope, nope, nope. A self radicalized white male domestic terrorist with racist and/or misogynistic beliefs? Check, check, check. Exactly .....and from the outside {Australia} looking in ...why does a civilian EVER need an assault rifle?
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Post by camcas on Aug 4, 2019 4:22:26 GMT
What will it take to get change? A mass shooting at the Republican Convention? A mass shooting at the NRA Convention? They make you check your guns before coming in (at least at the Republican Convention, but maybe an NRA event). I know places that sell guns make you check your guns before you go in. Why do you need to take a gun to a convention?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2019 4:30:32 GMT
I do believe that fully automatic weapons should be banned. I do think things like bump stocks and anything else that can make a gun fire like an automatic should be banned. I think high capacity clips should be very well regulated in that there must be a specific reason, you must pass a background check, and maybe even some sort of psych test to be able to legally own more than a 10 clip I truly support the spirit behind all of those restrictions. They make sense on the surface. Now tell me, how do you make criminals and mentally impaired persons abide by them? Again. Focusing on the object is being blind to the true problem. You don't. But until this asshole walked into the Walmart today, he wasn't a criminal. You aren't seeing criminals being the ones to commit most of these mass shootings. These are typically young white males who are middle to upper class. Since I am blind to the true problem, what do you think it is? (and before you dismiss me as a bleeding-heart liberal, my family owns multiple guns, so I am not one of the "ban all the guns people")
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Post by LeaP on Aug 4, 2019 4:31:06 GMT
250 mass shootings so far this year. What is the common denominator? Guns. Lots and lots of guns. Yes there are other factors, but when is enough enough?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2019 4:32:04 GMT
They make you check your guns before coming in (at least at the Republican Convention, but maybe an NRA event). I know places that sell guns make you check your guns before you go in. Why do you need to take a gun to a convention? You don't. But the people who love open and conceal carry and own guns are often republican and supporters of the NRA. They think you should be able to carry in Walmart, but please check your weapon before you come in to their space.
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Post by camcas on Aug 4, 2019 4:38:32 GMT
Unbelievable....😢
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