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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 8, 2019 23:47:24 GMT
This really makes me angry. For years they have neglected keeping their lines and equipment repaired. So now the answer is to turn off power to upwards of perhaps 600,000 households. We are among the possible ones being shut-down. We have underground utilities so I'm not getting why we have to go dark.
I get the fire danger but some areas they are targeting aren't in a fire-prone area.
Thanks for letting me vent.
If you are in a potential area, do you have a generator? We do not.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 8, 2019 23:53:03 GMT
I don't understand this. I get that there is a fire danger, but why haven't they come up with something? Don't they also shut your power off during summer because people use too much?
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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 8, 2019 23:56:56 GMT
I don't understand this. I get that there is a fire danger, but why haven't they come up with something? Don't they also shut your power off during summer because people use too much? During the summer there have been rolling brownouts/blackouts in some areas. I don't think we've experienced one for the past few years.
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Post by monicad on Oct 9, 2019 0:05:56 GMT
I agree. I’m tired of PG&E putting the blame on everyone else for their inability to maintain equipment and we pay the price (literally). That being said, if it prevents another Coffey Park or Paradise catastrophe, it’s worth it.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Oct 9, 2019 0:10:39 GMT
Both my home and the school at which I teach are in the possible outage area. School is still planned to be open tomorrow. How I am going to teach a digital multimedia class and two Google skills classes without power is my question for the night.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Oct 9, 2019 0:12:59 GMT
We no longer live in CA, but my Dad said his is expected to be out for at least 2 days. He lives in the foothills, so he does have a generator. At least he can make coffee and keep the fridge cold. Not cheap to run though with gas costing so much there.
His local ice cream shop just posted on FB they were having a huge sale because they have to get rid of all the ice cream. Said their generators cannot keep it all frozen. But then the casino posted they will be totally open, even their gas station.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 0:23:26 GMT
This really makes me angry. For years they have neglected keeping their lines and equipment repaired. So now the answer is to turn off power to upwards of perhaps 600,000 households. We are among the possible ones being shut-down. We have underground utilities so I'm not getting why we have to go dark. I get the fire danger but some areas they are targeting aren't in a fire-prone area. Thanks for letting me vent. If you are in a potential area, do you have a generator? We do not. The zones are based off of what power grid and line you are on. NOT if you are in a fire zone. A few streets over is part of SCEs power shut off grid (1 of 4 in my area) for fire safety precautions. While they are not a fire zone, their access grid/line is in the foothills behind us and is a fire zone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 0:25:19 GMT
We no longer live in CA, but my Dad said his is expected to be out for at least 2 days. He lives in the foothills, so he does have a generator. At least he can make coffee and keep the fridge cold. Not cheap to run though with gas costing so much there. His local ice cream shop just posted on FB they were having a huge sale because they have to get rid of all the ice cream. Said their generators cannot keep it all frozen. But then the casino posted they will be totally open, even their gas station. Because they have federal land. They aren't on the same public grid system. So they can be open and have power.
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 9, 2019 0:26:54 GMT
This is my 4th PSPS since June. I'm pretty prepared, at least as far as I can be without owning a generator. Most folks around me own them now. Originally my area was told to plan for approximately a 5 day outage. Now they are saying it could stretch to 7. I am OVER this.
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 9, 2019 1:56:16 GMT
If it goes off tonight, they’re saying restoration by Monday.
It’s total bullshit.
They don’t maintain their lines. Their higher ups get HUGE bonuses. They file bankruptcy. They can cut power in the summer if demand gets too high because people have smart meters and have opted in to allow it.
I hate them.
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 9, 2019 2:06:41 GMT
Our power is supposed to go out tonight and they just said they will completely be closing the caledecott tunnel - it’s going to be crazy. We don’t have a generator - just water, candles, batteries etc....
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Post by SweetieBugs on Oct 9, 2019 2:22:31 GMT
This really makes me angry. For years they have neglected keeping their lines and equipment repaired. So now the answer is to turn off power to upwards of perhaps 600,000 households. We are among the possible ones being shut-down. We have underground utilities so I'm not getting why we have to go dark. I get the fire danger but some areas they are targeting aren't in a fire-prone area. Thanks for letting me vent. If you are in a potential area, do you have a generator? We do not. Joy, I'm about 5 miles up the road from you --Lake Forrest area--and we've received confirmation that our area WILL have a shutdown starting tonight and that it will be a minimum of 3 to 5 days but be prepared for a potential 7 days if there are complications with restarting the power (because they are shutting the power down to such a huge area-Redding down to the Bay Area, they predict that re-establishing the "grid" will be a lengthy process). I've never had to go without power for so long!!!
We borrowed my IL's generator but it is small and will only run the fridge, if that. It's only designed for small appliances so we'll see. We tried it out today and it worked but the generator will only run a few hours at a time before running out of gas so it's not a great solution. We also got a call from the water/sewer district warning of the need to not run any unnecessary water as we may lose water pressure and that will affect drinking water and sewer operations. This will be an interesting and possibly very uncomfortable week. I wish you and other peas in the shut down area good luck.
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Post by kristi on Oct 9, 2019 2:28:20 GMT
My city is on the list but PG&E handles our gas not electric so we shouldn’t be impacted.
I was at dinner tonight and people all around were quite angry discussing the outage.
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Post by mom2kbs on Oct 9, 2019 2:34:02 GMT
I am angry for you all! How is it even ok? What do you do about all the food loss etc. ? How do you make up school, do you go to work? Are they always this long?
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 9, 2019 2:44:04 GMT
I am angry for you all! How is it even ok? What do you do about all the food loss etc. ? How do you make up school, do you go to work? Are they always this long? It's 100% not ok. But if you speak out against it you're immediately handslapped by someone and told to just be thankful your house didn't burn down last year.
This is definitely shaping up to be the longest one we've had so far. In the past they have been over within 24 hours. I have not yet lost any food (just keep the doors shut on the fridge/freezer). Schools have only been out once, I am not sure of their make up procedures since I don't have kids. And yes, we still have to go to work. The cities so far have not lost power. Just us lucky rural folk so I shower and get dressed in the dark and head in as usual. It works out well since I can take all my devices with me to charge at work.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 9, 2019 2:54:22 GMT
The peak wind in our area is supposed to be 10 -13 MPH. That is nothing! Right now it is so still outside. We got a call that either our power has been shut down or will be shut down soon.
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Post by basketdiva on Oct 9, 2019 2:58:36 GMT
Looks like Southern Cal Edison is doing the same thing this week.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 9, 2019 3:06:24 GMT
I just find this whole concept mind-boggling. We don’t live in a third world country. It’s crazy to me that the way to handle this is to cut off people's power for days at a time. I can’t help but think about people with health issues and the elderly. And people who can’t afford to buy a generator or the gas to keep it running.
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Post by finaledition on Oct 9, 2019 3:13:02 GMT
I just saw that parts of Albany could expect a power outage for up to six days. I don’t live in or near Albany, but how is this ok? I can’t get to any PGE website-nothing will connect, so not sure if we will be impacted. Schools are saying that they won’t be affected, but NextDoor chatter is most neighborhoods near me will. Charging the chargers tonight!
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Post by finaledition on Oct 9, 2019 3:13:59 GMT
The peak wind in our area is supposed to be 10 -13 MPH. That is nothing! Right now it is so still outside. We got a call that either our power has been shut down or will be shut down soon. I know, you’d think we were getting unprecedented hurricane force winds the way they are responding to the forecast.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 9, 2019 3:18:30 GMT
I know I am going down to the boat in Brisbane by the airport and double check the deck lines.. dh is out of country and though the predictions are not too bad.. the unusual direction could affect things being SF, we won't lose power..
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 9, 2019 3:21:49 GMT
I also find this whole thing surreal. They are shutting down universities, closing the tunnels, traffic lights won't work. I keep thinking they won't actually do it tomorrow....
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Post by fredfreddy44 on Oct 9, 2019 3:37:26 GMT
We live in south SJ and my or may not loose power. Depends on which map I look at. Did some prep including buying ice and powering everything up. Did laundry, dishes, and got gas.
We have a gas stove and lots of food and water so we'll be fine. I hope it is only a few days as our son has his first Eagle workday Saturday and it will be hard to do w/o electricity or an open Lowe's to shop at.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 9, 2019 3:45:23 GMT
If it goes off tonight, they’re saying restoration by Monday. It’s total bullshit. They don’t maintain their lines. Their higher ups get HUGE bonuses. They file bankruptcy. They can cut power in the summer if demand gets too high because people have smart meters and have opted in to allow it. I hate them. what are smart meters
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 9, 2019 4:17:03 GMT
I also find this whole thing surreal. They are shutting down universities, closing the tunnels, traffic lights won't work. I keep thinking they won't actually do it tomorrow.... They will. They were supposed to do it 11/8/18 and they backed off due to public outcry and then the Camp Fire broke out that morning.
I agree with you about it being surreal. Each time we go through this it reminds me of the Purge and I wish I had big security doors to come rolling down over my house.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Oct 9, 2019 4:41:38 GMT
The peak wind in our area is supposed to be 10 -13 MPH. That is nothing! Right now it is so still outside. We got a call that either our power has been shut down or will be shut down soon. It was dead calm at my house for both the Santa Rosa/Napa and Paradise fires. Dead calm for days before and days after. The grid has to do with where the power flows, not necessarily where the fires might be. I'm not saying that right but I'm too tired to make sense. If my flow pattern takes power to somewhere where the lines could spark, then my pattern gets shut down. I'm curious to see what tomorrow will bring. My district is holding classes tomorrow, but if the power does go out, I don't think they will hold them Thursday. The problem is that only half of the district is potentially impacted and the other half will raise holy hell if we get out and they don't. From a PR standpoint though, my district can't afford any more bad student-at-risk press. We had a middle school without running water for a few days last week and they didn't close school until the health department made them because of the state of the bathrooms.
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 9, 2019 4:45:03 GMT
I just find this whole concept mind-boggling. We don’t live in a third world country. It’s crazy to me that the way to handle this is to cut off people's power for days at a time. I can’t help but think about people with health issues and the elderly. And people who can’t afford to buy a generator or the gas to keep it running. AND gas to run the generators is now over $4/gallon. Oh, and prolonged outages mean you will HAVE to get more gas. But the gas stations will most likely be closed. supreme fuckery happening in CA right now.
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 9, 2019 4:48:39 GMT
If it goes off tonight, they’re saying restoration by Monday. It’s total bullshit. They don’t maintain their lines. Their higher ups get HUGE bonuses. They file bankruptcy. They can cut power in the summer if demand gets too high because people have smart meters and have opted in to allow it. I hate them. what are smart meters They’re a way for the power company to read your meter and turn your power on and off remotely. We did NOT opt to put one in. Then we were forced to. The first one didn’t work right and we had a HUGE bill. We contested it and they replaced it. Now we have solar and it runs backwards. BUT when there is no power, our panels don’t produce. Something about the inverter needing power in order to produce and that can’t come from the panel itself. We could put in a battery wall to the tune of $9k and be independent from PG&E but during extended periods of cloudy skies and rain, we would have no power. Soooo..... we bow to the almighty gods of ineptitudeness.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 9, 2019 5:08:10 GMT
caldacott tunnels are remaining open.. due to generators.. schools are closing all over..
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Post by katlady on Oct 9, 2019 5:13:10 GMT
So, is the city of SF affected too? What about the airport? This is crazy!
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